― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link
/over the top rant
― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― deep space nine, Monday, 16 October 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, I don't know what their problem is w/r/t you -- I know someone whose daughter is an out lesbian (not practicing Orthodox, obv) but her father is very scholarly, respected, visible among his peers.
Also there are definitely some very lousy things about modern Hasidic life, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH is their attitude/code of conduct for women.
― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link
I think at this point the basic sci-fi setting is so entrenched that it's not so different a starting point than here & now. Meaning, saying "okay, it's the future and there are space ships and humans living on different worlds" isn't a big deal, it's "okay, it's the future and there are space ships AND here's the hook". Although if those tropes really bother you than that's something else (I forget, have you read any Delany?).
― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link
(a lot of his writing also lacks those tropes, but that's what he came out of)
― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― bohren un der club of gear, Monday, 16 October 2006 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link
ps- hi chicago.
― grady (grady), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― JuliaA (JuliaA), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link
I think I should go for it.
― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link
ahem...
what about the other one?
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, ifyou look at the map, Berwyn in one block south, and the train stop is just on the east side of Broadway. The grocery is between the el stop and Brodaway.
― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link
if you go with the other place, you will inevitably regret it completely.
― bohren un der club of gear, Monday, 16 October 2006 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link
If it was like $300 a month less or something that might make a difference.
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:49 (eighteen years ago) link
I know. It would be nice for a change to have a place I want to stay at for more than one lease. It ain't dirt cheap or anything, but I think I can grow into it. Buy furniture and bookshelves, the whole bit.
― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:50 (eighteen years ago) link
$600, which, considering, feels like a rip-off.
― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:50 (eighteen years ago) link
Heh. But think of the Indian food!
― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― bohren un der club of gear, Monday, 16 October 2006 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― grady (grady), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Jake: How often does the train go by?Elwood: So often that you won't even notice it.
― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:06 (eighteen years ago) link
Oh god, I never want to move again until I own my own place or am dead.
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link
I am considering the trade off of size vs. location and amenities.
xpost-- that's not MY hood. The density of fags is actually a con for me. I like where I am now in that regard...fag-friendly, but not choked with them.
― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link