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thanks everyone.
i found the lump on his side & took him to the vet to get it checked out. i opted to have the surgery & now i'm glad b/c it grew over the holidays! poor guy.
he's so sweet it breaks my heart.

sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Would stuff happen outside the window?

danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i like john's question.

sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I have no issues with eating lobsters but that pic does make it seem a little weird to have three animals of approximately the same size on your floor, only one of whom will soon be eaten.

JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Would stuff happen outside the window?

Like another, more interesting movie?

Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I was just thinking maybe the dude would react if there was something(s) going on out there. But yeah, that too.

danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

So basically, Phonebooth.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

It would be funny if there were superhero fights, plane crashes, etc. that were just completely ignored.

JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

slapstick window washers

danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

was anything at stake in 'my dinner with andre?' anything in the conversation, i mean?

sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd like it if we didn't hear the other end and that it was still somehow suspenseful, like in Babel, though for 90 minutes instead of 30 seconds. And, yeah, we'd see all the pretty stuff outside, as if this were high up in the CNA building or something. Maybe the guy would go and take a leak at some point and we'd see the rest of the office maze.

I like the trappings of a story like this because it does have to stay interesting and suspenseful. Stephen King's at his best when he pulls this off - there's Misery, and then he also has two novels that only have a single character.

The trouble with this austerity is that Dan and Jordan's ideas sound good.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I have no issues with eating lobsters but that pic does make it seem a little weird to have three animals of approximately the same size on your floor, only one of whom will soon be eaten

That's the brilliance of it.

So basically, Phonebooth.

I didn't see that. Premise was appealing, but Schumacher plus Farrell didn't sound promising -- was it good?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

it's an action flick. aren't you allergic to those or something?

sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, kinda. Children of Men was the most technically impressive, but the least interesting, during its final half hour.

I'd like it if we didn't hear the other end and that it was still somehow suspenseful, like in Babel

What part of Babel are you thinking about here?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

How about a movie where the first half is a dude on the phone and you only hear his half of the conversation, and then the second half is the other person w/their half of the conversation?

JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

john, what was that funny exchange . . . oh wait. i just remembered. you thought that hong kong phooey was a bazooka joe character.

i kinda like your idea for the movie, jordan.

sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

It's amazing how my tolerance for working goes right down the tubes after a vacation. I only have to work four hours today and 2.5 into it I'm totally climbing the walls. GET ME OUT OF HERE!!!

Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to admit, I'm a complete sucker for movies that show the same scene from different perspectives. Obv. Rashomon is the hip reference here, but Jackie Brown does it well, Lost does it all the time (e.g., the Others watching Flight 815 crash, the Tailies responding to Boone's radio transmission), and Babel, actually, has the phone call between Brad Pitt and the housekeeper at the beginning and end of the movie, from each side.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm thinking of the phone call in Babel.

Maybe 10 minutes of phone talk, 10 minutes of slapstick window-washers, 10 minutes of phone, etc.

Jenny, I will not be offended if you skip this movie. Though maybe the guy will get disembowled at the end or something, if that helps.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

XP: OMG that Hal Hartley movie is all about that! Is it Flirt?

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Last Days did that different-scene thing well (and was also a chamber movie - not two characters, but not many more).

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Kelsey, this thread made me realize that I'm pretty ignorant of Hanna-Barbera characters.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Vincent Gallo gives him a blowjob at the end.

JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

We do hear the other end in Babel, though.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

In the opening scene?

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, Flirt It plays the same story in 4 different locales with different people involved but same themes.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, you're right, J.

And there's another Hartley movie that uses the same script for three different scenes, right? Haven't seen any of his except the first one.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I have no issues with eating lobsters but that pic does make it seem a little weird to have three animals of approximately the same size on your floor, only one of whom will soon be eaten.

And only one of them would look the same on the plate as it did before. That's why seabugs are weird.

I like Jordan's idea of ignoring plane crashes, etc. You could do another take on 9/11, one showing America's complacency or somesuch.

crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Though maybe the guy will get disembowled at the end or something, if that helps.

Maybe you could send some zombies or evil robots rampaging through the office.

Chamber movies... that's a very descriptive term. I've never known what to call those types of movies so thanks.

Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

The only thing that made Phonebooth at all tolerable was seeing Colin Ferrel (sp?) standing around being hot.

crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to confess: I don't really understand Hal Hartley's popularity. He seems fairly obscure -- there's never any hype around his movies, except maybe Henry Fool (which came out during the Great Summer of Indie Films [1998] and is not coincidentally the only one I've seen, if you don't count The Book of Life) -- and yet I seem to know quite a few people who are big fans of his. I'm forever telling myself, "Oh, I need to see some Hartley films" and then forgetting all about it, because nothing reminds me except when people periodically bring him up in conversation. I don't think Flirt and Amateur and Trust are even on Netflix.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Conversations with Other Women comes out on dvd next week, I put it on the ol' queue.

xpost yeah I like "chamber movies" too

JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

So do I. I should see more theatre, probably.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I am unsold on chamber movies (cf my inability to stay awake throughout Metropolitan) but I do love Trust so much. Not on Netflix, no. :((((

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

OK... my best/worst movie idea ever: World War 1 as a horror flick, with the machines of war introduced in that conflict as the "bad guys".

danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I can handle a chamber movie if the acting is great and the conflict/topic of conversation is of interest to me. Otherwise I just end up feeling like I'm locked in a tiny room with people I absolutely hate.

Off topic: What is it called when in the middle of a novel, there's another smaller story that's related to the larger story but isn't the main focus of it? The only example I can think of is the one that prompted me to ask the question - in All the King's Men, Jack Burden tells the story of Cass Mastern, which is long and relevant but also a separate story as far as tone, time, place, etc. goes.

Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

A frame story, Jenny? Although in those the inner story is usually the point?

JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

it is a tragedy that Trust isn't on DVD yet, Laurel. I wish you could come over and watch my VHS copy!

horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I can handle a chamber movie if the acting is great and the conflict/topic of conversation is of interest to me. Otherwise I just end up feeling like I'm locked in a tiny room with people I absolutely hate.

WHO'S AFRAID OF VA WOOLF?!!!!

crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Framing usually refers to how the main story is treated, right?

crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw a bunch of hartley movies that i got from netflix. i think it was amateur that i started with...loved that movie.

eric, would the guy sing? that could liven things up. maybe.

JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

No, I don't think frame story is right. That would be like The Princess Bride or Tales from the Crypt (to name two extremely literary examples). This is sort of like a long-ass diversion story in the middle of an independent story. I feel like the Bronte sisters pull this kind of stunt in some of their books, but I'm rusty on my Victorian lit and can't remember specifically.

xpost - In Who's Afraid of VA Woolf, I'm locked in a room with four horrible people who are drunk and hilarious and awesome, so it's okay.

Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm thinking of, like, Arabian Nights, Frankenstein, Canterbury Tales, even Usual Suspects, etc.

JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

VA Woolf was an example of a GOOD movie.

crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

That was an xpost, yeah I thought so. I don't know if there's a different term for those. It reminds me of The Thin Man where five pages in the middle are randomly devoted to the Alferd Packer (cannibal) story.

Those Hal Hartley movies sound interesting, but if they're not on netflix then I will never see them. I put Amateur on my queue though.

JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

It is called the interruptischmiddelstorien.

I wonder what it's called. Like the watch story in Pulp Fiction.

VA Woolf is the classic chamber drama.

Maybe he could sing, Julia. Maybe it'll be Nick Cave staring out an office window for 90 minutes.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Jackie Brown is Tarantino's best film. I will fight you so hard if you disagree.

Phonebooth had an interesting premise, poorly executed.

I have an interesting idea for a suspense film involving a portaledge and a multipitch aid climb on Baffin Island, called The Great and Secret Show.

giboyojimbo (gbx), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the singing idea, but I think it should be long spans of one-sided telephone conversation, interrupted by several short songs that he sings directly to the camera. Or perhaps that someone else sings, commenting on the action (or lack thereof), like a Greek chorus.

n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

That's beautiful, Nick. It'll be minutes and minutes of "Uh-huh. [Pause.] I know, I know [Pause.] Did you tell her that? [Pause.] Uh-huh. [Pause.] Uh-huh," and then he just turns to the camera and lets his heart out.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Story_within_a_story ?

It's like picture-within-a-picture.

JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link


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