999 as in the emergancy telephone number? oh wait that is 911 in america. 999% percent?
― big popppa hoy, Monday, 28 November 2011 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
999 is the best economic plan for the 99%, as proven by science, 99 out of 100 times.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 28 November 2011 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
By the way, I think Gingrich's immigration bombshell in the last debate was (besides amounting to basic decency) political genius. I don't think it'll cost him much--he'll either win Iowa or he won't, regardless--but it would be a huge advantage if he ever got to a general, and it goes a long way towards getting the media on his side.
― clemenza, Monday, 28 November 2011 23:35 (twelve years ago) link
he'll either win Iowa or he won't
i will wager $1,000,000,000,000 that this is true.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 28 November 2011 23:36 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think it'll cost him much
it will definitely cost him if he keeps it up
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 28 November 2011 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
he's already begun defending himself against it, e.g., his silly "citizen counsels will decide which undocumented-persons will stay and which undocumented-persons will go" proposal.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 28 November 2011 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
yeah for sure, this is not a free lunch
― iatee, Monday, 28 November 2011 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
That's about how much he got from Freddie Mac, right? What I mean is his immigration stand won't ultimately decide whether he wins or not...I don't think so; if he sticks with it, what he loses on the one hand from the heartless-bastard side of the party, he gains on the other by contrasting himself with Romney's equivocation. (Just saw him on CNN, and he repeated almost verbatim what he said at the debate: that you just can't rip apart families who've been here 25 years.)
― clemenza, Monday, 28 November 2011 23:41 (twelve years ago) link
what he loses on the one hand from the heartless-bastard side of the party,
this is the only side of the party
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 28 November 2011 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
or, at the very least it's the only side of the party that votes in primaries
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 28 November 2011 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
well, i think gingrich can innoculate himself on the issue to some extent, at least vis-a-vis romney.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 28 November 2011 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
newt and rove are smart enough to know that you can't win elections on racism forever, but that 'heartless-bastard side of the party' is aka 'the gop base'
― iatee, Monday, 28 November 2011 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
You gotta have some faith in people. (I learned that from Mariel Hemingway in *Manhattan*.)
― clemenza, Monday, 28 November 2011 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
(speaking of good material for the next round of "romney flip-flop" ads)
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 28 November 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
okay, 61 calls from cain to this new accuser.
sadly, she is going to be dragged thru the mud. there's already stories circulating about how she is in financial distress and has faced evictions and bankrupcies over the past 20 years.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 28 November 2011 23:49 (twelve years ago) link
she shld blame herself for not being rich iirc
― big popppa hoy, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
“Rather, this appears to be an accusation of private, alleged consensual conduct between adults - a subject matter which is not a proper subject of inquiry by the media or the public. No individual, whether a private citizen, a candidate for public office or a public official, should be questioned about his or her private sexual life.”
lol
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
It's too bad no one seems to use the word 'bloviator' any more. It would be a perfect fit for His Newtness.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 00:34 (twelve years ago) link
i love how whenever you see a picture of herman cain now it's capturing him in the middle of some denial, joining the scene in media res while he fans the flames of a new allegation. he's always defensively poised, half-impatient half-indignant
― Never translate German (schlump), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 00:34 (twelve years ago) link
u r addicts. someone tell Newt.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
surely Obama is on the heartless bastard side of the Dems, no?
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 01:46 (twelve years ago) link
surely.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 29 November 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link
my 10 year-old daughter just said herman cain should compose a song to respond to the allegations of infidelity.
he does have a marvelous singing voice.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 29 November 2011 01:57 (twelve years ago) link
I already joined Newt's 2016 street team.
also Ditka is gonna be vp, you heard it here first
― by (mennen), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 04:14 (twelve years ago) link
I was hoping that a Google search of "Newt's Street Team" would return some really cool images, but no luck.
http://www.allwwewrestlers.com/Mean_Street_Posse.jpg
― clemenza, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 12:16 (twelve years ago) link
oooh i saw a recent picture of the mean street posse the other day. if it weren't for joey abs looking exactly the same, i'd have had no idea it was them though.
(picture has been saved for future 'seeing 'taker in a pet shop: hal(o)l of fame wrestlers pictures thread', no need to blow my load herre)
― big popppa hoy, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
cain is going to drop out of the race very soon. watch for it.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
Gingrich already trying to re-establish how much he hates Mexicans lol
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
English as the "official language", support for draconian anti-immigration state laws etc
cain 're-assessing' his candidacy.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
“He is not thinking of dropping out of the race,” Gordon added. “He is simply reassessing the state of the campaign. We intend to be full speed ahead.”
Yeah, he'll be out by Thursday, at the latest.
― Tarfumes the Escape Goat, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
u guyz are a Roman Colosseum crowd
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Roman_Legion-Hare_frame.png/220px-Roman_Legion-Hare_frame.png
― Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
it's true I love a good Christian disemboweling
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
not really i'm sad about it
herman cain brings the lolz
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
I wish he would stick around.
― Nicole, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
don't worry.
where the presidential campaign ends, the FOX news talk-show begins.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 29 November 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
no one cares about Herman Cain the Pundit, come on now
― OH NOES, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, Huckabee as host is way less fun than Huckabee as candidate (although I could see deriving some pleasure out of a Palin interview show).
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
Huckabee's show is hilariously bad
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
probably right. this makes me sad. don't quit, herman cain.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 29 November 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
I care. I care deeply.
― superb mario bothers (crüt) (step hen faps), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
I would need to confer with the experts and generals and advisors before making a decision about whether I care or not
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
we can care about this more thoroughly over dinner later
― superb mario bothers (crüt) (step hen faps), Tuesday, 29 November 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
WOOT WOOT
you hear that, former gov. mitt romney?
http://www.samhurdphotography.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/mitt-romney-7.jpg
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 29 November 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
(truthfully i think the polling shows about 50% of cain's supporters list romney as their second choice, so in fact, cain dropping out might help romney. but whatevs.)
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 29 November 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
Pundit Cain will happen because the reactionaries need more black faces. It is part of their strategy of shock and awe.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
Michael Steele has sold out to MSNBC, so Fox needs a Cain.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Alan_Keyes.jpg/220px-Alan_Keyes.jpg
― OH NOES, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
lol even Keyes went to MSNBC for his show
black Republicans know what's up, y'all
― OH NOES, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
the idea that abortion should be a state decision is fucking horseshit. shouldn't be anybody's decision.
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Sunday, 1 January 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
just will make the current conditions where it's hard to get em in the midwest even more difficult when huge pockets of territory ban it
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Sunday, 1 January 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
i gave this one a good go, but Greenwald is so fucking asinine. how many times does he have to repeat his premise that you can support an individual candidate's stance w/out endorsing the candidate? he has no evidence that you cannot do so, so he's really tilting at windmills here.
― Mordy, Sunday, 1 January 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
check it out: i agree w/ ron paul's policy of ending the war on drugs
i do not endorse ron paul for president.
holy shit, someone call up Greenwald and tell him!
― Mordy, Sunday, 1 January 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
yeah for fuck's sake I agree with a lot of his platforms (and disagree with a lot of others)...wow mindblowing greenwald!
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Sunday, 1 January 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
so, no diff from Bam
youre oversimplifying his central point.
― Dr Morbius, Sunday, 1 January 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
or misidentifying it really. (He's just pointing out that others have SAID he has endorsed Huntsman or Paul when he has not)
― Dr Morbius, Sunday, 1 January 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
hes just pointing out that people are holding him to the same standard he always holds them to, the crazy enraged ninny
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 1 January 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
imagine glenn greenwald not understanding really simple things http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2011/12/ron-paul-not-civil-libertarian-last.html
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 1 January 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link
cool that Katrina vanden Heuvel supports ron paul's race war platform
― t. silaviver, Sunday, 1 January 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
that's actually an excellent essay by gg there, if you can deal with his breathless style, which I can't always. it's in some ways an expansion of that yglesias post i linked yesterday: that a paul nomination might actually be the best scenario for liberals because it'll both push Obama (presumably) to the left on these issues and all but ensure his re-election in a general
― k3vin k., Sunday, 1 January 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
greenwald was caught up in an idiotic twitter beef yesterday, which tangentially involved a poster here too. his coldness and seeming aversion to social norms is one of he reasons i vastly prefer him when he's writing about law/policy rather than "politics", but still he's spot on in that essay
― k3vin k., Sunday, 1 January 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
to clarify it was gg who was being idiotic, not the beef itself
― k3vin k., Sunday, 1 January 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
The thing I loathe most about election season is reflected in the central fallacy that drives progressive discussion the minute “Ron Paul” is mentioned. As soon as his candidacy is discussed, progressives will reflexively point to a slew of positions he holds that are anathema to liberalism and odious in their own right and then say: how can you support someone who holds this awful, destructive position?
He needs to stop making assertions that are clearly based on his own anecdotal evidence (or worse, just shit he imagined). Ron Paul has more liberal support than any other Republican candidate, and any cap on that support is due to the very distinctions GG is spelling out. Dude who supports going back to the gold standard is never going to get wide cross-party support no matter how great he may be on other issues.
― Mordy, Sunday, 1 January 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i also hate his meta columns: the audience for columns like this are like the twelve fellow journos he beefs with on twitter
― k3vin k., Sunday, 1 January 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
I thought Greenwald would kick it on New Year's Day, lying on the grass in sandals with his boyfriend.
― Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 1 January 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
that photograph still haunts my dreams
― k3vin k., Sunday, 1 January 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.out.com/sites/out.com/files/GlennGreenwald1.jpg
― Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 1 January 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
aw
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 1 January 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link
The dog on the left is "Addington," his boo's is "Russert."
― Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 1 January 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
cool cargo shorts
― t. silaviver, Sunday, 1 January 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago) link
the very same people who in 2004 wildly cheered John Kerry
Oh yes, who cold forget Kerrymania? Everyone was putting JK pictures in their trapper keepers, women were pissing their pants when he spoke at the Iowa County Fair. It was a crazy time for sure.
spent all of 2008 mocking John McCain’s wealthy life courtesy of his millionaire heiress wife and will spend 2012 depicting Mitt Romney’s wealth as proof of his insularity
Yes, democrats kept a laser-like focus on this one issue for all of 2008.
That combat experience is an important presidential trait was insisted upon in 2004 by the very same people who vehemently denied it in 2008, and vice-versa.
lol this totally did not happen.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 1 January 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
I think the main slogan for Kerry's campaign might as well have been "You should see the OTHER guy"...
― if you ain't gonna wash it, i ain't gonna eat it, Sunday, 1 January 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
I kinda feel like gg's columns become much better when you imagine him saying, "or whatever you know what I mean," after every assertion.
― Mordy, Sunday, 1 January 2012 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
lol he likes ron paul lol
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 1 January 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
I am sure this has been discussed before but wow his bf should be out of his league no?
esp considering gg's personality
― iatee, Sunday, 1 January 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
but but he is famous blogger!
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Sunday, 1 January 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
I caught the last 10 minutes of Gingrich's press conference today--New Year's or no New Year's, attention must be paid to the gossipy horserace--and it was encouraging for anyone still living the train-wreck dream. He's not going to win, but it does appear ready to go down in flames. There was a great moment where his inner Nixon got the better of him: acknowledging that Romney's ad-barrage had driven him down to low double-digits, he fairly hissed that "If I'd spent three-and-half million dollars going after Romney, he'd be down to 3%."
― clemenza, Sunday, 1 January 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
it = he
― clemenza, Sunday, 1 January 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
I know, right? Otoh, this picture should give all single people hope because if GG can pull a hot piece like that, theoretically anyone can.
― Nicole, Sunday, 1 January 2012 23:31 (twelve years ago) link
Given the concerns I have for some of the Republican field’s focus thus far, I must implore the candidates to do something that sounds self-promoting, but whatever. Candidates, please turn to Chapter Three of “Going Rogue” and read what it takes for our country to step toward energy independence. Note the lesson I share in the same chapter about taking on the “elite,” the crony capitalists and the permanent political establishment to get a job done.
The "but whatever" is the touch that spins this straw into gold.
― Nicole, Sunday, 1 January 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
thatsracist.gif
― illegal crew member (C.K. Dexter Holland), Monday, 2 January 2012 00:36 (twelve years ago) link
gonna miss you on ilx gman
― caek, Monday, 2 January 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link