2012 GOP Presidential Campaign -- "This individual's going to accuse me of an affair for an extended period of time."

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"what's Gingrich's fundraising lookin like?" is a more pertinent question than "what does Rassmussen say?"

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

a poll is a story

CAN WE ALL JUST BE BLOWN UP?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

Romney ran in 2008, with almost the same electorate as today, and was soundly rejected then. That means there is a huge percentage of GOP voters who made up their minds against Romney once already. To me, that is very interesting.

What exactly has he done to fundamentally alter all those prior decisons to become favorable this time around? Seems to me, damn little.

That's why his being annointed as the inevitable winner has always seemed so odd to me. Usually, after an abject failure, the candidate must at least go through the motions of re-inventing himself - unless, of course, he is Bob Dole.

Aimless, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

Aimless- he has gone through the process of being less crazy than absolutely everyone around him, and also not having a name which means booty juices

big popppa hoy, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

Ergo, the serial stampede. It is always away from Romney, no matter where else it seems to be headed.

Aimless, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

romney's real pitch is to look to his left, look to his right on the GOP debate dias, then turn to the voters and say, "oh, you can't vote for any of these guys, you know this."

if gingrich can prevent romney from doing that, gingrich has a really good chance. but that remains to be seen, as gingrich can also be a clown.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

If Boehner really hates Gingrich as much as that article suggests, then one interesting what-if game concerns how Gingrich becoming the front-runner might change the calculus among House Republicans - i.e., between playing ball with Obama on economic stimulus, and thereby helping their own re-election prospects, vs. stonewalling the stimulus and thereby helping the prospective nominee but opening themselves up to criticism in the fall. Maybe it's just coincidence, but Boehner is suddenly sounding more reasonable about the possibility of a payroll cut.

o. nate, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

It's worked wonderfully in my marriage

Great way to squelch the rumors that your husband's gay.

M. White, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

Boehner and Obama would have negotiated long ago if not for the Tea Party; he worries about his votes back home.

Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

The more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to think that the party elite will suggest to the wingnuts that Newt is NOT a good pick or, that failing, will smear the heck out of him.

M. White, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

but it's been happening already!

Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

and to every not-Romney

Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

the key is largely timing. newt is the last not-romney. it's newt or nothing.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

(cue rick santorum weeping silently)

Aimless, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

Huntsman must be FURIOUS behind closed doors, lol

OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

he is angrily listening to "Frownland" RIGHT NOW

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

It's not really a matter of the Party Elite, such as it is, suggesting things to the base, which won't listen to it anyway. All the satraps can do is withhold funding and watch as the unprepared, oafish Bachmanns, Perrys, Cains, and Gingrichs demonstrate their unworthiness for the nomination.

Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

bite your tounge rick santorum never weeps he cries lightning and spits broken-glass

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

gingrich is less likely to totally screw-up.

he could -- he is, after all, a clown -- but he's the kind of clown that's appealed to the GOP base for a while now, and this particular GOP base is even more receptive to his reactionary vibe. and he is not mitt romney, so he has that going for him, too.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

You guys are stuck with Romney.

Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

did you renounce your citizenship or something?

dr. strongo, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know why I misread "reactionary vibe" so badly

OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

I guess that would be more appropriate for Santorum

OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

You guys are stuck with Romney.

i am stuck with romney, and romney's stuck with me

(sung to the tune of the band-aid brand commercial)

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

did you renounce your citizenship or something?

― dr. strongo, Thursday, December 1, 2011 4:08 PM

there are by my count 247 members of the Politico editorial staff that are Communists.

Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

Re: Huntsman. Seems so odd to me that a former governor of fucking UTAH is seen as such a liberal wuss by the Tea Party wingnuts.

Aimless, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

now, THIS IS MORE LIKE IT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7kog1CjzcY&feature=player_embedded

please note, DNC and GOP rivals: this is how to attack mitt romney.

and there is so -- so -- much more.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

I love how that interview takes place in a warehouse, like they're about to unpack some crates or make a drug deal or something

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

are they sitting in the middle of a costco

mayor jingleberriez, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

it isn't a warehouse. it's mitt romney's secret chamber, where they keep his magic sarcophagus.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

Meanwhile one last one from that Other McCain dude in terms of self-regard:

http://theothermccain.com/2011/12/01/ace-of-spades-really-hates-ron-paul-endorses-re-election-of-barack-obama/

And back to the usual fun.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

feasting nightly on the blood of hourly laborers

dr. strongo, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

xpost...i think.

dr. strongo, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

Is Huntsman hampered by being LDS, too? There's a lot of ambiguity about them in this country.

M. White, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

You guys are stuck with Obamney.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

Huntsman is more hampered by most ppl not knowing anything about him

OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

OH A UNITY-TICKET GOOD IDEA.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

I'm sure being LDS doesn't help Huntsman. Since being LDS is considered one of Romney's liabilities, it doesn't help you position yourself as a not-Romney if you have the same liability. But I don't think a non-LDS Huntsman would have done appreciably better, all else being equal. I just think that running as the most moderate Republican was not a winning strategy this year.

o. nate, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

He's not really a moderate, the rest of them are just plain loony.

M. White, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

"Because when I tendered my resignation, nobody asked me to stay."

slandblox goole, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

Paul goes after Gingrich, Huntsman goes after Romney--do Romney and Gingrich plan to go after each other at any point? (I know I should recognize the acronym, but what is LDS?)

clemenza, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

Latter Day Saints, aka Mormon

OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

so much drama in the LDS

upper mississippi 2: still shakin, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

I just think that running as the most moderate Republican was not a winning strategy this year.

I also think that his refusal to pander to the extremes infuriates the small sense of empowerment the tea partiers feel they've wrested from the Party.

M. White, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

i want to thank m. white for the xpost that prevented me from continuing on custos-style with matt's joke

dr. strongo, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

sorry

M. White, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

no, you saved us all

dr. strongo, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

Otoh, the psychology of Mormon vampires kind of cracks me up.

M. White, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

I also think that his refusal to pander to the extremes infuriates the small sense of empowerment the tea partiers feel they've wrested from the Party.

Yeah, the non-Tea-Party vote has been sewn up by Romney, and Huntsman has never even tried to court the Tea Party vote.

o. nate, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

"what's Gingrich's fundraising lookin like?" is a more pertinent question than "what does Rassmussen say?"

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, December 1, 2011 8:23 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink

McCain had no money and then he won a couple primaries and it flew in. If Newt's lead in Iowa and Florida holds up you'll see the money come in fast.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link


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