dj quik poll: blaqkout vs. book of david

and because blaqkout is better

haven't listened to Book of David yet :(

Blaqkout is tight.

wtf shakey

"book of david" for me - it's a much more personal record for one thing, and imo has stronger songs and writing. guest spots are all great. highs are just as high as blaqkout, which obv i love too. I think the songcraft is stronger on "book of david" and the production is real close - the production on blaqkout tends to jump out at you more but "the book of david"'s is real solid throughout

also

also it has a new "quik's groove" which is an automatic win

I love them both. BOD is likely in my top three.

i like 'book of david' a lot more -- i think the songwriting is better, it being less experimental works for it, also quik's rapping is so absurdly good on this

I know I know I'll get around to it

blaqkout is more interesting, book of david probably stronger, v. different projects, almost feels wrong to compare them

i think probably a lot of people were just discovering quik with blaqkout maybe why there's some disappointment that this one is more low stakes?

i have fav songs from both ("do you know" "cream in ya panties" "so compton," the kurupt joint) that i like more than lots of other songs on both.

I really like BoD - have yet to listen properly to Blaqkout. One thing I like about BoD is the consistent point of view that pulls the whole thing together thematically - Blaqkout seems to have less of that.

yes i agree w/ that

blaqkout by far for me. funnier, more emotional, more exciting from song to song.

blaqkout a lot more creative to me

blaqkout is great and has some things over BoD but being more emotional is certainly not one of them

i didn't mean more emotional as in personal for quik, i meant the emotion it elicits in the listener - nothing on BoD comes close to the sheer rush of joy i get when i hear "hey playa" for instance

and blaqkout is a lot more VIVID to me, i think that word best describes what i'm trying to get at here

blaqkout was more of a left turn stylistically ('creatively') but i don't know if that makes it a better album

i almost feel like it's more of a novelty in quik's catalog while BoD is a better continuation of his distinct style

why wouldn't it? i don't see why more personal songwriting and less exciting styles would make BoD a better album

blaqkout is definitely more reliant on the WHOA factor

i consider that a point in its favour

why wouldn't it? i don't see why more personal songwriting and less exciting styles would make BoD a better album

― lex pretend, Thursday, December 1, 2011 4:27 PM (6 minutes ago)

well the rapping is much better on BoD imo - the production on blaqkout is designed to jump out at you but it's not really better than his work on BoD, which is also top-notch

like once you get over the WHOA factor, which i agree is there, it's just another (great) quik album

oh i def disagree about the rapping. blaqkout is wittier, more quotable, the sound of their voices working with/against the beat is more intricate

abstaining because i still haven't listened to BoD but i am having a hard time imagining it being better than blaQKout

blaqkout has oh and hey playa and it's hard to hang with that
book of david is still top ten of the year tho

i've said this before but blaqkout is the best rap album of the past five years. agree with lex about how colorful and vivid it is setting it apart. also the interaction and bonhomie between quik and kurupt is a major factor in how great it is. i actually kind of feel that it not being per se an album about quik while still being totally imbued with his personality works to its advantage. book of david is like top 3 this year tho.

would you say their bonhomie is...svelte?

who is furnace mane

louis jagger

ha, y'all we can just say louis jagger all up in this bitch

i like kurupt as a rapper of course but i think quik being able to dominate BoD puts it over the top for me -- it's such a spiteful album

there's such a great singularity in BoD b/w the perspective of the writing and the production -- i mean you could say the same thing about blaqkout of course, but it's stronger for me w/ BoD

this is like the great 'new amerykah 1 vs new amerykah 2' debate of 2010

who's louis jagger

david drake

Just listened to Book of David. This guy is all right by me.

"it's such a spiteful album"

I dont really get this from BoD on a whole. It has a couple spiteful tracks that are right up front, but its still pretty much just normal Quik throughout. BlaQKout has Fuck Y'all after all.

who is furnace mane

who is joey joe joe junior shabadoo?

jay blanchard

"Killer Dope" is prob. my favorite track from BoD: love that dumb trumpet.

Still cant get enough of those damn drums on Fire & Brimstone, and that heeeeeeeummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm hypnotic hum in the background.

"I'm a Mercedes man, a late 80's man
I guess you could call me the perennial ladies man...

I'm a precious stone, wrapped in parchment paper
Round brilliant cut, shootin' ????????????????
I'M A DIGNITERY, you're a lowly begga
Why don't you pull your plug, you stupid negga"

Can anyone fill in that blank? Love that verse.

"it's such a spiteful album"

I dont really get this from BoD on a whole. It has a couple spiteful tracks that are right up front, but its still pretty much just normal Quik throughout. BlaQKout has Fuck Y'all after all.

― Scotty Magee, Thursday, December 1, 2011 6:38 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

i think this is right but having spent less time with bod these tracks really jump out in my mind.

They are 2 of the best tracks on it.

Both followed by ladies jams, natch.

Cream n ya Panties is probably my favorite produced beat of the last 5 years.

Deej otm about these being hard to stack against each other. BoD has more in common with Trauma and Under Tha Influence which I rate all about the same (2nd tier).

The production on BlaQKout is so much fun. The whole project feels like a weird ass mistake, in a good way of course.

who is deej itt?

Can anyone fill in that blank? Love that verse.

― Scotty Magee, Thursday, December 1, 2011 11:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

jagermeister

deej is jjjjs right

sandbox screen name reshuffle is so confusing :/

voted bod, the production is so great and definitely not a step backward, it's all in the details.

who r u furnace mane??

sandbox screen name reshuffle is so confusing :/

― furnace mane, Friday, December 2, 2011 12:26 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

still dont know who this is

Furnace UCA Coil Mane

btw Quik revealed the blanked out name from "Killer Dope" in his Pitchfork freestyle thing. It's some guy who works for Interscope

I dont really get this from BoD on a whole. It has a couple spiteful tracks that are right up front, but its still pretty much just normal Quik throughout. BlaQKout has Fuck Y'all after all.

― Scotty Magee, Thursday, December 1, 2011 6:38 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

i mean there are def some palate cleansers ("luv of my life", "real women", boogie till you conk out") but even songs like "poppin" and "nobody" and "hydromatic" are like one big middle finger

i mean i know quik has always had that attitude but it seems pronounced on BoD in a lot of places

next poll : fuck yall or nobody ?

nobody for the suga free verse

i'm rev

"The Appeal" was my favorite album closer of 2009: love how relaxed but majestic it sounds.

Book of David for me, but it's really like comparing two high quality cuisines.

i love Kurupt and the songs on Blaqkout are hella dope, but Book of David has Quik giving off this aire of being in complete control, like he's in the zone for the entire record. "Ghetto Rendezvous" just cuts to the bone...

and the groove/hook on "Real Women"

ill probably start defending whichever one seems like it's losing at some point. each of these records do very different things

haha, yes. Having a hard time deciding. Might just be an atm decision.

"i mean i know quik has always had that attitude but it seems pronounced on BoD in a lot of places"

Yeah maybe a little more than normal, but I still wouldn't classify this as a spiteful album. Semantics, idk? The fact that it follows such a buoyant and bouncy album definitely makes it *seem* more subdued.

I enjoy Blaqkout more but there is something about how personal BoD feels that really gets to me. Also 'Ghetto Rendezvous' might be the coldest track I've ever heard.

The Book of David is a very good (if overlong) album but it doesn't quite have the riotous energy that makes Blaqkout a great one. Blaqkout benefits from it brevity as well, there's barely a wasted moment on there.

Thanks for this thread, btw. I prob never would've heard Book of David otherwise, and it's really great.

we r here 4 u

on first listen I'd rate BoD higher than Blaqkout but yeah its such a different animal

otoh oh look another phoned-in Ice Cube verse

yeah that cube verse was pretty weak gotta say

(your boy) KK brings it though and all jon b's hooks are nice too

Yeah was disappointed in that Cube verse. Still bummed that AMG or Hi-C isnt on it.

I like the "You a genius" "No, you a genius" bit

Cube's (apparently entirely unironic) reuse of that green/bill bixby line is just sad.

LOVE LOVE LOVE BOTH OF THESE FOR ALL TIME
DONT KNOW WHAT I WILL VOTE FOR YET THO

cube's entire presence is worth it for the exchange that he & quik have at the end

I'm sayin

The only words I know on this album are the sample of the British dude enthusing about "West Coast America."

you know where that sample is from?

No -- I tried to look it up but couldn't find anything.

i've always assumed it was malcolm mclaren. if not dude sounds just like him.

I suspected McClaren but i tried in vain to find the source material

Yeah was disappointed in that Cube verse. Still bummed that AMG or Hi-C isnt on it.

― Scotty Magee, Friday, December 2, 2011 6:24 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

the only Cube verse I've even liked in recent years was his guest verse on Killer Mike's "Pressure" from like 3 years ago. Even that wasn't prime Cube quality but he was actually saying something for once.

I Am the West was straight ass though.

Semi-related to this thread, but def related to your username:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0gpIKfcCmc

Even that wasn't prime Cube quality but he was actually saying something for once.

yeah he has been so so bad for years now, its sort of flabbergasting. he just does not give a shit.

also has no ear for beats anymore, which is why he raps over some extremely generic, nondescript music.

He probably only raps as an attempt to keep his street cred.

dunno how well that's working out for him tbh

he obviously doesn't need the money

there's a small part of me that hopes his acting in movies like Are We There Yet? is a ruse to set up the final film in the series where he kills all of his kids and starts shooting up South Central and playing basketball with his victims heads

so motherfuckin Compton!

lol

Even that wasn't prime Cube quality but he was actually saying something for once.

yeah he has been so so bad for years now, its sort of flabbergasting. he just does not give a shit.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, December 2, 2011 5:14 PM (1 hour ago)

He probably only raps as an attempt to keep his street cred.

― Scotty Magee, Friday, December 2, 2011 5:20 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

dunno how well that's working out for him tbh

he obviously doesn't need the money

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, December 2, 2011 5:21 PM (56 minutes ago)

and yet...the coors light commercial

haha waht I missed that

dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2LaVHZcr3s
http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http%3A//www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D_9jIsXp8sQQ

rmde

Embarrassing.

I kind of like the Bun B verse, but someone on here referred to it as "Dr Seuss rap" or something, which - I have to admit - is a funny line.

that was me ^_^

Ha - I still think of that whenever I listen to that song.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Still dont know how to vote for this

i woulda let this run later but i was kinda like "eh, ilx will be back up in no time!"

listened to both of them pretty recently gotta go with blaqkout just because it feels so infectiously playful and unpredictable, even if it's actually deceptively serious in the same way book of david is deceptively fun

"even if it's actually deceptively serious in the same way book of david is deceptively fun"

I like that.

yeah, good line

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Wanted a tie :/

kind of not surprised, the record that took a few more risks ends up being more memorable i think. i probably agree w/ these results