Oh I know you've always rated him Darragh. Just sayin' - last few weeks in particular he's been so so good. God I love him. (xposts)
― Chris, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
being a winger who can't cross is like being a striker who can't shoot straight oh wait gervinho i see a pattern
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
tbf half the wingers in the league are of the cutting inside variety these days. You don't see many getting to the byline
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
i know, i just think that if you mainly do that, especially if you're playing on yr weaker side and consequently are more or less unable to cross, u shd be called something other than a winger. not that Theo plays on his weaker side. but it's like the difference between being a "centre forward" and a "striker"
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
K. Doyle for example is a centre forward but i don't think he's a striker
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
Heaven knows why, as the latter is about a million times more effective... provided you can cross the ball, oh, that's where it falls down
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
also unless you have a 30 million pound totem pole in the middle to head the crosses in this tactic mayn't be effective
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
It can't be Jermaine Pennant
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
Valencia used to do it but he seems to be completely frightened of taking on a defender since he came back from injury, and since he still plays on the right and doesn't even have the semblance of a left foot cutting inside is completely pointless
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
Who's the best crosser in the league then?
charlie adam's corners are worth 10 million quid don't ya know.
― Chris, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
Corners are another kettle of fish entirely. Nani is an excellent crosser but his corners and set-pieces in general are awful
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
baines, bale, bellamy, gerrard, young, valencia all p good from top of my head, i'm sure there's loads more.
Cleverley landed a few beauties against us too, nani prob worth mention. Downing always used to be, but these days i dunno.
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
i've seen some rotten corners this season too, guys who regularly can't beat the first defender, several of them wearing Old Gold
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
rory delap, in a way.
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
Was going to mention C. Adam, but bombing down the wing and pinging over crosses seems beyond his physical capabilities (xxxxp)
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
Argh! Lucas! Six months! Now what? Henderson has got to step up big time.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
Convinced that moaning about footballers being unable to cross the ball is a sign of getting older
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
don't mind footballers being unable to cross, think wingers shd be able to. obviously i'm getting old and senile but that's beside the point
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not sure if guys like Jimmy Johnstone, or whoever, were particularly great crossers either
― Tony Hart land (Deep in the Tony Hart land), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
NBS is teh_hoBB I'm sure
aye, just temporarily going back in time
― The Artist Formerly Known As Teh HoBB, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
Best crossers currently = Nani, Bale, Baines, Young. I'd probably rate Nani the best of those.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
Assou-Ekotto is pretty sweet when it comes to putting in crosses as well.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
corluka's a good crosser
Footballers being one-footed, not being able to cross, set pieces being poor- pet peeves
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
Trevor Francis is the earliest "dude who can run really fast down a wing and has no end product when he gets to the byline" player i can remember but he perhaps didn't invent it
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
bae- yep
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
Remembers Trevor Francis = noodle vague, no?
― The Artist Formerly Known As Teh HoBB, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
i thought it was obvious ages ago tbh
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
toyed with claiming to be pinefox for a moment
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
garrincha!
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
Oh yeah Mata as well.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
dunno how Alan Ball was as a crosser of the ball but read an anecdote once where he complained to Ramsay that all he'd done was run up and down all match without receiving the ball
― Julie Lagger, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
steve guppy- proper fuckin winger, son
― daramaracas.jpg (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
have woken from my afternoon nap to be greeted with this 'lucas out for 6 months' news. Am sad for the player. Am sad for myself. May go for a nap for the rest of the season :(
― pandemic, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
will chime in with the 'players being one footed' pet peeve. Especially when they would rather not cross the ball at all than even attempt a cross with their 'wrong' foot!
― pandemic, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
xp. It's not official, but Shelvey has returned from Blackpool, which is pretty ominous. Just as Sky and the rest had woken up to the fact that he's rather decent, too. Gutted for him.
― Chris, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
Shamrock putting up a proper fight against Rubin Kazan right now, 2-1 down at half-time
― lebateauivre, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
Don't get why we think Shelvey is suddenly going to transform into a top class DM when that's never been the role we've had in mind for him. Our overreliance on Lucas and our unwillingness to give him a rest has been hugely irresponsible and nothing short of a joke. Still, at least the fans can still dream of a trip to the new Wembley. And we do exist to win trophies. Yeah right. Fucking fuming right now.
― Chris, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
Bruce gone
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
woah
― Chris, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
woah. Hughes? McClaren?
― pandemic, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
Rafa or GTFO
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
Ha, just finished the Guardian's everyone-stays piece that's just gone up
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
Hahaha, looks like it's been pulled
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
Martin O'Neill seems to be the early favourite but that's a standard reaction at this point i assume
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
He's not gonna want to be last on MOTD is he?Got a shock when I saw Alan Curbishley on the list of candidates, had forgotten he was a football manager!
― pandemic, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
It is interesting to see you guys go "Arsenal are a 1 man team, Theo is shit and can't cross." Umm, who do you think made all his goals, and how they were made? Like 50% came from Theo crosses. Because he is the best winger in the league. But its cool, y'all still see him as the 16 year old who hadn't developed yet.
― big popppa hoy, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
RIP Bruce, heaven needed an updated Iain Dowie in the shit manager who kept getting top jobs without any talent.
― big popppa hoy, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
Am I right in thinking Bruce hasn't been sacked before?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
Theo the second best winger in the league. Behind Micah Richards.
― pandemic, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
He usually walks to pastures new iircxp