Diplo can't hang in my minivan--the 2006 Dadrock thread

all songs considered (or whatever) pretty much defines dadrock, i think. whenever my mom (or some other old fart) sends me an email about the Hold Steady or something, a little part of me dies.

whenever my mom (or some other old fart) sends me an email about the Hold Steady or something, a little part of me dies.

oh boo fucking hoo, are you like 17?

well, yeah

well there you go...if you want to shock your parents you should prolly stop listening to band that sound like john cafferty & the beaver brown band fronted by elvis costello with a dude that looks like george costanzas lil bro as the singer.

have you looked into death metal? crunk?

matt: just making jokes, dude. will maps be playing at all soon? i'm gonna be back in the cities for a few days in about a week

nah we're kinda done for 06...been playing too much lately. some stuff in jan but that's it. we need new songz.

this story is practically a Steely Dan song in itself.

of course, xgau gave crunk extended play on npr a few weeks ago. lil jon is now dadrock. (and i'm a dad who listens to both npr and lil jon, so...there you go.)

dave brubeck

Do people even listen to NPR before they say stuff like this? I mean, by this definition Aesop Rock (and I'm pretty sure Ghostface) are "dadrock."

public enemy and whatever stuff i could see but damn

:/

Mike Morris & the Power Trip Morning Show: Bad nu-metal-ish stuff, classic hard rock (ac/dc etc)

PA & Dubay: classic 70s R&B, Sanford&Son theme, Good Times theme, Pick up the Pieces by Average White Band, Green Onions for the Sports Updates...UNLESS PA is gone and Dubay has the show, then it's Beatles, Zeppelin, Dave Matthews, Oasis

Dan "The Common Man" Cole - 70s stuff, has a wierd affection for the lost Eric Burdon & the Animals psych record "Sky Pilot", classic rock overall

Chad Hartman - A little more diverse, has a big thing for The Suburbs, old school Mpls new wave band that was probably big when he was in his early 20s

Bumper to Bumper w/Dan Barrero - Blues, some jazz, classic R&B (more Spinners style vocal groups)...seems to keep up to date on modern blues artists I haven't heard of...did mention Beefheart on air once (!!!)

Sludge & Lake - Lake likes classic era hip hop and newer groups with that vibe like Roots and Kanye...The Message by Furious Five is the into music...Sludge is OBSESSED WITH 311, also plays modern active rock crap I don't know..

(Of course, my Dad mostly listens to Sanskrit mantras.)

-- baby wizard sex (reduhnekkisssss...), December 16th, 2006.

hahaha

right like bashing npr isn't about the most boring thing you can do on ilx. (i bash it too sometimes -- it's pretty bashable -- but if i'm going to have people on my radio talking it's more likely to be that than anything else.)

keep on fighting the good fight, well-educated, middleclass urbanites!

as opposed to who else exactly is on ilx?

not that i object to the reflexive self-loathing of the bourgeoisie. it's probably a good thing. just don't miss the "self-" part.

i thought that was pitchfork/indie-rock bashing

Dads need a current generation of rockers.

Are most over-40 Petty/Mellencamp fans listening to Aesop Rock and Joanna Newsom or are they listening to John Mayer and Coldplay?

Bob Boilen, who picks out music for the bumper segments on NPR"s All Things Considered," played synths and keyboards for early '80s DC art-rock/new wave/punk band Tiny Desk Unit (I never liked 'em very much fwiw). Boilen also is in charge of NPR"S online 'All Songs Considered' which specializes in friendly indie-rock concerts.

this is an example of my Dad's humor when stone cold sober.

haha xpost grady maybe we are secretly brothers

awesome. do you get to blow the horn?

i love tug boats. we should have a tug boat thread.

This is how I felt when my uncle offered me some acetate by a bunch of junkies called the Velvet Underground when I was 10 years old. I thought the music was kidstuff. Now it's selling for five figures. Humanity has shitty taste.

A tug boat thread would be fun. I work on the mississippi river. I don't get to blow the horn though. I'm only a deck hand.

http://www.newswiretoday.com/news/11863/

The Music Box's Best Albums of 2006

1) Bob Dylan - Modern Times
2) Neko Case - Fox Confessor Brings the Flood
3) T Bone Burnett - The True False Identity
4) Elton John - The Captain & The Kid
5) Willie Nelson - You Don't Know Me: The Songs of Cindy Walker

6) Johnny Cash - American V: A Hundred Highways
7) Ray LaMontagne - Till the Sun Turns Black
8) Neil Young - Living with War
9) Pearl Jam - Pearl Jam
10) The Decemberists - The Crane Wife

11) Belle & Sebastian - The Life Pursuit
12) Mark Knopfler & Emmylou Harris - All the Roadrunning
13) Elvis Costello & Allen Toussaint - The River in Reverse
14) Josh Rouse - Subtitulo
15) The Stills - Without Feathers

more: http://www.musicbox-online.com/2006.html

My dad hates every band mentioned here except Steely Dan and maybe Dire Straits. Aren't most dad's (outside the ILM hemisphere) ornery about popular music? Rather, haven't most dad's solidified their musical tastes into a small well-worn petrified nugget of a handful of has-been stagnated artists? For instance, I can't imagine most fathers who listen to Steely Dan consistently have more than six CD's in their automobiles. And it's likely of those six you'd find Doobie Brothers, "Nightfly," Oh Brother Where Art Thou soundtrack, Larry Carlton, a beach music or Motown compilation, and Average White Band. This seems to me to be common dadrocking material. And because I don't believe that most dad's get anything new, other than new albums by familiar artists (but not similar artists), because they don't care and they simply don't like younger or newer artists, I kind of reject the notion of a dad rock genre. However, most of these bands listed sound like bands dad's would like. I'm surprised Wilco hasn't been mentioned because I would assume they would be Dadrock messiah's. Jeff Tweedy makes all his money playing solo shows for guys who had to beg their wives for a night off and get permission to drive into the city.

So, if dadrock is defined as "the music most dad's listen to," then I think this is all wrong. If we define it as, "band's that sound like dad's would like" then I think I understand (like fernandez said--always thought Dadrock was made by new artists trying to sound like Classic rock artists). I still can't imagine getting behind a fifty four year-old man in line at Best Buy saying to his daughter, "I really think that that Crane Wifey one or whatever was better than that picture one was. Your mother hates it though."

Would he be a corny old indiefart?

it's a fucking crime that this is only six songs long though! neil yr suck a dicktease!

12 minutes of down by the river makes me want to start smoking ganj again though....

Dadrock: rocking harder than punk and metal since 1970

Reading posts where anal people point out grammar flaws on a frickin message board is like tiny daggars in my anus...

No, real (American) dadrock at this moment is the stuff that was being put out 10-20 years later. Mid-to-late 80s and early 90s rock. Stuff that rockin' dads in their 40s grew up on and now wax all misty-eyed about in an attempt to grossitate their children:

U2
R.E.M.
Pavement
Guided By Voices
The Replacements

And, as others have mentioned, their musical offspring:

My Morning Jacket
The Hold Steady
Cat Power
Spoon
Drive-By-Truckers
Neko Case

REM and U2, sure...but what about Guns n' Roses, Crue, etc etc? those things SOLD like the old classic rock touchstones that formed the original dadrock.

I mean, if yr gonna add 90s alt rock stuff, it should be Nirvana and Pearl Jam, etc, not Guided by Voices.

Reading posts where anal people point out grammar flaws on a frickin message board is like tiny daggars in my anus...

hey, when you quote someone, could you put their statement in quotes? thanks.

And could everyone capitalize the first word of each sentence, please?

dude i don't even use capital letters*. my message-board standards are low. but apostrophe-plurals is like COMMUNICATIONS TERRORISM. someone has to take a stand.

* = except to emphasize phrases like COMMUNICATIONS TERRORISM.

he always told me to check out crown of creation by jefferson airplane but i never have.

But "Comstock" is the rich man's Hongro!

(U2, though, yes, totally U2.)

Dadrock is a term of mild derision. In geeky internet discussions, it's useful for sneering at once-hip bands with a certain measure of perma-cred that are nonetheless starting to feel a bit long in the tooth. Especially if the bands in question were rather dangerously pleasant to begin with.

Hence, Pavement.

haha! that's an awesome phrase! that's exactly the sentiment behind dadrock!

"This music is dangerously close to something a normal person might actually enjoy...it must be hunted down and destroyed"

Bear in mind that the old Knopfler/Seger/Petty/Springsteen contingent are now Granddad rockers.

Criteria:

1. Debut must have been in the 1990s or 2000s*
2. Must sell respectably. Need not be Hootie-esque sales figures, but dads are too busy to be listening to the likes of Pavement or Archers of Loaf side projects.
3. Must not use too many synthesizers or samplers or any other fruity instruments. Dads like guitars.

In no order:

Ryan Adams (but preferably Whiskeytown)
Wilco
*Jayhawks (debut was in 1989 but we'll let them slide)
Neko Case
Five For Fighting
Radiohead
Decemberists (#1 NPR record of the year automatically gets you in)
Paul Westerberg
Coldplay
Pete Yorn

i don't believe the jayhawks are a band anymore.

http://www.dave-matthews-band.us/photos/band%202.jpg

Whose Dads are we talking about? I was assuming the term referred to Dads of people who are old enough to make fun of "Dadrock," i.e Dads of people in their teens and twenties, not 27-year-olds who are new fathers? Points taken though.

xpost

(my dad once described Joe Cocker as "young people's music". JOE COCKER!)