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The best part will be when she counts saying "One! - Mwha-ha-ha-ha - Two! Mwha ha ha ha" with the Count.
Sesame Street is brilliant. I don't have kids (nor do I want them), and I sometimes find myself glued to the tv watching Sesame Street.
I'm a very proud Auntie, and my little niece Alice does several cute kid tricks. She's almost two. When someone says "sing opera!" she raises her chubby little arms and sings "Ahhh!", in a high voice for about three seconds.
Congratulations Archel and Matt! Christmas will be much easier NOT being pregnant - yes? Your Boxing Day present is here!

aimurchie (aimurchie), Sunday, 17 December 2006 13:31 (seventeen years ago) link

The best part will be when she counts saying "One! - Mwha-ha-ha-ha - Two! Mwha ha ha ha" with the Count

That's how she asks for the DVD! "DDD, pease!" "Which one, sweetheart?" "Ah-ah-ah!"

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 17 December 2006 13:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh good god, counting with the Count is just...classic. I am such a proud auntie. The kids are 6, 4, and just about two. Gus, Sophie, and Alice.
Or, as we like to call her, Allie-boo-boo. Or sometimes just "The Pooh!".
The ridiculousness with kiddlywinks makes me so happy.
I gave Gus, for his birthday, in october, the first two volumes of the Lemony Snicket series. He said "Chapter books! Look Mom! Chapter books!"
I love them so much...I can't even imagine how much you love one of your own. From your loins, and such.
I am the "book" auntie, and that makes me happy.
Hardcovers. Keepsakes. Books. To treasure. Forever.

aimurchie (aimurchie), Sunday, 17 December 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok. Sorry i killed the thread. Tell me, mamas and papas, which books your children are loving right now? So i can be the best "book auntie" ever.
Also, go back to discussing the teething/pooping/co-sleeping stuff. Because i like to read about it here, in the sandbox.

alison murchie (aimurchie), Monday, 18 December 2006 03:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Congratulations to Archel & Matt!

My sons are currently rather obsessed with the Captain Underpants books. I'm not sure Anne likes the toilet humour (she had to have a word with David about making farts gags in front of teachers) but at least it has captured their imaginations. They have both started trying to write their own comic books and their reading has really improved.

We are also reading the Secrets of Droon fantasy series which Mark in particular seems to like and they still occasionally go back to the Mr Men series.

Onimo has his finger in the stink (nu_onimo), Monday, 18 December 2006 10:25 (seventeen years ago) link

awww...congrats, archel!!

this scares me a little though. as long as archel had her baby still inside i could pretend labor was a long way off. now its me or meg next. yikes.

sunny successor (katarina), Monday, 18 December 2006 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

oh and i made it across the ocean. aisle seat was a ridiculously bad idea though.

sunny successor (katarina), Monday, 18 December 2006 13:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay congrats Archel! Sunny, when is yours due again?

This is my last week at work... hoorah!

Meg Busset (Meg Busset), Monday, 18 December 2006 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link

bump so ARCHEL can find easily!

teeny (teeny), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Tallulah at 7 weeks:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/131/329477387_470beb8777_m.jpg

Ava at 7 weeks:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/8/8213599_fb5be44163_m.jpg

WHO WINS?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Both of them could break hearts for England with those huge eyes M. Wow.

And yeah, hi! Alice is asleep on my lap as I type, can't believe she's 8 days old already. Once we got home from the hospital on Monday (though it felt like we were stuck in there much longer) i kept walking into the bedroom, seeing her in her cot and being like 'shit! who left a baby in here?' I can't believe she's ours forever. Majorly in love :)

The only hard part about this first week has been not being able to breastfeed because of Alice's cleft palate. It's just not the same plugging myself into an electric pump 6 times a day, and since I'm not producing much milk yet we have to feed her mostly formula anyway. But she seems to be thriving so it's just my own disappointment that's the problem i guess. Photos following...

Archel (Archel), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

And GOOD LUCK sunny and Meg, you've a treat in store. And I don't mean that in a sarcastic way about labour. Mine was quite quick and that's the absolute best I can say of it, but omg so worth it. (Which isn't to say I'm emerged from the 'I'm NEVER doing that again' phase...)

Archel (Archel), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Is this how you post images here?

Ready for her close-up:
src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/127/330134652_7cfcbe905f.jpg?v=0"

Archel (Archel), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/127/330134652_7cfcbe905f.jpg?v=0

Archel (Archel), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Trying out a black power salute?
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/96/330134654_376ea996d0.jpg?v=0

Archel (Archel), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Alice joins the library:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/129/330134649_9d3b62bfbe.jpg?v=0

Archel (Archel), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

That is hilarious!

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Archel, she looks great! What a little reader...

Best of luck with the pumping. I pumped for the 3 weeks the Alex was in the hospital when he was born; it's a lot of work. Come to think of it, Alex also did the Black Power salute a lot when he was a baby...

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 22 December 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

what a dear! and yes good luck, don't hesitate to call your local la leche league for help! the website is good too!

teeny (teeny), Friday, 22 December 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Pumping is as hard (if not harder) than breastfeeding. Tried it a couple of times but - bah - it was too hard so I switched to breastfeeding again. But keep trying! Every drop of breast milk helps her. :-) She seems so dreamy and cuddly. :-) Yay another ILXOR baby.

Very important question: are you feeling okay over there? I know how hard it can be those first weeks. If you need any support or whatever, email me stevienixed @ gmail dot com :-)

Gimme/email us your flickr account, I wanna keep seeing her! :-)

nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 22 December 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks Nath :)

The crap thing about pumping is that I'm seeing the amount coming out and it looks so feeble, which makes me anxious, which makes the milk less likely to come... so it's a vicious circle. But I'm getting there. And most of the time I'm on a total high despite it all :)

Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/20144310@N00/sets/72157594427098596/

Archel (Archel), Friday, 22 December 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Am I remembering right that the local La Leche League people here had some suggestions for increasing milk production? A beer or something before starting? Or was that for relaxation purposes...? It sesms like there is some kind of tea available in health food stores that is supposed to increase milk production as well. I'll ask my friend - who was a LLL leader - when she gets here to make cookies.

Also, I had a problem where I was so engorged at first that it seemed like the milk didn't want to come out. What helped was applying hot rags to my breasts with disposable diapers over them (to keep them warm) before pumping. Taking a hot shower or bath would likely do the same. (I don't know if that helps at all, but I suppose it can't hurt...)

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 22 December 2006 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, I think it's great that you're persisting in your breastfeeding efforts, Archel!

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 22 December 2006 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, this is per my friend, C., an ex-LLL leader:

The type of tea that is supposed to increase milk production is fenugreek. LLL doesn't recommend beer anymore due to the alcohol and also it isn't a substantiated thing that it increases milk production. Frequency of nursing should increase milk production.

I hope that helps some... if I think of anything else (or she mentions anything else) I'll post.

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 22 December 2006 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah heck, Archel, I'm MEGAproud you persist in giving breastmilk! Yes, you heard it, not only did I think you look so gorgeous with your belly - which I will now miss - I'm proud you are going through with it. I pumped as well and good golly those few times I didn't get any decent amount of milk out either. (This is someone who woke up in her hospital bed with a milk-soaked sheet.) The quantity doesn't matter, the fact you are giving your baby milk is what matters! And like Sara says, frequency will turn your breasts into gigantic milk factories. ;-) Don't give up! :-) I know how hard it is, you're tired and a little bit down (cause of not enough milk blabla) but in a few weeks you and your breasts will get the hang of it. :-)

Just heard an awful awful story... Woman being beaten, babies not really being treated well... It makes me so sad. :-(

nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 22 December 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

THANK YOU Sara! I will try fenugreek tea (my midwife recommended fennel) and warm baths definitely seem to get things moving so will continue with applying heat generally.

I miss my belly too Nath! Although I still have the sad deflated football version of it... I can't believe Alice came out of there to be honest.

Thanks for all your support - it will make getting up at 4am to feed/express that bit more endurable...

Archel (Archel), Friday, 22 December 2006 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

What a sweetpea! I've come over all clucky just now.

luna (luna), Saturday, 23 December 2006 00:13 (seventeen years ago) link

There needs to be a pass-around-the-babies FAP. A FAB.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 23 December 2006 02:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Beth, what a fun idea...

Archel - hope some of those ideas help! I totally remember getting up in the middle of the night to pump; my husband used to try to get up, too, so he could wash up the equipment afterward. One time I tried to get up quietly so he would get a bit of extra sleep and he got irritated with me. I was like, "one of us should be sleeping here!!!!" I think he got my point... otherwise, that whole first year is kind of a haze...

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Saturday, 23 December 2006 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i love these parenting threads. that pic with the library card is so cute!

Gem (gem ), Saturday, 23 December 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, had to post this.

Cutest swaddler ever:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/331222961_f7acbbf084.jpg

schwantz (schwantz), Sunday, 24 December 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, bless.

Did the cookie dash across SE London tonight with our homemade gifts for the neighbourhood mums, and received a few visits ourselves. What a lovely start to the holiday - especially the big, unprompted kiss from little Campbell when I dropped off their present.

Tallulah has finally dozed off, Ava has been down since her bath at 8pm.

A merry Christmas to you all!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 24 December 2006 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

My chidlren enjoying the Christmassyness of it all...
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/332614813_3fd84736f0.jpg?v=1167043708

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Parents!!!

Ned T.Rifle (Ned T.Rifle), Monday, 25 December 2006 10:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Ava with her primary gift:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/146/333146077_1553762b97.jpg

Ava rolling around in gift-saturated heaven:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/125/333143296_c4dca8edde.jpg

Ava showing Tallulah there's no hard feelings despite the clashing outfit faux-pas:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/125/333135029_42e71d6498.jpg

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 01:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Archel - I hope you are are having the BEST Christmas/Holiday ever. because everyone should be cuddling Alice and giving you presents...and a libation.

aimurchie (aimurchie), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 04:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Michael, what the hell are you doing having hijacked both my kid and partner's names for your own!

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 07:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey Michael, how's the camera? I'm growing FED UP with mine. :-( It doesn't react as quick as it should and when it's on camera mode it does preview first. BUMMAH. We bought a few presents for Ophelia. She LOVED the fischer-price house I had grown obsessed with. It was so darn cute seeing her ring the bell, open the postbox and also shyly smile at my FIL for assembling it. Nearly made me cry. She's turning into a real girl. :-)

However she's grown fed up with the formula milk so I think we'll need to introduce a *proper* breakfast and give the milk as a *side dish*.

nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 09:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Andrew - I had no idea there was a Tallulah in your life too! I obviously haven't been checking your Flickr photostream enough (I'll make you a "friend" and you can see a few more of the kids' pics). Maybe I've been subconsciously stalking you the whole time. ("Tallulah" was Pam's idea, I was lobbying for "Iris", but I've come round to it; Ava calls her "Yuyu", so Lulu it is).

I spent most of yesterday firmly in the "basic zone" on the 300D but I'll start experimenting with it a bit more today having had a peek at the manual. The top two above were taken with the 300D, the bottom one with the Ixus i. It's pretty great - God bless Pam, eBay and PayPal accounts linked to credit cards...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 10:35 (seventeen years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/133/333770954_eb76992edd.jpg?v=0

With the Fischer Price house.

I'm very keen to get myself a SLR camera - once I have saved up enough money - cause the one we have now is sooooo fucking slow to react! If I want to take a pic NOW, that doesn't mean five minutes later cause then O is somewhere ELSE. Grrr.

nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/163/333776354_63c01a1fc2.jpg?v=0

RInging the doorbell!

nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link

s4mmy, about to kick my butt this morning:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/164/333915379_a1d81dc58f_m.jpg

Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

S4mmy don't want no FAB.
I want a FAB! I almost passed out with joy seeing my nieces and nephew on Christmas eve.
I want a FAB/FAP - a cuddle and a pint.

aimurchie (aimurchie), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi aimurchie :)

Ah, nothing says Christmas like pacing the room with a crying baby at 3am... and yet mere hours later she looks so angelic:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/334185899_22bb9309ca.jpg?v=0

Oh and I love Ophelia's skirt nathalie.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I CANNOT BELIEVE that Ophelia is that big. I just can't. I'm sure I would be equally stunned by Louis (hint, hint). I just want to smooch her! Ava and Lulu are just gorgeous, and I would really really love to have a good cuddle with Alice.

You know, ILxors make some pretty good looking kids!

luna (luna), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh and I hadn't even seen the new picture! Oh isn't she precious? Matt looks so, so proud.

luna (luna), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Archel, how I miss those 3 AM trying to calm her down nights. NOT. :-) Seriously it was actually awesome: Being awake when everyone else was asleep and, aside from the cries, it was so quiet. :-) I have to say, you and daddy look positively AMAZING. I remember looking like complete SHIT. :-)

The skirt is from Mexx. Personally I love it, but I prefer Gap. Sadly (or luckily financially speaking) we don't have it here. My parents do send me stuff from Japan. I have warned'em once that I'm in Japan - in february eep! - I'll be going there on a shopping spree. :-)

Yeah, O is big, I know! Noone fucking told me that she'd be no longer a baby by the end of the year. BOOOHOOO. :-( But it's so much fun having her crawl around so much. :-) We're now decided to NAME EVERYTHING. She's been pointing at things like mad so I figure I better teach her what the things are. :-)

nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 09:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Things kids say:

On the way to the football yesterday we passed a horrible building that I happen to work in:

Mark (7): It's kind of dull looking isn't it Dad?
Me: Yes.
Mark: What does dull mean?
Me: Well you just used it correctly so you should know.
Mark: Dark?
Me: Yes, like the opposite of bright and colourful.
Mark: Okay... what does "YOU ARE GAY!" mean?

Onimo drank ALL the wine! (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 10:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Tell him it's a country in South America.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 11:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Matt looks like Good King Wenceslaus.
Alice looks cuddled.

Nathalie, those pictures of Ophelia are great, but I keep going back and looking at your excellent shoes. Square toed loafers? Give me your shoes.

aimurchie (aimurchie), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Those are my husband's shoes. :-)

nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link


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