Swap for D12 in that trade and im down
― Carnitas, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:48 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that's totally fine! but on a pure results basis this is better for everyone except the rockets, and the rockets will be ok.
― cad, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:49 (twelve years ago) link
― Carnitas, Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:48 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
um yah because then you traded a center and a pf for the best center in basketball, instead of trading a center and a pf for a point guard on a team that still has kobe!
― cad, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:50 (twelve years ago) link
Also bynum for pau. But u catch my drift
― Carnitas, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that's totally fine! but on a pure results basis this is better for everyone except the rockets, and the rockets will be ok.― cad, Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:49 PM (1 minute ago) BookmarkPermalink
Not better for they way I view this fucked up league amymore
― Carnitas, Thursday, 15 December 2011 04:53 (twelve years ago) link
They= the
hay dudes just wondering what everyone who was saying the hornets werent going to get a better deal for paul are thinking abt right now
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 05:38 (twelve years ago) link
abt how hard i owned you or something else
and ive said this before but absolutely the only thing david stern did wrong imho happened last year when the nba bought a team, thats a fucked up situation, seeing as he is currently the acting owner everything he did as far as the paul saga makes perfect sense, its just like an owner saying his gm has autonomy and then waking the fuck up when the guy makes a horrible trade, which is exactly what happened
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 05:43 (twelve years ago) link
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Permalink
did anyone on here actually say that?
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:02 (twelve years ago) link
you kinda ruined your gloat but going over the top there imo
i prefer not to have to like reread the thread, you all know who you are, or maybe not
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:04 (twelve years ago) link
we just said it was a fair deal for NOH.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:06 (twelve years ago) link
naw
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:06 (twelve years ago) link
also it obvs wasnt, but thats another story
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:07 (twelve years ago) link
so in your mind you truly believe one of us said that that deal was the best deal NOH could possibly get? That there was no chance of a better deal?
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:07 (twelve years ago) link
ugh the fucking clippers?... u gotta b shittin me
― amon, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:08 (twelve years ago) link
arent they the west coast hornets anyway. wtf cp3
matt just be cool dude you were wrong, dont be like all confrontational and more wrong
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:09 (twelve years ago) link
well dude you're making shit up
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:11 (twelve years ago) link
no one said "NOH cannot get a better deal than this"
we said it was a good deal for them
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:12 (twelve years ago) link
release man, i know you spent a lot of time arguing for that shit deal, and stern turned around and schooled yr ass
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:12 (twelve years ago) link
http://ballhyped.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/stern-300x220.jpg
― amon, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:14 (twelve years ago) link
― amon, Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:08 AM (5 minutes ago)
the clippers will be v v good this year!
― k3vin k., Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:14 (twelve years ago) link
― k3vin k., Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:15 (twelve years ago) link
yeah the hornets are legit
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:16 (twelve years ago) link
lol i mean the clippers
the argument was
-this is a good deal for the hornets
-there is no overriding competitive reason for Stern to veto it as commish
The Hornets finding a better deal elsewhere was NOT the argument and you're being really juvenile in trying to turn that into the argument so you can be "right."
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:16 (twelve years ago) link
the clippers u mean
whoops meant to c+p this
http://www.foxsportswest.com/12/14/11/Raw-video-Blake-Griffin-and-DeAndre-Jord/landing_clippers.html?blockID=626930&feedID=3661
― k3vin k., Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:17 (twelve years ago) link
matt chill dawg
don't be this year's deej
matt srsly let go you were wrong
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:18 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― amon, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:18 (twelve years ago) link
no one should ever argue w/me abt basketball because i am always right
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:19 (twelve years ago) link
r.i.p. granny dainger
― amon, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:20 (twelve years ago) link
its sad he didnt understand basketball
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:21 (twelve years ago) link
dawg you totally have a right to gloat
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:22 (twelve years ago) link
― k3vin k., Thursday, December 15, 2011 6:14 AM
http://southerngaragebands.com/crystal-ball.jpg
― amon, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:22 (twelve years ago) link
thank you i appreciate that xp
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:23 (twelve years ago) link
They got a better deal and you were confident they would.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:24 (twelve years ago) link
but I didn't say they would never get a better deal, just that this was a good deal and vetoing it was ultra fishy.
honestly I think the trade was mediocre for all 3 teams... but that's kinda how trades work.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:27 (twelve years ago) link
imho in a competitive context such as this one, the mere existence of a better deal, and particularly the speed at which is was found, proves that the other deal was not a good one - like you can be all i paid a hundred and fifty dollars for this dvd player that is a good value, but if its selling for a hundred dollars everywhere else then its not a good deal, also just as far as basketball assets exchanged it was not equitable imo
i do think the veto was fishy, but like ive said it all stems from the fact that the nba owns a team which is just completely insane and really twists the whole concept of the league as a disinterested arbiter, im much happier w/the way things turned out, it wouldve been ridiculous for paul to be traded for a bag of donuts, particularly by a team owned by the league, which just obvs shows what a jackpot stern was in once the original trade was announced
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:33 (twelve years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:27 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
naw the rockets made out like bandits, they must be hating life right now
adande said this btw
"Gordon struggled to defend big guards such as Bryant and Joe Johnson, and even Paul, a good defender, wouldn't be much help there. Now the Clippers can utilize the newly acquired Chauncey Billups, who's also 6-3 but much stronger than Gordon."
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:48 (twelve years ago) link
chauncey billups: lockdown 2 guard.
Jordan, Dumars, Bowen, Billups.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:49 (twelve years ago) link
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, December 15, 2011 12:33 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
I just don't see going all in on Pau here. I think they would have remained mediocre.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 15 December 2011 06:50 (twelve years ago) link
Pau could rebound I guess but the end of that season was terrifying.