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shit, you're right. i'm confusing it with The Natural & Miller's Crossing.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

field of dreams = disturbing study of masculine sentimentality

(and constner is an inert gblob)

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

THAT MOVIES SO OVERRATED

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw Chicago! I can't recall much about it though.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

replace 'american beauty' with 'road to perdition', which i still maintain is the most boring film ever made.

― deep space nine (deep space nine), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I only like the bit where the bag is blowing around in the wind in American Beauty. Damn, that's so emo of me.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

"parodistic"?

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

This list makes no sense.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

road to perdition, yes, possibly most boring ever made.
I LOATHE american beauty. that film made me so angry! so bad on so many levels. saw it with friends at a packed theater @ union station and was yelling at the screen it made me so irrationally angry

that and "bottle rocket" UGH

― daria g (dar1a g), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha the critique of Jules and Jim is so biting! "The end's basically not as great as the great beginning." Yeah you really stuck it to that flick.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

whoa dar1a. u h8 bottle rocket?

― 69 (pete), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Road to Perdition at least has Paul Newman being Paul Newman, more than can be said for American Beauty.

I really, truly hated Jules and Jim, but the exact reasons are fuzzy. But I've hated every Truffaut I've seen - sooner or later will have to borrow The 400 Blows just to make sure I can write him off completely.

― milo (milo), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

actually, given the quality of movies made from graphic novels since its release, Road to Perdition doesn't look quite so bad. I'd rather watch it again than Sin City or V for Vendetta.

― milo (milo), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

#1 underrated movie of all time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVH5JxdM-i0

― milo (milo), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno, see, I thought I hated it but I saw it a long time ago. is it a total pisstake or not?

I don't think I like truffaut either

― daria g (dar1a g), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

road to perdition is so much worse than any other film based on a graphic novel. paul newman sleepwalks through it. i guess daniel craig is pretty good. whatever, it's horrible.

actually it's still better than that deadening manga-esque film 'renaissance' (which also features daniel craig providing the voice for the lead character...hmm..)

― deep space nine (deep space nine), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

The Field of Dreams thing is the one most perplexing to me, I mean "the sweetness of Ray Liotta"?

― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 1 December 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Agree:
American Beauty
Chicago
Forrest Gump
Easy Rider
Nashville
Gone With The Wind

Where's Saving Private Ryan and Platoon?

Disagree:
Clerks
Fantasia
The Wizard of Oz (calling this crap is daft btw)
2001: A Space Oddyssey
Moonstruck
Mystic River

― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, there should be a 10 year no-fly-zone for a list like this.

― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

no Usual Suspects, no credibility

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

of course, it's much easier to make lists of movies beloved by certain people, which we can then mock.

flicks like Fight Club, or Garden State, or...dare i say it...Napolean Dynamite.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I vaguely remember really enjoying Clerks when it came out, I watched it recently (sort of, was playing on internets while roommate watched for first time) and holy crap, the only vaguely funny thing was "Berserker". Vaguely.

― drunk Friendster massage (nklshs), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

"gone with the wind and the wizard of oz are horrible, but i think easy rider, clerks, field of dreams, good will hunting and moonstruck are all good movies, and chariots of fire, while not quite great, is elevated above merely good by the performances"

this is brain-dead! and then he calls himself a "critically-inclined person"

― bliss (blass), Saturday, 2 December 2006 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think that many Field of Dreams fans consider it a cinematic masterwork - more like "oooh, baseball" and "aww, why wasn't I nicer to my dad before he died of stomach cancer?"

― milo (milo), Saturday, 2 December 2006 05:19 (seventeen years ago) link

this is brain-dead! and then he calls himself a "critically-inclined person"

try harder next time!

― nuneb (nuneb), Saturday, 2 December 2006 05:20 (seventeen years ago) link

sorry, this thread is unworthy of me (Premiere wd never piss off Kill Bill fans, huh)

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 2 December 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Your obsession with Kill Bill is bizarre - the movie's two or three years old, time to move on. (Besides, Pulp Fiction is THE overrated Tarantino.)

― milo (milo), Saturday, 2 December 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

The Red Shoes is the most glaringly wrong piece of wrongness on this wrong list.

― My Mind is Opener than Yours (Modal Fugue), Saturday, 2 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

(Even thought it's all "empty" and all.)

― My Mind is Opener than Yours (Modal Fugue), Saturday, 2 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

otm

― bliss (blass), Saturday, 2 December 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

" actually, given the quality of movies made from graphic novels since its release, Road to Perdition doesn't look quite so bad. I'd rather watch it again than Sin City or V for Vendetta.

-- milo (wooderso...) (webmail), December 1st, 2006 6:23 PM. (milo)"

fuck you

" #1 underrated movie of all time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVH5JxdM-i0

-- milo (wooderso...) (webmail), December 1st, 2006 6:25 PM. (milo)"

FUCK YOU ANY GIVEN SUNDAY IS THE MOST OVERRATED TURD EVER YOU COCKSUCKER

― aidsy (aidsy), Saturday, 2 December 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

it strikes me that you were probably being sarcastical and whatnot but fuck you anyway imo

― aidsy (aidsy), Saturday, 2 December 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i hate a bunch of these films but it's about the most boring list imaginable - "forrest gump" may have been famous in its date but it's completely evaporated from the culture: if you said "life is like a box of chocolates" in mixed company i bet half the people wouldn't know what you were talking about.

"wizard of oz" is the only great movie on this list.

― j.d. (j.d.), Sunday, 3 December 2006 00:01 (seventeen years ago) link

"famous in its day," i meant.

i like "jules and jim" but it's out of place in this list anyway, it's like the only remotely obscure (and not very obscure at that) thing here.

― j.d. (j.d.), Sunday, 3 December 2006 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

"forrest gump" may have been famous in its date but it's completely evaporated from the culture: if you said "life is like a box of chocolates" in mixed company i bet half the people wouldn't know what you were talking about.

haha you don't live in the south

― latebloomer (clonefeed), Sunday, 3 December 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Holy shit that Chunklet book is awful.

― nate patrin (natepatrin), Sunday, 3 December 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

fastest evap from the culture: Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon

if they had picked Shawshank Redemption the cancelled subscrips woulda sunk em

― dr M (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 December 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

problem w/CTHD was it was pretty par for the course as far as wire-fu goes and not that special to those familiar with the genre, and those most passionate about it seemed to be those who were unfamiliar with it. it's a good movie but not awesome (and a cut below those zhang yimou flicks from recent years, too).

― deep space nine (deep space nine), Sunday, 3 December 2006 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I find it hard to dislike a list that points out how much Forrest Gump fucking sucks, because it, well, fucking sucks. For more or less exactly the reason they said, too.

(They're 100% wrong about a few of those, too: 2001? Wizard of Oz?)

I mean, really, who gives a crap about Forrest Gump?

If anyone thinks there aren't a lot of people out there who rate Forrest Gump, American Beauty, et al...try taking a look at people's favorite movies on, say, Match.com sometime. It's like a Gump/American Beauty/Chocolat lovefest there. And Gump is a permanent part of American popular culture.

And no, I really don't believe the public at large rates many of these movies very highly at all

Not Moonstruck or Jules and Jim, no. But American Beauty, Good Will Hunting, Forrest Gump, A Beautiful Mind, they're like the Four Horsemen of Mediocrity, and they hold sway over a lot of people out there (once you get outside of NYC and DC, anyway).

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Monday, 4 December 2006 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Let me just say the phrase "a lot of people out there" a couple more times. Maybe if I say it again, Chocolat will magically be un-made.

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Monday, 4 December 2006 00:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Friend of mine coming back from seeing American Beauty: "That was the greatest movie I've ever seen."

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Monday, 4 December 2006 00:36 (seventeen years ago) link

where's 'gladiator'? people give ridley scott more crap for 'black hawk down' and 'kingdom of heaven', but those movies are actually pretty good. 'gladiator' is just a steaming pile.

― deep space nine (deep space nine), Monday, 4 December 2006 00:36 (seventeen years ago) link

otm about gladiator

― latebloomer (clonefeed), Monday, 4 December 2006 00:56 (seventeen years ago) link

btw awards for gladiator, beautiful mind, and crash, the oscars are worse than the fucking grammys

― max (maxreax), Monday, 4 December 2006 01:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it only in my world where Moonstruck seems to be on everyone's top ten lists? Few rank it number one, although I have met some who do, but this exchange is really common:

Person 1: ".....[blah blah blah] Moonstruck...."
Person 2: "Oh, Moonstruck! I love that movie, it's one of my alltime favorites!"

And I don't really remember too much about Moonstruck, so I'm always a little baffled by it, but I accept it's one of those movies that people really love that did nothing for me.

The other movie where this happens a lot: The Big Lebowski.

― Casuistry (casuistry), Monday, 4 December 2006 01:47 (seventeen years ago) link

heh. I've been resisting posting to this thread because all I have to say is is, "Oh, Moonstruck! I love that movie." I guess I'm one of a lot of people out there.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 4 December 2006 06:58 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a weird list, but I do agree with their choices of 2001 and Jules and Jim - though the reason they don't like the latter is completely different from mine. I liked the story in it, but not the way it was made, I guess I'm just not a fan of the New Wave aesthetic. Some of Truffaut's later films are great though. American Beauty and Forrest Gump are mediocre films that were overrated when they initially came out, but not necessarily anymore.

I finally saw Chicago last summer, and was positively surprised, it was actually better than its reviews suggested.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 4 December 2006 07:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Premiere = most overrated movie magazine ... no, not really even that.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 4 December 2006 07:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it basically qualifies as the Chicago of movie magazines.

― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Monday, 4 December 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't believe that there are still people jabbering that random lonely hearts and "real America" (UH) love, love, love these films and that somehow box office popularity is actually a qualifier for being "overrated" (try reading the actual articles that accompany the list, or is that too hard??), btw. NEXT SACRED COW PREMIERE WILL TACKLE NEXT: TITANIC.

― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Monday, 4 December 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

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