― Ed (dali), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost
― and what (ooo), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link
Blaming Darwin for Hitler is like blaming Jebus for Vlad the Impaler.
― My Life in the Ghosts of Bush (Modal Fugue), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― and what (ooo), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― My Life in the Ghosts of Bush (Modal Fugue), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link
actually, they do! there's some site out there for "christian erotica" or some such. it's some really circumscribed erotic stories, but hey, if it gets some of these folks to finally accept intimacy, go for it.
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link
-William L. Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1990), p.236.
― and what (ooo), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link
"Aww, man, I would totally have this baby, but my genes aren't very good, so ..."
(That's a missed opportunity, really: much more traction in the argument that we're selfish consumption-obsessed children who seek out frivolous self-gratification over the greater fulfillment of family and child-rearing.)
― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Kenneth Branagh (gcannon), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link
The argument I've heard proposed by certain creationists I know:
1) Even if genetic mutation/"microevolution" (ugh) does occur, evolutionary theory still is not plausible because "most mutations are harmful."2) When God created living things back in Eden, the gene pool was so pure that even harmful mutations would do minimal damage.
― step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link
they have, and have.
― Kenneth Branagh (gcannon), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link
I've read the Shirer. I think he's only partly right: Luther is certainly a crucial influence on ideas of German-ness, but I don't think the Nazis were explicitly "following his advice".
― My Life in the Ghosts of Bush (Modal Fugue), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Monday, 4 December 2006 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link
That one makes little to no sense (and yeah, I know it's not your argument): billions of three-eyed two-headed tail-having double-jointed backwards-limbed critters dead within weeks, just like they are in the present = so?
― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link
for real tracer, saying fundies 'have a point' about evolution & hitler is right up there with 'hiphop is dead cuz williamsburg only jams biggie nowadays'
― and what (ooo), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― grbchv! (gbx), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost germans saw martin luther in him. really? never heard this. even so, you may as well blame il duce on dante
― Kenneth Branagh (gcannon), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― My Life in the Ghosts of Bush (Modal Fugue), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Galton
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link
Tell me about it.
― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― and what (ooo), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― and what (ooo), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link
Martin Luther OTOH is totally overrated by our received Protestant-slanted history. It's been ingrained in the way we're taught that he was some kind of hero "reformer" that we rarely look at his terrible bastard side.
― Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Monday, 4 December 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― and what (ooo), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― and what (ooo), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link
xp
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link
haha i love the west sometimes
― Kenneth Branagh (gcannon), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― and what (ooo), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link
agreed that the fundies (and tracer) are wrong about darwin leading to hitler, my point was that i didn't think/didn't know nazism was that closely linked, either by design or implication, with early protestantism/luther in specific, rather just euro anti-semitism in general
...contrasted with mussolini, who DID say he was the unnamed and as yet-unseen worldly savior of italy called for in the comedy (not dante's fault)
― Kenneth Branagh (gcannon), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link
AT BIBLE STUDY.
― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link