Russell Brand to host the Brit awards

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Do you remember the days when a radical new comedy person would be actively avoided when it came to giving out presenting jobs? And nowadays, they are given them IMMEDIATELY!?

(I quite like him, it's just "neuter by familiarity" or is it?)

M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 4 December 2006 10:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Let's all be amazed at the awesome ratings for Russell Brand's recent shows.

Last episode of Russell Brand's Got Issues on E4: 58,000 people
Last episode of his prime time C4 talk show: 400,000

HE'S LESS POPULAR THAN NATHAN FUCKING BARLEY

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Monday, 4 December 2006 10:23 (seventeen years ago) link

even if he was pulling in the highest ratings ever he'd still be awful.

lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 4 December 2006 10:24 (seventeen years ago) link

But this is the thing, I can understand giving some cunt like, I dunno, Chris Moyles the gig because for all his abhorrence he's a popular guy who has a decent fanbase. Russell Brand's PR guy/girl must be the world's most talented individual, they could probably get Ian Huntley a hosting gig on Ministry Of Mayhem.

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Monday, 4 December 2006 10:26 (seventeen years ago) link

well this has been obvious for some time now, the fucker's everywhere!

lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 4 December 2006 10:28 (seventeen years ago) link

anyway i can't get over this sentence:

It saw James Blunt named as best pop act, the Arctic Monkeys winning the breakthrough prize and Coldplay's Speed of Sound taking the single of the year award.

lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 4 December 2006 10:28 (seventeen years ago) link

russell brand is quite good at some things. but the 'got issues' prog was awful, and this will be car-crash.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 4 December 2006 10:30 (seventeen years ago) link

C4 once again realising too late that Graham Norton was their Ant and Dec.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 4 December 2006 10:31 (seventeen years ago) link

(or Graham Norton once again realising too late etc.)

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 4 December 2006 10:32 (seventeen years ago) link

i would rather have brand than moyles anyway, precisely because he's not really that popular. more chance of PUBLIC HUMILIATION and collective pointing-and-laughing. moyles up there would just confirm that he really is well-liked, and that would make me start hating people, and i don't like to hate people.

lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 4 December 2006 10:33 (seventeen years ago) link

But previous to that sentence...

Last year's ceremony was hosted by another BBC Radio 2 DJ, Chris Evans.

This answers "How did RB get it?" and also "Blimey, this year was better, wasn't it? WASN'T IT?"

M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 4 December 2006 10:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Remember that the first ceremony (1978?) was co-hosted by Anne Diamond and DLT.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 4 December 2006 10:34 (seventeen years ago) link

the cult of brand, on the streets of north london, is certainly... a phenomenon.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 4 December 2006 10:35 (seventeen years ago) link

disturbing, if anything.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 4 December 2006 10:36 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to Marc Was that the one where Ian Dury won one to general tutting, especially his shoult to "WOYOY BASHER!!" (i.e. Nick Lowe, and not some unsavoury gangster type)

M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 4 December 2006 10:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Suddenly I *really* want Oasis to win a Brit award because I can't imagine anyone likelier to be cuntishly rude to Russell Brand onstage.

(Please tell me Liam Gallagher and Russell Brand aren't mates or something!)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Noel G to Rod S on Parkinson...

"Russel's a mate, he's a bit cheeky but there's no harm in him, really."

M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Suddenly I *really* want Oasis to win a Brit award because I can't imagine anyone likelier to be cuntishly rude to Russell Brand onstage.

winehouse? lallen?

lexpretend (lexpretend), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:05 (seventeen years ago) link

brand's real weakspot is his fondness for rubbish guitar music, so i guess he'll be like a pig in shit here.

he had allen on his show and licked her talentless arse.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Hasn't Gallagher been modelling himself on Brand though? i.e wearing skinny jeans and a moth eaten silk scarf.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:09 (seventeen years ago) link

that's right!

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to Marc Was that the one where Ian Dury won one to general tutting, especially his shoult to "WOYOY BASHER!!" (i.e. Nick Lowe, and not some unsavoury gangster type)

-- M Grout (mark.grou...), December 4th, 2006.

The very one.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Y'see, that's my point.

The establishment Should be tutting and puffing the awards that go to actually vital and interesting recipients.

Not celebrating another Annie Lennox gong. (although, remember how the Eurythmics never got any as they weren't a group and couldn't be counted as a solo singer either)

Thesedays, we're all cool, trendy, with-it and funky. Even the accountants. Especially the accountants.

M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Surely Sting is the accountants choice?

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:24 (seventeen years ago) link

You are sadly mistaken, it's all Arctic Monkeys round their way.

M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:26 (seventeen years ago) link

did that lute album sell? doubt it. your proverbial accountants like scissor sisters and snow patrol and lily allen. there's nothing alternative about those acts.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, being cool, trendetc is all in the eye of the beholder in the mirror anyway.

I always used to love that bloke who always came on with his two red setters.

M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:31 (seventeen years ago) link

What happened exactly at last year's awards? That article says their televised presentation was shambolic, a fiasco, etc. but surely that's interesting, i.e. eminently tune-innable?

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:37 (seventeen years ago) link

wiki doesn't rate it. it certainly didn't live up to its list of:

3 Selected famous and infamous Brit Award incidents
3.1 Ronnie Wood vs Brandon Block (2000)
3.2 Robbie Williams vs Liam Gallagher (2000)
3.3 Belle & Sebastian beat Steps to best newcomer award (1999)
3.4 Chumbawamba throw water over John Prescott (1998)
3.5 Jarvis Cocker’s stage invasion during Michael Jackson’s Earth Song (1996)
3.6 The KLF, a machine gun and a dead sheep (1992)
3.7 The Sam Fox and Mick Fleetwood "car crash" (1989)

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:44 (seventeen years ago) link

but, for fans of alternative music, this was the only brit ceremony that mattered:

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temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:44 (seventeen years ago) link

nothing happened last year iirc. the 'shambolic fiasco etc.' was reference to the '89 awards. the decision to broadcast them live seems more an act of desperation to make it exciting rather than a genuine understanding of how to televise a good awards show well.

sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh I see; I misread that part

Awards show HAVE to be live to hold any interest whatsoever

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:49 (seventeen years ago) link

not when you have a fantastic mash-up of 'crazy in love' and 'hey ya' to look forward to.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 4 December 2006 11:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Remember that the first ceremony (1978?) was co-hosted by Anne Diamond and DLT

Sue Lawley wasn't it? Back when it was the, er, Nationwide Rock & Pop Awards.

Venga1 (Venga1), Monday, 4 December 2006 12:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Sue Lawley seems more likely, but then Marc's rarely wrong.

M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 4 December 2006 12:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think Diamond made it to national television until breakfast TV started in the UK, circa 83. Anyway, I remember Lawley hosting this show.

Venga1 (Venga1), Monday, 4 December 2006 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link

googling suggests it was lawley as the thing was on 'nationwide'.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 4 December 2006 12:58 (seventeen years ago) link

nominee predictions (winners marked by asterisk):

male
ROBBIE WILLIAMS*
JAMES MORRISON
LEMAR
PAOLO NUTINI
THOM YORKE

female
SANDI THOM
AMY WINEHOUSE*
LILY ALLEN
EMMA BUNTON
JAMELIA

group
RAZORLIGHT
THE KOOKS / THE FEELING
KEANE
MUSE
THE ARCTIC MONKEYS*

album
RAZORLIGHT
KEANE
ROBBIE WILLIAMS
MUSE
THE ARCTIC MONKEYS*

single
RAZORLIGHT - AMERICA
THE KOOKS - NAIVE
MUSE - SUPERMASSIVE BLACK HOLE
LILY ALLEN - SMILE
GNARLS BARKLEY - CRAZY*

breakthrough
THE KOOKS
THE FEELING
GNARLS BARKLEY*
PAOLO NUTINI
JAMES MORRISON

urban
LEMAR
GNARLS BARKLEY
THE STREETS
ALESHA
BASEMENT JAXX*

rock
RAZORLIGHT
THE FRATELLIS
KEANE
MUSE
THE ARCTIC MONKEYS*

live
ROBBIE WILLIAMS
MUSE*
GNARLS BARKLEY
KEANE
THE ARCTIC MONKEYS

pop
GIRLS ALOUD
WESTLIFE
ROBBIE WILLIAMS
MCFLY*
THE PET SHOP BOYS

int male
AKON
JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE*
MEAT LOAF
BOB SINCLAR
P DIDDY

int female
PINK
NELLY FURTADO*
BEYONCE
SHAKIRA
NERINA PALLOT

int group
SCISSOR SISTERS*
THE KILLERS
THE RACONTEURS
RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS
MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE

int album
SCISSOR SISTERS*
THE KILLERS
JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE
BEYONCE
RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS

int break
MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE*
ORSON
THE RACONTEURS
NERINA PALLOT
NE*YO


Muse COULD dislodge AMs for some awards and Snow Patrol may oust The Kooks or The Feeling for some noms tho it would be funny if they did end up overlooked completely (not that the Kooks or Feeling or any better).

Riveting stuff!

sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 4 December 2006 13:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Kasabian might also squeeze into a couple of cats (rock, live). Depends on whether they do five or six noms for the bigger awards.

sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 4 December 2006 13:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Why are Gnarls Barkley nominated? Is Cee Lo secretely from Cleethorpes or something?

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Monday, 4 December 2006 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Lemar = urban = roffles.

Venga1 (Venga1), Monday, 4 December 2006 13:06 (seventeen years ago) link

shit, i keep thinking Dangermouse is British

sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 4 December 2006 13:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Gnarls will win Best Int Breakthru then = DEVASTATING BLOW FOR EMOISTS

sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 4 December 2006 13:08 (seventeen years ago) link

paolo nutini = cryingeagle.jpg = nuclear holocaust in nought point two seconds

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Monday, 4 December 2006 13:20 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
it's tonight. er yay. mmm british people all left offices now i guess.

acrobat (acrobat), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

British Male Solo Artist
Artist
James Morrison
Jarvis Cocker
Lemar
Paolo Nutini
Thom Yorke


British Female Solo Artist
Artist
Amy Winehouse
Corinne Bailey Rae
Jamelia
Lily Allen
Nerina Pallot


British Group
Arctic Monkeys
Kasabian
Muse
Razorlight
Snow Patrol


British Album
Amy Winehouse Back to Black
Arctic Monkeys Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not
Lily Allen Alright, Still
Muse Black Holes And Revelations
Snow Patrol Eyes Open


British Single Shortlist
Corinne Bailey Rae Put Your Records On Eliminated (Round 1)
The Feeling Fill My Little World Nominated
James Morrison You Give Me Something Eliminated (Round 2)
The Kooks She Moves In Her Own Way Eliminated (Round 1)
Leona Lewis A Moment Like This Eliminated (Round 2)
Lily Allen Smile Eliminated (Round 2)
Razorlight America Nominated
Sandi Thom I Wish I Was A Punk Rocker Eliminated (Round 1)
Snow Patrol Chasing Cars Nominated
Take That Patience Nominated
Will Young All Time Love Nominated


British Breakthrough Act
Corinne Bailey Rae
The Fratellis
James Morrison
The Kooks
Lily Allen


British Live Act
George Michael
Guillemots
Kasabian
Muse
Robbie Williams

International Male Solo Artist
Beck
Bob Dylan
Damien Rice
Jack Johnson
Justin Timberlake


International Female Solo Artist
Beyoncé
Cat Power
Christina Aguilera
Nelly Furtado
Pink


International Group
The Flaming Lips
Gnarls Barkley
The Killers
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Scissor Sisters


International Album
Bob Dylan Modern Times
Gnarls Barkley St Elsewhere
Justin Timberlake FutureSex/LoveSounds
The Killers Sam's Town
Scissor Sisters Ta-Dah


International Breakthrough Act
Gnarls Barkley
Orson
The Raconteurs
Ray Lamontagne
Wolfmother

Outstanding Contribution To Music
Artist Presenter
Oasis Ringo Starr

acrobat (acrobat), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

(Spoilers!)

________________________________________________

RUNNING ORDER

Start 8pm Finish 10pm

RUSSELL BRAND WELCOMES

PERFORMANCE: SCISSOR SISTERS - I DON'T FEEL LIKE DANCING

AWARD: BRITISH LIVE ACT, PRESENTED BY KEITH ALLEN

PERFORMANCE: SNOW PATROL - CHASING CARS

AWARD: BRITISH BREAKTHROUGH ACT, PRESENTED BY JARVIS COCKER

AWARD: INTERNATIONAL BREAKTHROUGH ACT, PRESENTED BY TONI COLLETTE

PERFORMANCE: AMY WINEHOUSE - REHAB

AWARD: BRITISH MALE SOLO ARTIST, PRESENTED BY JOSS STONE

AWARD: INTERNATIONAL MALE SOLO ARTIST, PRESENTED BY ERIN O'CONNER AND ROLAND MOURET

PERFORMANCE: THE KILLERS - “WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG"

AWARD: BRITISH FEMALE SOLO ARTIST, PRESENTED BY JO WHILEY

AWARD: INTERNATIONAL FEMALE SOLO ARTIST, PRESENTED BY RICKY WILSON

PERFORMANCE: TAKE THAT - “PATIENCE"

AWARD: BRITISH GROUP, PRESENTED BY ANTHONY HEAD

AWARD:INTERNATIONAL GROUP, PRESENTED BY SOPHIE ELLIS-BEXTOR AND STEVEN TYLER

PEFORMANCE: RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS -“DANI CALIFORNIA"

AWARD: INTERNATIONAL ALBUM, PRESENTED BY SIMON PEGG AND NICK FROST

PERFORMANCE: CORRINE BAILEY RAE - “PUT YOUR RECORDS ON"

AWARD: BRITISH SINGLE (VOTED LIVE ON AIR BY VIEWERS), PRESENTED BY ALLEN CARR

AWARD: MASTERCARD BRITISH ALBUM, PRESENTED BY SEAN BEAN

PEFORMANCE: OASIS - “CIGARETTES & ALCOHOL"/“MEANING OF SOUL"/“MORNING GLORY"/DON'T LOOK BACK IN ANGER"/“ROCK AND ROLL STAR"

_______________________________________

pisces (pisces), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

wow the live acts are really dispiriting. last year there was kanye and prince at least.

acrobat (acrobat), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link


shall we run a book on how long it is before keith allen mentions lily? i'll start the bidding at 5 seconds.

pisces (pisces), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

AWARD: BRITISH SINGLE (VOTED LIVE ON AIR BY VIEWERS), PRESENTED BY ALLEN CARR

Wow.

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

PREDICTIONS

British Male Solo Artist
James Morrison

British Female Solo Artist
Corinne Bailey Rae

British Group
Arctic Monkeys

British Album
Snow Patrol Eyes Open

British Single Shortlist
Take That Patience

British Breakthrough Act
Lily Allen

British Live Act
Robbie Williams

International Male Solo Artist
Jack Johnson

International Female Solo Artist
Pink

International Group
Scissor Sisters

International Album
The Killers Sam's Town

International Breakthrough Act
Gnarls Barkley

acrobat (acrobat), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

me prediction are well wrong. the show is not very good. not even good bad just very mediocre, very trying, very 2007.

acrobat (acrobat), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Brand is the best thing about this shindig. So much for the 'it's gonna be live - anything can happen!!' it's been all "thanks to Sony/EMI and everyone in the marketing department, bye now" so far.

So far...

DavidM (DavidM), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I watched nelly furtado win a prize and take that sing some tune when I was waiting for my takeaway a little while ago. It all looked pretty boring. Why does any "international" act waste their time coming to this? the takeaway was good, at least.

Norman Phay (Pashmina), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

No-one gives/gave a shit about the brits '07, evidently.

Norman Phay (Pashmina), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

"Surely Sting is the accountants choice?"

"You are sadly mistaken, it's all Arctic Monkeys round their way."

No it fuckin' ain't.

The Accountant (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

What was in your takeaway Norman?

Sadly I don't think anyone got my Sting-Accountants joke.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

king prawns and chicken w/tomatoes, boiled rice. Very tasty, lots of garlic.

Norman Phay (Pashmina), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Russell Brand isn't very funny, is he? By which I mean, not actually funny at all.

Norman Phay (Pashmina), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but sometimes he might reference his gentials by a comedy nickname, or namedrop a cultura commentator who has no relevance to the discussion in hand, so that puts him ahead of Mark Dolan at least.

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't even know who Mark Dolan is ([/lex]). (which I guess also puts Brand ahead of him)

Norman Phay (Pashmina), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

what got me about the whole show was how they seemed to be striving for some kind of illusion of edginess. also russell brand managed to sound completely bored throughout the whole thing which was not really a unwarranted reaction.

acrobat (acrobat), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Liam sounded rough!

And the rest was almost as embarrassing as the Mick/sam one.

M Grout (Mark Grout), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Joss Stone: What?

M Grout (Mark Grout), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah well.. see you in the morning.

M Grout (Mark Grout), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:44 (seventeen years ago) link

lily was robbed. get fucked BRIT awards.

pisces (pisces), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Hello Morning.

M Grout (Mark Grout), Thursday, 15 February 2007 09:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Has RB ever said anything that's actually funny?

braveclub (braveclub), Thursday, 15 February 2007 09:54 (seventeen years ago) link

arguably. subjectively. ask enrique.

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:04 (seventeen years ago) link

man that was a depressing two hours. i half tuned out. the last brits i saw was 2004, i remember presenter cat deeley informing us rock was back. i guess she was right, in the end.

all of the music was uniformly bad, all of the winners were vile privately educated corporate drones with shit music, but the funny thing was how in awe of the mid-90s it was. nelly furtado said her favourite acts were all british -- pulp, blur, postishead... a bit like saying your fave producer is timbaland i suppose.

but with oasis and take that on board too...

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:05 (seventeen years ago) link

brand has said funny things, i'm sure. not last night particularly.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:06 (seventeen years ago) link

joss stone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkKhe8j0G2c

Frogm@n henry (Frogm@n henry), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:07 (seventeen years ago) link

i didn't get what he was doing last night. he was on the whole delivering cat deeley style "wow that was greats!" but in such a strangely bored manner sort of like he was either aware of the show's inate rubbishness or this was simply another level of "edginess" or "irony" or something.

xp

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i think in his heart of hearts RB wanted to sound more sarcastic but bottled it, so it came off even lamer. who was the woman in the leopard-print dress? it's on the tip of my tongue. awful anyway. don't read this wrong but what is up with all the dropped accents with these fuckers?

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:13 (seventeen years ago) link

out of curiosity, why did you all watch it? you knew you would be bored, you ended up being bored...

lexpretend (lexpretend), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I was hoping that the Oasis performance would help sell my Oasis CD on Amazong, but no luck. I blame Liam's bald patch.

I wacthed it, or started watching it, because "I am interested in pop music".

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:19 (seventeen years ago) link

that's kind of why i didn't watch it

lexpretend (lexpretend), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:20 (seventeen years ago) link

out of curiosity, why did you all watch it? you knew you would be bored, you ended up being bored...
-- lexpretend (lexusjee...), February 15th, 2007.

i like to know what all the hip kids are listening to.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I watched 24 and Heroes instead. Much better.

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i didn't watch it! my freeview box has decided to block itv, quite blessedly i think! (and i don't have analogue reception for some reason). the joss stone thing was linked on digitalspy.

Frogm@n henry (Frogm@n henry), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't have sky.

i did watch the daily show during some of the brits.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:24 (seventeen years ago) link

joss stone was totally embarrassing. all that suggestive slinking around the stage then talking about robbie williams - "an inspiration to us all" wtf!? - then to top it off she got all competitive and tried to sing a bit of that rehab song that amy winehouse had just finished. just completely transparent and cringeworthy

colin0Hara (colin_o_hara), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:25 (seventeen years ago) link

WTF at Joss Stone's fake accent, I'm just flabbergasted by how bad it was.

Norman Phay (Pashmina), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:26 (seventeen years ago) link

i somehow missed the one thing peoples are talking about. damn you john stewart.

i think joss was in an american movie. could be trying it as an actress.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:27 (seventeen years ago) link

it was on in another room. there was food in that room.

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:27 (seventeen years ago) link

god i just watched that again - "big big BIG love to robbie williams for going through what he's going through right now" *vomit*. refreshingly, half the audience sounded like they were either booing or didn't give a fuck.

colin0Hara (colin_o_hara), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i like to know what all the hip kids are listening to.

surely you knew that already

lexpretend (lexpretend), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:30 (seventeen years ago) link

x-post

It's sort of why I switched off after a bit.

And I suppose it's why I kept flicking back from time to time.

I just couldn't get into Bolton and Arsenal, although I'm sure it was quite good.

The audience seemed quite shocked at Russell B taking the piss out of Robbie W.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:31 (seventeen years ago) link

to give the insufferably smug cuntwit credit, keith allen's gag about robin hood would have been funny if he hadn't fluffed it like a tit.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:33 (seventeen years ago) link

who was the woman in the leopard-print dress? it's on the tip of my tongue.

Fern "I love Oasis, me!" Cotton.

neil stewart (nstewart), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:42 (seventeen years ago) link

ah i thought it might have been! lots of make-up.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Was there anyone involved in the ceremony this year who wasn't a complete and utter cunt?

Sick Mouthy (sickmouthy), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:46 (seventeen years ago) link

that model erin whatshername is supposed to be ok.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:47 (seventeen years ago) link

but in general, all utter cunts. i saw noely g on newsnight and he was an unspeakable thatcherite fucktard.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Why do they still insist on shunting Lauren Laverne off to ITV2 instead?

Fearne's question standard = "What was your favourite moment of tonight" to every winner who then replied "winning this, woargh!!!!" and five mins later eventually got round to "oh Amy Winehouse's song was um quite good"

M Grout (Mark Grout), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:48 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Jarvis?

M Grout (Mark Grout), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:48 (seventeen years ago) link

jarv's presence was just kind of sad.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:53 (seventeen years ago) link

He should know better as well- revisiting past glories and all that.

neil stewart (nstewart), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Jarvis is probably the most pathetic figure in music these days, I'd say he's overtaken David Van Day in that respect now.

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm expecting Pulp to reform and play "all the songs you know and love" at some point in the next few years.

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought Erin Wahtsername was fairly detestable on this.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 15 February 2007 10:56 (seventeen years ago) link

out of curiosity, why did you all watch it?

I didn't watch it, I watched Bolton-Arsenal. Gilberto's penalty was funnier than anything RB could produce.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Funnily enough, I saw that penalty too. Maybe watching several channels at once *is* all it's cracked up to be.

Expert analysis from the BBC:

Oasis, who took the outstanding contribution to music award, performed several songs.

Standing ovation

Their performance, which was so loud it could be felt under foot, got everyone up dancing, and some were even up on the tables.


Oasis sang a selection of their best hits on stage

Fred Rigele travelled all the way from Austria just to see his idols perform.

"I'm mad for Oasis," he said. "They were the best band today, the whole hall gave them a standing ovation."

There were some that were disappointed with the Gallagher brothers though.

"I thought Liam might have caused a bit of trouble, but no such luck," said Sarah House from Reading.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:03 (seventeen years ago) link

jarvis seemed to be attempting a jimmy saville impression and having a pop of sorts at oasis. like brand's sycophantic irony the mixing of messages lead only to confusion and embarrasment for all concerned. he then got mooned at by the fratellis. he, understandably, blanked someone i know years back when they rather tactlessly brought up michael jackson. now... i dunno he seems to be embracing, or at least letting those round him, use it as his main claim to fame.

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Orson were the only truely awful shower of idiots last night. Joss Stone being kind of exempt due to her WTF-ness being a highlight in many ways.
Otherwise everyone was either forgettable, bland or just okay. Russell Brand was just okay, certainly better than previous hosts whose bellowed scripted enthusiasm always echoed into nothingness. He smoothed out the stiltedness of the event as best as anyone could.
Jarvis was alright, the Arctic Monkeys deadpan to the point of sarcastic acceptance speech dressed as Wizard of Oz charecters was alright, Amy Winehouse, looking like a wonky Tim Burton claymation figure, was alright. Er, was that it?
Who are The Fratellis?

Noel Gallagher was good on Newsnight.

DavidM (DavidM), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I know its been said upthread, but it deserves repeating: Oasis were truly abysmal, Liam's voice is shot, they should just give up. And I thought Liam's acceptance of their trumped up award was disgustingly petulant: "I suppose this'll have to do". What a cunt.

neil stewart (nstewart), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link

orson! the mika of last year!

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:09 (seventeen years ago) link

noel gallagher on newsnight was like: thatcher was a meanie but for me y'know, i take care of me and my family, and that's it; charity begins at home... dick.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link

If you cut the line about Red Bull out, "No Tomorrow" is a pretty great song.

xp

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:11 (seventeen years ago) link

thing about "no tomorrow" is how i know i have heard it many, many time but can barely remember it. it's as good as "grace kelly".

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:13 (seventeen years ago) link

And I thought Liam's acceptance of their trumped up award was disgustingly petulant: "I suppose this'll have to do". What a cunt.

I can't help but feel you might have taken this a bit personally

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:16 (seventeen years ago) link

one thing about bloor and owaysis winning in 1995 was, however cringily, they did feel appreciably different from the people who always won -- AOR, radio 2, britannia music club stuff; they were in nme and annie lennox was not, etc, blah.

so anyway now oasis are the old cunts, but not even famously 'lippy' songstress lily allen, famously talentless alcoholic amy winehouse and famously shirty dickbags kasabian seem to have anything but blandness to offer against them.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Noel was just saying how being a campaigning rockstar like Thom and Chris Martin "bombarding their audience with depressing images at a rock concert" isn't for him. I don't like Oasis or anything but I agree with what he said.

DavidM (DavidM), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Did anybody actually manage to raise a laugh intentionally?

Russell got "oh, tut!",

Keith Allen got "I don't get it.. oh hang on Robin Hood, yes he was in it, wasn't he?" laugh slow dissipation.

Joss Stone got big laffs but it doesn't count if you're laffing at your own joke.

Anyone?

M Grout (Mark Grout), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:23 (seventeen years ago) link

yeh but it's like brand presenting. everything is so draped in cool, irony and this weird aggression that it's hard to find a way to disrupt that. all the exit's have already been sealed. it's like donny toruttes on cbb/nevermind the buzzcocks. you can't undermine it cos it is already so far gone itself. i guess there might be another way but you just end up playing an expected part.

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Liam sang like he was swallowing a telegraph pole at the same time!

(OK, so maybe he had a bad throat on the day)

M Grout (Mark Grout), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't know if those bands even do that (project images of war on stage etc). but he's ignorant of rock history if he thinks radiohead being into politics is anything new or un-rock-like. apparently john lennon took the occasional stand on issues that interested him.

xpost

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:24 (seventeen years ago) link

but also it's not like radiohead force their reluctant fans to put up with it! i'm told they move weight, vinyl-wise -- possibly more than oasis, worldwide.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Winehouse and Kasabian are clever enough not to bite the hand that feeds them, basically.

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:29 (seventeen years ago) link

And I thought Liam's acceptance of their trumped up award was disgustingly petulant: "I suppose this'll have to do". What a cunt.

I can't help but feel you might have taken this a bit personally

Not personally, it was just that in a shower of idiocy I thought that really took the biscuit, to mix my metaphors horribly. Liam's "rock 'n roll outlaw" schtick was tired 10 years ago, and is considerably more tired now!

neil stewart (nstewart), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:48 (seventeen years ago) link

It has a bald patch now.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:54 (seventeen years ago) link

whilst what, i think, lex might have been getting it that it's kind of pointless to criticize the Brits for being boring (clue they always have been cf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_awards ) on the other hand enrique has a point that at some stage they were a good pointer to more general pop shifts and yes entertaining in that something might "go wrong". it is the fact that the organizers are aware of the second point that made this years show interesting if not entertaining. if you saw the trails what was being advertised was the idea of "danger" that "anything might happen". now i'm not saying i believed the ads but it sort of comes round to Passantino scratching post 2005 - 2007; the rather desperate use of danger and authenticity as a marketing tool. it's like all these signifiers are floating about and no one quite knows what they are doing or really cares. cf jarvis announcing the fratellis as "ice cool indie rock" what the hell does that even mean? the whole thing seemed to strain for relevance that in the end it sort of achieved it. all the battles or whatever have been fought… there’s just heaped helpings of cynical cynicism and safe irony left. it really did capture uk pop in 2007.

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 11:59 (seventeen years ago) link

two progs in one night made lols with the three words 'britney spears vagina'. it's hard to be edgy really, when that's mainstream.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:03 (seventeen years ago) link

that's not quite it, but basically what paul said.

i doubt pulp or the other slightly cooler bands who won stuff in the mid-90s sold as many records as amy winehouse or snow patrol or the frankly sinister muse.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay Muse! That is the one award they really deserve to win.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:14 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw noely g on newsnight and he was an unspeakable thatcherite fucktard.
-- temporary enrique (miltonpinsk...), February 15th, 2007.

details?

pisces (pisces), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:15 (seventeen years ago) link

noel gallagher on newsnight was like: thatcher was a meanie but for me y'know, i take care of me and my family, and that's it; charity begins at home... dick.
-- temporary enrique (miltonpinsk...), February 15th, 2007.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:15 (seventeen years ago) link

whilst what, i think, lex might have been getting it that it's kind of pointless to criticize the Brits for being boring (clue they always have been cf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_awards ) on the other hand enrique has a point that at some stage they were a good pointer to more general pop shifts and yes entertaining in that something might "go wrong".

more general pop shifts and so on, within british music. british music isn't very exciting in any areas at the moment (though i do like winehouse), or at least it's consistently being trumped by foreign acts, so it stands to reason that the brit awards aren't going to be particularly exciting. i don't see this as a problem, at all.

lexpretend (lexpretend), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:15 (seventeen years ago) link

wittered on some shit about politics being something you do every five years, it's our fault tony blair is who he is because we 'elected him president' etc etc.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:16 (seventeen years ago) link

pulp never actually won! blur / oasis / manics were selling mega units in the mid 90s. the only ones who that point sort of rings true about is bjork and beck winning but they were obv in international catergories so i guess more room for tokenism!

xp

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:16 (seventeen years ago) link

what about dubstep, the most thrilling, forward-thinking music in the UK today?

crosspost

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:17 (seventeen years ago) link

er i'm kind of talking about music which has any hope at all to be in the charts, here.

lexpretend (lexpretend), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:18 (seventeen years ago) link

International categories were fucked up though, I mean which NEW American bands actually made any impact on the British charts in the late 90s? Fun Lovin' Criminals, Eels... that's it. Smashmouth, probably.

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean which NEW American bands actually made any impact on the British charts in the late 90s?

destiny's child.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Lily Allen's great and it's sort of outrageous that she didn't win anything.

xpost: that list of impactful American bands is... stunning.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:20 (seventeen years ago) link

in the UK charts in the late '90s, tracer -- i'm drawing blanks, have to say.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Hanson had a massive number one! Backstreet Boys! N*sync!

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link

they were all shit.

srsly though, none of them were that impactful, especially not n*sync.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Mmm Bop! is the best song ever!

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Sketchy details of Noel G's state of the nation address:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6364089.stm

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Mmm Bop! is the best song ever!
-- acrobat (kowalski9...), February 15th, 2007.

http://www.cbc.ca/consumers/market/files/health/ritalin/gfx/ritalin_large.jpg

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:27 (seventeen years ago) link

srsly though, none of them were that impactful, especially not n*sync.

backstreet boys gave the world the max martin sound which basically ruled pop for a few years, you may have heard of this singer called britney spears for example

lexpretend (lexpretend), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Destiny's Child didn't mean anything until summer 99 over here when "Bills Bills Bills" and that one about bugs menaced the charts, and you'd have a hard time convincing anyone that DC are a 90s band not a 00s one.

N'Sync never went top 10 in the UK until 1999 as well.

xxxxp

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:28 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, i think you mean max martin gave backstreet boys the max martin sound, and it did not rule pop, it produced some very successful records, mostly for britney, for a couple of years.

xpost

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:29 (seventeen years ago) link

"backstreet boys gave the world the max martin sound"

gets more wtf every time i read it.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:29 (seventeen years ago) link

1999 is the late nineties! Backstreet Boys had a UK no 1 in 99 but had been charting solidly since 1996. Blink 182 didn't break in the uk until 2000! thats only a year before sum 41!

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:32 (seventeen years ago) link

a *lot* of people had #1s in 1999. backstreet boys were just not a big noise in pop music! and anyway they were shit.

Blink 182 didn't break in the uk until 2000! thats only a year before sum 41!

QED

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll give you Backstreet Boys tbh, their chart run from 1996 is pretty impressive. And 1999 is not the late 90s, it's one year of it.

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:35 (seventeen years ago) link

"What's My Age Again?" only charted at 38. That seems ridiculously low considering how much I remember it being played out.

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

yeh but blink were around a long time before and are certainly a lot older than sum 41. motivation is so great.

backstreet boys were just not a big noise in pop music!

wrong

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:37 (seventeen years ago) link

"What's My Age Again?" re-entered at 17 the following year.

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i suppose i forget that the media landscape of ten years ago was v diff, so you could still sell lots without being 'impactful'. i watched a lot of tv and listened to a lot of radio back then but don't remember the backstreet boys at all (other than 'backstreet's back' and that one ballad). whereas i hardly listen to the radio at all now but seem to osmose bullshit about rubbish pop stars (winehouse, allen) anyway.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:38 (seventeen years ago) link

paul as the only person on this thread who seems to want to talk about the subject at hand (i've lost track of what this even is) with any enthusiasm, why on earth do you do it with people whose only interest is in snarking at everything and anything regardless of what it is?

lexpretend (lexpretend), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:40 (seventeen years ago) link

If you don't know what the subject at hand is how do you know we're not talking about it?

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:43 (seventeen years ago) link

um the subject is the brit awards, not boy bands of the late '90s.

but we are now on 'impactful US bands of the late '90s'. i'm not merely being snarky, i just never drank the kool-aid wrt backstreet boys. i feel no enthusiasm for them!

or the max martin sound. which other than britney's early stuff, seems to consist in the aforementioned BSBs, some n*sync, and fucking 5ive. oh and the odd bryan adams track. kudos to max.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:46 (seventeen years ago) link

This kinda impacts on a thread that I was gonna start earlier in the week but couldn't think of a decent opening for, which is that 1999 is the most mis-remembered year in popular music ever.

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

it is round these parts, aye.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:48 (seventeen years ago) link

People think it was this wonderous sugarland of happy pop music created by magical Swedish wizards and sang by happy smiling young things. In reality, the top 40 was 39 trance singles and a Travis song.

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:49 (seventeen years ago) link

and 'tequila'.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Terrorvision appearing on Noel's House Party: the moment that rock came back. Everything since has just been dressing.

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I watched Dragons Den followed by The Verdict. Hard to know where one ended and the other began.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 15 February 2007 13:00 (seventeen years ago) link

'the truth is what you believe' is a truly scary tagline for a show about a rape trial.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 13:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Did any Britpop bands appear on Noel's House Party?

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 13:02 (seventeen years ago) link

apart from the famous denim/auteurs ep obviously.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 13:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i went for lunch. i dunno these things can be good if they get going.

xp to lex

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 13:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Noels House Party didn't feature bands till really near the end of its run BUT i do remember the spice girls opening the show and the introduction of a liam galleghar look a like who smashed mellons into the audience.

interesting point about 1999 cos the brits of that years are really odd. des'ree, belle and sebastian, manics all winning ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_Awards#1999 . i think the thing about this years is that for all the snark and so forth uk pop at the moment really has it sewn up, commercially at least. this current fecundity has been going on for what 3 or 4 years british acts are starting to really make it in the US. the weird thing is that the brits can't actually be triumphant about it. well they can but it rings hollow. you have all these acts making serious money but for some reason it all needs to be wrapped up in this mythos, all this baggage from punk and britpop. things can’t just be a collection of good songs or whatever they have to at once dangerous and prove the collective musical / moral worth of the nation.

There is this bit in the middle of What’s My Age Again that is almost unspeakably beautiful. It's like 74-75 moving but in the middle of this upbeat tune. Wow.

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6365325.stm

pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, so it was controversial after all. Well done, Russell.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh and what was all that "plunging the sound into the bottom of the swimming pool" ?

There wasn't any swearing during the lead break in "Don't look back in anger" was there?

M Grout (Mark Grout), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

The sound kept going off "at their end" during Oasis. I didn't think it was anyhting to do with swearing, I thought it was just incompetence.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

ha it's weird that seemingly controversy = relevancy to these people. why can't the music alone be enough. if the presenter is supplying the "edge" or whatever how bloody contrived is that. all ther performances were rote, really unexceptional. why can't britain ever do things like prince at the superbowl, why can't we seemingly do big music events with any pizzaz. tbh the big stories of the last few brits have been americans (and australians) coming over and doing good shows last year prince and kanye, 2003 timberlake and kylie bum grabbing. is the biggest uk music buying demographic really 20 something with i-pods?

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

DJ Marcrobat

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't know what you want from it, paul.

i guess sneakingly i want it to be shit, and for someone to show it to be shit. but the modern MO is 'get your retaliation in first' ie have a presenter who hates it and bands no-one could possibly care about either way. what would be the point of 'upstaging' something so desperate to shock.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

But yeah, British bands don't understand showmanship AT ALL.

xp

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

In that case they should have brought back Noel Edmonds to present (xp).

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

i want fireworks and a marching band which lights up and huge fucking explosions and i want a medley that starts as a greatest hits set then goes into pie jesu and fall out boy and i want 100s of dancers and i want a fucking awesome shreddy guitar solo and i want a stage that lights up like something out of final fantasy 7 and i want some great songs and i want more fireworks and i want an omg duet and more fireworks

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

oh i get it now. you're one of these emos.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

yeh that was your average sunny day real estate show back in the day

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, I'd like the Stooges on.

M Grout (Mark Grout), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

yeh, there teaming up with kode 9 and the spaceape next year, it's booked already.

acrobat (acrobat), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Was there anyone involved in the ceremony this year who wasn't a complete and utter cunt?

-- Sick Mouthy (njsouthal...), February 15th, 2007.

nick gets it, although i can't say i watched the blessed thing.

unfished business (Scourage), Friday, 16 February 2007 01:32 (seventeen years ago) link

what no one explained to me was how joss stone seemed to have *planned* and (under)rehearsed this whole thing. the whole out-in-front-of-the-podium-i-wanna-tell-you-a-storee affair. the arrogance of the womanchild! hillariously she's been 'serrenading the president' lately which perhaps accounts for the wee poppet thinking that now teh whole world wants to hear what she has to say!

even more hillariously she has no auto-filter or whatever on her myspace page leading (by last night at least) to a deluge of 'oh you have let us down so badly' type comments on there for teh world and his wife to gawp and cringe at.

pisces (pisces), Friday, 16 February 2007 11:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i was thinking about how they could improve the show

resumo impetus (blueski), Friday, 16 February 2007 12:02 (seventeen years ago) link

see my post about 8 or 9 up

acrobat (acrobat), Friday, 16 February 2007 12:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Tits and guns.

White Collar Boxer (DomPassantino), Friday, 16 February 2007 12:06 (seventeen years ago) link

i think kirsty wark should compere. give it a bit of frisson.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Friday, 16 February 2007 12:06 (seventeen years ago) link

"This profile is undergoing routine maintenance. We apologize for the inconvenience!"

Frogm@n henry (Frogm@n henry), Friday, 16 February 2007 12:09 (seventeen years ago) link

even more hillariously she has no auto-filter or whatever on her myspace page leading (by last night at least) to a deluge of 'oh you have let us down so badly' type comments on there for teh world and his wife to gawp and cringe at.

I just checked - either they deleted it all or the deluge of myspace comment spam has pushed it all down the list.

Norman Phay (Pashmina), Friday, 16 February 2007 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

"I watched Dragons Den followed by The Verdict."

I still want to know how come no-one involved in making The Verdict seems to have noticed that Jeffrey Archer isn't actually eligible for jury service 'cos he's been in nick within the last 10 years....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

erm maybe cos it wasn't actually real and jeffrey archer is generally more well to known to middle aged folks than megaman.

acrobat (acrobat), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

"yeh but it's like brand presenting. everything is so draped in cool, irony and this weird aggression"

that's ilx in a nutshell

iain macdonald (the_article_don), Friday, 16 February 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

"erm maybe cos it wasn't actually real and jeffrey archer is generally more well to known to middle aged folks than megaman."

So they couldn't find anyone else that middle aged folks had heard of who is eligible for jury service?

(I know it wasn't real, obv.* - but surely the object of the exercise was to make it as real as poss., using a jury who were a reasonable cross-section of the population who by some extraordinary coincidence just happened to be celebrities and to therefore appeal to as large a proportion of the population as possible?)

* - I'm wasn't 100% sure that all of the jurors realised this 'though

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Saturday, 17 February 2007 08:19 (seventeen years ago) link

'cos he's been in nick within the last 10 years....

Is it just 10 yrs? I thought it was: criminal conviction = ineligible for life.

Affectian (Affectian), Saturday, 17 February 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Isn't that for "being an MP"..?

M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 19 February 2007 08:24 (seventeen years ago) link

"Is it just 10 yrs? I thought it was: criminal conviction = ineligible for life."

Apparently not.

"Isn't that for "being an MP"..?" I don't know abouit that, but I'm not sure the Conservatives have even allowed him to rejoin the Party.

He is a Lord 'though, isn;t he? Doesn't that make him not only ineligible to be an MP (didn't Anthony Wedgwood Benn have to disavow his own title in order to become / remain an MP?) but also again make him ineligible for jury service?

It would be a bit of a joke if, as a Peer, he is member of the ultimate Court Of Appeal whilst simultaneously being ineligibe for jury service - but then Lord Archer's entire life seems to have been filled with such incongruities.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 19 February 2007 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

House of Lords as a Higher Court is not the same as the House of Lords as a legislative body, i.e. the legal function of the House of Lords is restricted to a v. small group of Law Lords. I can't remember the relevant version of the Jury Act but I'm fairly certain that Lords can sit on a jury too.

It's Expected I'm Maud Gonne (Modal Fugue), Monday, 19 February 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeffey Archer still a cunt tho'

da mystery of sandboxin' (fandango), Monday, 19 February 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Well OBVIOUSLY.

It's Expected I'm Maud Gonne (Modal Fugue), Monday, 19 February 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link


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