And they didn't really chase him out anyway, he resigned on his own. Maybe they didn't want him as speaker any more, but it was his own choice to leave the House. Whatever enemies he made among fellow Republicans in those days are probably not in a position of influence to impede his progress today.
These people would disagree.
― Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
One point Sullivan keeps making--I have no idea if this is true--is that Rasmussen polls are narrowly reliable when trying to figure out what Republicans are thinking.
― clemenza, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
And then you've got:
http://conservatives4palin.com/2011/11/resist-we-much-%E2%80%A6-mr-gingrich-for-he%E2%80%99s-character-assassination-for-conservatism.html
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
Rasmussen leans right, yeah.
― Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
And back and forth and...
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2011/11/30/latest-gingrich-oppo-dump/
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/284569/if-newt-criticism-makes-one-rino-i-guess-steyn-too
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2011/12/01/on-newt-and-gnomes/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
I'll check in on Palin's Facebook page now and again. Her true believers are understandably befuddled and distraught at the moment.
― clemenza, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
Whatever enemies he made among fellow Republicans in those days are probably not in a position of influence to impede his progress today.
lol you mean like Dick Armey? who bankrolls the Tea Party and hates Gingrich's guts?
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
The term “gnome” wasn’t directed at Jim, no matter how short he may be
lol
― OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
actually I dunno how Armey feels about Gingrich these days, maybe it's all water under the bridge
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
also lol nobody resigns on their own from an elected position. they resign because the alternatives are worse.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
I could point you to the NRO debate about whether Gingrich and Billy shared an Irish whiskey by themselves; Armey is involved somehow.
― Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
The confusion and internecine shivings on the right are making me rub my hands in glee.
― M. White, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
the very IDEA of two pols sharing a drink, like their claques always said Tip and Ronnie did.
― Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
McCain divorced his wife while she was recovering from a bad car accident, didn't he? And that didn't stop him from securing the nomination last time.
actually lol there are several parallels between mccain '08 lol and gingrich '11 lol.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
lol romney getting passed on the racetrack by a 120 year-old lol
Dick Armey told me Newt and Bill Clinton had had secret meetings at which they talked about their girlfriends.
― M. White, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
Those guys stick around for longer than you'd think. Apparently Boehner and Gingrich have some history too:
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/195427-lawmakers-not-flocking-to-gingrich
― o. nate, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
“He’s a guy of 1,000 ideas, and the attention span of a 1-year-old,”
― M. White, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
LOLGOP -- Michele Bachmann: "I will immediately reinstate Don't Ask, Don't Tell. It's worked wonderfully in my marriage."______________________LOLGOP -- RT @Lizardoid: Bachmann is not opposed to gay people marrying, as long as the marriage is a loveless sham
LOLGOP -- RT @Lizardoid: Bachmann is not opposed to gay people marrying, as long as the marriage is a loveless sham
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
okay that isn't a real Bachmann quote is it
because if it is I might explode from lols
― OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
sadly, it isn't.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
nah, lolgop is all fake...but hilarious.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
but it could be bachmann!
she says some crazy stuff!
I'm not sure that anyone cares too much what some old Republican Congressmen think of Newt though - if anyone lacks credibility in today's political climate, it's Congress. It's more important what someone like Roger Ailes thinks:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1211/Foxs_temptation_Newt.html
― o. nate, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
thehill articles are interesting:
In contrast, Mitt Romney, another front-runner for the GOP nomination, has announced several Republican congressional endorsements in recent days, including Sens. John Thune (S.D.) and Kelly Ayotte (N.H.) and Rep. Charlie Bass (N.H.).
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/196441-newts-hand-always-six-inches-from-the-self-destruct-button
There’s some evidence that Romney’s campaign might be getting nervous — it pressed Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), who represents Iowa’s neighbor to the west, to announce his endorsement early. Thune said he was thinking about waiting until closer to the caucuses.
Thune, who served with Gingrich in the House in 1997 and 1998, said his endorsement of Romney was not a statement against the former Speaker.
“It wasn’t like I was deciding against anybody, I just decided for Romney,” Thune said. “My view was that at certain times in the nation’s history you need certain styles of leadership. Right now we need somebody who knows what it’s like to turn failing enterprises around. Romney’s done that in business, he did that with the Olympics.”
― slandblox goole, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
do the ppl who are all "let's run the US like a business" realize that we can't just deport our unemployed citizens or are they just completely unaware of how most businesses are turned around/saved?
― OH NOES, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
ah yes the failing business of the Olympics
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
all federal gov't work will be outsourced to Bangalore
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
Ask Florida how that Rick Scott thing is working out for them.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
we love our governor stop being mean
http://valdoespolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/rick-scott-omg.jpg
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
I left Florida four months ago and he still haunts my dreams.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
jesus christ, Halloween was two calendar pages ago, cut that out
― William (C), Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
I thought Marc Rubio was in charge of Florida who's this Rick Scott clown
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
The governor.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
Rubio is the junior senator.
I know just makin a lil joke
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
This is such a runaway story right now, maybe it really is about to come crashing down.
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/12/romneys-rasmussen-gap-ctd.html
― clemenza, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
well, either the story or romney will crash down, it seems.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
"what's Gingrich's fundraising lookin like?" is a more pertinent question than "what does Rassmussen say?"
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
a poll is a story
CAN WE ALL JUST BE BLOWN UP?
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
Romney ran in 2008, with almost the same electorate as today, and was soundly rejected then. That means there is a huge percentage of GOP voters who made up their minds against Romney once already. To me, that is very interesting.
What exactly has he done to fundamentally alter all those prior decisons to become favorable this time around? Seems to me, damn little.
That's why his being annointed as the inevitable winner has always seemed so odd to me. Usually, after an abject failure, the candidate must at least go through the motions of re-inventing himself - unless, of course, he is Bob Dole.
― Aimless, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
Aimless- he has gone through the process of being less crazy than absolutely everyone around him, and also not having a name which means booty juices
― big popppa hoy, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
Ergo, the serial stampede. It is always away from Romney, no matter where else it seems to be headed.
― Aimless, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
romney's real pitch is to look to his left, look to his right on the GOP debate dias, then turn to the voters and say, "oh, you can't vote for any of these guys, you know this."
if gingrich can prevent romney from doing that, gingrich has a really good chance. but that remains to be seen, as gingrich can also be a clown.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
If Boehner really hates Gingrich as much as that article suggests, then one interesting what-if game concerns how Gingrich becoming the front-runner might change the calculus among House Republicans - i.e., between playing ball with Obama on economic stimulus, and thereby helping their own re-election prospects, vs. stonewalling the stimulus and thereby helping the prospective nominee but opening themselves up to criticism in the fall. Maybe it's just coincidence, but Boehner is suddenly sounding more reasonable about the possibility of a payroll cut.
― o. nate, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
It's worked wonderfully in my marriage
Great way to squelch the rumors that your husband's gay.
― M. White, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
Boehner and Obama would have negotiated long ago if not for the Tea Party; he worries about his votes back home.
― Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
The more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to think that the party elite will suggest to the wingnuts that Newt is NOT a good pick or, that failing, will smear the heck out of him.
― M. White, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
but it's been happening already!
― Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 December 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
and to every not-Romney