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Albums

50 The Kooks - Inside In / Inside Out
49 Absentee - Schmotime
48 Get Cape. Wear Cape. Fly – The Chronicles of A Bohemian Teenager
47 Wolfmother – s/t
46 Semifinalists – s/t
45 Bob Dylan – Modern Times
44 Isobel Campbell and Mark Lanegan – Ballard of The Broken Seas
43 Beck – The Infromation
42 The Automatic – Not Accepted Anywhere
41 The Gossip – Standing In The Way of Control
40 Midlake – The Trials Of Van Occupanther
39 The Young Knives – Voices Of Animals and Men
38 Metric – Live It Out
37 Be Your Own Pet – s/t
36 Datarock – Datarock Datarock
35 Forward Russia – Give Me A Wall
34 Albert Hammond Jr. – Yours To Keep
33 The Bronx – s/t
32 Lily Allen – Alright, Still
31 The Sunshine Underground – Raise The Alarm
30 Cat Power – The Greatest
29 The Spinto Band – Nice and Nicely Done
28 Morrissey – Ringleader of The Tormentors
27 Clap Your Hands Say Yeah! – s/t
26 Jarvis – That Jarvis Cocker Record
25 Mogwai – Mr Beast
24 Secret Machines – Ten Silver Drops
23 The Knife – Silent Shout
22 The Flaming Lips – At War With The Mystics
21 The Raconteurs – Broken Boy Soldiers
20 The Streets – The Hardest Way To Make An Easy Living
19 The Longcut – A Call And Response
18 The Rapture – Pieces of The People We Love
17 The Futureheads – News and Tributes
16 Amy Whinehouse – Back To Black
15 Thom Yorke – The Eraser
14 TV On The Radio – Return To Cookie Mountain
13 Panic! At The Disco – A Fever You Can't Sweat Out
12 The Killers – Sam's Town
11 Howling Bells – s/t
10 My Chemical Romance – Welcome To The Black Parade
09 Kasabian – Empire
08 The Strokes – First Impressions of Earth
07 The Long Blondes – Someone To Drive You Home
06 Gnarls Barkley – St. Elsewhere
05 CSS – Cansei De Ser Sexy
04 Hot Chip – The Warning
03 Muse – Black Holes and Revelations
02 Yeah Yeah Yeahs – Show Your Bones
01 Arctic Monkeys – Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not

Singles

50 Larrikin Love – "Happy As Annie"
49 Pull Tiger Tail – "Animator"
48 The Young Knives – "She's Attracted To"
47 Howling Bells – "Setting Sun"
46 TV On The Radio – "Wolf Like Me"
45 Secret Machines – "Alone, Jealous and Stoned"
44 Regina Spektor – "Fidelity
43 The Rumple Strips – "Motorcycle"
42 Kelis – "Bossy"
41 The Sunshine Underground – "Put You In Your Place"
40 The Rapture – "Get Myself Into It"
39 The Strokes – "You Only Live Once"
38 Muse – "Knights Of Cydonia"
37 Panic! At The Disco – "I Write Sins Not Tragedies"
36 Kasabian – "Empire"
35 Dan Sartain – "Replacement Man"
34 To My Boy – "I Am X-Ray"
33 Nelly Furtado – "Promiscuous"
32 Mates of State – "Fraud in the 80's"
31 Be Your Own Pet – "Adventure"
30 Ali Love – "K Hole"
29 The Dresden Dolls – "Back Stabber"
28 Hot Chip – "Boy From School"
27 Primal Scream – "Country Girl"
26 Maps – "Lost My Soul"
25 The Flaming Lips – "The Yeah Yeah Yeah Song"
24 Lupe Fiasco – "Kick, Push"
23 Midlake – "Roscoe"
22 Muse – "Starlight"
21 Gnarls Barkley – "Smiley Faces"
20 Jarvis – "Running The World"
19 The Streets Ft, P . Doherty – "Prangin' Out"
18 Justice Vs Simian – "We Are Your Friends"
17 Klaxons – "Atlantis To Interzone"
16 The Holloways – "Generator"
15 The Long Blondes – "Once and Never Again"
14 The Raconteurs - "Steady, As She Goes"
13 Arctic Monkeys – "When The Sun Goes Down"
12 Metric – "Monster Hospital"
11 Klaxons - "Gravity's Rainbow"
10Yeah Yeah Yeahs – "Cheated Hearts"
09 The View – "Wasted Little DJ's"
08 The Horrors – "Sheena Is A Parasite"
07 Amy Whinehouse – "Rehab"
06 CSS – "Let's Make Love and Listen To Death From Above"
05 Gnarls Barkley – "Crazy"
04 Muse – "Supermassive Black Hole"
03 The Gossip – "Standing In The Way Of Control"
02 Peter Bjorn and John ft. Victoria Bergsmen – "Young Folks"
01 Hot Chip – "Over and Over"

Mitchell Stirling (MitchellStirling), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Good call on the Peter Bjorn and John ft. Victoria Bergsmen track otherwise a bit meh, Strokes at #8 is a joke surely?

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:39 (seventeen years ago) link

haha, over half the top 10 singles are actually good! though the four which aren't are hideous. 'young folks' needs to die.

curious to see 'bossy' in there.

lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:39 (seventeen years ago) link

It's nowhere near as bad as Q's WORST LIST EVER IN THE WORLD EVER, but it's still pretty predictable. Agreed on The Strokes being a joke.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I was gonna buy this as I usually buy this once a year issue. But i dont think i'll bother.
I have 3 albums in that top 50.

pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:43 (seventeen years ago) link

wow winehouse at 7?

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:43 (seventeen years ago) link

ARCTIC YEAH MUSE

[electric sound of] esteban buttez (Estie Buttez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think I can put Hot Chip high up on my lists now :-(

[electric sound of] esteban buttez (Estie Buttez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:44 (seventeen years ago) link

hot chip remixes >>>> hot chip

winehouse is great.

lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:45 (seventeen years ago) link

albums i own:

44 Isobel Campbell and Mark Lanegan – Ballard of The Broken Seas (pretty but mimsy; inessential)
41 The Gossip – Standing In The Way of Control (brilliant title track; can't remember what the rest is like)
30 Cat Power – The Greatest (rather lovely actually)
23 The Knife – Silent Shout (GENIUS)
16 Amy Winehouse – Back To Black (GREAT)
06 Gnarls Barkley – St. Elsewhere (still not bothered to listen to, must rectify)
05 CSS – Cansei De Ser Sexy (three great songs, the rest is shit indie)
02 Yeah Yeah Yeahs – Show Your Bones (i really like this)

singles i approve of:

44 Regina Spektor – "Fidelity
42 Kelis – "Bossy"
33 Nelly Furtado – "Promiscuous"
28 Hot Chip – "Boy From School" (the erol alkan rmx is SO GOOD)
24 Lupe Fiasco – "Kick, Push"
18 Justice Vs Simian – "We Are Your Friends" (though HELLO 2003)
10 Yeah Yeah Yeahs – "Cheated Hearts"
07 Amy Winehouse – "Rehab"
06 CSS – "Let's Make Love and Listen To Death From Above"
05 Gnarls Barkley – "Crazy"
03 The Gossip – "Standing In The Way Of Control"
01 Hot Chip – "Over and Over"

lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link

hot chip are good live too, sophie and i ate HOT CHIPS while dancing around

lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:50 (seventeen years ago) link

how do i eat hot chip

does it contain msg or mp3????

[electric sound of] esteban buttez (Estie Buttez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:53 (seventeen years ago) link

"Young Folks" is one of the year's best singles. You need to die, not the record.

Of the NME's Top 50 albums, precisely three will appear in my CoM Top 50; the lowest crossover ever.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:55 (seventeen years ago) link

"Over And Over" would probably be in my top ten singles (if I compiled such things) but the album is suboptimal.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Obviously there's no point whatsoever in debating whether this is a good list or a bad list I really like all three of their top three singles, blimey, and five of the top ten. Quite surprised by the low placing of The Raconteurs, I thought they'd have the NME jizzing all over them.

Lex did you actually hear We Are Your Friends in 2003 or are you just posing? Note - "I first heard it in 2005 like everyone else" is not a valid answer.

Also, should I poll the top 20 singles in the other place?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I have ten of the albums, and have heard probably ten more in full. It's possible the other 30 could be awesome.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 09:59 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe early 04

and yes but not yet because my top 20 singles are currently a 200-strong MESS

xp

lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:00 (seventeen years ago) link

No they're not; one thing you learn when you work as a "music journalist" is how such lists are frequently glorified thank-yous to the four or five PR companies who service the magazines in question (Nick S xpost).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Of the NME's Top 50 albums, precisely three will appear in my CoM Top 50; the lowest crossover ever.

Cat Power, The Knife and Amy Whinehouse?

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:05 (seventeen years ago) link

At least there's no Joanna Newsom.

David (grammy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:06 (seventeen years ago) link

No they're not; one thing you learn when you work as a "music journalist" is how such lists are frequently glorified thank-yous to the four or five PR companies who service the magazines in question (Nick S xpost).

I can see how that could happen, and in fact nearly had a piece in The Guardian this coming Friday that runs tangentially to that issue. I can assure you that the Stylus list wont be put together that way.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:06 (seventeen years ago) link

No they're not; one thing you learn when you work as a "music journalist" is how such lists are frequently glorified thank-yous to the four or five PR companies who service the magazines in question.

World shaken on its axis by this sensational news. DJ Martian dies in apoplectic rage.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Well I don't want Nick to have to waste good money on thirty deeply average albums just because of favours done to NME writers.

Surprised about the omission of Newsom.

Bill - one out of three.

I'm looking forward to the Stylus list.

The CoM list isn't going to pretend to be anything other than the fifty albums which I personally liked best in 2006 - it is NOT a Definitive Overview - but I can assure readers now that no favours have been involved in its compilation and that everything is there on merit alone.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I am, however, VERY surprised at the non-appearance of Scritti.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not.

I can assure you that the Stylus list wont be put together that way.

Yeah, like anyone in Music PR has ever heard of Stylus. BURRRRRNED!

[electric sound of] esteban buttez (Estie Buttez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I was about to make a similar joke in a much funnier way but now I won't bother, because I sort of feel dirty.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I wasn't going to buy any of the NME 30, just in case you thought I'd had some kind of cerebral haemorrhage.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, like anyone in Music PR has ever heard of Stylus. BURRRRRNED!

Considering the 1,300 unread emails in my Stylus account telling me what KT Tunstall and J Dilla are up to next week, some of the bastards must have.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:19 (seventeen years ago) link

What is KT Tunstall up to next week?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i would love to see one of the emails telling you what j dilla is up to next week

lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Obviously there's no point whatsoever in debating whether this is a good list or a bad list

QFT

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Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:24 (seventeen years ago) link

that's not actually what j dilla is up to next week though! i was hoping you would be clearing up the MYSTERY OF AFTERLIFE

lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Obviously there's no point whatsoever in debating whether this is a good list or a bad list

QFT

There is, if we define what we consider a "good NME list" to be. And the two lists that spring to mind for me are the ones from 1996 and 2000, because both of them suprised me, neither pandered to a scene, and they each had several record included, and highly, that I thought were great.

2000
1. Queens Of The Stone Age – Rated R
2. Primal Scream – Exterminator
3. PJ Harvey – Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea
4. Badly Drawn Boy – The Hour Of Bewilderbeast
5. At The Drive-In – Relationship Of Command
6. Coldplay – Parachutes
7. Eminem – The Marshall Mathers LP
8. Doves – Lost Souls
9. Super Furry Animals – Mwng
10. Kelis – Kaleidoscope
11. Radiohead – Kid A
12. Granddaddy – The Sophtware Slump
13. Lambchop – Nixon
14. Yo La Tengo – And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside Out
15. Teenage Fanclub – Howdy!
16. Godspeed You Black Emperor! – Levez Vos Skinny Fists Comme Antennas To Heaven
17. Elliott Smith – Figure 8
18. The For Carnation – The For Carnation
19. The Go-Betweens – The Friend Of Rachel Worth
20. Richard Ashcroft – Alone With Everybody
21. Wu-Tang Clan – The W
22. Delta – Slippin’ Out
23. Broadcast – The Noise Made By People
24. Six By Seven – The Closer You Get
25. Jeff Buckley – Mystry White Boy
26. Bell And Sebastian – Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like A Peasant
27. Smog – Dongs Of Sevotion
28. The Delgados – The Great Eastern
29. The Dandy Warhols – Thirteen Tales From Urban Bohemia
30. The Kingsbury Manx – The Kingsbury Manx
31. Two Lone Swordsman – Tiny Reminders
32. Johnny Cash – American Iii: Solitary Man
33. Shellac – 1000 Hurts
34. Marilyn Manson – Holy Wood (In The Valley Of The Shadow Of Death)
35. Sigur Ros – Agaetis Byrjun
36. Ghostface Killah – Supreme Clientele
37. Paul Weller – Heliocentric
38. Leila – Courtesy Of Choice
39. Asian Dub Foundation – Community Music
40. Black Box Recorder – The Facts Of Life
41. David Holmes – Bow Down To The Exit Sign
42. Outkast – Stankonia
43. Clinic – Internal Wrangler
44. Amen – We Have Come For Your Parents
45. Ryan Adams – Heartbreaker
46. Magnetic Fields – 69 Love Songs
47. Madonna – Music
48. Q-Tip – Amplified
49. Grand Drive – True Love And High Adventure
50. Gorky’s Zygotic Mynci – The Blue Tree

1996

1. Beck - Odelay
2. Manic Street Preachers - Everything Must Go
3. Orbital - In Sides
4. Super Furry Animals - Fuzzy Logic
5. DJ Shadow - Endtroducing
6. Screaming Trees - Dust
7. Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Murder Ballads
8. Tricky - Pre-Millennium Tension
9. Rocket From The Crypt - Scream, Draculs, Scream!
10. Sparklehorse - Vivadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot
11. The Bluetones - Expecting To Fly
12. Suede - Coming Up
13. Placebo - Placebo
14. Kula Shaker - K
15. The Boo Radleys - C'mon Kids
16. REM - New Adventures In Hi Fi
17. Babybird - Ugly/Beautiful
18. Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup
19. The Divine Comedy - Casanova
20. Aphex Twin - Richard D James
21. Fun Lovin' Criminals - Come Find Yourself
22. Fugees - The Score
23. The Lemonheads - Car, Button, Cloth
24. Beth Orton - Trailer Park
25. Ash - 1977
26. New Kingdom - Paradise Don't Come Cheap
27. Nicolette - Let No One Live Rent Free In Your Head
28. Alex Reece - So Far
29. Ghostface Killah - Ironman
30. Gallon Drunk - In The Long Still Night
31. The Afghan Whigs - Black Love
32. Tiger - We Are Puppets
33. Plug - Drum 'N' Bass For Papa
34. Baby Fox - A Normal Family
35. Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die
36. The Black Crows - Three Snakes And One Charm
37. Underworld - Second Toughest In The Infants
38. Sebadoh - Harmacy
39. Animals That Swim - I Was The King, I Relay Was The King
40. Lilys - Better Can't Make Your Life Better
41. Nas - It Was Written
42. The Olivia Tremor Control - Dusk At Cubist Castle
43. The Cardigans - The First Band On The Moon
44. John Parish/Polly Harvey - Dance Hall At Louse House
45. Red Snapper - Prince Blimey
46. Radar Brothers - Radar Brothers
47. The Future Sound Of London - Dead Cities
48. Dodgy - Free Peace Sweet
49. Urusei Yatsura - We Are Urusei Yatsura
50. Spice Girls - Spice

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:27 (seventeen years ago) link

that's not actually what j dilla is up to next week though! i was hoping you would be clearing up the MYSTERY OF AFTERLIFE

In heaven you sell hats, dude, is that not enough?

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:27 (seventeen years ago) link

These top 50 albums are fare better than Q's.
Albums I have and I don't hate:

40 Midlake – The Trials Of Van Occupanther
39 The Young Knives – Voices Of Animals and Men
37 Be Your Own Pet – s/t
36 Datarock – Datarock Datarock
32 Lily Allen – Alright, Still
28 Morrissey – Ringleader of The Tormentors
27 Clap Your Hands Say Yeah! – s/t
26 Jarvis – That Jarvis Cocker Record
23 The Knife – Silent Shout
18 The Rapture – Pieces of The People We Love
17 The Futureheads – News and Tributes
08 The Strokes – First Impressions of Earth
07 The Long Blondes – Someone To Drive You Home
05 CSS – Cansei De Ser Sexy
02 Yeah Yeah Yeahs – Show Your Bones

inkei bence (zeus), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Albums I have/have heard:

44 Isobel Campbell and Mark Lanegan – Ballard of The Broken Seas (a bit dull)
25 Mogwai – Mr Beast (not bad, but not up to former glories)
22 The Flaming Lips – At War With The Mystics (not bad, but not up to former glories)

Singles I have heard (I don't buy singles)

33 Nelly Furtado – "Promiscuous" (feh. shite.)
29 The Dresden Dolls – "Back Stabber" (good, but not one of the album's strongest)
25 The Flaming Lips – "The Yeah Yeah Yeah Song" (best song on the album)
20 Jarvis – "Running The World" (excellent in its weary anger)
13 Arctic Monkeys – "When The Sun Goes Down" (briefly surprised that it was better than I expected. still not my bag though)
07 Amy Whinehouse – "Rehab" (sweeeeeeeeeet! one of the year's best singles)
06 CSS – "Let's Make Love and Listen To Death From Above" (nowehere near as good as the title, and nowehere near as good as death from above)
05 Gnarls Barkley – "Crazy" (strong song, but not enough to make me check out the album. and I sold my gnarls tickets once the support band pulled out)
04 Muse – "Supermassive Black Hole" (one of their weaker efforts)

maybe NME isn't the mag for me anymore.

mister the guanoman (m the g), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i think the 2000 nme list is pretty dreadful considering the amazing stuff which was happening in hip-hop and r&b at the time, it's got this major HEAD IN SAND feel about it.

lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:32 (seventeen years ago) link

"nowehere near as good as death from above"

o'boy.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:36 (seventeen years ago) link

were you a big rnb fan in 2000, the lex?

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:36 (seventeen years ago) link

The 2000 NME list is good, also the year was pretty classic too.
(I was that post above with 4, wrong registration)

zeus (zeus), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:36 (seventeen years ago) link

hip-hop and r&b has never really been NME's focus though...in the same way that metal has never been its primary concern.

mister the guanoman (m the g), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah the 2000 list screams 'lack of editorial direction'. Not as bad as the 99 list though. The 2001 list is great though.

(We have trawled through these in depth on Poptimists in case you're wondering)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:37 (seventeen years ago) link

"nowehere near as good as death from above"
o'boy.

-- temporary enrique (miltonpinsk...), December 6th, 2006.

whoa nelly.

mister the guanoman (m the g), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:37 (seventeen years ago) link

it's a great title only DFA (band) are so shit.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I disagree entirely.

mister the guanoman (m the g), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:39 (seventeen years ago) link

11. The Bluetones - Expecting To Fly
12. Suede - Coming Up
13. Placebo - Placebo
14. Kula Shaker - K

Come on Nick this is as bad as going Killers-Razorlight-Muse-Kasabian in 2006. Possibly worse.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:40 (seventeen years ago) link

i think the 2000 nme list is pretty dreadful considering the amazing stuff which was happening in hip-hop and r&b at the time, it's got this major HEAD IN SAND feel about it.

You could say that, Lex, and I'd expect you too, only NME isn't a hiphop or r'n'b magazine, but Outkast, Ghostface and Eminem are in there, and I believe Missy got single of the year in 2001. It's head-in-sand, yes, but the nearest thing to Lex-music in the album list 2006 is Lily Allen.

Several Xs.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Please, don't mention Suede in the same sentence with Razorlight or Killers & Co.

zeus (zeus), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Funny thing is I recall the mag itself, over the course of 2000, being a lot more inclusive than that would suggest. I think Kelis and Destiny's Child had front covers as well as that IBIZA V AYIA NAPA WHO WILL WIN thing. The EOY poll is where Marcello's point abt the PR co's comes in, I think, but in fairness there is a lot of albums in there I still think really hold up (ie the indiest ones on the list haha)

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:42 (seventeen years ago) link

It is, Matt, but that's four, and look - Orbital and DJ Shadow top 5! Imagine that happening now!

Looking at the 1999 and 2001 lists and while the former is better than the latter, they're both much more adventurous than 2006. Lack of editorial control isn't a bad thing if it introdues people to a wider range of good music! Unfortunately NME's remit isn't as a public servant.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:43 (seventeen years ago) link

i think "lack of editorial direction" (which the nme definitely had in 2000-01) was kind of a GOOD THING only they didn't really figure out how to write about rnb etc. but they did cover it, and that was a good thing.

xpost hivemind

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:44 (seventeen years ago) link

This little run has too many The's.

23 The Knife – Silent Shout
22 The Flaming Lips – At War With The Mystics
21 The Raconteurs – Broken Boy Soldiers
20 The Streets – The Hardest Way To Make An Easy Living
19 The Longcut – A Call And Response
18 The Rapture – Pieces of The People We Love
17 The Futureheads – News and Tributes

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:46 (seventeen years ago) link

were you a big rnb fan in 2000, the lex?

my first ever favourite song was 'i love your smile' by shanice in 1991, i have never not loved r&b! got into hip-hop properly around...'99 i think? still catching up on 90s stuff.

You could say that, Lex, and I'd expect you too, only NME isn't a hiphop or r'n'b magazine, but Outkast, Ghostface and Eminem are in there

yeah, this has long been a bugbear though, rock mags never admit they're genre mags and insist that they cover the entirety of popular music, precisely by inserting a couple of token genre picks like this.

Funny thing is I recall the mag itself, over the course of 2000, being a lot more inclusive than that would suggest.

i remember reading the sentence "forget white boys with guitars, black women with computers are making the best music in the world" in the nme back then! i wonder when the regressive shift back occurred, and why.

lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:47 (seventeen years ago) link

It occurred in Autumn 2001 when The Strokes hit.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes but Nick exactly the same argument was raging in 1996. The 86 list is far more diverse and adventurous than the 96 list.

The question is whether this is JUST the NME becoming increasingly conservative or whether it reflects an increasingly conservative market.

i remember reading the sentence "forget white boys with guitars, black women with computers are making the best music in the world" in the nme back then! i wonder when the regressive shift back occurred, and why.

The regressive shift probably occurred due to its readership going 'fuck that' and IPC noticing that Aaliyah on the cover sold a hell of a lot fewer copies than Oasis on the cover.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:50 (seventeen years ago) link

presumably the shift ('regressive' is debatable) occurred simply because the magazine's readership didn't agree, and conor is all about the benjamins, baby.

mister the guanoman (m the g), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:50 (seventeen years ago) link

err...ditto.

mister the guanoman (m the g), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:51 (seventeen years ago) link

But even in 2001 we get Aphex, Basement Jaxx, Daft Punk, Missy, Bjork, Boredoms(!), Beanie Sigel, Four Tet, Aaliyah, N*E*R*D, Oxide & Neutrino, Kurupt, Cannibal Ox, Sizzla and Gorillaz, dude! That's nearly 30%!

The market has got WAY more conservative in the last five years, certainly. But we've also got THE LONG TAIL to consider now.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Nick, its because since 2001 guitar music has become far more fashionable therefore the editorial team know exactly who their market is an how to pander to them.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:54 (seventeen years ago) link

The more I think about it the more awesome it is that Orbital were #3 ten years ago! There's nothing equivalent *anywhere* in this year's top 50

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:54 (seventeen years ago) link

The years between 1996 and 2001 were not so good for white boys with guitars, simple as that. And the NME lists show that too.

zeus (zeus), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i remember reading the sentence "forget white boys with guitars, black women with computers are making the best music in the world" in the nme back then! i wonder when the regressive shift back occurred, and why.

i was gonna bring this up, it's one of the defining moments for the nme. it's a fucking stupid sentence really, so arrogant and forgetful. it's precicely an example of the nme thinking it covers all music, of that delusion. it says 'we the nme have just heard of computers and black people, in 2001'.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:56 (seventeen years ago) link

there was definitely a time when the strokes and destiny's child seemed to be co-existing quite happily in the nme; i'm still not convinced that the strokes (who seem to be completely forgotten these days) were the start of the current indie revival, they seem very different beasts to futureheads, kaiser chiefs, kasabian, my chemical romance et al. (infinitely preferable, too, and i never liked the strokes.)

lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Also I really doubt even the NME still holds the pretence of covering 'all music'. It's transparently a magazine for 16-21 year old indie kids and very rarely pretends otherwise. Exhibit a = anti-emo standpoint (despite MCR in the Top 10).

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:56 (seventeen years ago) link

The years between 1996 and 2001 were not so good for white boys with guitars, simple as that. And the NME lists show that too.
-- zeus (zeus...), December 6th, 2006.

crack is some bad shit!


temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I forgot to mention at the top of the list after last years debate about bumping Bloc Party up it said that the list is done by getting lists of 20 from writers #1 gets 20, #2 19 and so on, pen, calculator and we have a list.

I've heard 25 of those, maybe half of which would feature on my top 50 for the year.

No Razorlight on either list which is odd but welcome, nor Guillemots which isn't IMO.

Raconteurs won MOJO album of the year.

Mitchell Stirling (MitchellStirling), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:57 (seventeen years ago) link

We have had this discussion before. Indeed I believe my first ever post to ILM was on the exact same topic.

I note in passing that no Scritti Politti album has EVER appeared in any NME end-of-year list.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Nick, its because since 2001 guitar music has become far more fashionable therefore the editorial team know exactly who their market is an how to pander to them.

And that pandering may well be why their market isn't expanding. I think there's too much pandering. In all sorts of areas and ways.

Double X - Lex, The Strokes redefined an aesthetic for guitars, taking it from Verve/Oasis/Radiohead British ROCK maximalism to a scratchy, post-punk pseudoartrock zone. It's evolved since then, but they began it. Prior to them, there was nothing like that for years in NME's zone. QOTSA? ATDI? No way.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:58 (seventeen years ago) link

futureheads, kaiser chiefs, kasabian, my chemical romance

But most of these bands appeal to different people! I'm pretty sure there's minimal overlap between the MCR and Kasabian fanbases.

I note in passing that no Scritti Politti album has EVER appeared in any NME end-of-year list.

I'm pretty sure the album that came out c. 1999 did. Can't remember what it was called though.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:59 (seventeen years ago) link

The more I think about it the more awesome it is that Orbital were #3 ten years ago! There's nothing equivalent *anywhere* in this year's top 50
-- Feargal Hixxy (lackofinteres...), December 6th, 2006.

as is well documented, i haven't much given a shit about nme of music in general since the 90s, but what's so weird about orbital being top three in an alternative music magazine? 'the box' was a big hit; 'satan' (in early '97) and uh 'the saint' -- also hueg. surely they sold more than cancer the sexy?

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 10:59 (seventeen years ago) link

And Lex, as I've mentioned to you before, The Strokes influence isn't as much in their music (although Nick is right upthread) but in the fact that they made guitar music fashionable not just in a Music For The Kids way but also in a Proper Style Press way. The perception of the music totally changed as a result.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

The years between 1996 and 2001 were not so good for white boys with guitars, simple as that. And the NME lists show that too.

Hmm, one of the chart stattos on here might be better fielding this one but there were a fuckload of indie bands in the top 10 throughout 96. Bluetones and Suede and Placebo and Kula Shaker seemed to me to be really, really popular, on the Radio 1 A-list etc, and I don't even want to think about how many tabloid front pages Oasis had (while for all that they were still thought of as an 'indie' band, just one which had mutated into something Mothra-like and insane)

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmm, one of the chart stattos on here might be better fielding this one but there were a fuckload of indie bands in the top 10 throughout 96. Bluetones and Suede and Placebo and Kula Shaker seemed to me to be really, really popular, on the Radio 1 A-list etc, and I don't even want to think about how many tabloid front pages Oasis had (while for all that they were still thought of as an 'indie' band, just one which had mutated into something Mothra-like and insane)

-- Feargal Hixxy (lackofinteres...), December 6th, 2006.

OK, than let it be '97 and 2001.

zeus (zeus), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:03 (seventeen years ago) link

And that pandering may well be why their market isn't expanding. I think there's too much pandering. In all sorts of areas and ways.

i couldn't agree more with this, except apply it to the music press - not even that, THE MEDIA IN GENERAL. so many publications seem so afraid that people might stop buying them - it seems desperate, this constant following of demographics in an attempt to give people what they want and no more.

lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Enrique I said "awesome" not weird! It was my favourite album of the year

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:03 (seventeen years ago) link

um lex your main shit is albums machine-tooled in exactly this way.

zeus -- no.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Anomie And Bonhomie.

I've just rechecked the 1999 list and it's not in there (Matt xpost).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Lex, it's because the magazine industry in general is overcrowded, volatile and fragile. Most of them have a 'stick to what you're good at rather than competing on other people's terms' line.

Also with the NME its not that sales are expanding, its that they're relatively stable in an otherwise contracting sector. I think Kerrang!'s still growing and that has an even more tightly-defined brand than NME. And no one's moaning about the lack of rnb in the Kerrang top fifty.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:06 (seventeen years ago) link

hip-hop and r&b has never really been NME's focus though...in the same way that metal has never been its primary concern.

Prince, Public Enemy and De La Soul all topped NME EOY album lists in the 80s tho

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah if you try and think back to NME (and others) circa 99-2000 they threw their indie hat in the ring with bands like Shack and, I dunno, Alfie. It's not hard to figure out why they jumped on The Strokes like they did

xpost to Zeus

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link

zeus -- no.

-- temporary enrique (miltonpinsk...), December 6th, 2006.
?

zeus (zeus), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link

what feargal said. also terris.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:08 (seventeen years ago) link

...and qotsa topped it in 2000. aberrations...deviations from the morrissey/joy division/radiohead-fellating miserabilist indie guitar core.

mister the guanoman (m the g), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:09 (seventeen years ago) link

um lex your main shit is albums machine-tooled in exactly this way.

i want different things from music and writing, oddly enough

Lex, it's because the magazine industry in general is overcrowded, volatile and fragile. Most of them have a 'stick to what you're good at rather than competing on other people's terms' line.

yeah, i know all the reasons and they make commercial sense and if you're all about the £££ which all mags are then there's no reason to do it otherwise, but it's still annoying because it still smacks of desperation. no leadership!

lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, than let it be '97 and 2001.

Urban Hymns, OK Computer, Be Here Now, Tellin' Stories, In It For The Money, Vanishing Point, Evergreen, Blur, etc.

White boys with guitars were coining it in in '97.

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but sincerely, who bought Terris, King Adora or Shack records? No one did, guitar music was simply not fashionable then. Except Travis, Coldplay, etc., but it was not music for kids, they always made music for 20 or 30somethings.

zeus (zeus), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:12 (seventeen years ago) link

And Shack didn't?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Urban Hymns, OK Computer, Be Here Now, Tellin' Stories, In It For The Money, Vanishing Point, Evergreen, Blur, etc.

White boys with guitars were coining it in in '97.

-- nu_onimo (gerry.wat...), December 6th, 2006.
Vanishing Point is rather an electronic record, not guitar, and all of the bands you mention have been in the business since '93-94, there were no newcomers to the scene. That's my point. In 1997 almost everyone claimed listening dub, triphop and jungle, from Bowie to Brett Anderson.

zeus (zeus), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Also worth noting that in both '98 and '99 the #1's were Mercury Rev and The Flaming Lips, both very much Uncut reader bands compared to the trends in the magazine in the years before and after. Even Spiritualized's #1 in 1997 is more of an 'adult' record then Radiohead and especially The Verve.

Mitchell Stirling (MitchellStirling), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:18 (seventeen years ago) link

guitar music was not fashionable in the way the strokes were during that period (c. 98-01), but the nme still covered it and probably sold ok. maybe king adora et al sold poorly but the strokes weren't massive, it was more of a zeitgeist thing.

it also covered other tings, but they never felt 'at home', quite; but then the nme is partly a local rag, covering local bands, gossip fresh from camden, etc.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:18 (seventeen years ago) link

25 The Flaming Lips – "The Yeah Yeah Yeah Song"

i still don't get how anyone can like this

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:18 (seventeen years ago) link

No-one said anything about newcomers, you said it wasn't a good year for white boys with guitars and I was pointing out that it was arguably a fucking great year for white boys with guitars. Be Here Now was a fucking monster seller. OK Computer and Urban Hymns were huge.

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:19 (seventeen years ago) link

xxxposts

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:20 (seventeen years ago) link

mercury rev and flaming lips weren't full-fledged uncut bands till a bit later, ditto spiritualized who even steven wells liked. and rly 16 minute songs about why won't that girl talk to me, hey drugs are a bit like love innit -- really more 'adult' than radiohead?

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:20 (seventeen years ago) link

As exhaustively explained on the other thread it all comes down to the C86/hip hop wars in the NME of the mid-'80s which C86 won.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:24 (seventeen years ago) link

It was never really a war. Or rather, it was never a level playing field.

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:26 (seventeen years ago) link

the Strokes changed how men dressed -- official.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe true but I bet the NME didn't shift many extra units by having Spiritualized, Mercury Rev, The Flaming Lips and probably QOTSA on the front compared to The Strokes, Coldplay, White Stripes, Franz, Bloc Party and now Arctic Monkeys.

x-post

Mitchell Stirling (MitchellStirling), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but sincerely, who bought Terris, King Adora or Shack records? No one did, guitar music was simply not fashionable then

I was agreeing with you, ie they backed a lot of horses which seem faintly ridiculous now.

Mercury Rev weren't a big band in 98-99, and they were much more of a 'Melody Maker band' in their first incarnation than they were an 'NME band' circa Deserter's Songs

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:27 (seventeen years ago) link

and IPC noticing that Aaliyah on the cover sold a hell of a lot fewer copies than Oasis on the cover.

I still have trouble accepting this sort of thing. I know teenagers can be fickle but I don't remember buying or not buying a music magazine purely based on who was/wasn't on the cover myself - at least not a dedicated magazine like NME where you're more in it for the NME itself not who was in it that week. Perhaps that idea collapsed because of the internet I dunno. I think it's more just that Conor M and others deduced that they could sell MORE copies every week by narrowing the focus and sensationalising things more like a celeb gossip mag, rather than significant drop in sales every time a non-rock artist was on the cover (like maybe only ever 6 times in any given year anyway).

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:29 (seventeen years ago) link

onimo: I get your point, but still feel '97 as a turnover year for guitar bands, Be Here Now was a simple backlash of Britpop, and after that Oasis would never been the same. 'OK Computer' started everyone to aping Radiohead instead of Oasis, and it was more an "art rock" record than simple guitar pop. Even Blur's '97 album was a bit experimental, and after that '13' was a very difficult thing, and not a guitar record.
Of course, there were always some succesful guitar records, but the climate between '97 and '01 were not good for them.
Also, I live in Europe and not the UK, but those period guitar music was the most unfashionable thing here you can think of.

zeus (zeus), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:30 (seventeen years ago) link

c-mac lost readers year on year for quite a long time iirc! nme bands are all about interviews and my recollection of nme's attempts at interviewing outkast, missy, and janet in 2001 was a LOT of 'gonzo' my-PR-people-hell shit and very little of the kind of thing nme readers have liked since morissey: shit-stirring, lily allen-style. why would internationally successful acts with no vestige of indie values (a la coldplay, oasis) bother with a 60,000 circulation inkie? they wouldn't and didn't.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:32 (seventeen years ago) link

1997's definitely a swing year - a postBritPop BritProg sojourn that only lasted 12 months. The Radiohead imitators, Muse aside, are not prog.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Has the Plan B list come out yet?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:34 (seventeen years ago) link

lol

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:35 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah enrique otm. the kind of feature (raw, lengthy, un-PRed, easy access, gossipy, part of a scene) nme wants from the artists it covers is not the kind of feature it was ever going to get from destiny's child, aaliyah, missy or any big american act really, especially those who operate in a completely different way to the rock format.

lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:36 (seventeen years ago) link

who was the first artist to be on the cover of NME without having had an actual interview in the paper that week?

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh it was definitely the twilight year of britpop goodwill but there was still enough around to make some serious cash for the artists I mentioned.


xp to gzeus

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link

who was the first artist to be on the cover of NME without having had an actual interview in the paper that week?

Stone Roses? About 142 times?

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Elvis Presley, chums!

M Grout (Mark Grout), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:40 (seventeen years ago) link

ELVIS LIVES REMEMBER HIM THIS WAY: I remember the cover well.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I was looking for that cover and found this instead:

http://i17.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/78/ac/eda9_1_b.JPG

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:51 (seventeen years ago) link

(from 6th December 1986)

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:52 (seventeen years ago) link

'on this day in history'

looks interesting actually!

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link

terris were a great, great band. like scritti politti they never made an end of year list. also i think the death of melody maker played a part, going as it did just what 6 months before the first tremors of the strokeopalypse, it seemed to me in that millenal era that melody maker would always go straight for the BWG's jugular putting for instance Toploader on the cover, though they did put kittie on the cover and er the dum dums... anyway nme had a bit more freedom to be a bit cooler. if ipc had given MM an 18 month reprieve i wonder what would have happened?

acrobat (acrobat), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link

The MY PR INTERVIEW HELL approach to interviewing was never a r&b only thing, Placebo and Belle & Sebastian covers to the NME in 1998/9 went exactly the same way.

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:54 (seventeen years ago) link

5 good albums and 6 good singles. score! yay for maps and the young knives

electric sound of jim (electric sound of jim), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I still have trouble accepting this sort of thing. I know teenagers can be fickle but I don't remember buying or not buying a music magazine purely based on who was/wasn't on the cover myself - at least not a dedicated magazine like NME where you're more in it for the NME itself not who was in it that week.

But Steve most magazine buyers don't really think like you! Also, the people who will buy the NME week in week out no matter what aren't the concern here. It's that they'd have been able to pick up more extra readers on top of that through putting Oasis on the cover rather than Aaliyah.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Also found this:

http://www.rockofages.uk.com/stock/6902.jpg

(5 DEC 1981)

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Danny Baker's Ringo interview in that issue is one of the funniest things I've ever read.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Michael McDonald, Kool Moe Dee, Nik Kershaw, Phil Cool - how more authentically 1986 can you get?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Cilla Black had an NME cover in the mid 80s as well, did the NME not hitch their colours to th

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:01 (seventeen years ago) link

e Comic Strip/Saturday Night live mast as quickly as I'd have assumed, then?

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:02 (seventeen years ago) link

86 = Bit late in the day for Kershaw though?

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:02 (seventeen years ago) link

ha ha i have several king adora records

electric sound of jim (electric sound of jim), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Neil Kinnock would be nice as well.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:02 (seventeen years ago) link

But Steve most magazine buyers don't really think like you!

Really? How do prove/disprove this? I suppose I would have to actually buy some magazines first.

It's that they'd have been able to pick up more extra readers on top of that through putting Oasis on the cover rather than Aaliyah

I did already touch on that - so as said before it was all just some marketing logic breakthrough that hadn't occurred to previous editors of the paper because either they weren't losing so many readers over time, they weren't as encouraged to care about this and/or they were too busy actually putting together a relatively decent and varied magazine. If only they'd realised sooner you could've had Morrissey on the cover every week from 1984 to 1991, Cobain from 91 to 96 and then Liam G until 2001 with the occasional allowance for Tiny Ultrasound naturally.

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Also the thing about that 1996 end of year issue is that it had FATHER TED on the cover.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:04 (seventeen years ago) link

didn't ipc get bought out by time warner at some point?

acrobat (acrobat), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Mark S confirmed that the Cilla Black NME cover was the biggest selling issue ever!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:05 (seventeen years ago) link

my analysis:

Abysmal - just hearing it makes my blood boil [7]

50 The Kooks - Inside In / Inside Out
42 The Automatic – Not Accepted Anywhere
20 The Streets – The Hardest Way To Make An Easy Living
16 Amy Whinehouse – Back To Black
13 Panic! At The Disco – A Fever You Can't Sweat Out
10 My Chemical Romance – Welcome To The Black Parade
01 Arctic Monkeys – Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not

Mediocre - ignore it's just ordinary or not my thang [26] - over 50 % of the NME 50 !

49 Absentee - Schmotime
48 Get Cape. Wear Cape. Fly – The Chronicles of A Bohemian Teenager
47 Wolfmother – s/t
46 Semifinalists – s/t
45 Bob Dylan – Modern Times
44 Isobel Campbell and Mark Lanegan – Ballard of The Broken Seas
41 The Gossip – Standing In The Way of Control
39 The Young Knives – Voices Of Animals and Men
38 Metric – Live It Out
37 Be Your Own Pet – s/t
35 Forward Russia – Give Me A Wall
34 Albert Hammond Jr. – Yours To Keep
33 The Bronx – s/t
32 Lily Allen – Alright, Still
31 The Sunshine Underground – Raise The Alarm
30 Cat Power – The Greatest
29 The Spinto Band – Nice and Nicely Done
27 Clap Your Hands Say Yeah! – s/t
21 The Raconteurs – Broken Boy Soldiers
19 The Longcut – A Call And Response
12 The Killers – Sam's Town
09 Kasabian – Empire
08 The Strokes – First Impressions of Earth
06 Gnarls Barkley – St. Elsewhere
03 Muse – Black Holes and Revelations
02 Yeah Yeah Yeahs – Show Your Bones

Radio Listenable - included on my year albums tracking last [12]

43 Beck – The Infromation
36 Datarock – Datarock Datarock
28 Morrissey – Ringleader of The Tormentors
26 Jarvis – That Jarvis Cocker Record
24 Secret Machines – Ten Silver Drops
22 The Flaming Lips – At War With The Mystics
18 The Rapture – Pieces of The People We Love.
17 The Futureheads – News and Tributes
11 Howling Bells – s/t
07 The Long Blondes – Someone To Drive You Home
05 CSS – Cansei De Ser Sexy
04 Hot Chip – The Warning

Approve [5]

40 Midlake – The Trials Of Van Occupanther
25 Mogwai – Mr Beast
23 The Knife – Silent Shout
15 Thom Yorke – The Eraser
14 TV On The Radio – Return To Cookie Mountain

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:05 (seventeen years ago) link

WIN the new Mo'Wax compilation:

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temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Kool Moe Dee, once described by Frank Owen in MM as the Nick Cave of rap.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:07 (seventeen years ago) link

ha ha, i don't know why i never bought the MM

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:07 (seventeen years ago) link

dear god that midlake album is overrated

electric sound of jim (electric sound of jim), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:07 (seventeen years ago) link

"not my thang" dj m, i thinks you should maybe er say this to yourself everytime you see an nme thread.

acrobat (acrobat), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:10 (seventeen years ago) link

score:

32 Lily Allen – Alright, Still (heard, ugh)
23 The Knife – Silent Shout (own & love)
20 The Streets – The Hardest Way To Make An Easy Living (heard, eek)
15 Thom Yorke – The Eraser (don't own yet, will get... sometime)
04 Hot Chip – The Warning (heard, meh)
01 Arctic Monkeys – Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not (like in some ways, grudgingly)

PISS POOR list! NME I mean...

What was the one everyone was slating before? Uncut? Even that might have been more adventurous...

Lily Allen below Morrissey? OOH BURN!

Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't even get the impression THEIR OWN FANS were exactly set on fire with excitement about the latest Muse & Yeah Yeah Yeahs efforts? Christ.

Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Dylan came top of the Uncut poll.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:22 (seventeen years ago) link

But, was that any less predictable that Arctic Monkeys? I admit 'adventurous' is being abused by using the term it so relatively w/r/t both of these lists of course.

Da Mystery of Sandboxin' (fandango), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Remember that at the beginning of 2006 NME voted the Arctic Monkeys album the fifth greatest album ever made so they could hardly put it in fifth place in this poll, could they?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:53 (seventeen years ago) link

DVD's of the year

1) Pixies - loudQUIETloud
2) Foo Fighters - Live London/Hollywood
3) Nirvana - Live! Tonight! Sold Out!
4) Walk The Line
5) Glastonbury
6) Arctic Monkeys - Scummy Man
7) Dirty Pretty Things - Puffing on A Coffin: Live At The Forum
8) My Morning Jacket - Okonokos
9) PJ Harvey - On tour
10) Maxïmo Park - Found ON Film

Games

1) Guitar Hero II
2) Gears of War
3) Dead Rising
4) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
5) Call of Duty 3
6) The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
7) Locoroco
8) Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories
9) Singstar Rocks!
10) Pro Evolution Soccer 6

Books

1) Dirty Blonde - The Diaries of Courtney Love
2) The Libertines Bound Together
3) The Best of Smash Hits
4) Punk Rock: An Oral History
5) Dylan on Dylan
6) Redemption Song: The Definitive Biography of Joe Strummer
7) Pet Shop Boys Catalogue
8) Pete Doherty: My Prodigal Son
9) Popjustice books
10) Stand & Deliver: The Autobiography - Adam Ant

Comps

1) Oasis - 'Stop The Clocks'
2) PJ Harvey - Peel Sessions
3) Various Artists - Rough Trade 30 Years
4) The Clash - Singles
5) Various Artists - Digital Penetration
6) The La's - The La's At The BBC
7) Various Artists - CD86
8) The Charlatans - Forever
9) Various Artists - Kitsune Maison 2
10) various Artists - John Peel: Right Time, Wrong Speed

Reissues

1) Pulp - His 'n' Hers / Different Class / This Is Hardcore
2) Wire - Pink Flag
3) Manic Street Preachers - Everything Must Go
4) The Cure - Head On The Door
5) The Jesus and Mary Chain - Pyschocandy
6) Brian Eno/David Byrne - My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts
7) Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
8) Various - Forever Changing: The Golden sound of Elecktra Records
9) Julian Cope - Jehovakill
10) Monty Python - Various reissues

Lest We Forget

1990 Pills' N Thrills and Bellyaches
1991 Nevermind
1992 Copper Blue
1993 Debut
1994 Definitely Maybe
1995 Maxinquaye
1996 Odelay
1997 Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space
1998 Deserter's Songs
1999 The Soft Bulletin
2000 Rated R
2001 Is This It
2002 A Rush Of Blood To The Head
2003 Elephant
2004 Franz Ferdinand
2005 Silent Alarm

Mitchell Stirling (MitchellStirling), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:59 (seventeen years ago) link

quick trivia question:

which of the lead singers behind the 1995, 2002 and 2003 winners is the odd one out?

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Jack White to my knowledge has no connections whatsoever with the Conservative Party.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 13:26 (seventeen years ago) link

it's good but it's not right

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 13:28 (seventeen years ago) link

lest we previously forget:
1989 De La Soul - 3 Feet High And Rising
1988 Public Enemy - Nation Of Millions
1987 Public Enemy - Yo! Bum Rush The Show
1986 Prince - Parade
1985 JAMC - Psychocandy/Tom Waits - Rain Dogs (tie for first place)
1984 Bobby Womack - The Poet II
1983 Elvis Costello - Punch The Clock
1982 Marvin Gaye - Midnight Love
1981 Grace Jones - Nightclubbing
1980 Joy Division - Closer

Seven polls out of ten topped by black artists.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 13:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Black people were better in the 80s, simple as.

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link

More novel. Less likely to buy a house near you.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 13:39 (seventeen years ago) link

the answer to my question was, boringly, that of the three Chris Martin is the odd one out as he is only married to someone who has appeared in Hollywood movies rather than appearing in one himself (tho surely it's only a matter of time).

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 13:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Lenny Henry increased the gaiety of the nation with his Theophilus P Wildebeest character.

xp

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 13:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm glad no-one ever sampled his 'katunga katunga (ahhha ahhha)' thing

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link

What's more predictable? NME with Arctic Monkeys at No. 1 or Stylus with Girls Aloud at No. 1?

[electric sound of] esteban buttez (Estie Buttez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 13:45 (seventeen years ago) link

the latter is really unlikely estie

acrobat (acrobat), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Highest black persons by year

1990 3 (Fear of a black planet)
1991 7 (Original Gangster) [Blue Lines at 6]
1992 11 (Hypocrisy is the greatest luxury) [Black Crows at 10]
1993 8 (Black Sunday)
1994 20 (Muse Sick 'N' Hour Mess Age) [Protection at 13]
1995 1 (Maxinquaye)
1996 8 (Pre-Millennium Tension)
1997 18 (Wu-Tang Forever) [Cornershop at 6]
1998 9 (Jurassic 5) [Mezzanine at 5]
1999 17 (N***A Please)
2000 10 (Kaleidoscope)
2001 4 (The Blueprint)
2002 14 (In Search Of…)
2003 8 (Spekerboxxx/The Love Below)
2004 7 (The Grey Album) [Kanye West at 8]
2005 8 (Late Registration)
2006 6 (St. Elsewhere)

I may have missed some higher than that but you get the idea.

Mitchell Stirling (MitchellStirling), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

the latter is really unlikely estie

I wouldn't put it pass them!

[electric sound of] esteban buttez (Estie Buttez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm glad no-one ever sampled his 'katunga katunga (ahhha ahhha)' thing
-- sede vacante (n...), December 6th, 2006 1:44 PM. (later)

He's still doing the 'ahhha ahhha' as of 2 weeks ago...

M Grout (Mark Grout), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link

er there was a black person at no 1 last year.

acrobat (acrobat), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha!

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link

nobody said there wasn't

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i was refering to Highest black persons by year

acrobat (acrobat), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

well he did warn he may have missed some

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:02 (seventeen years ago) link

the answer to my question was, boringly, that of the three Chris Martin is the odd one out as he is only married to someone who has appeared in Hollywood movies rather than appearing in one himself (tho surely it's only a matter of time).

Not exactly Hollywood, but he was in Shaun of the Dead.

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway why have this 'omg where are the black people' thing every year? It is now THIRTEEN years since a woman topped the list (Meg White and Martine Toppley-Bird don't count).

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Black people are cool, women are for breeding Steve. This is music crit 101.

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Rush Of Blood... still jumps out to me as a bizarre anomally amongst all the other winners.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Some other trivia tip: highest Jewish artists per year, Asian people ever listed, and erm... who was the first Asian at No. 1 at an NME list?

zeus (zeus), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

The brutal campaign to get Ebony Bones to #1 next year starts...never.

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Somebody get Lily Allen posting up in this bitch! (le xpost)

[electric sound of] esteban buttez (Estie Buttez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:08 (seventeen years ago) link

You can still rock a crowd when you're wearing stilettos.

xp

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Guys guys guys, when are we going to have a Mongolian at No. 1? OK, I know the blacks and the women have had a hard time...but the Mongolian Pop Scene has it worse!

[electric sound of] esteban buttez (Estie Buttez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

who was the first Asian at No. 1 at an NME list?

I remember ADF's 'Community Music' getting 10 out of 10 in NME but I'm not sure it made the respective EOY list (if it did it was quite low down for a 10/10 - obv. you take individual views into account but still).

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

that la's sessions album must be great, every review i've read has been hyperbolic. i mean u know condsidering it's like a *sessions* album. and by the la's.

pisces (pisces), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Unless you're obese, then you're not even on Muse's level. (xpost)

[electric sound of] esteban buttez (Estie Buttez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:10 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a SESSIONS album by THE LA'S. Of course it's going to be fan-fucking-tastic. (I still await my suggested boxset...)

[electric sound of] esteban buttez (Estie Buttez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

The lack of Iraqi music on this list PROVES that NME are patsies for Bush.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I remember ADF's 'Community Music' getting 10 out of 10 in NME but I'm not sure it made the respective EOY list (if it did it was quite low down for a 10/10 - obv. you take individual views into account but still).

-- sede vacante (n...), December 6th, 2006.

And what about the drummer of Bloc Party?

zeus (zeus), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, no Bendigo Funk Brothers on the list. BUT WOLFMOTHER GOT ON THERE.

See, it really is a conspiracy.

[electric sound of] esteban buttez (Estie Buttez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Cornershop made #5 in the 1997 album list.

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Community Music is on 2000's list.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

How come Cypress Hill is black music but Mezzanine or WIWBF7TT or Silent Alarm isn't prope black music, which is what I think you're implying?

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

And what about the drummer of Bloc Party?

Drummers don't count either! Seriously tho I guess people complain because of this idea that what Bloc Party actually look like is irrelevant because of their sound - or rather they could be making that kind of music but look and be from the same backgrounds as Coldplay quite easily. There's a cultural fetishism thing at work here where the complaint about 'black people' not topping the polls anymore is really shorthand for music other than conventional (whether punk or blues-influenced or otherwise) rock not topping the polls/lists.

In NME's case the narrowed remit assures the continuation of this (it's quiet possible a female-fronted act will top a future list of theirs but it will continue to seem v unlikely until it actually does happen, Beth Ditto's coolness not withstanding).

Likewise, the only way non-white people are likely to be seen at the top of lists such as the NME's will be by making conventional rock, such is their strict preference.

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Drummers don't count either!

Are you Geir?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Boo Radleys' drummer was a black dude.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

And Ocean Colour Scene.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

And Showaddywaddy

pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Who cares what the drummers of conventional rock bands (not inc. Showaddywaddy) look like?

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Who cares?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

The drummers mums.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link

nah mate, hook hairs. hairs for hooks.

ronnie barker (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link

There used to be a rumour that the Showaddywaddy drummer was the father of paul Ince. Sadly it wasn't true.

pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link

stevem is otm -- it's not about these bands having black members (ok it is a bit) but about the musical conservatism.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

well uh nice trip round the houses people

acrobat (acrobat), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Showaddywaddy's drummer was Romeo Challenger. If you're going to be a drummer that's the kind of name you want to have, not Steve White or Dave Rowntree.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

that's a real lead singer name tho.

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i mean isn't the drummer 'supposed' to be boring?

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Depends whether he's playing riffs or hooks.

Also, Showaddywaddy had two drummers.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

(It's actually the singer from Bloc Party you mean, not the drummer)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i think duder was saying the drummer was asian (but i don't think he is...)

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

(you mean people see a black man in an otherwise white band and think he must be the drummer?)

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Matt Tong (born April 29, 1979 in Bournemouth, UK) is the drummer for English art rock band Bloc Party. He is Half Chinese and Half English.

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

So considering that 6/7% (by most estimates) of the UK populace is Indian/Pakistsani/Bangladeshi/Sri Lankan, why aren't they in the charts?

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link

[thats_racist.gif]

xp to myself

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link

So considering that 6/7% (by most estimates) of the UK populace is Indian/Pakistsani/Bangladeshi/Sri Lankan, why aren't they in the Premiership?

variant-fixd

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Why do pakistanis never want to rock or tackle?

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Sales of bhangra etc. largely not in chart return shops.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Same with film charts innit

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Tesco have announced plans to have aisle sections focussing solely on Polish import food recently. Would it be worth HMV doing the same in certain cities?

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Sales of kielbasa etc. largely not in chart return shops.

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Given the generally lamentable standard of HMV shops outside of Oxford Circus, that sounds unlikely (xpost).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, in central and north London at least there's money being made by guys putting on club nights that play Polish music and fly in Polish chart acts for PAs, surely someone's gonna wake up to that in the physical music industry at some point?

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha!

We had a gig cancelled because the venue had decided to put on a Polish disco instead.

Jamie Smith (Jamie T Smith), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

And the Libertines!

M Grout (Mark Grout), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Big Polish contingent in Streatham if HMV fancy opening up a branch here.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

It's official: ILM just loves the NME. 200+ new posts in under six hours, what other conclusion can I draw?

may as well join the fun.

own and utterly adore: 24 Secret Machines – Ten Silver Drops
own and am extremely disappointed by: 25 Mogwai – Mr Beast
have heard some of, wtf is this three-chord, unoriginal, boring-as-fuck, outdated, dangerously conservative shit: 45 Bob Dylan – Modern Times
have heard some of, wtf, MUCH worse than their previous 2 records: 03 Muse – Black Holes and Revelations
ditto: 22 The Flaming Lips – At War With The Mystics
have heard some of, wtf: 01 Arctic Monkeys – Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not
have heard some of (actually, i own, but wtf), this is obviously pretty good but really i'm getting bored can i leave now pleeeease: 15 Thom Yorke – The Eraser
want to purchase: 14 TV On The Radio – Return To Cookie Mountain, AND THAT ALONE.

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Do you like Polish people Louis? Did they install your dad's swimming pool on time and on budget, or were they too busy going to these discos?

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Gordon Brown will cash in on this influx with a Pole Tax.

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

PUT YOUR HANDS UP FOR DOM PASSANTINO -- HE LOVES POLES

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

atishoo.

M Grout (Mark Grout), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

PUT YOUR HAND UP DOM PASSANTINO -- PULL OUT POLE

nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

omg lol 'end of year POLE'

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway, back to the poll (arf)

I remember being shocked at how , er, narrow, it was last year. Strangely, then, it seems kind of random this year. I guess because you still have that core of NME brand new rock revoluiton stuff, then it makes the more varied choices stand out more. Even though it's still quite, er, narrow.

Jamie Smith (Jamie T Smith), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

One million or so posts on Petridish - doesn't mean that we love him; quite the reverse.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

have heard some of, wtf is this three-chord, unoriginal, boring-as-fuck, outdated, dangerously conservative shit: 45 Bob Dylan – Modern Times

Louis, I do like you posting here but you do talk shit sometimes.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

(xpost for making bad gag after it had already been made)

Jamie Smith (Jamie T Smith), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

'Return To Cookie Mountain'...i dunno i liked their previous stuff but this sounded really kingsize MEH to me.

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Did they install your dad's swimming pool on time and on budget

...and on your other shoulder, there appears to be perched a computer hardware store!

that was my honest, genuine reaction upon hearing about 3-4 songs from 'Modern Times'. Sorry if I appear to lack ears.

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

PUT YOUR HANDS DOWN FOR BOB DYLAN - HE'S DANGEROUSLY CONSERVATIVE

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

PUT YOUR HANDS UP FOR LOUIS JAGGER- HE LOVES THIS ARISTOCRACY

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

put you hands up for graham pole - he's given three visas too many

acrobat (acrobat), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Modern Times is admirable in many ways, but on a musical level I'm afraid it just doesn't float my boat.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

PUT YOUR HANDS UP FOR KIELBASA- IT LOVES BEING THE SUBJECT OF A "COMEDY" "SONG" BY TENACIOUS D

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

your buttcheeks is warm

tenacious d >>>>>>> bob dylan

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

o no you di int

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

PUT YOUR HANDS UP IF YOU USE RIGHT GUARD

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

PUT YOUR HANDS DOWN IF YOU DON'T

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I refuse to take part in this meme until there is more waving one's hands about in a manner pertaining to someone not giving a fuck

tissp! (tissp!), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

PUT YOUR HANDS UP FOR PASSANTINO - HE LOVES THE FIST

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

louis otm about dylan! tedious fucking grandad with the voice of a busker. tenacious d are crap as well though, i raise you a PARIS HILTON >>>>>>>>>>> BOB DYLAN

lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

the scary thing is that i was only jestin' about tenacious d... :P

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Bob Dylan is a much better dancer than Hilton.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

yr dylan hate is not fitting the nu-lex's 'omm/uncut dude' profile (cf love for newsom, scritti).

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

well, i don't hate some dylan! blonde on blonde, for instance, is a brilliant album, one of my 60's top 5, completely made, i add, by the PUMP ORGAN which appears to be COMPLETELY ABSENT from 'modern times'. the sound he got back then was a very delicate, nostalgic, endlessly listenable one. modern times sounds like a good ol'-time bar-band, and i have MANY better things than that to listen to TYVM.

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd quite like to hear Paris Hilton with a good ol'-time bar band.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost: i.e. he was an innovator then, and knew it, but here he's a conscious reactionary. IT SHOWS.

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

i hate all dylan! newsom and scritti are completely different, they make good and interesting and moving music for one. also for all the furore over newsom's voice she has never ever plumbed the depths of irritating that dylan does on the regular, not even at her most infantile

lexpretend (lexpretend), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

What are the other four, Louis?

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

How does "nostalgic" evolve into "reactionary"?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

1) King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King
2) Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland
3) Bob Dylan - Blonde On Blonde
4) The Beatles - Magical Mystery Tour
5) Captain Beefheart w/Tralala choir and Orchestra - Trout Mask Replica

nostalgia is clearly a positive, wistful feeling, whereas reactionary sentiments repel what is new rather than clasp what is old to new's bosom.

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

paris hilton is a reactionary without having been nostalgic.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost: if only 1970 were allowed as well, then Soft Machine - Third and The Yes Album and Ummagumma would all be in there.

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I couldn't discern any "reactionary sentiments" on Modern Times.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

hey, that's a cruel trap! I was only talking about the difference between nostalgic and reactionary feelings in general. on the subject of 'modern times', it was the music that i felt to be reactionary, not necessarily the lyrics.

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

John Wesley Harding to thread.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

The Infromation

This must be that super-duper black market thing Beck did about 20th Century Nubian hair styling in L.A.

Ray Cummings (skateboardr), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

bands i haven't heard of before:
50 The Kooks
49 Absentee
48 Get Cape. Wear Cape. Fly
47 Wolfmother
46 Semifinalists
42 The Automatic
40 Midlake
39 The Young Knives
37 Be Your Own Pet
36 Datarock
35 Forward Russia
33 The Bronx
31 The Sunshine Underground
29 The Spinto Band
19 The Longcut
11 Howling Bells

any good?

a.b. (abanana), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Ugh what a foul list. Louis J OTN about Bob Dylan!

Ian Riese Morraine (acrobat), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

50 The Kooks- stage school indie, not as dreadful as they could be
49 Absentee
48 Get Cape. Wear Cape. Fly- Athlete meet Roni Size, goes for walk to Brighton
47 Wolfmother- The fucking pits
46 Semifinalists - Downloaded then forgotten what it sounds like, maybe Swedish?
42 The Automatic- student disco rockers, have a way with a chorus
40 Midlake- lol southall
39 The Young Knives- Ten a penny arty indie act
37 Be Your Own Pet- Jailbait boobs punkas
36 Datarock- Rubbish
35 Forward Russia- lol leeds lol
33 The Bronx
31 The Sunshine Underground- "new rave", sounds like the support act for Del Amitri circa 1994
29 The Spinto Band- lol sheffield
19 The Longcut
11 Howling Bells

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

All of these got sent to me unsolicited and I swiftly donated them all to the poor of the parish.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Did they send them back? (c)JohnPeel...

M Grout (Mark Grout), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

The Bronx aren't bad. They're also number one in Rock Sound magazine's top 75 albums of the year! Wild.

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

that Howling Bells single was OK

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I really liked the novelty Datarock single. Plus the followup was an actually reasonably Talking Heads knockoff.

tissp! (tissp!), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

The Sunshine Underground sound like The Music, but not as good!

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

i got caught there between "reasonable talking heads knockoff" and "reasonably good talking heads knockoff"

tissp! (tissp!), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Wolfmother = the ultimate Led Zeppelin tribute band, except not as good as that sounds.

I like Datarock.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

i might put 'Naive' in my top 100 songs of the year list, just for the uproar

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe the Lily Allen version, for maximum uproar (UPROAR!).

sede vacante (blueski), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Fuck this. I think this list is worse than the Q one, which was terrible. A complete imagination-bypass. The one from 2000 indicates the obvious alterations in market positioning which have occurred under the auspices of cunt-faced McNicholas.

Alex Williams (Gekkopel), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Cleverly the freebie Modular CD doesn't play on my CD player. I put it in the computer and it's a folder with a .wav file of each track in.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I should point out that Howling Bells is Quite Fucking Awful Australian Shit™.

[electric sound of] esteban buttez (Estie Buttez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I used to live next door to a family of Poles. THEY WERE FUCKING CRAZY!

Also, I hate Bob Dylan and every fucking single thing he's done.

[electric sound of] esteban buttez (Estie Buttez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I like Datarock too, but the album is 2005.

zeus (zeus), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't believe they rated that shitty morrissey album that high.

M@tt He1ges0n (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Fair play, only the second half is shitty. And it's more boring Mozzer-By-Numbers than shitty.

[electric sound of] esteban buttez (Estie Buttez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

BUT THE FIRST HALF IS ACE!!

[electric sound of] esteban buttez (Estie Buttez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

modern times is awesome.

it feels playful to me, not reactionary.

also, dylan's jokes are way funnier than tenacious d's.

M@tt He1ges0n (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost i was pretty let down by the moz...i really liked about half of you are the quarry.

i don't think there's a decent lyric or melody on the whole of tormentors...every time i finish listening to it, i can't recall ONE song i just heard.

M@tt He1ges0n (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I certainly can't remember anything on the second half. But the first half has "Dear God Please Help Me" and I'm sorry if I can't forget Morricone scoring the strings to La Mozza's Hot Roman Gay Sex.

[electric sound of] esteban buttez (Estie Buttez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

29 The Spinto Band- lol sheffield

try philadelphia

esoj@w3rk (esoj@w3rk), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 23:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Cleverly the freebie Modular CD doesn't play on my CD player. I put it in the computer and it's a folder with a .wav file of each track in.
-- Raw Patrick (rawsweate...), December 6th, 2006 8:51 PM. (later)

Umm doesn't that make it easier?

M Grout (Mark Grout), Thursday, 7 December 2006 09:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Not to play in my CD player, no.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 7 December 2006 10:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh right, just twigged.

Mmmm! Some big screwup I reckon! (Mine is the same)

M Grout (Mark Grout), Thursday, 7 December 2006 10:09 (seventeen years ago) link

no RAZORLIGHT ?? ace!

the big shock is the killers being so low. cause its rubbish. not that you'd have guessed it from the review 3 months ago.

pisces (pisces), Thursday, 7 December 2006 12:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i didn't even notice Razorlight weren't on either list. how did that happen?

sede vacante (blueski), Thursday, 7 December 2006 12:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Razorlight are the new Embrace in terms of reputation and media approval.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Thursday, 7 December 2006 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link

when did NME turn on them? thought they were their sort of thing

sede vacante (blueski), Thursday, 7 December 2006 13:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Live8, dude. Uncool. Also Johnny Borrel probably irked Conor one way or another.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Thursday, 7 December 2006 13:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Who are The Horrors and Metric?

Any ideas?

I bought a Sunshine Underground single, cos I liked the name, and they ARE rubbish.

I'm surprised ShitDisco aren't on the tracks list. Weren't they part of the NME tour thing that they do every year?
And if the NME can't even support their own manufactured scene, what the hell are they for?

Jamie Smith (Jamie T Smith), Thursday, 7 December 2006 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Borrel was one of the three artists to say 'fuck' in the afternoon at Live8 (Madonna and Snoop were the other two). I expect the NME took a dim view of this.

sede vacante (blueski), Thursday, 7 December 2006 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Because they didn't use the patronising Fook?

pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 7 December 2006 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link

The Horrors are a contrived Brighton gothpunkdisco mess. Metric are Canadian dancepopindie mates of Broken Social Scene.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Thursday, 7 December 2006 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link

The Horrors, funnily enough, are horrible. I can't say anything about Metric because I'm biased and have strange new feelings whenever I see Emily Haines.

tissp! (tissp!), Thursday, 7 December 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

The Horrors are a contrived Brighton gothpunkdisco mess.

That actually sounds good!

Jamie Smith (Jamie T Smith), Thursday, 7 December 2006 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link

The Horrors are an odd one, insofar as they're a band created to capitalise on a fashion style that didn't yet have a soundtrack (the indie pseudo-goth look that's been creeping around the outskirts of indiedom since 2003), which is surely the first time that's ever happened?

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Thursday, 7 December 2006 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link

King Adora?

tissp! (tissp!), Thursday, 7 December 2006 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link

King Adora were just Placebo filtered through Richey Manic fetishism.

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Thursday, 7 December 2006 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

no they weren't

the horrors are not from brighton. they are part of teh vibrant and exciting southend scene which also includes eh someone else...

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 7 December 2006 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't make me flood this thread with pictures of Rachel Stamp.

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Thursday, 7 December 2006 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Now it sounds less good.

Jamie Smith (Jamie T Smith), Thursday, 7 December 2006 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.rachelstamprocks.com/latest/pix/Press2004.jpg

Rachel Stamp wallpaper!

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Thursday, 7 December 2006 13:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Lock thread?

Michael Annoyman (Michael Annoyman), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I've only just realised that 'Monster' isn't on that singles list. Blimey.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I still refer to that song as "Box car" cos that's what I was sure they were saying was coming over the hill. I thought it was by Box Car Racer and was self-referential to fuck.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I really don't like that song (The 'Monster' one). The chorus is vile

tissp! (tissp!), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

it's hard to resist.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Rachel Stamp - worst band ever.

pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Hang on, aren't The Kooks that band whose ambitions stretch as far as wanting to be the Libertines?

tissp! (tissp!), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Hang on, aren't The Kooks that bandisn't England that country whose ambitions stretch as far as wanting to be the Libertines?


Fixed.

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Nah, we're too busy trying to remove johnny foreigner

tissp! (tissp!), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

them's fighting words, mister dom.

and I don't even live in england.

mister the guanoman (m the g), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

No, the Kooks are the band whose ambition is wanting to be the next Maroon 5.

zeus (zeus), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

it's hard to resist.

temprique hints at liking some recent music EXCLUSIVE

sede vacante (blueski), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

PUT YOUR HANDS UP FOR ENRIQUE- HE LOVES THIS INDIE DISCO

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

woah nelly -- i've only heard bits of it, on adverts for 'now' and shit.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

You can trust my award-winning/job-losing Time Out review!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

absence of razorlight surprises me. i don't read the nme, but if they include the kooks... why is playing live8 not ok by the nme?

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

it's surely nothing to do with live8 participation (see inclusion of madonna, coldplay and others in last year's list).

sede vacante (blueski), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

a rateyourmusic users has formatted the NME 2006 albums list
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/ijkidd/nme_albums_of_the_year_2006

Question: which European ILM-er not from the UK is listed in the "Similar Lists" section?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I bet it's not Stan. I wonder who it could be..

pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

http://music.guardian.co.uk/rock/story/0,,1966974,00.html

Highgate School. hah. pissed in their drive the other week.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Friday, 8 December 2006 09:43 (seventeen years ago) link

"Before you get a record deal," he says, "you think that when you get signed, your problems will disappear. But then you realise that, far from curing everything, success is a big challenge in itself."

maybe if johnny had listened to some rock songs before starting a band he would have picked this up in time.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Friday, 8 December 2006 09:45 (seventeen years ago) link

lol at totured lung/rollercoaster metaphor

Michael Annoyman (Michael Annoyman), Friday, 8 December 2006 10:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to say, No Razorlight in either list is just plain nonsense!

That's aside from if You like them or not.

M Grout (Mark Grout), Friday, 8 December 2006 10:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw an ad on the tube for an nme compilation album: it tracks by razorlight AND the ordinary boys. integrity.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Friday, 8 December 2006 11:24 (seventeen years ago) link

are you dom passantino's dad?

acrobat (acrobat), Friday, 8 December 2006 12:00 (seventeen years ago) link

his mum seems to think so.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Friday, 8 December 2006 12:28 (seventeen years ago) link

*roll eyes emoticon*

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Friday, 8 December 2006 12:35 (seventeen years ago) link

uk comedy z lister mitch benn had turned up on cookd and bombd. can't we have a "celebrity" apperance. it's been ages since dorian lynskey turned up.

acrobat (acrobat), Friday, 8 December 2006 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

he means you, conor.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Friday, 8 December 2006 12:48 (seventeen years ago) link

tim jonze at a push

acrobat (acrobat), Friday, 8 December 2006 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Tim Kash would do as well.

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Friday, 8 December 2006 12:58 (seventeen years ago) link

"The week the single came out, the US essentially legalised torture with the detainee bill and there were three in-school shootings," says Borrell. "To have my entire country singing, 'There's trouble in America, there's panic in America,' is something that makes me quite proud. And yet people still come up to me and say, 'You've got a bit of a reputation, people think you're an arsehole.' I don't see how that adds up. That song was the most played song on the radio for weeks. It's a fact that people like listening to Razorlight."

stevie (stevie2), Friday, 8 December 2006 13:14 (seventeen years ago) link

he has shit hair

sede vacante (blueski), Friday, 8 December 2006 13:21 (seventeen years ago) link

ah stevie yr pretty much a rock crit celebrity but the worse anyone could say, is that you over-rate the drones. hmmm.

acrobat (acrobat), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

over-rate the drones? unpossible.

stevie (stevie2), Saturday, 9 December 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link


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