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The numbers and the history of Russian POWs liberated from German camps are a bit off, but there were plenty of ex-Red Army guys who seriously did NOT want to go back. Some of them were sent back anyway, where plenty were executed. Tombot and/or E.Telecom might be able to correct my history here.

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Friday, 16 February 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

OH, OK. I thought they were saying they were "OUR" POWs.

METAL ROBOTIC HEAD FACE (scarymonster), Friday, 16 February 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks, kingfish.

Politically Inc Guide to America History

Hasn't this been roundly discredited as an error-prone tome full of unsupported assertions and cherry-picked facts?

(SHOCKAH)

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Friday, 16 February 2007 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

lol at ALL OF SCIENCE BUSTED IN A SINGLE VOLUME

Dethrone the dictaphone, hit it in it's funny bone (kenan), Friday, 16 February 2007 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link

TAKE THAT, SCIENCE!

Dethrone the dictaphone, hit it in it's funny bone (kenan), Friday, 16 February 2007 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I think this is one of the reasons they push so much for vouchers/charter schools. They don't like their kids being "indoctrinated" by them libruls, so they're gunna do it right.

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Friday, 16 February 2007 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

here's the publisher's write-up for the anti-science book:

Science has been politicized—not by the Right, but by the Left, which sees global warming, Darwinism, stem cell research, and innumerable other issues as tools to advance its agenda (and in many cases expand the reach of government).

When liberals trot out scientists with white coats, debate is supposed to be silenced. But many of the high priests of science have something to hide—from blind intolerance of religion to jealous guarding of their federally financed research budgets...


and here's the NPR/Slate thing debunking the anti-history book

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Friday, 16 February 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

someone please confirm el jeffe's insane statement that Tina Fey is a republican

akm (akmonday), Friday, 16 February 2007 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

apparently she admitted so in an Oct 2004 ish of Life, but i can't find that article to back up that claim

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

In 2004, in life magazine, and in subsequent interviews, she referred to herself as a Republican. She now refers to herself as an independent.

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Friday, 16 February 2007 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Life or Parade? The reference I found made it seem like the latter. Not that the Parade site was any help, instead there's stuff like this:

http://www.parade.com/images/2007/0211/Main021107.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

HA ha. Khaddafi's on that list, and doesn't stand a chance.

The Uzbeck leader is on there, but isn't the guy from Turkmenistan also a real good candidate?

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

WHO WILL WIN THE COVETED DICKY THIS YEAR?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Kim Jung Il is the best

jw (ex machina), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

He really hurt himself though by making some concessions in the last couple of months. I think this could be Putin's year.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

what no Hugo??!?

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

what no Hugo??!?

Uh, check the dude on the left.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

That's not Chavez. (I originally thought it was, too)

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Friday, 16 February 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Isayas Afewerki currently has 76% of the vote.

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Friday, 16 February 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Tina Fey is a godless, glassy-eyed Clintonista, and I don't want to hear any different.

Dethrone the dictaphone, hit it in it's funny bone (kenan), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow.

Those books.

Weept.

Øystein (Øystein), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

many of the high priests of science have something to hide

isn't it distintly odd that they use this terminology. i can't fathom it.

Frogm@n henry (Frogm@n henry), Friday, 16 February 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Certainly odd, but not unusual, unfortunately. The whole "science is just another religion" argument is used quite a bit. Search the web for phrases like "science is a religion" and "evolution is a religion" and you will find some of the saddest non-pornographic content it has to offer.

Øystein (Øystein), Friday, 16 February 2007 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

projection, i think. Works the same way they term anybody who believes in any form of evolution(micro/macro) or natural selection as a "Darwinist." These scientists are just another partisian political party who are nothing but blind adherents to an ideology, a worship of a dead Victorian biologist. Research and evidence and peer-review don't mean jack shit. These scientists fall in line just as easily and as dogmatically as the rightwing authoritians do, and when these claims of "objective science" are challenge, they just "trot out scientists with white coats," so that "debate is supposed to be silenced."

It's like they finally grabbed onto the postmordernism/relativism that they decried for decades when they figured out they could use it as a club. There are no objective truths or facts, only a battle of opinions. Empiric reality doesn't matter, since facts & opinions are the same.

xp exactly

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Friday, 16 February 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

It's like they finally grabbed onto the postmordernism/relativism that they decried for decades when they figured out they could use it as a club.

OTM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These guys are the ULTIMATE relativists, they're not even aware of it most of the time.

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Friday, 16 February 2007 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

yknow, the tactical polyvalence of discourse

max (maxreax), Friday, 16 February 2007 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.slate.com/id/2159920?nav=tap3

and what (ooo), Friday, 16 February 2007 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Didn't the Turkmenistan guy die?

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Friday, 16 February 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Yup, couple of months ago.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 February 2007 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

No way, Tina Fey is not a Republican. It can't be true. Is Alec Baldwin the one who wrote the "Anne Coulter's 60th birthday" joke on 30 Rock?

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Friday, 16 February 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, sorry to bring the stupid, but I can't tell if I'm parsing that Limbaugh/ Coulter gag correctly. In his setup, RL is clearly addressing "[his] fellow Americans," so AC's punchline implies that they'd invade the U.S., kill themselves ("your leaders"), and then convert the U.S. to Christianity. Which is hi-larious since she's satarizing her own image as a vituperative and vindictive harpy AND the lefty notion (or at least their impression of it) that the right wants to set up a theocratic fascist police state or something.

But. That's a lot of layers of irony/ self-awareness that aren't evident elsewhere in that sketch; more than one layer anyway, which is as deep as the other jokes go at best. Specifically that RL line about the U.S.'s international reputation being a shambles after two years of a Democratic congress, cough cough. I almost think that the intent of the AC punchline was nothing more than "tweaking the left again with that great un-pc line about invading others people's countries,"
without the understanding of what they were actually suggesting. Could be wrong, but she says "invade your countries" instead of "invade your country," so it kinda looks like the latter case.

slugbuggy (slugbuggy), Friday, 16 February 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

it's that mix of self-perceived persecution, lazy anti-intellectualism/ahistoricism, and formless, undirected bile

Very strange with this book -- Slate and the NY Times attack it for being too conservative and go on about how it's indicative of this and that and Hannity and so forth. But the conservatives who are attacking it seem to have a better point: the guy is not a conservative thinker, he's a bleedin' Confederate thinker. Total wack job. Didn't Slate of the Times read the book? There's your lead right there.

Dethrone the dictaphone, hit it in it's funny bone (kenan), Friday, 16 February 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I almost think that the intent of the AC punchline was nothing more than "tweaking the left again with that great un-pc line about invading others people's countries,"

That's right. A lot of conservative humor is based on the idea of offending liberal pc sensibilities, "throwing down the gauntlet."

"I just raped a bunch of baby seals"
"Har. Har. That'll really get 'em going."

All they need is like one disproving review, and it's "OMG, the liberal MSM went batshit crazy! Har har!"

That is, like, 80% of conservative humor.

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Friday, 16 February 2007 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

he's a bleedin' Confederate thinker

To be fair, this distinction has been deliberately blurred for decades, from the segregation folks to the southern strategy to the "red state" thing.

Dude does tip his hand a bit much w/ the johnny reb officer on the cover.

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Friday, 16 February 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

disapproving

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Friday, 16 February 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

The book went too far for mainstream conservative reviewers. Read the reviews of Dinesh D'Souza's new book for a similar response.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Friday, 16 February 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/1596980036.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

They released "Female Chauvinist Pigs" with a different cover in America, then.

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Friday, 16 February 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

All I know is that's a great apron.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 16 February 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

wtf with that outfit!

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 February 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

WOULD SMASH

jw (ex machina), Friday, 16 February 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm realizing that I don't know as much about what conservatives believe as I thought I did. How many conservatives, apart from Mr. South Will Rise Again, still believe that nullification is a valid political tenet?

Dethrone the dictaphone, hit it in it's funny bone (kenan), Friday, 16 February 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

We’ve been duped.

We were raised to think we could have it all. In college we were told that men weren’t necessary. Pop culture told us that career—not family—came first. The idea of being a stay-at-home mom was for losers. And yet are we happier than our mothers or grandmothers, who grew up before women were “liberated” by the sexual revolution? For many women, the answer is no. In The Politically Incorrect Guide™ to Women, Sex, and Feminism, Carrie Lukas, a young career woman and new mother, sets the record straight: correcting the lies women have been told and slamming the door on the screaming harpies of NOW, feminist professors, and the rest of the bra-burners who have done so much to wreck women’s lives.

Bet your feminist teacher never told you:

* Women’s lib has “liberated” men from having to commit, “freed” women from marriage, and often “unshackled” women from having a family.
* More than ever, women in their twenties and thirties live alone, are discarded by boyfriends after “living together,” and are watching their biological clocks tick past the point of no return.
* Women still prefer men who are breadwinners and can protect them physically.

TICK TICK TICK.

Silly 21st-Century feminists, burning their expensive bras & all that.

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Friday, 16 February 2007 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

xxpost I never cease to be amused/horrified at how these people seem to think that Feminism is all written out in some Bible that Feminists refer back to, and no further thought or discussion has happened since 1972.

Dethrone the dictaphone, hit it in it's funny bone (kenan), Friday, 16 February 2007 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost EXACTLY

Dethrone the dictaphone, hit it in it's funny bone (kenan), Friday, 16 February 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

conservatives railing against straw(wo)man shockah

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 February 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

actually, are there _any_ of those books that aren't just disingeniousness and bilious railing against strawmen?

they be stealin' kingfish's bucket (kingfish), Friday, 16 February 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

. In college we were told that men weren’t necessary.

See what LUGs and vibrators hath wrought?

milo (milo), Friday, 16 February 2007 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

x-post to Fluffy Bear:

In that case that's gotta be the most OMGWTF-cosmically-insane thing ever, that Coulter and writers didn't get that she inadvertantly threatened to invade the U.S., kill U.S. leaders, convert U.S. citizens to Christianity, and so on. Mind blown, etc..

slugbuggy (slugbuggy), Friday, 16 February 2007 23:59 (seventeen years ago) link


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