you mocked me for saying they could pick 18th, then said they'd be the 5th pick in the east.... which could be 18th.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:55 (twelve years ago) link
yes i totally make trades based on what could be the best possible circumstances, hey maybe kevin martin will learn how to rebound pass and defend, think abt this what if this happened
1 knicks2 bulls3 celtics4 nets5 hawks6 pacers7 sixers8 heat
now what
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:55 (twelve years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:55 AM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
5th in the east could be the 20th pick, it could also be the 18th pick, they both suck
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:56 (twelve years ago) link
but you said that me saying they'd pick 17th or 18th showed I "couldn't do math." and then you put them right in that range!
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:57 (twelve years ago) link
eric bledsoe, ty lawson, javale mcgee, jj hickson, roy hibbert, nick young, sean williams, rajon rondo, danny granger, hakeem warrick, josh smith, j.r. smith, jameer nelson
i mean these range from stars to very solid role players
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:57 (twelve years ago) link
well to be fair i said neither you or jordan could do math
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:57 (twelve years ago) link
yes i totally make trades based on what could be the best possible circumstances
i made a trade based on a report that dwight howard wants to go to the nets! i mean, it's certainly something for the knicks to be worried about. i'm not sure why we should pretend that it couldn't happen.
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:58 (twelve years ago) link
also i was using jordan prediction abt the knicks finishing position as an argument, i expect them to finish higher than the hawks
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:58 (twelve years ago) link
my projection is obv a worse case scenario but it's also entirely probable
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:59 (twelve years ago) link
what r the nets going to trade for howard exactly, curious
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:59 (twelve years ago) link
lopez and picks presumably (FIRST ROUNDERS)
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 08:59 (twelve years ago) link
actually worse case scenario is both of their perpetually injured big men bite the dust and they're left with carmelo and a bunch of guys who would get laughed out of the rucker
even tho i was shitting on brook lopez earlier, i would prob take him over bynum if i had to make that trade
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:00 (twelve years ago) link
brook lopez and some russain whores, good thing david stern doesnt own the magic
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:00 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think he's better, but i wouldn't take on the risk of bynum
btw can we just digress for a second and talk about how andrew bynum's knees are going to turn into tissue paper w/ this schedule? imagine bynum in game 5 of the nba finals this year? his knee ligaments may actually explode out of his body.
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:01 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 4:00 AM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
if you cant get better than either of those dudes for the 2nd best player in the nba just choke yrself
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:02 (twelve years ago) link
sebastian telfair got taken over al jefferson, josh smith, j.r. smith and jameer nelson
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:02 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 4:01 AM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
when i heard abt the paul trade i was loling at the prospect of the top 3 lakers players being injured
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:03 (twelve years ago) link
― v-shasty, Friday, December 9, 2011 4:02 AM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
i DO recall this
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, December 9, 2011 3:02 AM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark
lol this is pretty much what the CEO of the magic did, except replace "choke yourself" with "get drunk one night and sabotage your career"
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:03 (twelve years ago) link
was traded for the pick that became brandon roy i remember for some ODD REASON wtf
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:04 (twelve years ago) link
i know i've driven the convo off course here, but it's hilarious how every time an int'l player gets drafted in the second round everyone is like "ah, could be a nice stash pick yada yada" look at this cast of characters all drafted in the second round of the 04 draft
Peter John RamosAlbert MirallesViktor SanikidzeHa Seung-JinSergei LishoukVassilis SpanoulisChristian DrejerRomain SatoMatt FreijeSergei Karaulov
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:07 (twelve years ago) link
I have a lot of things to say about PJ Ramos
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:08 (twelve years ago) link
ginobili was drafted w/the last pick of the second round iirc, lol still
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:08 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/kAs91.png
found a lil tell here, note the author
Hollinger thought the Lakers overpaid.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:09 (twelve years ago) link
i wouldve thought it was not the best but a reasonable trade if the 2nd best player had gone to nola, its houstons role thats really baffling
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:10 (twelve years ago) link
gasol is the only other player who has any value!
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:11 (twelve years ago) link
very few people agree with you about that
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:11 (twelve years ago) link
Scola has value man, come on.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:12 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, this was offset with a monumental upgrade at point guard, but look at the big picture. Pau-for-Paul is pretty much an even swap.
luv hollinger but this is crazy talk
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:13 (twelve years ago) link
it boggles my mind that you think chandler is an all-star but Scola has no value.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:13 (twelve years ago) link
the hornets were very clearly taking the nuggets road to success of putting guys together and seeing what happens
― v-shasty, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:13 (twelve years ago) link
adding pau to the hornets doesn't do anything for them
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 4:11 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
hey most people still think kobes the best player in the nba
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:14 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I'm just saying don't hold out hope that guys like adande are gonna be the ones disagreeing with you
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:14 (twelve years ago) link
Scola is a really good player man. I disagree with you about Martin but at least I understand. But Scola is just obviously a good player.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:15 (twelve years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, December 9, 2011 4:13 AM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
chandler is an all star, like he played on an all star team, i never said scola doesnt have value, i have been a long time scola supporter on this v message board as a matter of fact, its martin who i think sucks, but a 31 y/o journey man is not the guy a rebuilding team needs
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:16 (twelve years ago) link
hes just liek a solid dude aka inconsequential in a trade for a top 5 player
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:17 (twelve years ago) link
he's not a journeyman in any sense of the word.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:18 (twelve years ago) link
hes like a journeyman+, hes not a game changer, he couldnt be the 3rd best player on a championship team, he could be prob the 5th best player on a championship team, i like him, he does his thing w/great aplomb, hes v crafty, chis paul is one of the great point gards to ever play the game
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:20 (twelve years ago) link
when did Chandler play on an all-star team?
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:21 (twelve years ago) link
answer: in high school
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:22 (twelve years ago) link
oops my bad i thought he did but he did not, anyway last year i wouldve picked him, hes one of the best defenders in the L!
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:23 (twelve years ago) link
07/08 he was sick in nola too!
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:24 (twelve years ago) link
i mean chris kaman made the team last year be serious!
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:26 (twelve years ago) link
and tim duncan
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:27 (twelve years ago) link
but w/e im going to bed, h8 u guys, welcome back nba xo
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Friday, 9 December 2011 09:28 (twelve years ago) link
sorry if this has already been posted, but dan gilbert's email to david stern, urging him to block the lakers/CP3 trade, is priceless:
Commissioner,It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?Please advise….Dan G.
It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.
This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.
Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.
I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).
I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.
I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?
Please advise….
Dan G.
with best personal regards, danny g.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 December 2011 12:10 (twelve years ago) link