the new thing in spacy bleep techno

I like this stuff...I'd like some e-dancer style basslines to come back, that'd be cool.

haha all of these are in the latest mix I posted up at my blog...

carry on!

http://users.skynet.be/sky19290/jazzcover/part2/coltrane_new.jpg

redshape - "playground (original mix)" (amazing post-revelee synth madness)
zander vt - "then & before" (redshape remix) (endless percolations)

either that or clone record shop has the sides flipped!

wait I have an idea...

EPIK MNML IS SO 2009

but hey! there hasn't been anything like irdial before or after until now, so why complain?

between this and comparing de9 transitions to early-90s laurent garnier, i think you might need a hearing aid

http://loveanddancing.sitesled.com/africa_political.jpg

please don't try to tell me that Ø or TG would be better if their music was more "african".

Ø is PHI, right?

OK so you don't like the new carl craig sound. but you're not going to tell me why, other than that it is "lame assed", "weak assed" and lacks the proper amount of "africa".

where then should i be pointing my beaky noise for TRUE DANCE GROOVES?

also, put up ripperton's 10a & sleeper thief's full of you.

there aren't samples around the net with that beck villalobos remix? i need to hear...

The Hyperdelic Housers were to spawn the first underground label of Finland, Sähkö Recordings, whose central place was to be in Helsinki. During 1993 Sähkö ('Electricity') already published five 12":s. Early 1994 saw the first Sähkö CD, Metri by Mika Vainio, recorded as Ø (pronounced "ohm"). Before this, Mika had already published in 1991 the first Finnish techno album Mindprobe by Corporate 09 which then consisted of Vainio and Pertti Grönholm.

Anything else I can do for you, son?

^^ that means 8 ohms resistance through a wire with a diameter of 50 mm, different resistance measured with a thicker or thinner wire, right?

except mika vainio thought Ø was the same as ohm because he saw "ohm - Ø" all the time in his electronics manuals??

Reynold - Intercity

Big big big big tune!

Don't have the link, but have been actually meaning to find it again in the last few days.

I dunno, I don't mind some of the records being mentioned here, I don't mind stuff that leans towards trance either frankly but I'm not getting moist about the idea of this sound dominating the '07

(translation: me trusting ILM less & less for dahnce/electronic tips, real world carrying on regardless/oblivious, siegbran posting once or twice with the prole/non-hipster overview on things, nothing changing except fashion.)

isn't "percussive" a dead end in and of itself? (see: soundmurderer + sk1, late autechre, etc)

also if you're losing interest in electronic dance across the board - not just you don't like this stuff, but you also don't have a pet scene that you are repping for - it's probably nt the music, it's probably YOU

this is absolutely right! but if it went somewhere, it would lose the ache quality and the deepness, right?

that's sort of like saying "well i love free jazz, i just wish it had more structure"

A lot of mixes I hear are still very spectrum-covering - there's some spacey synth tunes, some allusions to bumping house, some deep disco, some prickly Anja Schneider/Sleeperthief stuff, some druggy house Fuckpony/Tuning Spork stuff, some insane tribal Guido Schneider style stuff... amidst all of this some spacey synth stuff sounds great and not particularly all-dominating/monomaniacal.

I mean, yeah, everyone loved Ame's "Rej" (the real "okay, this sound has arrived" moment), but everyone also loves the Villalobos remix of "The Sinner In Me", including Ame!

And really it's not like this is a new thing. These tunes are to 2007 as Superpitcher was to 2003/2004. People have been talking about "neo-trance" since 2002, and really it existed well before that - Hypercity is basically a Sasha & Digweed mix with more clicks and snaps.

There has always (well, throughout this decade) been a continuum of "smooth" trance/techno-ish stuff throughout this loose scene, just as there has been a continuum of screwy percussive stuff throughout the same period.

People get too focused on a slight sonic shift at one end or another and think it's the end/beginning of everything. Those sonic shifts are interesting and worth talking about (before mike t rushes in to colonise my argument) but not in such an all-or-nothing manner.

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I claim this arguement for Spain!

http://loveanddancing.sitesled.com/Conquistador.jpg

isn't "percussive" a dead end in and of itself? (see: soundmurderer + sk1, late autechre, etc) hmmm, I'm not sure I'm coming at this from an entirely "idm-microhouse don't die yet!" angle...

if it went somewhere, it would lose the ache quality and the deepness, right? it would?? isn't this just a lame & easy shortcut? isn't like tons of detroit techno achy/deep AND busy/banging?

I'm sure it is a lot of me w/r/t losing interest. I'll definitely still shill for Mobilee, Random Dubstep tunes, other bits & bobs... oddly enough there isn't really one! new! scene that's completely flicking my bean right now, but dilettante dabbling still turns up enough to keep me interested... I'll likely stumble on new mix/label/tune that refreshes my perspective on it all again tomorrow, it's usually the way!

I'm trying not to focus on this slight sonic shift really, or ascribe too wide a meaning to it. I'm simply a little frustrated that across the continuum so much of it seems to be chasing towards the same goal now (and yes, it's a little boring to me, maybe only in isolation but still). I need to find more of the stuff that isn't living in this niche (like The Field album! which I haven't heard yet tho' people complaining about it's "Ableton-ness" makes suspect I'll enjoy it, if that = ragged & underproduced).

i am actually kind of predicting yet ANOTHER acid house 303 revival this year, if stuff like "india in me" is any indication ...

A lot of mixes I hear are still very spectrum-covering - there's some spacey synth tunes, some allusions to bumping house, some deep disco, some prickly Anja Schneider/Sleeperthief stuff, some druggy house Fuckpony/Tuning Spork stuff, some insane tribal Guido Schneider style stuff... amidst all of this some spacey synth stuff sounds great and not particularly all-dominating/monomaniacal.

This is OTM, especially re the whole "deep house/minimal" thing but I have been thinking about this the last few days and I genuinely think this psychedelic house/techno could be quite a big deal and a good antithesis (ie not that dissimilar) to minimal...which probably needs to happen.

http://www.rekids.com/

very interested in the style of music on this thread

In terms of the regular discussion: India in Me just isn't that good, though it doesn't sound like what v says it does. I've said it before in other threads-- the love for this track baffles me over and over again. And I like some other Cobblestone Jazz.

On a similar note, Mouth to Mouth = If I wanted a bad handjob, I could get it from a cheap hooker.

"berghain" is great! i think i like it so much because of the way it rubs against everything else coming out right now.

i think what's also interesting is when this stuff strays from 4/4 territory and gets steppy like "space break" or the last few monolake releases (polygon_cities and the "plumbicon" single). the live in osaka "plumbicon" version fits pretty well with the general vibe of this thread.

i'm surprised no one has mentioned sleeparchive yet. or soundstream. "love jam" is a jam.

(sorry i am posting so much and so confusingly to this thread. i was at a bruce nauman exhibition all afternoon today and it did my head in.)

I think you are missing my point. Read this:

http://www.amazon.com/Turn-Beat-Around-Secret-History/dp/0571211941

When you get to the Eurodisco section and reference it with the earlier section regarding disco's roots in R&B you will understand what I am getting it. It is appropriate.

Yr otm re cobbbelstone jazz and brikha's new kompakt record.

Re: http://www.discogs.com/release/865485

More Jupiter Jazz and less thinly disguised trance plz. Everytime you listen to this crap The Interstellar Fugitives kill a kitten.

I think it's pretty much crotch/ass/pecs&arms most of the time.

i am partial to cheekbones though.

It depends on what kind of adjudication rights you're granted.

boomkat's review of new Aril Brikha,
Hardcore Transmat geeks of course might be up in arms about this twelve, but the partial salvation comes on the neatly turned out shapethrowing panorama bar tribute "Berghain". Opt for this side if in a tight corner, simply grin and bear the gloss and sheen of its all gone pete tong directed ibizan headache that is "Winter". Massive of course, but what a pity - one is left mulling what might have been, be certain Groove La Chord this is not.

:O :D

they're kind of right, it is an incredibly commercial sounding tune, but it (Winter) is also a total earworm. I like it a lot.

Thus, your point is still fucking stupid, imo.

Also he is really down on I Feel Love? In the book he calls it the perfect soul record, as powerful and complex as anything by Ray Charles, Marvin Gaye, and Al Green! His point is that it encapsulats the then-fascination with detachement/submission/anonymous sex/unreality/non-human so well, and does it all with this eerie etheral sexuality that was very alien at the time. I don't know what you are looking for him to say?

I think the thing with Peter Shapiro's book is that he describes things in what for others would be pejorative terms, but which in his own aesthetic are actually positive. This struck me most in the stuff on Hi-NRG. It makes it a weird read. I've posted this before, but here's him on the radio giving us the roots of Eurodisco. It's great. http://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/12195

Anyway, carry on ...

He wasn't and he made a distinction between the stuff that was good, Moroder and Cerrone for example, vs schlock like Frank Farian produced stuff like Boney M. Frank Farian also had hits in the late 80's with this band:

http://www.discogs.com/release/566577

I will give him credit for this tho. This is completely bonkers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khMJVz5BmVw

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/ilxdown/6.jpg

the nauman show made matthew barney finally click for me if that's saying anything vahid. a crucial show if you want to know what else was going on in the usa in the late 60s aside from pop or are interested in post-minimalist process type art (crucial for understanding the ableton set? only time will tell). well curated, very nice space in that museum. i will go back.

also, i just re-read the eurodisco chapters, and while he isn't totally biased against eurodisco, it's pretty hard to say that he is really into 'I Feel Love' (while saying it's a great soul record, he also calls it "sexless" and "campy," which are...well, negative). additionally, he sums the section up by saying that much eurodisco "rings rather hollow." which shows some *gasp* bias.

that said, after flipping through again, shapiro does frame things in rather pejorative terms, so my previous reading was a bit distorted.

that and david bowie is only sometimes sexless and hollow, lfam.

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is trance bullshit ?

im sure,i lke good trancy music
because is the music good than it makes no difference,if trance or not trance!
TRANCE Music can be really good if the compostion makes sense!.
All these bombasstic synthsizer have so much power when its really on fire !
But if its only for a progress with no sense than it can be so a "stoopidboring bullshit."
I really fucked up often when im in a club and djs playing only halfbeat basslines,you know what i mean
its like
humpa humpa humpa.humpa umpa umpa umpa umpa dede dede dededed
it can be really a funny thing,,when ark or others do it like this(sense of humor!)
But if its pathetic than it can be so horrorble&make people tired.
We still live in a world of druguser,and you never will listen to those kind of tracks when you at home!
If you`re on drugs your body&mindsytem is complete on a different level.
so is the music good you don`t need drugs to be on differnt level or higher level.
Is the music really good and you are on "Draks ! So you will you can fly in
"Space whatever,wherever............................its amazing how the music than feels.!

here my toptrancehits forever !
1.county&western - reincanation -?2.perry&rhodan - the beat is going straight on -rising high3.virtual symetry- discoverd theme -eye q4.delta lady- anything you want -hardhands5.laurent garnier -acid eifel -fnac6.marmion -schöneberg - mfs7.vapourspace-theme from vapourspace-plus 88.balil - parasight -rising high9.all the tz series - tz rec.10.modus venevendi - modus vevendi -warp rec.