Ableton Live "groove" functionality is shit

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So I'm noticing that the timing of the swing in Live (5.1) is really crap! I can't get anything to sound properly shuffled, it's either big band OTT doo-di-doo-di-doo-di or not there at all.

Is this just what happens when you switch from hardware (yamaha sequencer) to software? Is the timing on shuffle a known issue with Ableton, and what the fuck am I supposed to do to get a nice subtle delay on my dotted-8th+16ths?

TOM. BOT. (trm), Friday, 15 December 2006 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link

to the right if the thing saying 4/4 (or whatever) is a number, this is the "global groove". try adjusting that (to 20 maybe?).
or if you like fannying around : record midi stuff, quantize, then switch the fixed grid off & move stuff around freehand until you've got it sounding the way you want.

zappi (zappi), Friday, 15 December 2006 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

this seems as good a place as any:

is there a preferred piece of hardware for all of Live's knob twiddling?

baby wizard sex (gbx), Friday, 15 December 2006 23:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, the Monodeck.

naus (naus), Saturday, 16 December 2006 02:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Monodeck II is not for sale nor will it see mass production.

I have awe. I can't solder a bead smaller than a prize shooter, much less create a custom MIDI controller that not only works, but looks good on the job.

Oddly enough, staying here I saw seven golden bowls make cakes and religion (goo, Saturday, 16 December 2006 02:32 (fourteen years ago) link

holy shit that thing is awesome

baby wizard sex (gbx), Sunday, 17 December 2006 01:51 (fourteen years ago) link

zappi: I know that much, I just can't seem to find a happy medium between the under-25's and the over-25's and the swing 8 vs. swing 16 etc. fannying around is something I really believe I shouldn't have to do in this day and age. Maybe I'd be better off resampling shit and doing it with the fucking Warp markers. Ugh.

TOM. BOT. (trm), Sunday, 17 December 2006 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link

try just shuffling the hi hats and not the rest of the drums.

jodawo (jodawo), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 12:46 (fourteen years ago) link

That might do it but I want, like, a little 8th swing and a little 16th swing too. Maybe I should shuffle TWO sets of hi-hats. Ah fuck it.

If you ain't eatin' WHAM, you ain't eatin' HAM (trm), Friday, 29 December 2006 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Does Ableton now come bundled with sampler software?

earlnash (earlnash), Monday, 1 January 2007 08:39 (fourteen years ago) link

no you have to pay for it as an extra like operator, also I'm pretty sure you still need Audacity or summat for most soundfile editing functions

TOMB07 (trm), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

im happy with the behringer bcr2000 as a controller

^ (cb303), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 11:39 (fourteen years ago) link

anyone roll they own?

^ (cb303), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 12:01 (fourteen years ago) link

I like my wireless mouse personally

TOMB07 (trm), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

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