my country is drowning

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/edu/gwdebate/

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html

http://www.realclimate.org/

I link to this wiki article only because there are a lot of good links at the bottom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

Here is a list of scientists opposing global warming consensus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_global_warming_consensus

this is such a huge problem - that and that sort of 'well, gee, who minds a bit of global warming if it means we get lovely balmy summers!' stuff. I think that's why people are trying to popularise the term 'climate change' instead - from what I've heard, the forecasts are for more extreme weather and raised global temperature overall, not for the same weather we've always had but a couple of degrees warmer all round. And then it's "what do these scientists know, going on about global warming when we've had the best snowfall in ten years - so much for that, eh" and a growing distrust of science, when the thing to blame isn't the scientists or their science, but the simplistic spin put on scientific discoveries by certain laymen.

WRT to the kerfuffle above, I think there is a distinction between "I am a climate change sceptic" and "I don't believe that climate change is responsible for beach erosion in Wales."

I'm giving Nu-Edward the benefit of the doubt that he meant the latter. However, I don't think it's really rational to cling to the former view after overwhelming evidence.

obviously i was just trying to wind you up into dropping the Science - with attitude. many thanks.

(mind you, they don't take standard light bulbs anyway)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSq1cez_flQ

zooey is so annoying amirite

*gets annoyed furiously*

how can a grown woman in a tiara be considered anything but annoying? It cheapens the whole idea of irony.

Why on earth did you pick ~this~ beautiful thread of Wales and lost villages to go reviving with this?

Also post Trugh Bombs thread I ultimately utterly suspect any man who dismisses any woman, ESP an attractive one, as "annoying"

FT both of my posts were continuations of long-running memes on ILX

personally I don't have any strong feelings about zooey deschanel except that maybe she shaves her armpits too frequently

drown both of them

Also post Trugh Bombs thread I ultimately utterly suspect any man who dismisses any woman, ESP an attractive one, as "annoying"

1. FT is the arbiter of who is attractive
2. Less attractive people can be more annoying

Got it

INTERRUPTING COW!!!! MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Wow, for someone who prides themselves on argument you sure are shit at it. (xpost to CKDH)

ZD is incredibly annoying, though.

Does no one remember Sunny Successor's pithy comment that started the Truth Bombs thread? Really?

HAVE WE ALL FORGOTTEN REAL ILX SO SOON?!?!?

Soon it'll be like that whole 11 years never happened and we'll wake up with Bobby G in the shower.

(I still want to know what on earth ZD has to do with Wales or drowned villages, though. Considering how much I loved drowned villages.)

I think it was something to do with Whiney wanting to drown-fuck her? Or... something. I never quite got the whole "Would Drown" thing.

Anyway, if "annoying" is potentially too gendered, can I at least call her an expasperating shithead? I fucking hate her 'quirky' 'wide-eyed innocent' 'ditz' schtick.

Um, EXASPERATING.

Does no one remember Sunny Successor's pithy comment that started the Truth Bombs thread? Really?

dayo's post was a joking reference to that exact post/meme!!

Is "would drown" a thing? Ugh, people are just so gross, and on Emsk's beautiful Welsh thread, as well.

SS's pithy quote was something like "when a guy calls a girl annoying, that's guy-speak for 'I want to fuck that chick' which is an instant break-up in my book."

So whenever I see a guy call a chick "annoying" I just think about that quote and laugh my head off. It renders a lot of ridiculous hate-threads much more interesting that way.

dayo's post was a joking reference to that exact post/meme!!

I did not know that "would drown" was even a thing! I had no idea what it was doing ~on this thread~ when i wanted Welsh villages lost beneath the sea!

FT, where you may have taken a wrong turn is in assuming that the detection of annoying properties in a person is tatamount to dismissing that person, as if they possess no further qualities worth noticing.

I find a grown woman who wears a tiara, however pretty she may be, to be annoying for however long as that tiara is in place. I can't help it. I feel the same way about men who do not ride horses, but who wear leather chaps. otoh, for all I know, they might both be very kind to stray cats and be capable of calculating how to divide the tip among a large group of people on a shared restaurant check.

Is "would drown" a thing? it's a few fathoms deeper then jsut would drown

I NEVER SAID THAT FINDING A WOMAN ANNOYING WAS DISMISSING!!! I IMPLIED THAT FINDING A WOMAN ANNOYING MEANS YOU WANT TO FUCK HER!!!!!

The place where I took the wrong turn was not knowing that "would drown" is a thing in this world ILX!

Oh wait, I have reread my phrasing. I kinda did. hahahahahhahahaa

er. yeah. good catch.

This is what happens when you're trying to follow three conversations at once.

PLEASE for the love of god, can we have some drowned Welsh villages now? Please?

FT,

zooey is so annoying amirite

― nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Friday, December 30, 2011 11:14 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

*gets annoyed furiously*

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this was a reference to sunny's t-bomb! I believe the follow-up post was to. I have referenced sunny's t-bomb many times before on ILX because it is very true.

drowning = a thread on ILX called 'battle of the doe-eyed, raven-haired sirens with irises like shimmering river water that i want to drown in '08' that whiney started

Ugh, I never thought I would say this about anyone but jesus h christ, whiney should be drowned like a Welsh Village, and never brought back up.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/cy/c/ca/Cofiwch_Tryweryn.jpg

Thanks for explaining, I'm feeling proper stupid now. Heh.

the 'drowning' = 'fucking' meme never lodged in me. i am hopeless at ilx memery

Here is a Welsh village they didn't quite manage to drown.

http://static.laterooms.com/hotelphotos/laterooms/73592/gallery/lake-vyrnwy-classic-hotel-llanwddyn-nr-oswestry_030320091941214173.jpg

Whiney, tied to a bag of menhirs, thrown off this tower, would be too good for him.

(p.s. I may have a substantial amount of single malt Jura whisky in me at this point, so I should probably get off th'internet before getting even stupider.)

Haha, wait, so the whole drowning thing became a meme simply because of ambiguous grammar? Excellent work, guys.

haha no I think in the actual post he is quite explicit about wanting to drown them

no, emily's right.

FT has reached the Jurassic tipsying point?

Drowned villages on the Jurassic Coast in Devon, no less!

http://www.southwestcoastpath.org.uk/img/gammonheadlg.jpg

(I am trying to find the Cornish drowned village in Mounts Bay but it is not happening yet. Stupid whisky.)

What a great exhibition/site! I love the name Neversink for a drowned village, don't care if the etymology is different, it's still wonderful.

There was a submerged town near where my Dad used to live in California, and when we visited, the reservoir was so low that we could see bits of it sticking out and the roads going in, but I can't for the life of me remember where it is. (And my Dad's photography website is so poorly organised that I can never find any photos I'm looking for - jeez, either code some keywords or get one Flickr, Dad.)

There is apparently now Cornish Whisky (!!!!!!) but it's stupidly expensive.

yeah my dad mentioned this at Christmas, also he brought us some Cornish red wine which is like 17% and sort of pleasant but not in a way comparable to a real red wine

Eh, I dunno, Cornish wine is pretty canonical, they were certainly producing wine during the Roman occupation but then again, I think the climate was even milder then. I had drunk Cornish wine, but it was at a restaurant, I recall it being fairly nice, actually.

The idea of introducing (or reintroducing as the case may be- yes, yes, whisky was brought to Cornwall from Ireland by St Piran when he surfed over on a millstone, introducing both Catholicism and surfing to the counry at the same time) Dowr Toemm into Cornwall just strikes me as a supremely bad idea because the Cornish after Methodism made them give up drinking = inventing steam engines, amazing mine technology, building fantastical feats of engineering, sticking Wheals atop impossible chasms, etc. etc. while the Cornish plus Whisky = fish fights and brawling with the English.

But that's going to degenerate into another argument about ~racist stereotypes of "The Celts"~ with Tom D and Darraghmac.

Anyway, Cornish ZOIDER and Cornish mead is where it's at in terms of Cornish bouze gourmandising. Also ridiculous Skinners Ales of which I have never had a bad one.

None of this has anything to do with drowned villages but the unique combination of BOUZE and racist stereotypes of the British Isles is always a popular diversion on ILX. I should just give up and make an "I miss Cornwall so badly" thread and be done with it.

also he brought us some Cornish red wine which is like 17% and sort of pleasant but not in a way comparable to a real red wine

― Extreme Lifestyle, Saturday, December 31, 2011 11:33 AM (5 hours ago)

if it's over ~15.5% then it's fortified like port or madeira etc

good point - was labelled as a red wine tho so *shrug*

I am drinking a http://www.onlinebeerfestival.co.uk/acatalog/cornish_knocker.jpg atm, it is pretty decent and upholds their grand tradition of stupid labels for clowning aesthetes

Aye, that one is good indeed, but if you can find a http://www.skinnersbrewery.com/uploaded_images/ginger_tosser_clip.png <-- that is absolutely my favourite of them, bcuz I love a honeyed ale.