BACHMANN: People do find out [in my book] that I did not get asked to my senior prom.HANNITY: Well, neither did I. And nobody would go with me.
TAKE THE HINT
― OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
gop nominee for 2044: the child of hannity & bachmann jrs
― Never translate German (schlump), Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
eh, depending on how the teen years go, that child could be the nominee for the Green Party
― OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
Re the "referendum on Clinton" crack: a fun poll of the general electorate would be to name a job Newt has previously held. You sports fans always forget that politics of the past is all a blur to the majority.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
yeah sometimes I wonder what % of people can even tell you what the speaker of the house is
― iatee, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
"is that a subwoofer"
― OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
kinda
― Never translate German (schlump), Thursday, 8 December 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/386093_324864320876361_205344452828349_1224450_1649967952_n.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 December 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
The fantastical repurposing of reality:
http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/blog/?p=16219
― clemenza, Thursday, 8 December 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
tpm finds a reason to run this photo
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/assets_c/2011/12/bieber-perry-2-cropped-proto-custom_28.jpg
― slandblox goole, Thursday, 8 December 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
why is perry always smiling so much? that's not his appeal, when he had any appeal. he needs to grimmace, like he's ready to jump into a car full of commies and tear off their shoulderblades.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 8 December 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link
http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01340/webperry_jpg_1340045cl-8.jpg
He looks less...medicated, for sure.
― clemenza, Thursday, 8 December 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
nice man ring
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 8 December 2011 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
Josten's, I assume
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 8 December 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
He looks like he's in the midst of rhyming off three great truths, and as he reveals the first one, he's very focused.
― clemenza, Thursday, 8 December 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
Breaking news:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/389786_10150526189642494_680297493_10757815_1122904558_n.jpg
― polyphonic, Thursday, 8 December 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
I expect damn few of them look like the one pictured there.
― Aimless, Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
kobe -- howard -- paul
v.
bron -- wade -- bosh -- battier
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
advantage heat, obv., since we also have EDDY CURRY
they'd make a hell of a cabinet.
― Dranke, the German Drake Impersonator (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:15 (twelve years ago) link
oh, i see what i did there.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
to be fair, kobe, paul, howard, wade, bron, and bosh would make a better, smarter slate of presidential candidates than what the GOP has now.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:23 (twelve years ago) link
I just figured Newt Fever had finally caused you to flip out.
― clemenza, Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:23 (twelve years ago) link
"He seemed fine till Newt caught up in New Hampshire, then he just rambled on about basketball for the rest of the campaign."
― clemenza, Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
Root for Newt
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
Newtonium: Enriching America
newt is actually being traded to the hoston rockets as part of this chris paul-to-la lakers deal, so . . .
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
Frum agrees with me re: Gingrich's biggest problem being his inability to work within his own party
The most important thing to remember about Newt Gingrich is that his colleagues in the House of Representatives effectively fired him as their leader even before the impeachment crisis, shifting power instead into the more competent hands of Tom DeLay. It was Tom DeLay who ran the caucus while Newt Gingrich was traveling the country giving speeches about Total Quality Management and the Struggle for Western Civilization.
Gingrich was not pushed aside by his caucus for any of the offenses listed above. He was pushed aside because he plunged the caucus into chaos, because he lost fights that he himself had chosen, because he could not control his mouth, because he wanted to be a star more than he wanted to get things done. There’s a reason Gingrich is fascinated by management gurus: he needs the help.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
Basically, I don't disagree with anything negative that's being said about Gingrich right now--I'm quite sure it's all true, and a lot worse than that. I'm just not sure anymore if it's going to matter in terms of the nomination. Something has propelled him to where he is right now, and I don't think you can just say that he's an anti-Romney vessel anymore; there's more to it than that. Of the explanations offered upthread, the one that makes the most sense to me is that he's the guy who (in the eyes of Republicans) is finally going to put Obama in his place--who's going to talk circles around him in the debates, who'll hiss the proper amount of contempt, who'll (fundamentally) put him in his place. Republican voters don't know Morbius, so they're going with Newt. He may implode, he may not.
― clemenza, Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:49 (twelve years ago) link
what's propelled him is that the other non-romney's are stupid, embarrassing clowns.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
and as Morbz would say, no votes have been cast. there's a lot more to getting a nomination than being out front in polls.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:51 (twelve years ago) link
Well, sure. But leading in three of the first four states is a good place to be on Dec. 8.
― clemenza, Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
<i>what's propelled him is that the other non-romney's are stupid, embarrassing clowns.</i>
I don't think it's that straightforward. That gave him an opening, sure, but none of the previous non-Romneys got close to where he is today. I think there's something deeper that's come to the surface, like there was with Palin or Nixon.
― clemenza, Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
Gingrich / Paul 2012: Drop the Newt-Ron bomb!
― nickn, Friday, 9 December 2011 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
Quayle yesterday, John Sununu (Sr.) today--Romney's really raiding the Crossfire-era closet for surrogates. Expecting Liddy Dole, Ralph Reed, Richard Thornburgh, and Al D'Amato any day now.
http://www.nhpr.org/post/romney-sics-sununu-gingrich
― clemenza, Friday, 9 December 2011 00:55 (twelve years ago) link
politico ran a story this evening that newt's rise has really taken romney off-guard, and forced him to go on offense at a time (and in a way) he didn't want to.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 December 2011 04:47 (twelve years ago) link
What Romney really wanted was stroll through the primaries, with no serious challengers.
― Aimless, Friday, 9 December 2011 04:49 (twelve years ago) link
Next episode begins tomorrow!
It's going to be a tricky debate for both of them. Romney has to snap out of his slumber and attack; Gingrich will likely be forced to step down from Mount Buddha and actually say less than complimentary things about Romney--and may even get pushed enough that he turns nasty.
― clemenza, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
How come there are never any debates at like 3 PM on Sunday? (I know: football.) I'd like to watch one in real time one of these days.
― jaymc, Friday, 9 December 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
newt doesn't have to do that at all! in fact, he should keep being somewhat generous toward his GOP opponents, as he has been in these debates, and take only sly, veiled attacks at romney (unless things get out of hand). he is good at those types of attacks, actually, and he gets a lot out of them in terms of silent signaling to his constituency.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 9 December 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe, maybe not. Allowing yourself to be attacked unchecked is a risk. Ask John Kerry.
― clemenza, Friday, 9 December 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link
Good post/links from Sullivan:
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/12/does-romney-have-time-to-go-negative.html
The gist being that Romney will be running the much greater risk.
― clemenza, Friday, 9 December 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
Here's some Nate Silver for ya.
― Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 9 December 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
The resistance to Romney among his party's activists is so strong that in my view, he's cooked. Once they converge on their preferred anti-Romney choice, which appears to be His Newtness atm, they'll wipe Romney out of the picture.
But it really doesn't matter who they choose as their anti-Romney, as long as they choose someone. Newt's big recent surge makes it odds on that the activists have finally stopped dithering and wistfully yearning for Palin as their paladin, and he has inherited the nutty Cain coalition.
― Aimless, Friday, 9 December 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
Meanwhile the conservative pundits have united in their loathing for Newt.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/newt-gingrich-will-not-be-the-republican-nominee--even-if-it-means-a-brokered-convention/2011/08/25/gIQARQ0DiO_blog.html
I'm not as convinced as Klein is that the pundits hold such sway over the nomination process though.
― o. nate, Friday, 9 December 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
really curious to see how this whole this plays out; i'm not mr. historian but i believe we are in unknown territory in a lot of ways in this election.
the last democratic contest got very heated; underlying this was the fact that its two lasting candidates were both well respected and loved in the party, and normally could draw big constituencies within it.
if the gop contest shakes down to just romney and gingrich, it would be nearly the opposite situation. neither one of them has a majority (or even very large) support base within the party, each has huge negatives at either the elite or base level. how nasty can it get if nobody likes either enough to fight? i wonder if it will turn out to be sort of... dull.
― slandblox goole, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
If Gingrich does amass an early lead against Romney, I would not be too surprised to see a late-entrant whom establishment Republicans could rally behind.
― o. nate, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
i would, that person doesn't exist
― slandblox goole, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
^^^
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
It'd be too late. Delegates promise themselves to candidates months in advance; it'd take a lot of scrambling to get them to swtich.
― Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link