The term is sort of malleable though, isn't it? As in, it can be used to run down any music you don't like by criticising the process behind its creation (or something).
― Norman Phay (Pashmina), Monday, 27 November 2006 11:51 (seventeen years ago) link
I think the important paragraph is:
This is as opposed to the notion of manufactured "pop" music, created in assembly line fashion by teams of hired record producers and technicians and performed by pop stars who have little input into the creative process, designed to appeal to a mass market and make profits rather than express authentic sentiments
Because this is, word for word, the kind of crap that Bumlove routinely comes out with about the music that I love.
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Norman Phay (Pashmina), Monday, 27 November 2006 11:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 27 November 2006 12:09 (seventeen years ago) link
OK, yeah, I'm making snide comments on messageboards in response but you know what? I *wrote* and recorded Stronger, I know what instruments are used on it. The only thing he's ever written are snide comments on message boards.
Anyway, I'm sick of this twat. I want pointy nosed boys.
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 12:13 (seventeen years ago) link
Look at the point on that nose:
http://myspace-606.vo.llnwd.net/00954/60/62/954672606_l.jpg
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 12:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 12:33 (seventeen years ago) link
Don't pay any attention to record company twit. I guess it's tiresome having to put up with that shit, but the music speaks for itself, I think.
Is your guitar bag a special Jazzmaster size? I'm gonna get a hard case for mine I think. (Only 4 weeks till I actually **get my hands on** my Jazzy!).
― Dr.C, Monday, 27 November 2006 12:42 (seventeen years ago) link
No, actually I was using an old bass guitarbag for my Jazzmaster - they're longer than most guitars so don't fit in the flight case I already had. Bah. I might go out at lunch and get a new bag if I can. Depends on how much they are. Also I need to get a new strap.
The peg that holds the strap on the Danny has gone, and I replaced it with a giant-headed screw, so I need to get a longer strap - and am probably going to have to tape it to the body so it doesn't pop out mid-performance. Which would be embarrassing.
I honestly believe music *should* speak for itself. And it does. But you're always going to get some twat who doesn't "get it" sticking his oar in and telling people What To Think like he's Alaistair Cooke (when really he's just the poor man's Tony Wilson). I don't think music fans need that - or if they do, go and read the sodding NME.
Whatever. Anything he does is going to irritate me, it's just worse when he gets things totally factually WRONG and then sticks my name in it.
What kind of a strap should I get?
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link
::looks at pointy nose::
::calms down::
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link
this is up for sale less than 2 miles from our house. I wish I was better off! It's perfect.
― Norman Phay (Pashmina), Monday, 27 November 2006 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link
yeah, DiS, which is like... I don't actually care, I don't expect anyone there to "get it". It's just like... freaking Leave Off, already, you know? He left a snarky comment on the band's MySpace a few weeks ago, which I deleted. Now he feels he has to step it up again?
And my bandmates are all "oh, well, you bitched about him on your blog, you don't have a leg to stand on" - but it's like. I *STOPPED* because everyone was giving me such shit about it. And now he's starting back up again.
If it's wrong for me to do it, it's wrong for *him* to do it, but he just seems to get a free pass to do and say what he likes, and no one calls *him* on it. I've dealt with his sort before. I know that the thing to do is just to ignore him, because even slagging him off is giving him the attention that he craves.
It just winds me up and I wish it wouldn't.
God, how can a boy have such *amazingly* thick eyelashes? It just isn't fair. He's got those slighly cat-like Rimbaud eyes, all heavy-lidded and smutty.
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― mitya in st. louis - not!, Monday, 27 November 2006 13:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sir Gregory of St.Kitts (g-kit), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― ken c, Monday, 27 November 2006 13:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sir Gregory of St.Kitts (g-kit), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:19 (seventeen years ago) link
(And maybe if I ask enough, all the boys of ILX will post pictures of their eyelashes.)
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:20 (seventeen years ago) link
The NME cool list this year!!!
OK, I have never cared about the cool list in my life, and I haven't even bought the NME in abou 5 years, but...
Did anyone notice something REALLY UNUSUAL about the Top 10 this year?
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:31 (seventeen years ago) link
Don't read NME.
― Sir Gregory of St.Kitts (g-kit), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:31 (seventeen years ago) link
1 Beth Ditto (The Gossip) 2 Faris Rotter (The Horrors) 3 Lily Allen 4 Jarvis Cocker 5 Karen O (Yeah Yeah Yeahs) 6 Kieren Webster (The View) 7 Kate Jackson (The Long Blondes) 8 Gerard Way (My Chemical Romance) 9 Thom Yorke (Radiohead) 10 Lovefoxxx (CSS)
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sir Gregory of St.Kitts (g-kit), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― End-of-Termistan, Monday, 27 November 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sir Gregory of St.Kitts (g-kit), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eye Police, Monday, 27 November 2006 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link
Yes, Gooblar, hole in one! NME is noticing that the world is actually half female shockah!
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Porridge Central, Monday, 27 November 2006 13:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sir Gregory of St.Kitts (g-kit), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Winging It On Home, Monday, 27 November 2006 13:43 (seventeen years ago) link
Get them to make up their own fake societies of imaginary lands, based on satire of the predominating cultural trends of today. I think that would make them realise the snide wit in Swift.
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Worst. Teacher. Ever., Monday, 27 November 2006 13:46 (seventeen years ago) link
Aye, then the editor made an arse of it by spouting some crap about "you can still rock a crowd wearing stilletos" and dropped the cover that was supposed to feature the 5 women in the top ten in favour of Muse.
Lily Allen has a wee go at NME
― nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Monday, 27 November 2006 14:00 (seventeen years ago) link
And garg, is that true, Onimo? Oh god, that is just so depressing. I bought the thing because of the tiny picture of the three women made me open up and see if the list was any good. And then they go and blow it all, with that kind of crap?
I wish I hadn't bought the thing now.
I sentence Conor to spend the next five years trying to even walk wearing stilettoes. And getting about a dozen of them jacked up his sexist arse.
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link
First one I went in, the gang of about three lads hanging around the door (some of whom worked there) didn't even move to let me in the shop. OK, you're not getting my money.
Second shop, the bloke on the desk is helping someone else, so I kinda hang around looking at guitar straps and stuff until he's nearly done. I go and stand by the desk, very obviously waiting to be served - oh, except for the fact I'm female. Another customer comes up, pushes by me (not even an excuse me) - I let him go as I'm assuming he's heading out the door, but no. He pushes ahead of me and starts asking the bloke on the desk about harmonicas. Like I'm not even there. I felt like cracking him in the head with a guitar going EXCUSE ME BUT I WAS HERE FIRST!!!
He goes to look at the harmonicas, but dude on the desk is just staring off into space - despite the fact I'm standing there waiting to be served. I had to go and ask someone else to help me. I should really have walked out of the shop and kept going to different shops and only paid my money at a shop that acknowledged females, but you know, it was lunchtime and I did need to get back to my office before the hour was up.
This shit is just so depressing. :-(
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link
It was discussed on the ILM "Worst NME cover" thread just before ILM died (here's a cached copy of the thread)
― nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Monday, 27 November 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― last minute mitya, Monday, 27 November 2006 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link
Ugh, I feel just... unclean any time I read an ILM thread like that.
― masonic boom (kate), Monday, 27 November 2006 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sir Gregory of St.Kitts (g-kit), Monday, 27 November 2006 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link
In 1993 Riot Grrrrls did a glass ceiling chart emphasising this point and one of us (me) was ticked off by the person who was the NME features editor (male) of the time because "what about RACISM?" Oh FFS. I think I told him if he was so bothered about racism he should find a way to give more work to a certain writer in their office about music other than hip-hop.
There is an irony in there somewhere, considering who the features ed was...
― temporary suzy, Monday, 27 November 2006 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link