chris is right about lucas
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 1 December 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
btw, pandemic, re. 'let's not be hasty' - i don't know if that was a direct response to me (no problem if it was), but i just wanna say that i didn't mean my comment to sound as if i was theorising about what may or may not have been the cause, if that's how it came across - i probably should have worded it better. just pointing out that i can completely understand how shit can happen despite everything appearing to be fine - if that makes sense. it's really not for me to say why it happened, and i hope i didn't come across as if i know it all. it's just incredibly sad isn't it.
― Chris, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
Peter Reid was 4th in the Fifa World Soccer player of the year award 1985 behind only Michel Platini, Preban Elkjaer & Diego Maradona.
― onimo, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
Also Dalglish hasn't been feeding Lucas properly and hasn't cleaned out the newspaper in his hutch for weeks.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
Full name Foluwashola AmeobiDate of birth 12 October 1981 (age 30)[1]Place of birth Zaria, NigeriaHeight 1.88 m (6 ft 2 in) [2]Playing position StrikerClub informationCurrent club Newcastle UnitedNumber 23Youth career1995–2000 Newcastle UnitedSenior career*Years Team Apps† (Gls)†2000– Newcastle United 242 (250)
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
It's the complete absence of material to speculate on the cause that's the thing xps. You imagine you know a bit about people's lives because you watch them play or like their music or books or whatever, then something like this happens and you realise you don't know a thing.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 December 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
sorry chris, my 'let's be hasty' was a glib response to your entirely sensible 'there's more to life than football' comment, born out of a couple of people pointing out to me just how much time i spend watching, reading, thinking about the game etc
― pandemic, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
I agree with both Chris and Deems about Lucas really, Dalglish shouldn't have played him but the fact he felt he had to play him so much is the result of some dodgy squad-building. Stand up Mr Comolli and yr blindspot in defensive midfield.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
matt has hit upon the solution. a move for zokora in january.
― pandemic, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
ah got it, no worries mate. (xposts)
― Chris, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
Comolli and Dalglish obviously felt at the start of the season that Spearing would be a suitable stand in (I assume that Spearing is our Lucas-in-waiting - there's no-on else it could possibly be). I don't see it myself, but there you go. Could of course play without a DM, but I'm guessing that would require the defence not to drop off and to squeeze the space left by where your covering midfielder would have been, which didn't happen against Norwich (see their goal).
― Chris, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
argh, someone change the subject
― Chris, Thursday, 1 December 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
regarding Speed & depression in football, this article just popped up about an MLS/Bundesliga player & his battles with depression, it's a good read
http://www.prostamerika.com/2011/12/01/depression-in-soccer-53315/
― Cuauhtemoc Blanco, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
Really quite poignant
― M. White, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
interesting article but the way it's written makes it seem that he was dealing with personal and professional problems rather than dealing with clinical depression.
― mizzell, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, your wife leaving you with your child does not make you depressed, it makes you sad.
― jim in glasgow, Thursday, 1 December 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
I let this go by earlier, but is this for real?
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
sundland job MON's to turn down and neil lennon said 'penchant'
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
that's not the most recondite term ever uttered by a fitba manager rite?
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
it just struck me tbh
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
o'neill will probably get sunderland to 8th place finishes for the next 239 years
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
does not make you depressed, it makes you sad
When you're sad enough to repeatedly consider suicide...
― M. White, Thursday, 1 December 2011 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
considering or even committing suicide doesn't mean you are clinically depressed
― mizzell, Thursday, 1 December 2011 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
Blackburn owners Venky's hoped to use free R&B concerts to woo fans
• Venky's wanted Akon as headliners at Ewood Park• Emails reveal extravagant failed pop plans
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 December 2011 06:23 (twelve years ago) link
Hey ladies drop it downJust want to see your secret recipeDon't be shy girl go BanazaShake ya chicken like the beloved Venky
― big popppa hoy, Friday, 2 December 2011 06:41 (twelve years ago) link
I see you windin n grindin up in those spices,I kno you see me lookin' at you and you already knoI wanna eat you, you already knowI wanna eat you, you already know
― big popppa hoy, Friday, 2 December 2011 06:42 (twelve years ago) link
They won't let me have, they won't let me have, (My Venkys)They won't let me have no, they won't let me have, (No chicken)They won't let me have, they won't let me have, (My Venkys)Blackburn'll let me though no, Blackburn'll let me though
― big popppa hoy, Friday, 2 December 2011 06:44 (twelve years ago) link
I see the one, because she be that chicken! Hey!I feel you creeping on, I can taste you from my shadowWanna drive-thru in my Lamborghini GallardoMaybe go to my place and just kick it like Chris Sutton used toAnd possibly bend you over look back and watch me
[Chorus (2X):]Season that all on the floorSpice that give me some moreSeason that 'till you get soreFry that oh-oooh!I don't know how to cook.
― big popppa hoy, Friday, 2 December 2011 06:47 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/general-chat/187983-tattoo-thread-dsc00053.jpg
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 December 2011 11:46 (twelve years ago) link
u guys
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 December 2011 13:32 (twelve years ago) link
i had this idea that we should select a random* established but undernoticed EPL player and devote a thread to them, follow their career in depth kinda thing
* except they can't be /that/ random, it has to be someone aggressively average and self-effacing and a byword for ordinariness
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 December 2011 13:36 (twelve years ago) link
like?
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 2 December 2011 13:37 (twelve years ago) link
leighton baines would have been great circa 2008 when he was just an average midtable fullback with valuable cultural interests who was only ever alluded to when ppl said things like 'sounds like a town in bedfordshire', which was considered to be quite amusing back then
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 December 2011 13:38 (twelve years ago) link
it's basically got to be a fullback or defensive midfielder, stephen warnock or nigel reo-coker or something
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 December 2011 13:39 (twelve years ago) link
Anton Ferdinand
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Friday, 2 December 2011 13:40 (twelve years ago) link
'self effacing'
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 2 December 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link
Is he not? Must admit I've never taken a black bit of notice of him before.
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Friday, 2 December 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link
yah he got cleared of assault for pre-emptively....hitting someone he thought was eyeing up his £50k watch iirc
― nakhchivan, Friday, 2 December 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link
i mean find a self-effacing epl player
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 2 December 2011 13:47 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know, most of them probably are
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Friday, 2 December 2011 13:49 (twelve years ago) link
Looking forward to the draw for the Euros later. England would be nice
― Number None, Friday, 2 December 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link
no they wouldn't
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 2 December 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link
Course they would. Spirit of 88 and all that, not that i remember it
― Number None, Friday, 2 December 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link
Why didn't they make, say, Ireland and Czech Republic top seeds with Poland & Ukraine, instead of the malformed grouping they came up with?
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 December 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link
Come now, England + Ireland would be great
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Friday, 2 December 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link
O'Neill for Sunderland btw
'agrees'
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Friday, 2 December 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link
england would not be nice tho, they hardly ever are imce
― Sad Banter (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 2 December 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link
He 'agreed' to take West Ham too iirc, and Leeds back in the day.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 2 December 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link
Strange how the press uses quote marks to signify that something isn't a quote.
― onimo, Friday, 2 December 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link