open ended fundraising pls
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
I will definitely donate to the cause when necessary. I has a jobz now!
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
Is the DB plate inevitably going to get too big to keep spinning on a stick?
― William (C), Monday, 5 December 2011 21:25 (twelve years ago) link
Apols for asking that in a dumb way
great work, thx much stet!
― slandblox goole, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
presumably this kinda space will be cheaper in the future?
― iatee, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
WmC, I think that was the perfect way to ask.
― Making like Melusine (Pyth), Monday, 5 December 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
whatever price he asks, we shall pay
― dayo, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
apprec your work, stet.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
Wmc: We're being outrun by falling prices for now, but there are other complications -- the bigger it gets the more unwieldy it gets too. Running backups was more of a pain than it needed to be on the old server, for instance.
(In database terms, it's not that huge -- there are databases of hundreds of GBs and more happily chuntering along. Those tend to have more dedicated stewards and need care and watering, tho.)
― stet, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks, stet. Sorry for being crochety on the other thread. Really been missing/needing ILM of late.
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
― Making like Melusine (Pyth), Monday, December 5, 2011 3:27 PM (9 minutes ago)
heh, thanks. I keep thinking "would it be possible to reduce the load on the DB by making the first several years of it read-only and sending it off to live quietly with relatives or something?" but really, there's too much value in revisiting and reviving old threads. And having it accessible to read doesn't reduce the load anywhere, I guess. It's like having to lug around a copy of The Riverside Shakespeare all the time instead of just the one play you're reading at the time.
― William (C), Monday, 5 December 2011 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
Amazon seems like a pretty sound option IMO
― Ed, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not gonna read all that cause it's long and I'm trying to leave work but I'm happy to donate and thank you stet for your hard work. Also, the sandbox is pretty good for the time being imo.
― ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ (~curious orange~), Monday, 5 December 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks stet for handling this, much appreciated.
xp Amazon option seconded.
― yes this is the real (snoball), Monday, 5 December 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
+1 Amazon. I can't help in any meaningful way other than by injecting funds. William (C), you should buy a Kindle.
― (^_^) (^_^) (^_^), Monday, 5 December 2011 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
"would it be possible to reduce the load on the DB by making the first several years of it read-only and sending it off to live quietly with relatives or something?" but really, there's too much value in revisiting and reviving old threads.
I have been thinking similar things myself. The quick and easy thing to do is make everything that hasn't been updated in say a year just a read-only HTML thread. That'd be super-easy to serve, and we could do it from a tiny server like this one.
But it's also a bit crap -- wouldn't be properly integrated with search, and you couldn't just bump an old thread. I'm trying to see if there isn't something cleverer we could do that would fix those problems -- perhaps the threads live in cold storage as static HTML and then if someone tries to bump one we "defrost" it and insert all its posts into the DB again? Can foresee problems doing that, too.
Either way, by far the simplest option for the immediate future given funding (eg at least another 2/3 years the way things have been going) is just to get a bit more memory.
― stet, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
I can live with the sandbox for a while. As an example of Amazon EC2 performance it's pretty impressive.
― yes this is the real (snoball), Monday, 5 December 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
^^ yeah, definitely
would our existing host folks be willing to allow us to spin up another sandbox using their virtual solution so we can compare performance?
― OH NOES, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
ah, got it -- those were the same questions and reservations I had from a layman's perspective -- just wasn't sure if I was asking the right questions or the programming equivalent of "can we turn this block of solid granite inside out?"
xp to stet
― William (C), Monday, 5 December 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
is sb extra
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Monday, 5 December 2011 21:19 (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
this, this should be like carbon tax, we should get a credit & have to buy more
good work stet!, let us know when you need $$$. when your head explodes from the continuous effort dedicated to server maintenance &c we will chip in for replacement parts for that, also
― Never translate German (schlump), Monday, 5 December 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link
That's probably not a bad idea to ask about. I would guess they'd want to put the existing server out of its misery before they do that though, and I want to keep it zombieing on until I have a live running copy of proper ILX on another server.
(I have a copy running on my Mac, and the DB all checks out, but it's not quite the same)
xp thanks everybody btw <3 u all
― stet, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link
I am in favor of a sb tax - we would never need a funding drive
― dayo, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
frogbs would keep ilx running for 100 years
stet, there is one way I might be able to help depending on (a) how you go about doing what you intend to go about doing and (b) how busy I am when you get to that point. Bung me an email if you so desire.
― (^_^) (^_^) (^_^), Monday, 5 December 2011 22:08 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, adding to the thank-yous to stet for service above and beyond!
― William (C), Monday, 5 December 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
I want to volunteer to help but this is about to become silly crazy busy season for me and I don't want to be the flake who backs out
― OH NOES, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link
can't believe you're already flaking dan. sorry everyone - it seems like the orphans won't get into their new home in time for christmas after all.
― Never translate German (schlump), Monday, 5 December 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
so unthoughtful, jeez
― dayo, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link
awesome, adding my thanks here, and hopefully some $ at some point.
― nuhnuhnuh, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link
hey stet, thanks for all yr work!
― your voice of treason, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw i support using amazon too, best to use the futuristic hosting styles since we r a cutting edge community after all
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
can't believe dan is being such a huge jerk about this
― river wolf, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
― your voice of treason, Monday, December 5, 2011 5:23 PM (15 minutes ago)
echoing frogbs here, thanks stet
― k3vin k., Monday, 5 December 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
dan needs to take some time off and think abt his priorities
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
xpost
http://i.imgur.com/xsUWy.gif
― your voice of treason, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
\(^o^)/
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
― your voice of treason, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
Thank you, stet! I have no skills to contribute but would love the opportunity to throw money at the problem.
― thejenny, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
btw in case I sounded too much like a huge wanker I was offering to develop the sort of supporting documents that would be megaboring for an ilx thread.
― (^_^) (^_^) (^_^), Monday, 5 December 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link
ditch the db, keep the sb
― cccccc, Monday, 5 December 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link
GOOGLE ADS HAVE WE TREID GOGGLE ADS
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Monday, 5 December 2011 23:31 (twelve years ago) link
Amazon affiliate setup where every word on ILX is a link to a product.
― milo z, Monday, 5 December 2011 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
loll yes
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 5 December 2011 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
i know this comes up a lot but ads for unregistered posters and posters i dont like would get help us pay for a more expensive server if we needed it
― judith, Monday, 5 December 2011 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
sbxp
― Never translate German (schlump), Monday, 5 December 2011 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
Given that the annual fund drive is always oversubscribed, do we really need to look into novel solutions?
― sean doily, Monday, 5 December 2011 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
Stet, you are awesome.
― ailsa, Monday, 5 December 2011 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
catching up now but thx stet you are a prince
― cad, Monday, 5 December 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
Charge people $5 every time they change their display name.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 00:29 (twelve years ago) link
as a hilarious behavioural experiement can we try an 'essential ilx' where people only try to post things that are worthwhile and important
― Never translate German (schlump), Friday, 23 December 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
^ lol
^rite
― Never translate German (schlump), Friday, 23 December 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
well one was nominations thread for metal poll
― Anyone need a (Jimmy Riddle), Friday, 23 December 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― HOOS aka driver of steen, Friday, 23 December 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6pLn_rF4_c
― PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Saturday, 24 December 2011 02:22 (twelve years ago) link
― Never translate German (schlump), Friday, 23 December 2011 18:29 (Yesterday) Bookmark Permalink
ilf reduced to the gareth bale v. theo walcott threadilm reduced to rolling gun sounds and rolling r&b thread and maybe something metal and steely danile just that thread about trucker hats on couches and any thread surmounter ever started
― big popppa hoy, Saturday, 24 December 2011 09:14 (twelve years ago) link
just let me know if we won't be back by the Oscars
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
^^ itchy thread-trigger finger
― Aimless, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link
i seriously miss ilxor
― Bee, Friday, 30 December 2011 06:03 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't even know there was a Miss Ilxor contest!
― God is great. God is good. And people are crazy. Amen. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 30 December 2011 06:12 (twelve years ago) link
We're gonna bring a case of wine Hey, let's go mess and fool around You know, like we used to
― Bee, Friday, 30 December 2011 06:43 (twelve years ago) link
thanks for everything stet
my new year resolution is: i want my ilx
― Bee, Saturday, 31 December 2011 07:44 (twelve years ago) link
+1
Thanks for everything.
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 1 January 2012 05:59 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks for getting ILX up again before the Oz Open tennis, and for all your hard work generally.
Will all the old threads from the old site ever be accessible? Sorry if this ? has already come up....
― Fred Nerk, Sunday, 1 January 2012 10:31 (twelve years ago) link
They are OK, they are in cryogenic freeze next to Ted Williams's head
― I'm in the sandbox with the tombstone HOOS (James Redd), Sunday, 1 January 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
Have tweaked this and fiddled that and turned on ILX again. It looks a lot healthier this time, so here's hoping. If it conks again, will need to get the big guns in.
― stet, Sunday, 1 January 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link
Sweeet, so far so good. Thanks, stet!
― William (C), Sunday, 1 January 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
Dumb question, but how do I set zing back to ilx (not sandbox)?
― remy bean in exile, Sunday, 1 January 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
Just change the instance setting to "ILX"
― stet, Sunday, 1 January 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
ilxor.com is still redirecting to the sandbox btw. direct link http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/index.jsp
― caek, Monday, 2 January 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link
Yes -- want to keep it that way. I want to add load back slowly so I can be sure it's working. Right now it seems OK, and has been up longer than any previous attempt, but it's a quiet time generally.
― stet, Monday, 2 January 2012 00:19 (twelve years ago) link
ok cool.
got a tomcat error (which i didn't save sorry) when i logged in, but i manually visited /ILX after that and i was logged in ok.
― caek, Monday, 2 January 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
I never reset zing to sandbox for that very reason
― I'm in the sandbox with the tombstone HOOS (James Redd), Monday, 2 January 2012 01:47 (twelve years ago) link
Also had trouble over there posting from zing for some unknown reason
― I'm in the sandbox with the tombstone HOOS (James Redd), Monday, 2 January 2012 01:48 (twelve years ago) link
It Is A Mystery
― I'm in the sandbox with the tombstone HOOS (James Redd), Monday, 2 January 2012 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
OK, problem was I had logged myself off fooling around with the settings.
― I'm in the sandbox with the tombstone HOOS (James Redd), Monday, 2 January 2012 02:11 (twelve years ago) link
THANK YOU!
― Bee, Monday, 2 January 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link
are we back now?
― Dranke, the German Drake Impersonator (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 January 2012 04:19 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/
― clay, Monday, 2 January 2012 04:22 (twelve years ago) link
YES
― Bee, Monday, 2 January 2012 04:24 (twelve years ago) link
so old skool ilx is kinda slow right now?
― Dranke, the German Drake Impersonator (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 January 2012 05:09 (twelve years ago) link
seems fine to me
― iatee, Monday, 2 January 2012 05:10 (twelve years ago) link
Slow for me too -- 3-4 seconds for SNA page load. But it's better than it was a couple of hours ago.
― William (C), Monday, 2 January 2012 05:18 (twelve years ago) link
As soon as I say that, now it's loading instantly.
yah its been intermittently slow for me
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, 2 January 2012 05:19 (twelve years ago) link
slow for me,as has sandbox
― Anyone need a (Jimmy Riddle), Monday, 2 January 2012 05:19 (twelve years ago) link
I no longer even have a working login for "real" ILX - can someone who's managed to log in pls be a dear and tell me if it's still got SB before I bother going to the trouble of reregistering? I've enjoyed it here but I'm not going back to that stress.
― Kurun a Spern (Fotherington Thomas), Monday, 2 January 2012 09:30 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, the new ILX does seem to be quite slow. After I clicked "login", it took half a minute before it actually logged in.
― Tuomas, Monday, 2 January 2012 09:35 (twelve years ago) link
FT, regular ILX hasn't changed at all, and so, yes, does still have SB.
― If Villasboas was named Mike Jones and looked like a tool. (c sharp major), Monday, 2 January 2012 10:24 (twelve years ago) link
OK, thanks for letting me know.
― Kurun a Spern (Fotherington Thomas), Monday, 2 January 2012 10:26 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, prohibitively slow in both spaces now.
― Dranke, the German Drake Impersonator (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 January 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
fundraiser
― lxy, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link
fundraiser.
― sanbox (step hen faps), Thursday, 1 May 2014 13:29 (ten years ago) link