I think Herman's pretty much exhausted his laugh-quotient; Perry may have a surprise or two left (like yesterday's confusion over voting age).
― clemenza, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 13:07 (twelve years ago) link
obama would win easily against gingrich, and i think the GOP establishment knows it. also, many -- many, many -- lolz if ginrich wins the republican nomination.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.lpzoo.org/sites/default/files/images/facts/emperor_newt.jpg
― by (mennen), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link
Gingrich has so, so, so much dirt on his CV
― iatee, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
shhhh.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
LET NEWT SURGE
I agree that Obama would be a huge favourite against Gingrich; it's difficult to imagine the country choosing Gingrich as president.
But it was also close to impossible at one point imagining that Gingrich might win the nomination. If it ever did come down to Gingrich-Obama--and let's say Europe gets even messier, and that spills over into 10 or 11% unemployment over here--than I think you need to leave open the possibility that there would be so much anger at that point, people would be ready to vote in Pauly Shore.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
man i want to see the VP choices for gingrich, for the value of the ideological and aesthetic pairing. how about gingrich -- boehner? who-hoo! or gingrich -- trump! dare to dream.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
why has the Cain Train derailed?
― I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
WHY IT'S STRONGER THAN EVER
more than ever, we need Herman Cain
― I'm in the mood to party (J0n Arbuckle), Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
if cain could only make a voting block out of the women he's allegedly harassed or with whom he's allegedly had affairs, he might have enough support to win the GOP nomination.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
Sizable voting blocks:
Newt -- ex-wives.Huntsman -- people who thought, "Kurt Cobain?"
― clemenza, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link
Obama-Gingrich debates would be fascinating
this is a new level of derangement
if Newt is nominated I will kiss all of yr asses is Macys window
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
If Gingrich is leading NH polls ten days before the primary, look for amazingly timely, scandalous "revelations."
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, come on--Obama and Gingrich would be amazing. Gingrich could say anything at any time, and Obama would be walking a tightrope--how much to hang back and let Gingrich destroy himself, but at the same time running the risk that Gingrich pounces (obviously Obama is vulnerable all over the place). Or if Obama debated aggressively, that would just increase the chance that Gingrich goes off.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
I think I'm w/ you morbs but otoh the fact that romney still hasn't sealed this up might suggest that this might be an unusual primary
― iatee, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
dr. m is probably right, and that just tells you how little people are paying attention (because none of those possible "revelations" are actually new).
the thing is that the extent to which they'd damage gingrich at that point is largely dependent on the mood of the anyone-but-romney voting bloc at the time. if there's no alternative to gingrich (or at least none that could be settled upon in time), the "revelations" may not matter.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
intrade has romney at 53.8%, newt at 30%
that's absurd I should go make some money off this
THAT'S CRAZY THERE IS NO MONEY TO BE MADE FROM POLITICS.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
everyone knows this.
willing to suggest that there's *some* chance of this going all weird and romney not getting it, but 50%?
― iatee, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
btw, rick perry is now a populist
CarrieNBCNews Carrie Dann -- "You don't have to sit back & take it any more," "reach beyond the confines of the Beltway." Big push against "insiders" (read: Mitt/Newt)____________________________CarrieNBCNews Carrie Dann -- More Perry: "Americans were snookered" by "Wall Street highrollers" who were "betting against America." Harsher than usual.____________________________CarrieNBCNews Carrie Dann -- Populist Perry this AM in Nashua: "What's wrong with America can be diagrammed on a napkin... Straight line between DC and Wall St"
CarrieNBCNews Carrie Dann -- More Perry: "Americans were snookered" by "Wall Street highrollers" who were "betting against America." Harsher than usual.
____________________________
CarrieNBCNews Carrie Dann -- Populist Perry this AM in Nashua: "What's wrong with America can be diagrammed on a napkin... Straight line between DC and Wall St"
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
CarrieNBCNews Carrie Dann -- Populist Perry this AM in Nashua: "What's wrong with America can be diagrammed on a napkin... OOH I DREW A DOGGIE!"
― OH NOES, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link
LOL
― Nicole, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link
I sorta doubt Newt will pull ahead in NH but if so, yeah this is going to happen. Newt will never get the nomination, will probably limp through Iowa and NH and bank all his hopes on South Carolina.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:30 (twelve years ago) link
If someone doesn't kick him in the nuts for this, we should just give ourselves back to Britain. His corporate whoredom is blatantly obvious.
― M. White, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
<i>Newt will never get the nomination, will probably limp through Iowa</i>
He may well get crushed in NH, but, barring sudden developments, it doesn't look like he'll be limping through Iowa. "Never"'s a strong word; the older I get, the less and less I'm inclined to speak in absolutes.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
Square brackets--okay, now I get it.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
Newt will never get the (GOP) nomination______________________________________"Never"'s a strong word; the older I get, the less and less I'm inclined to speak in absolutes.
______________________________________
"Never"'s a strong word; the older I get, the less and less I'm inclined to speak in absolutes.
i will go out on a limb and say the following people will never get the GOP nomination.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
Never say never, but even among Republicans Newt's negative numbers are probably insuperable and even if they want to nominate someone who Obama is likely to beat, they'll want someone they actually like.
― M. White, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like newt will fuck this up and flame out at some point because he's newt gingrich and that's what he does.
― slandblox goole, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
Chamblis/Duffy '12
― OH NOES, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like newt cain perry will fuck this up and flame out at some point because he's newt cain perry and that's what he does.
― Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
naw, newt's actually got a chance here, especially if other non-romneys drop out of the race. he'll do pretty well in iowa and NH, and might do very well in south-carolina, where the south begins to roll.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
NEWTNEWTNEWTNEWT
I wouldn't discount Abe Vigoda--Tessio was always smarter, and believe me, I know.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
Tiffany's of NY is definitely in Newt's corner on this nomination thing.
― Aimless, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
I hope he uses "Breakfast at Tiffany's" as his campaign song.
― Nicole, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
The Freddie Mac thing has got to be thrown in his face. Perry is a ham-fisted hypocrite about the 'napkin diagram' but Newt is the ultimate Beltway insider and the Teabaggers and the Base have to decide whether even a shred of coherence is important to them. Personally, I'd like to see all their heads explode Scanners-style at the multitude of contradictions they presently contain.
― M. White, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
Frum's head has already exploded, evidently (that was a great piece btw, thx for the link upthread)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
The Freddie Mac thing has got to be thrown in his face
don't shoot until you see the whites of their eyes (i.e., general election v. newt gingrich).
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
Bobby Moynihan is probably out distributing Newt fliers as we speak
― OH NOES, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
How can you not love him?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU72izvZVRA
"I can't tell you what Speaker Gingrich is saying." I can only tell you what Speaker Gingrich is saying.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
I love how the de facto GOP position is "round em up and deport em" as if that is a) moral, b) simple, c) inexpensive and d) a net benefit for the economy
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
their old position was "let them fry on an electrified fence with an alligator-infested moat dug around it," so this is an improvement.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
in that it's only slightly less feasible eh I guess so
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
Josh Marshall thinks Newt-mentum may have legs:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2011/11/mitts_darkening_horizon.php
― o. nate, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
I said this not as a partisan but as general advice. S/he who is (relatively, to him) w/o sin cast some mf'ing stones ppl!
― M. White, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link