i've been behind on so many shows lately and felt more motivated to catch up on Sons of Anarchy, Homeland, etc. that i feel like even the few episodes of Boss i've watched i wasn't really giving my full attention. i may try to start over and watch the whole season in one go to see if i was just sleeping on it.
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, 9 December 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
*drudge siren* the reveal of what mac is short for on its always sunny is totally worth it *drudge siren*
― big popppa hoy, Friday, December 9, 2011 4:43 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink
More otms
― silby, Saturday, 10 December 2011 01:01 (twelve years ago) link
preferring Boss over Homeland is madness to me! The troubled daughter who is an addict but also a nurse AND a priest of some kind was anough reason for me to tune out, but then there's also those awful assistant-pol quickie scenes, and the general overplotting. not for me, at all.
― Simon H., Saturday, 10 December 2011 01:07 (twelve years ago) link
whereas it took until ep 10 (I think) for Homeland to seriously trip up at all in terms of plotting, I've found it to be crazy self-assured for a first season.
― Simon H., Saturday, 10 December 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link
The troubled daughter who is an addict but also a nurse AND a priest of some kind was anough reason for me to tune out, but then there's also those awful assistant-pol quickie scenes, and the general overplotting.
idgi this at all! like i don't think i know what overplotting is; I mean i don't think the story gets convoluted at any point; if there are assistant pol quick scenes then they're just to present the texture of the guy's schedule & job & the backdrop of what's going on with him. or they're things that feed into the story arc, like the building site/water thing. & all of these things are done so gracefully, even efficiently, I think; you get some introductory shot of people talking, the voiceover carries on while you kinda airily follow or track or consider KG. & with the daughter, you make it sound complicated!, but it hasn't ever seemed like ~too much~ in the plot or anything; i guess + she's a priest is the only slightly unwieldy add-on, but her character is that she's the recovering addict/nurse & her actions are in that ballpark. hers is the strand of boss i think of when i think of how good & broad & well fleshed out it is, because it's such an immersive sub-story you slip into, when you're following her in the clinic.
i am obviously arguing a subjective pov, here, but just i guess i think that so much of what appeals about it is its breadth & sprawl, in folding these copious things in - i guess in a sorta 'procedural'/'this is the daily business' west-wingy kinda way, in which there's the over-all arc & then the daily bread of the characters butting heads & showing rather than telling. & the problem i have with homeland is it being too directional, slightly, like my crit about ancillary characters seeming cartoonishly thin - that it would benefit from more ambient exploration of the spaces they're in, over succinct plotting.
― Never translate German (schlump), Saturday, 10 December 2011 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
haha by "assistant-pol quickie" I meant the sex scenes involving the blonde assistant. which were, at least in the first 2 eps (especially the 2nd), embarrassingly awful imo.
― Simon H., Saturday, 10 December 2011 03:18 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it really tipped past 'edgy cable drama titillation' to 'this is like cheesy soft core'
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Saturday, 10 December 2011 03:21 (twelve years ago) link
14-year-old me is astounded at my saying so, but the sex/nudity on both Boss and Homeland is a little gratuitous. Like "Lt. Daniels and his chiseled bare ass" gratuitous.
― In Your Velour Slacks (Hairplug Receipts), Saturday, 10 December 2011 04:05 (twelve years ago) link
ok there is no such thing as gratuitous morena baccarin
― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Saturday, 10 December 2011 04:12 (twelve years ago) link
besides some of the early Baccarin stuff, basically all of the nudity on Homeland is integrated fairly naturally IMO.
― Simon H., Saturday, 10 December 2011 04:26 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i think homeland compares favorably to hbo shows i have loved in terms of gratuitous sex scenes. the scenes with damian lewis and his wife were hard to watch, but seemed necessary to the story.
― horseshoe, Saturday, 10 December 2011 04:32 (twelve years ago) link
Boss finale :-(
― sterl, Saturday, 10 December 2011 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
Conceding that I've maybe seen enough naked Morena Baccarin in any context produces some like real high-level internal conflict, let me tell you.
― In Your Velour Slacks (Hairplug Receipts), Saturday, 10 December 2011 05:34 (twelve years ago) link
The woman with the cat on Misfits was Mandy on Brookie, no? Complicit in the whole Under The Patio shit?
― aldo, Sunday, 11 December 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link
Also today's Doctor Who news = WOO (although truth to tell neither story is brilliant).
― aldo, Sunday, 11 December 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
no one wanted to talk about how much community sucked this week?
― max max max max, Sunday, 11 December 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
Already happening on the two Community threada
― Mordy, Sunday, 11 December 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
oh btw i started watching happy endings this weekend--pleasant surprise--it's funny and the cast has great chemistry but it exists in this weird space where either i'm cracking up or i'm so annoyed at certain mannerisms/tics (basically, 60% of what the gay guy and lil wayans say/do and like 40% of what the kim catrall-looking woman says/does and also and in particular the way casey wilson says "ahmahhhhzing" or how they all say "casheesh") that i want to turn the tv off
― max max max max, Monday, 12 December 2011 00:17 (twelve years ago) link
its a very broey show for all its attempts at distancing itself from bro culture
max that's basically exactly how i feel when you or slocki or cr?m is saying things like "relaish" instead of "relationship" or whatever absurd abbreviations you guys use
― skrillex pretend (Mr. Stevenson #2), Monday, 12 December 2011 00:37 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but were like fun and cool *makes guns out of fingers*
― max max max max, Monday, 12 December 2011 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
i mean i always have this argument on the 'how i met your mother' threads w/ people who think ted being a douche is a problem and not hilarious
― skrillex pretend (Mr. Stevenson #2), Monday, 12 December 2011 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i guess the writers/actors feel "in on the joke" of ted being super lame w/ HIMYM but it feels less so w/ happy endings. like i want "amahhhzing" to be more of a joke on casey wilson instead of just like "a joke" that sort of hangs there and its unclear if we all agree that its a horrible thing to say. possibly this show is too sophisticated for me
― max max max max, Monday, 12 December 2011 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
but every single character besides casey wilson's thinks "amahhzing" is horrible and ostracizes her when she says it, how is that ambiguous
― skrillex pretend (Mr. Stevenson #2), Monday, 12 December 2011 00:53 (twelve years ago) link
oh i like totally didnt pick up on that
― max max max max, Monday, 12 December 2011 01:29 (twelve years ago) link
still, "casheesh"
luuuuuuuck
― Mordy, Monday, 12 December 2011 05:08 (twelve years ago) link
oh mann
― gukbe, Monday, 12 December 2011 05:16 (twelve years ago) link
Boardwalk was pretty amazing.
I liked the Luck pilot - pretty much "sum of its parts," but, y'know, not such a bad thing to be in this case.
― Simon H., Monday, 12 December 2011 07:30 (twelve years ago) link
Also today's Doctor Who news = WOO (although truth to tell neither story is brilliant).― aldo, Sunday, 11 December 2011 22:41 (Yesterday) Bookmark Permalink
― aldo, Sunday, 11 December 2011 22:41 (Yesterday) Bookmark Permalink
Read that as "today's Doctor Who news = WOO (dun derun, dun derun, dun derun, dum dum de de dun derun...)
― Jilted John and Marsha (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Monday, 12 December 2011 09:02 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyuwGzYIAns
― Number None, Monday, 12 December 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
Luck was cool. My expectations were super high so for the pilot to hit "good, could turn great over the course of the series" I thought was a win
― chjips ahoy (sandbox dmr), Monday, 12 December 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
kinda hard for me to deal w/ that show on a purely "is it good entertainment??" level cause I work in racing. thought it rang pretty true though. definitely not dumbed down for a mass audience imo except maybe in one little scene.
― chjips ahoy (sandbox dmr), Monday, 12 December 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
I was pretty lost for a chunks of it (I know nothing about horse race betting or...really...betting in general). It all made sense by the end though.
― gukbe, Monday, 12 December 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
NY Mag did a pretty good "episode guide for those who know nothing about racing" piece
― chjips ahoy (sandbox dmr), Monday, 12 December 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
when we get back to ilx proper plz post copiously on luck thread
― Mordy, Monday, 12 December 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
I always confuse Parks & Recreation w/ Community bcz, like all other series that have debuted in the last 5 years, I haven't seen them.
afaik nobody posted this yet:
http://www.slantmagazine.com/tv/feature/the-25-best-tv-shows-of-2011/292
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 12 December 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
lol how to make it in america
― Mr. Stevenson #2, Monday, 12 December 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
there is literally almost no show HBO aired new episodes of this year that is not on that list
― Mr. Stevenson #2, Monday, 12 December 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
can I just say Grimm is pretty shockingly grim; I was totally taken aback by the gore in the pied piper episode (!)
― OH NOES, Monday, 12 December 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
haha I'm sure I won't be able to help myself. I think I started the thread iirc.
― chjips ahoy (sandbox dmr), Monday, 12 December 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ the disconnect between the first sentence of the Breaking Bad blurb and its placement as #2
― I left my login in El Sandboxo, Monday, 12 December 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
There's Breaking Bad, and then there's the rest of television except "Louie."
― chjips ahoy (sandbox dmr), Monday, 12 December 2011 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
― In Your Velour Slacks (Hairplug Receipts), Saturday, 10 December 2011 05:34 (2 days ago) Bookmark Permalink
where is all this morena baccarin nudity and is it on a tv show worth watching so i dont feel like a perv?
― big popppa hoy, Monday, 12 December 2011 21:26 (twelve years ago) link
wtf at that Slant list.
― gukbe, Monday, 12 December 2011 21:26 (twelve years ago) link
also the writer doesn't seem to have seen the Boardwalk finale when he wrote that.
― gukbe, Monday, 12 December 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
it's a pretty canonical list, not very surprising but mostly accurate, but i can't take any "best of tv" list with "the walking dead" on it seriously - such a shitty show
― n/a, Monday, 12 December 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
i was talking to my brother about the walking dead the other day. him: "you should give it another go! its like if a zombie apocalypse actually happened" me: "nothing happens, it is hour upon hour of trying not to get eaten also america is a big place of dull nothingness." him: "Yeah, exactly!" me: "..."
― big popppa hoy, Monday, 12 December 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
The blurb for Walking Dead is hilarious tho. I love the defense for badly written and acted characters being basically "well, sometimes shitty people survive zombie apocalypses too".
― I left my login in El Sandboxo, Monday, 12 December 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link