thread in which we talk about kinda arty kinda electronic stuff which gets compared to "The Knife" type stuff

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You know the stuff, I eat it up with a SPOON. Arty, kinda theatrical, kinda GOFFy, the more "pretentious" the better. Pitch-shifted or gender-fuX0red vocals by ladies or falsetto dudes. Planningtorock, Austra, Active Child, Grimes, We Love et cetera et cetera et cetera

MOAR.

Fotherington Thomas, Monday, 28 November 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

I was seeing Grimes getting namechecked on the "artists you haven't seen discussed" thread and I can't recall correctly but maybe one of the bobbins threads (or perhaps that was Emika, thinking about it, who we could also discuss here)

I really like Halfaxa, but I'm having a bit of trouble wrapping my head around Geidi Primes. Ridiculous Dune references should be right up my alley but I need more time with it I think.

Fotherington Thomas, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

Post-Knife stuff only?

Illia Rump (emil.y), Monday, 28 November 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

I love we love and planningtorock, will be checking out austra/active child/grimes IMMEDIATELY as this all panders directly to me

it's not really the same thing at all but Creep hits many of the same buttons for me even though they are basically straight-up witch-hop

OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

Could be pre-Knife I suppose if it's really good, but I don't want anyone to be all "ooh, there's this chick from Bexleyheath I think you'd REALLY DIGX0r..." *eyeroll*

x-post I'm not really feeling much of what supposedly qualifies as "witch house" (except maybe Demdike Stare?) but if you think it applies, go on and stick it in.

Fotherington Thomas, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

Listening to Emika's Professional Loving and that could totally fit on this thread quite happily:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxXS6WbO1HY

(do YouTubes embeds work on the sandbox?)

Fotherington Thomas, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

there are really only two songs, "Days" feat Romy XX and "You" feat Nina Sky

much more of a hip-hop vibe than what's being discussed here but still riding that same ominous/euphoric vibe

OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

oh shit, this is great!

Johnny Fever, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

xp to Emika

Johnny Fever, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I am totally digging Emika, she's really quite amazing.

I think Grimes might be a bit of an acquired taste, she has that same kind of "is this singing style for real?" as the woman from Cranes and Andi Sex Gang but I'm finding it really more-ish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrc_EGugZTU

Trying to find the song which is like witch house version of Republica's Ready To Go, I hope that's the right one there ^^^^^

Fotherington Thomas, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

Still would rep for Niki & The Dove, though they keep edging toward a more poppish direction since the early tracks. This is from last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA0zWhk3P7o

Johnny Fever, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

x-post Sorry, nope, wrong song. This is the one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i2YyUzKtSU

(Which has kind of a "Fortune Presents Gifts Not According To The Book" vibe before it turns into a witchhouse Republica. I know I'm not selling this well, but I do love it.)

Fotherington Thomas, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

omg @ Emika

OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

More where that came from. This one makes me ~melt~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp1J8wdjeP0

Fotherington Thomas, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

There's a remix/rework on that, too, which is just like WAU!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPSDo3Pe3lc

Fotherington Thomas, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

man I really thought "witchhouse Republica" would be a total Ned bat signal

OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

I think the vocal on Grimes really turns people off, but hey, like I said, I own Sex Gang Children records...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozws056COZQ

Fotherington Thomas, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

holy shit @ Emika, I am hunting this down IMMEDIATELY

OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

Ninja Choon I think?

Glad to have been of service!

Fotherington Thomas, Monday, 28 November 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

Kate Wax.

jaymc, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

http://open.spotify.com/album/22C1JrW86j6L4qFWQmI1du

Emika on Spotify, y'all

OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

Kate Wax.

tbf I haven't heard much of her, but I know she has a new album on Border Community and that she's been getting Karin Dreijer Andersson comparisons.

jaymc, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

Hey FT you would probably like this song:

L-Vis 1990 ft. Samantha Lim - Play It Cool
http://open.spotify.com/track/7mfulxMqRcJoNu17KAfoeQ

The rest of the album isn't all that, but that one song is <3<3<3

pomplamau5, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

Laurel Halo - Constant Index

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyVaNhkdGHE

pomplamau5, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

Kate Wax on Spotify: http://open.spotify.com/album/0tzNz4MT9Pgli348lfqV12

OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

I think I need to come back to the Kate Wax and try her again another day. Didn't dislike her, it just didn't immediately grab me the way I put some things on and I'm all "OOH I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE."

Fotherington Thomas, Monday, 28 November 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

Kate Wax's "Human Twin" is kind of great

OH NOES, Monday, 28 November 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

I saw Battlekat supporting Lo-Fi FNK a few weeks ago. They were really good in parts but the vocals were a little too OTT Karin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWRXVINlRng

At the poppier end of the spectrum, the i quite like the Julia Marcell record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jVk9csScOA

ShariVari, Monday, 28 November 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

Missed that Laurel Halo track yesterday. That is an EMPHATIC YES on that one.

Will work my way through the rest of the thread this morning.

Fotherington Thomas, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 10:16 (twelve years ago) link

Battlekat hmmm, I agree it's a little OTT vocally (not that that is a bad thing! at all! especially in this thread!) but I'm not sure it's Karin she's over the topping.

Fotherington Thomas, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 10:23 (twelve years ago) link

DOn't think that Laurel Halo has put out anything yet that is consistently amazing, but one or two of her songs are great. She's the singer on Games' 'Strawberry Skies' btw in case her name sounds familiar.

pomplamau5, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 10:47 (twelve years ago) link

I guess Barbara Panther fits here? Her debut is one of my favourite things for this year, though sadly people seem to have slept on it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPObpVHDQ9k

Tuomas, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, I totally <3 Barbara Panther and will rep for her, too.

Fotherington Thomas, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

Vocally she's more Björkish than Dreijerish, but other than that she's definitely in the "artsy post-house synth-pop" category.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

No love for Glasser in this thread is both surprising and disappointing.

boxedjoy, Saturday, 3 December 2011 12:39 (twelve years ago) link

I think that's because Glasser is really the trope codifier (obv The Knife is the trope namer) than any lack of Glasser love. I for one certainly love Glasser.

Fotherington Thomas, Saturday, 3 December 2011 13:21 (twelve years ago) link

cosigning that l-vis 1990/samantha lim song, really fantastic - FT did you check out creep? two of the songs i've come back to most this year.

the emika album is one of those albums i enjoy so much when i play it that i can't work out why i don't play it MORE. like, i really like it but it's not the 100% craving need that, say, glasser is.

kate wax album was aight on one listen, keep meaning to go back to it

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 13:24 (twelve years ago) link

i did check out barbara panther but i honestly don't really know what i think of it, though i suspect i need to be in a very specific mood to enjoy it

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 13:24 (twelve years ago) link

another one that i'm not sure what i think of - charli xcx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBxC5bRbruQ

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I think we discussed how the Glasser/Karin comparisons are superficial in the other thread, I just thought it was worth bringing her name again since her album is very good.

I do not get Barbara Panther at all, her voice really irritates me.

boxedjoy, Saturday, 3 December 2011 13:32 (twelve years ago) link

I love Barbara Panther's voice, it is just such a thing of joy to me. That slight squeak and whistle when she swoops up to "like moonlight people doooo!" But I recognise it probably is quite marmitey.

Lex, I have tried listening to a couple of Creep things but it just didn't seem to take with me. Maybe I should give it another try to see what it is that does/doesn't grab me.

I think that the Emika album is quite strong flavoured, and definitely a ~mood~ needed for it, it's not the kind of thing you can put on when you're walking to the shops, you need to be quite overcast and wearing your raincoat with knitted eyebrows and an expression deep in thought with mild misanthropy. Which is actually a mood I'm in quite a lot, so it's perfect for me. but other albums do not demand my emotional space the way that Emika one does.

Fotherington Thomas, Saturday, 3 December 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

I was seeing Grimes getting namechecked on the "artists you haven't seen discussed" thread

this was me. i really love her 2011 dune-themed album, geidi prime.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 3 December 2011 13:43 (twelve years ago) link

I just discovered the Emika this week. That album is an absolute must for fans of darker trip-hop like Mezzanine or Maxinequaye, but absolutely requires a decent subwoofer. Sounds pretty empty on my anemic car system.

This thread is custom made for Gazelle Twin, whose 2011 debut album is nicely poised between Lisa Gerrard and Fever Ray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANaabsQo-uA

Sanpaku, Saturday, 3 December 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

half a min in and fucking hell that gazelle twin is amazing! how did i miss it! omg

lex pretend, Saturday, 3 December 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

WOW, it's the witchIER house Dead Can Dance. Or maybe it's the new iamamywhoami?

(No, I like it. Really.)

Fotherington Thomas, Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

Who knew that early Dead Can Dance records would be the hip musical crush to namedrop in 2011? Makes me want to dig out Within The Realm Of A Dying song and flop about in white robes singing FWONTIERS! FWOOOONNNTIIIIIEEERS! FWONTIERS!

Fotherington Thomas, Saturday, 3 December 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXstxFoayxI

caek, Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

possibly off-topic but i like it

caek, Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

Caek, I think you'd really like the Jah Wobble & Julie Campbell album Psychic Life, which also sounds (in parts) like some lost On-U Sound project.

Sanpaku, Saturday, 3 December 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

emika is awesome

q: are we not bel biv men? a: we are bel biv devo (m bison), Saturday, 3 December 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah that Yang Yang song is kinda off topic but TBH it's utterly Fucken AWESOME so thanks for putting it here.

Fotherington Thomas, Saturday, 3 December 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

The Grimes half of the Grimes/d'Eon split from earlier this year is vastly superior to either Heidi Prime or Halfaxa, and everything I have heard from the new album indicates that it will be even better. Vanessa from the Darkbloom split might be my favorite track this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxC2XLePDWQ

also, I'm really enjoying Julia Marcell, so thanks for that recommendation.

fffv, Sunday, 4 December 2011 03:50 (twelve years ago) link

i like that song vanessa a lot, but i still love geidi prime.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 4 December 2011 03:51 (twelve years ago) link

LOVE this thread. I've been way behind on music this year, but this is definitely helping me catch up.

glad people are up on Emika now - i nominated "Drop the Other" in last year's trax poll but no one except lex cared. :(

Roz, Sunday, 4 December 2011 05:32 (twelve years ago) link

Don't think I was around last year to vote on EOY trax, but if I'd heard Emika then I certainly would have gone for her.

Not to turn yet *another* thread into a R@d10h34d thread but I have Thom Yorke to blame for this, after sifting through 2 hours of boring blahblah IDM on his 6mix (I got suckered into listening to it! The first track was Erykah Badu, I thought it was going to be good! it was all clicky blippy Modeselektor crap) the Emika track he played was pretty much the only one that made me ears prick up and go boy howdy. And then Lex was all "have you heard this REMIX!?!?" which was all I needed to convince me.

I like the look of Grimes' dirty makeup hair-flinging slumber party there. a++ wkiw But that is a stunningly beautiful video, and manages to capture a bunch of beautiful women having fun without being totally male gazey at all. Need to listen again without watching the video so I can get a better sense of the song because I'm worried it's distracting me.

Fotherington Thomas, Sunday, 4 December 2011 10:01 (twelve years ago) link

They only released one album before disbanding but Zeigest are practically a The Knife tribute band. Same hometown even.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo90OHJ0GxQ

Moka, Sunday, 4 December 2011 10:21 (twelve years ago) link

I've heard that song before. I thought it *was* The Knife.

The stuff in this thread doesn't have to ~sound like~ The Knife, I was really just trying to get an index on that the kind of stuff that gets "compared to" The Knife, often for fairly superficial or affinity reasons, rather than actual stylistic similarities.

Fotherington Thomas, Sunday, 4 December 2011 11:16 (twelve years ago) link

love all the grimes stuff itt

dayo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.grimesiowa.gov/

dayo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

her first album was called GEIDI PRIMES?! omg!

dayo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

If Zeigeist falls within the purview of this thread, iamamiwhoami certainly does. They have no physical releases, only arty youtube promos for Amz/iTunes/emusic singles. I suggest viewing them in chronological order as there's a narrative arc of sorts, bottom to top here.

Sanpaku, Sunday, 4 December 2011 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

her first album was called GEIDI PRIMES?! omg!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnLNZL2pvKY

yeah (might have been her second album tho). and most of the songs have dune-themes, too!

  • caladan
  • sardaukar levenbrech
  • zoal, face dancer
  • feyd rautha dark heart
  • shadout mapes

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 4 December 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

no one likes Oni Ayhun? weird people itt - guess it's the sandbox.

wolves lacan sandbox ed, Sunday, 4 December 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

hmm sorry I can't get with anybody who views face dancers as a valuable addition to the dune universe xp

dayo, Sunday, 4 December 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

grimes track crystal ball is really good btw

i wish there was the old chillwΔve thread around, wont to post a bunch of outer limits traxxxx

є(٥_ ٥)э, Sunday, 4 December 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

uhm, sorry for being rude but I can't stand that woman and her voice, that's why I think Oni is the same thing but better since it's so very faux masculine / evil or not. It's good stuff. Please continue.

wolves lacan sandbox ed, Sunday, 4 December 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe instead of making comments about how weird we all are you could, you know, post some YouTubes or Spotify links for us to check out? I'll happily listen to anything in this general theme.

Fotherington Thomas, Sunday, 4 December 2011 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

yeah stop being mean to grimes she needs positive vibes!

i don't mind her voice at all, actually. it didn't even occur to me that it's abrasive until it was mentioned here.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 4 December 2011 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

I love her voice! But I also love early Cranes records so I have a high tolerance for weirdoes.

Fotherington Thomas, Sunday, 4 December 2011 21:51 (twelve years ago) link

ah alison shaw - was wondering who she was reminding me of

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

I love her voice!

haha i didn't mean you.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 4 December 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

second track is the knife-iest, but probably the weakest song of the three

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Monday, 5 December 2011 13:46 (twelve years ago) link

More Gazelle Twin needed, yes:

http://youtu.be/BOXJS6iS1fg

whereismyquiz, Monday, 5 December 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

oh ffs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOXJS6iS1fg

whereismyquiz, Monday, 5 December 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

Grimes is good. There is one unreleased song she's been playing live all year that will be a hit, I can't find a good recording of it but this is the one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq2SSXEY3IQ

oPal, Monday, 5 December 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

Here's a much better sounding video http://player.vimeo.com/video/21480152

oPal, Monday, 5 December 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

OMG @ this Gazelle Twin album.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 5 December 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

^^^ OTM, made my afternoon

OH NOES, Monday, 5 December 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

Wow that Gazelle Twin album is fantastic. Why did no one who'd heard it start a thread about it?

Listening to this record reaffirms the importance of production and arrangement to stuff like this. I can't really get with people like Zola Jesus or Austra because while the voices are nice the arrangements and synths sound so out-of-the-box. Whereas there's great sound design and interesting stuff happening right across the Gazelle Twin record, same goes for Fever Ray and Planningtorock and the likes. I'm getting bits of Vespertine and the last Trentemoller album in there as well, and Alison Goldfrapp warbling over Tricky and the bleaker sounding Orbital tracks as well.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 09:32 (twelve years ago) link

(Same criticism applies to witch house types who use the same tinny production techniques as yr jobbing US rap producers to worse effect).

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 09:34 (twelve years ago) link

I agree with this for the most part. I get that Zola Jesus is going for some sort of goth/EBM aesthetic, but jings, it's 2011 already and I'm just not interested in cheap synth music.

dog latin, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 09:43 (twelve years ago) link

I suppose I need to spend more time with Gazelle Twin on better headphones because so far, although y'all are going bonkers for it, I still haven't had that instant "WANT this in my life!" like I had with Emika and Barbara Panther, for example.

I agree, it's much more the production and the arrangements than it is "crazy lady in the attick" voice (as much as I like crazy ladies in attics) but we probably disagree on what makes a good production because I'm not bothered by Austra, I quite like what they're doing.

Zola Jesus, though, I have really tried with, and agreed, it's just silly goth affectations. There was one thing I thought I liked by her, but I think it was a collaboration with another artist in a similar vein (heh) - I don't have Spotify on this computer so I can't even look up what it was or see if it held up under re-listening.

Fotherington Thomas, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 10:21 (twelve years ago) link

(And Owen, I can't get any of your Grimes vids to work but that might be this rub old puter not yr links)

Fotherington Thomas, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 10:23 (twelve years ago) link

Your computer, I think? Don't watch the Youtube, the Vimeo is way better.
I don't know if Grimes has anything to do with "Knife-y vocals", if anything, she sounds to me like a female Damo Suzuki, but I love that the song goes from skip-rope chant to Madonna and ends with backwards rapping. Great song!

oPal, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 10:39 (twelve years ago) link

Do I have to spell this out every 5 posts? I didn't start this thread looking for stuff that sounds JUST LIKE The Knife or even Knife-y.

I am looking for stuff that gets *compared* to The Knife, as in, shorthand for "arty, weird, slightly pretentious electronic music with non-traditional vocals that are usually female or falsetto or pitch-shifted."

Repeat to fade.

Fotherington Thomas, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 10:57 (twelve years ago) link

This might be why I'm not fully onboard with the Gazelle Twin stuff, because although the production is nice and fairly interesting, her voice is really quite "traditionally pretty" sounding and I just think I'm not really that interested in traditionally pretty girl voices at the moment.

Fotherington Thomas, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 10:59 (twelve years ago) link

I think it's quite unsettling actually, but that's probably the melodies and the treatment of the vocals rather than the voice itself.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 December 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

I want to thanks this thread for introducing me to the fantastic GRIMES

not uplifting (Abbott), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 01:43 (twelve years ago) link

cool thread! a few more picks

new ford & lopatin feat tamaryn fits here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAGIb5U5wkY

dillon. more newsomesque than electro weirdo but this tune does the trick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq6HhsWgTpo

LOL. one of the most slept on records of the year. this is great stuff. "dare me" and "quarter life crisis" are also worth tracking down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IiCiES0tAU

pandr eyez. came across these guys recently. they just put out an ep a month ago or so. sort of a poppier take on witch house, which i dig.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-OQZpy7pew

cock chirea, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 10:07 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJobaxZqy18

^ Ayshay - Warn-U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhMrFUZekww

^ Julia Holter - Goddess Eyes

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 10:12 (twelve years ago) link

This is probably not directly under the remit of this thread but I love this track so much I will take any opportunity to talk about it

Lamb - "Butterfly Effect"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzkGWdw9ieM

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:01 (twelve years ago) link

(although there are strong shades of We Love in the arrangement, now that I think about it)

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

Well, I listened to the whole Gazelle Twin album and I just wonder what I'm missing on it.

Like, I can hear that it's very obviously quite skillfully put together, and I appreciate the aesthetics ... but as a whole, it just felt leaden and plodding, and always just slightly too small, like I constantly wanted to nudge the BPM just up a little, too down-tempo, too dreamy, too bog standard "ethereal girl" which I've just done to death really and have no need to ever hear again.

I can recognise it's a well made album, it just does nothing for me.

Anyway there's a ton more videos on this thread I shall listen to now.

Fotherington Thomas, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

Too small? Too SLOW.

Fotherington Thomas, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

I thought you were saying it was too restrained and that bumping up the BPM would let it loose

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

That too, actually. I don't really know, and I don't really care to spend enough more time with that album in order to figure out what's not reaching me on it.

Fotherington Thomas, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

I want to thanks this thread for introducing me to the fantastic GRIMES

the more i think of it, the more geidi primes is one of my favorite records of the year.(n.1) i think i read an interview with grimes where she said she's embarrassed by it now, and thinks all her prior work pales in comparison to the album she's about to release early next year. i think she went as far as to almost say she wishes she hadn't released that prior work, which -- as i say -- is crazy!, since geidi primes is a very cool little disc.

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(n.1) possible it was very quietly released in late 2010, but it's basically new to everyone in 2011.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

Actually I should spend more time with Geidi Primes, too, bcuz I might tend to agree with her, but I'd still like to look into that record more. I just got SO knocked out by the sprawling *reach* of Halfaxa.

Fotherington Thomas, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

I approach the Gazelle Twin as ambient/atmosphere album, so the pace doesn't bother me. The major flaw is that its pretty front-loaded, with few highlights for me past song 6.

Anyway GT is a woman who wears masks in public and namechecks J.G. Ballard. I'm predisposed to be smitten.

Sanpaku, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

btw i also saw the twist in Incendies coming a mile off but that's cos every bloody review described it as "Greek tragedy"

Number None, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

may have seen the twist coming a mile off yet i am clearly unable to post things in the right thread

Number None, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

Actually I should spend more time with Geidi Primes, too, bcuz I might tend to agree with her, but I'd still like to look into that record more. I just got SO knocked out by the sprawling *reach* of Halfaxa.

i'm smitten with the dune-theme of the record, and i tend to hear it through that conceit. also, i think it's a charming little record, a reminder that not every good disc needs to be -- or should attempt to be -- "epic" (not everyone needs this reminder, but sometimes i do).

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

(yeah, I was this close to searching Spotify to see if Incendies was some hot new electro-pop outfit from Toronto)

x-post

OCCUPY DEPRESSION (Fotherington Thomas), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

Whoa Grimes seems to spontaneously burst into the Nyancat chant at the end of GrisGris, that threw me.

OCCUPY DEPRESSION (Fotherington Thomas), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

3 songs in and I quite like the SLEEP ∞ OVER album but I think I liked it better when it was called Livonia.

It could just be the specific reverb they are using but if someone told me this was a rerelease of a record that had come out on 4AD in 1986, I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised.

or Black Tape For A Blue Girl

OCCUPY DEPRESSION (Fotherington Thomas), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

You're quite right, there is something very 4AD about it. The album was a bit of a letdown on the whole imo, but she's someone i'm definitely looking forward to hearing more from in the future.

los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Wednesday, 7 December 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

Actually I should spend more time with Geidi Primes, too, bcuz I might tend to agree with her, but I'd still like to look into that record more. I just got SO knocked out by the sprawling *reach* of Halfaxa.

i'm smitten with the dune-theme of the record, and i tend to hear it through that conceit. also, i think it's a charming little record, a reminder that not every good disc needs to be -- or should attempt to be -- "epic" (not everyone needs this reminder, but sometimes i do).

― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, December 7, 2011 11:10 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

Geidi Primes is probably my favourite of her three releases, although they're all excellent. Watching her cobble the stuff together live is a blast, although I haven't seen her in a year or so, since the Lykke Li co-sign, NYTimes, etc. have brought her further and further afield from Montreal.

Also, while Vanessa is her most 'accessible' track, I still think the best pop song she's written is 'avi'

lexferenda, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:26 (twelve years ago) link

Also, came to post this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80Tf9XL11Bc

Not sure if CREEP fit in here, but they're wonderful and if this doesn't beat their collaboration with Nina Sky earlier this year, it's still worth a listen.

lexferenda, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

lol this is the third time Creep has been mentioned in this thread

OH NOES, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

ha. well, at any rate, the video just got released today. track out in january.

lexferenda, Wednesday, 7 December 2011 21:47 (twelve years ago) link

i don't really get this julia holter album. it's kind of like sonic decoration that plays as you're wandering around an art installation except there's no art installation

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 December 2011 10:24 (twelve years ago) link

the only time i perked up was when "so lillies" went into the 4/4 beat :/

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 December 2011 10:24 (twelve years ago) link

I am so not down with CREEP. I keep trying to get with CREEP and I think it's not them, it's me, but it's just not happening for me.

Should probably give these things another listen but I'm so full of flu today I just wanna down cough syrup and listen to J-Pop.

OCCUPY DEPRESSION (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 8 December 2011 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, I thought you had something against Red'ohed's song of the same name.

Bela Lugosi's Derrida (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Thursday, 8 December 2011 11:00 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, bring on CREEP featuring Thom Yorke and then we'll talk.

But I think that's on a level with the cough syrup induced "Thom Yorke / LOLrie Penny slash" head-splode that happened yesterday. I gotta lay off this stuff.

OCCUPY DEPRESSION (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 8 December 2011 11:02 (twelve years ago) link

the best thing about creep is that they use vocalists who are amazing, not thom yorke!

i love the new one, think i might be alone in preferring "days" to "you" though

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 December 2011 11:04 (twelve years ago) link

Lex, you can't fool me, after 2 glasses of wine you confessed to me you thought Thom Yorke's voice was pretty damned amazing when he sticks to his lower register so NYEAH NYEAH NYEAH. But whatever, you say potatoes, I say truffle fries.

OCCUPY DEPRESSION (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 8 December 2011 11:06 (twelve years ago) link

This 'changing display names' thing is fun!

I might sack it when real ILX comes back, but for now...

Jilted John and Marsha (MarkG oo la showaddywaddy), Thursday, 8 December 2011 11:18 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think I've seen Blouse mentioned itt. I don't know much about them/her but I love the track "Into Black" and the use of Les amants du Pont Neuf in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwvflpqOb5M

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 8 December 2011 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

Really liking this one from Delilah - I think she first emerged as a jobbing vocalist with Chase & Status and I assumed her solo career was going to be along the post Katy B lines, but this new one seems to indicate she might belong here just as much...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljoDXRXxjPA

OCCUPY DEPRESSION (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link

the best thing about creep is that they use vocalists who are amazing, not thom yorke!

I like Romy XX a lot but I would never call her "amazing"!

OH NOES, Thursday, 8 December 2011 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

well she's kind of amazing at what she does!

this is prob the best thread, in the sandbox era, for some NEW ROISIN MURPHY:

http://soundcloud.com/hardcandymusic/roisin-murphy-simulation

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 December 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

OMG OMG OMG WOT WOT WOT

*bookmarks thread*

Will listen tomorrow.

OCCUPY DEPRESSION (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 8 December 2011 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

Can't listen to it at the moment either but i'm excited. Nine minutes!

Number None, Thursday, 8 December 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

it's awesome. smooooove loungey deep house, róisín at her sultriest.

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 8 December 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

It's definitely pleasant in a "Matt DC on a boat" way but my fav Róisín Murphy tracks also hold together as songs and this is more of a house track with vocals imo.

thread of missing brony (sean doily), Thursday, 8 December 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

Au/Palais, the whole EP is arty/electronic, vocals are more Kate Bush than The Knife:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl4Y0vQ2UXs

Cosmo Vitelli, Thursday, 8 December 2011 23:13 (twelve years ago) link

Love that Roisin Murphy track and I would happily foot her babysitting bills for the next 18 years to get her to make a whole album of that, TBH.

OCCUPY DEPRESSION (Fotherington Thomas), Friday, 9 December 2011 11:19 (twelve years ago) link

"Matt DC on a boat"

<3 that this has become a term of reference

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 9 December 2011 11:38 (twelve years ago) link

More than a year after it originally came out, Niki & The Dove finally made a proper video for "Mother Protect"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XojSSa0jwxU

Johnny Fever, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

I'm getting quite desperate to hear the Niki & The Dove album now. I hope it features Under The Bridges which is still my favourite thing they've done.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 9 December 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

Might be my favorite too, but I really like Mother Protect and The Drummer.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 9 December 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

ayshay was mentioned upthread, which i totally cosign - "warn-u" is one of the nost interesting EPs i've heard this year - but her new fact mix just kind of blew my mind http://www.factmag.com/2011/12/05/fact-mix-307-ayshay/

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Saturday, 10 December 2011 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

I am trying to decide if I like this or not (thanks Furnace Mane for linking it on the EOY list):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydFcH5yvtWM

There's a lot in there that I could get with (I like the sparkly noises in the background) but I'm really having trouble with the vocals, like it's something I could *almost* love, but the overall effect of something that's almost there but not quite in a troublesome way I can't quite put my finger on. (Which sometimes bothers me more than something I outright have no interest in.) Maybe I should listen to the rest of the album and not decide on one single.

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Monday, 12 December 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link

It a good album of spare, almost ambient electropop, with a couple songs on the second half that are so earnest, so naive that they must be skipped to maintain the mood. Vocalist and (super?)model Sarah Ruba has a range from wispy to Liz Fraseresque that I happen to like.

Impossible to get a legit copy from North American sources which will hinder its year end rankings, perhaps they are planning a rollout in 2012.

The video just above is notable for using the Xbox Kinect output to generate realtime depth data.

Sanpaku, Monday, 12 December 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

They did a cover of Janet's He Doesn't Know I'm Alive that is pretty good, but not on the album.

lexferenda, Monday, 12 December 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

There are things I so don't understand about mine own reactions to why I'll love one artist or song, and just reject another.

Because for all the fact that CREEP leave me cold, I have to acknowledge that I utterly love and adore this song, and it's mining almost ~exactly~ the same territory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LacbQ4Lh7wk

This makes no conceptual sense to me.

(see also the whole love Austra, hate Florence thing.)

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 11:54 (twelve years ago) link

OK, I persisted beyond the single on New Look and I'm liking it a lot more. Some things bear looking a little closer at. The singer does have a much wider range than is shown by that one song. When will I ever learn not to judge an album by its singles?

rekeningopnemer (Fotherington Thomas), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

I was going to say in the other thread when you talked of moving discussion here that New Look are more focused on being tuneful and less on being arty than this thread would imply. But then the sandbox died. "Teen Need" is my jam from that album as of this moment.

malcolm the tenth (furnace mane), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:37 (twelve years ago) link

Now I'll have to read this thread cause I see there's Ayshay talk.

malcolm the tenth (furnace mane), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:37 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, Teen Need was definitely one of the songs I favourited off that album. But they did seem to be focusing more on being a pop band than making the interesting textures, and I can never quite seem to balance my need for those two things.

Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:39 (twelve years ago) link

Btw I will totally cosign Ayshay's fact mix and the Nguzunguzu megamix on the Warn-U EP. I need to check her new EP under her government name (Fatima al Qadiri) tho.

malcolm the tenth (furnace mane), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:43 (twelve years ago) link

I meant to listen to her FACT mix the other day, loaded it up and everything, but got caught up in something else. I will do that now instead of getting caught up in glam bam thank you ma'am comps.

Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:44 (twelve years ago) link

oooh new stuff from her, didn't know that

one of my favourite moments in journalism this year was getting the warn-u ep into my metro singles column right next to beyoncé

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 15 December 2011 10:46 (twelve years ago) link

OK, this stuff is absolutely awesome and hitting a lot of my happy places.

But I'm so culturally ignorant WRT the music of that part of the world that I don't have the ability to distinguish much between this, and some of the more modern ends of Baris K's sets, and the weirder bits of, like, Cafe Istanbul compilations. If they're using samples of similar source material, or if I'm just having a racist reaction of "I can't really distinguish between massively different strands of Middle Eastern traditions."

Thomosexual II (Fotherington Thomas), Thursday, 15 December 2011 11:43 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i don't really claim to be au fait with exactly what's going on here. fatima al qadiri's ep under her own name is WHOA though

http://soundcloud.com/fatima-al-qadiri/sets/genre-specific-xperieince

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpgtuWQ2vUc

degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Thursday, 15 December 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

kate: the warn-u ep is all samples of her own voice reciting islamic chants, apparently chopped up a bit to alter their meanings.

malcolm the tenth (furnace mane), Friday, 16 December 2011 00:57 (twelve years ago) link

yeah my friend sent me this a few days ago - great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsbG4pXrhr8

nice catch cuauhtemoc blanco niño (dayo), Friday, 16 December 2011 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

For this year's charity action (Music For Life), radio station Studio Brussel has arranged this cover of Luc Van Acker's Zanna - both the version and video are quite Knifish, imho:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPOWuFLcKLM

StanM, Sunday, 18 December 2011 13:08 (twelve years ago) link

If this album doesn't feature in the ILX100 this year, I may have to consider disowning you lot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8uht6FFReE

(When Saints Go Machine - Konkylie) - This isn't the best track on there, but then I enjoy the whole album all the way through.

dog latin, but cool (dog latin), Thursday, 22 December 2011 11:43 (twelve years ago) link


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