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― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

My heart grew heavy upon learning that Lee Hamilton – who gave Reagan a mere naughty finger-shaking for Iran-Contra – was co-chairing.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the worth of the Iraq Study Group is more symbolic than practical. It's bipartisan, and it's meant to build consensus, or at least be a strawman from which a consensus can be derived. As opposed to Bush's approach of shoving untenable solutions down everyone's throats. The sheer amount of coverage it's getting is a relief from the usual corresponding IRAQ GOING TO HELL / BUSH SAYS STAY THE COURSE headlines.

Sure, it repeats things everyone knows, but having it compiled in black & white and stated fairly baldly is worth something in this age of willful ignorance of the facts on the ground.

(I haven't read the whole thing either, I'm about a third of the way through)

― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

ROFL: http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/12/07/bush.blair/index.html

"we'll talk to Iran and Syria as soon as they stop acting in their own best interest"

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

"(ie never)"

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

So even Frank bloody Rich sees this thing as desperate Pollyannism (if not as demented as Bush's), and sez what I said 2 months ago: We've lost. Leave now.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Juan Williams of NPR almost throttled Bill Kristol yesterday when Cheshire Bill yammered through yet another Neville Chamberlain analogy. It was the closest thing to violence I'd seen on FOX News since the O'Reilly-Moore debate (which in Roger Ailes' eyes must rank with Vidal-Buckley).

― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

CJR Daily runs down/thru some of the neocon critics who are presented as the serious, wise men by a WaPo survey.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 00:40 (seventeen years ago) link

and here's a bit of vid/transcript of the Juan Williams/Kristol thing

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Prince Turki Bugs Out

― nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

ugh saw Frum on CNN last night, still acting like the AEI is still a bastion of wisdom and courage rather than a completely discredited bunch of ideological hacks - SO INFURIATING

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

NYDN on how neither the ISG nor the election seem to be changing too much in the white house

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

There is no motivator for Dubya to change policy - he isn't going to. He'll leave it to his successor to deal with, handing political cover to Republicans eager to differentiate themselves from Dubya's policy.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

George Packer's 'Knowing the Enemy, The anthropology of insurgency' from the 12/18 issue of The New Yorker isn't available online but everybody should read it. It's the first fresh thinking I've seen on the 'War on Terror' that makes much sense.

― Michael White (Miguelito), Friday, 15 December 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

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