― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link
I just saw this movie version of his play Edmond on New Years Eve, with WH Macy and Julia Stiles and others, and since someone else directed it the dialogue is less distracting than usually and it's easier to get caught up in the characters instead of thinking about the author. (It's really much better than I'd expected - and a few of the scenes are absolutely perfect as individual scenes.)
xpost- One dramamtic trick, though, Jenny, is to hide the drama in a banal situation. Like - the guy on the cell phone could be talking to the surgeon who is operating on his daughter in an hour - that's dramatic. Or he could be talking with the guy fixing the stucco on his house, and somehow from that "ordinary" conversation, something profound about the guy's life happens. If he doesn't change by the end, that's bad drama - but sometimes our lives change dramatically from a moment that seemed boring.
― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link
Aren't there some web comics (or print, I dunno) that put principles more like what John is talking about into practice? I might be thinking of the Itchy and Scratchy lemonade cartoon that someone quoted on the banal conversation thread, but I can totally see a four panel comic in which two characters have a totally pointless and boring conversation.
― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't understand this. I found some of the road shots really interesting, too: the Gordon Lightfoot song soundtracking rain on a windshield is particularly beautiful -- but I don't see how the "context" takes away from the beauty. What is the context, anyway?
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link
The Brown Bunny is an interesting example of seeing a guy do very little for a long, long time, but then at the end you understand the circumstances. If it didn't have the payoff, it would be more like a travelogue than anything else. Which, if the scenery was pretty...
x-post - Jesse beat me to it!
― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jeff... (Jeff...), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link
And yes, good call on all of those, Eric. I'd also add Bully, which demonstrated the banality of evil more provocatively than anything else I can think of.
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:25 (seventeen years ago) link
I want to continue this over drinks. Because I want to make this movie.
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:27 (seventeen years ago) link
You're right, J. - all three of those are OMG 9/11, OMG COLUMBUINE, OMG ROCK-STAR SUICIDE, ho-de-hum, breakfast, etc. With no other competing dramatic storylines (kid dying of cancer, couple fighting, whatever), which I love.
― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link
So little depends upon the Brown Bunnydriving across the country.
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link
my loss i'm sure.
― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 00:01 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost: Otto, it's cool -- I only ended up staying there for about 15 minutes, just long enough to meet Jon. I did run into an ex-co-worker of mine, though.
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 00:05 (seventeen years ago) link
If they throw this one out, I'm going on a rampage. I don't have $1.69 to spend on Nantucket Nectars every other day.
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 00:20 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/store/images/2078-2015-12L.jpg
― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 00:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 02:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 02:03 (seventeen years ago) link
2x, just don't get the narrow mouth kind like the one in the picture because you can't fit 1. ice cubes through it and 2. a water purifier on it.
― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 02:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 03:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 03:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 03:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 03:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 03:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 06:11 (seventeen years ago) link
I am now down to one bottle and no caps, though, so I need to pick up a couple more to get my three bottle rotation in place for next semester.
― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link