― Del Monte Young (ex machina), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link
Whatsay some of us organize a little road trip? I have a hankering for New Orleans!
I say with conviction that I WILL be in NO for Carnival next year. The only thing that can keep me away is being a FT student, or perhaps death.
― Metrosexual Healing (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Metrosexual Healing (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― chicago kevin cleaned a lot of plates in memphis (chicago kevin), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link
Anyway, is the winner of a sports competition really the best team? Sure, they scored their way to the top, but if you replayed any game they were in, they could often just as easily have won, so the empirical reason for calling them "the best" is not unquestionable, and there is room for subjectivity. Right?
― Metrosexual Healing (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link
Stupid because it's relative? I mean, obv. there's no way to prove that such-and-such film is the "best" of the year, but I guess I like the idea of history recording what many people's consensus favorite is. When I say "get it right," partially I'm talking about agreeing with ME (which is admittedly silly) -- but I'm also talking about the Oscars reiterating what seems to be the overall critical/public opinion. Last year, I was disappointed by Crash winning, on one hand because *I* thought that Brokeback Mountain was the superior film, but mostly because Brokeback was a fascinating cultural phenomenon and a Best Picture win would've capped off its narrative in a really satisfying way.
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link
Oh wait, I just remembered, you didn't like it.
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't think "get it right" necessarily means "agree with me," only since one's reasons for believing a movie is The Best would have to extend beyond your own particular opinion. Right?
― Metrosexual Healing (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link
I agree with this.
The difference is that the whole purpose of a baseball team is to win the World Series, the whole purpose of a football team is to win the Super Bowl, etc. Few movies are created with the primary purpose of winning an Oscar.
― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link
I meant BBM. If it wasn't clear.
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link
Few movies are created with the primary purpose of winning an Oscar.
Maybe the way they get it really wrong is by nominating mostly/only films that are made for this purpose.
― Little kernel of salty honey (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link
so lowest common denomenator wins here? i dunno, i have lousy taste in films especially.
― chicago kevin cleaned a lot of plates in memphis (chicago kevin), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Venus born of the sea with this little kernel of salty honey in her, which only , Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― teasing your poultry (kenan), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Little kernel of salty honey (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link
As for Oscars, I could not possibly care less about who wins what and whose performance was best. I find actors talking about acting to be boring. That does not mean that it IS boring, just that I, Armando, find it to be boring.
― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link
1. General concept of art being a competition.2. Terrible movies always nominated.3. People acting like they are actually a measure of quality.
― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― teasing your poultry (kenan), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― teasing your poultry (kenan), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link
YES
― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.cdzone.co.uk/scans/S/p/Sparks/351847f.jpg
― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link
Yes.
so lowest common denomenator wins here?
I'm not sure that's the best way to describe it, since in the context of film, that term is too redolent of big gross-out comedies or whatever. I mean, yes, it's a consensus, but it's a consensus of what's considered quality.
I find actors talking about acting to be boring.
Hmmm, yeah, I actually find it pretty interesting. But I don't think you find any actors talking about acting on the Oscars. In fact, about the only place you'll actually find actors talking about acting -- I mean, really going into depth about the craft -- is on Charlie Rose or Inside the Actors Studio.
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link
1. LotR winning!2. Terrible movies always nominated.3. People acting like they are actually a measure of quality.4. Too much fuss.5. General concept of art being a competition--only sort of, since this is usually the way of the world except maybe in the case theraputic or healing art.
How can you hate most movies? Really?
― Little kernel of salty honey (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Little kernel of salty honey (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link
fixed.
― chicago kevin cleaned a lot of plates in memphis (chicago kevin), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link
HOWEVER I think that "Half Nelson" was pretty good, as it actually succeeds at being naturalistic, and was subtle, which is a quality you rarely see in movies.
― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Little kernel of salty honey (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link
Very true. Perhaps I should change my opinon to "I don't care about most movies".
― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link
Half NelsonThe Animation ShowBrickMarie AntoinetteMany others WHICH WERE IN MY QUEUE AND I'VE SINCE FORGOTTEN!
― Little kernel of salty honey (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― Little kernel of salty honey (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link
I guess the thing to remember is that the Oscars is what it is. I've never really liked when music critics say things like "In a perfect world, this song would be #1." If all your favorite songs were on top of the charts, and all your favorite movies won Oscars, would that really be a "perfect world"? It seems like it would be kind of weird, actually. I like having stuff that I like, and sometimes it's fun when it syncs up with what other people like, but even when it doesn't, it's still interesting to me to see who likes what and why.
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― chicago kevin cleaned a lot of plates in memphis (chicago kevin), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― Little kernel of salty honey (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link
??? Weird. I'm sure very few 14-year-old girls actually saw "Brick."
I'm going to get my car's oil changed now. Bye.
― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link
Do you mean the Hemingway or the Anais Nin?
― Little kernel of salty honey (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link
the dialog was rediculous, reminded me of heathers. i'm sure 14 year old girls across the country thought it was the best movie ever.
Uh, you're kidding, right?
The dialogue was ridiculous in the sense that you get the impression that Rian Johnson just wanted to have fun with all that hard-boiled noir patter (totally unrealistic), but I think that that actually makes it kind of abstruse and somewhat of an impediment toward 14-year-old girls loving it. They might love Joseph Gordon-Levitt, though, and I don't entirely blame them. Emilie de Ravin and Nora Zehetner are pretty easy on the eyes, too.
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link