90s films that have aged more than Empire Records

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Low budgets British comedies about "raving" disqualified, btw.

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.impawards.com/1992/posters/lawnmower_man.jpg

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link

"Ursula Andress was the quintessential Bond girl. That's what everyone says. The embodiment of his superiority to us: beautiful, exotic, highly sexual and yet unavailable to everyone but him. Shite. Let's face it: if she'd shag one punter from Edinburgh, she'd shag the fucking lot of us."

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

bbbut empire records was well aged when it came out.

how about 'singles'

― urghonomic (gcannon), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

SFW, that one with Janeane Garofalo and Ethan Hawke, Hackers, The Net

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Basic Instinct, obv.

― editio princeps (pato.g27), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Oddly enough, "Slacker" is still timeless.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Single Fight Wemale?

― M Grout (Mark Grout), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

airheads

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

any of the billion heist-gone-wrong tarantino knockoffs

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Reality Bites, for sure.

― editio princeps (pato.g27), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Any Tarantino Film for that matter

― editio princeps (pato.g27), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

any of the billion heist-gone-wrong tarantino knockoffs

yessss, the 'indie crime film', ay ay ay.

― urghonomic (gcannon), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

love and a .45!

― urghonomic (gcannon), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

So I Married an Axe Murderer. Mike Myer's hair in that film is very early nineties. And painful.

― molly mummenschanz (molly d), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Watch It
Threesome

― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Freejack / Johnny mNeumonic?

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Who would have known that Hackers would stand the test of time so well?

― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Disclosure

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Jacob otm.

"It's got a killer refresh rate!"

― I am the best lyrocost since Dylan (Scourage), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I love dated 90's movies.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Before Sunrise is 90s as hell, by the sheer force of Ethan Hawke's hair.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Pump Up the Volume

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

hal hartley films

― zappi (zappi), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

We watched "Dazed & Confused" the other day. A film made in 1993 about 1976 but for some reason predicts hipster fashion of 2006 almost to a T. So much so that the "LOL didn't people dress funny in the seventies" thing is completely lost on us nowadays. Also, it's a shit film.

― wogan lenin (doglatin), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

no YOURE a shit film

― 69 (pete), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

SFW = so fucking what

― jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, it's a shit film.

Is that british for "really awesome" because then I totally agree!

― Michael (Oakland Mike), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i didn't really like it that much. what was up with the ending? the kid just goes to bed and that's it!

― wogan lenin (doglatin), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Biodome
Wayne's World (tho Ed O'neil is still funny)

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

what was up with the ending? the kid just goes to bed and that's it!

oh for fuck's sake...

― 1/2 paleontologist 1/2 basketball player (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

So I Married an Axe Murderer = yeah, although it takes place less in the 90s than in that weird personal fantasy-90s (invariably placed in San Francisco), which makes it somehow dated in exactly the right way.

And totally, Empire Records was kinda reverse-dated from the beginning, in terms of it pandering to a youth culture it didn't necessarily get, and therefore having the same weird distance and fakeness of normal "dated" stuff -- I saw it again a few months ago, though, and it was totally compelling. (Also funny how apart from one minorly successful character actor, all the young men in the movie have vanished, whereas the young women have all gone in the opposite direction: I mean, okay, Liv Tyler was huge already, and I remembered that it was Robin Tunney shaving her head, but I appreciated having a whole "OMG WTF that was Zellweger???" moment.)

What these two movies have in common: ANTHONY LAPAGLIA.

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

dog latin: do you appreciate any other linklater movies?

― grady (grady), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

it's dog latin

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

jesus christ dog latin

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

i just checked his filmography and believe it or not i haven't seen any of them.

― wogan lenin (doglatin), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

WHAT? WHAT?!

― wogan lenin (doglatin), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

dazed and confused is a shit film?! my mouth = moving, no words.

http://www.criterionco.com/asp/release.asp?id=336

― piscesboy (piscesboy), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Hackers did age pretty well

― jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

an ilxer auditioned for hackers!!

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

omg

― jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going to take a stab in the dark and assume that all the people going "Dog Latin! LOL!" instead of actually writing, y'know, sentences that make sense, are big fans of "Dazed And Confused" and feel that my saying that I didn't like it very much is some big movie faux pas.

Okay maybe it wasn't shit. If it had been shit I wouldn't have watched the whole thing. But really, what makes this superior and funnier than any other vaguely stoner-ish teen movie. Better than Wayne's World, Harold And Kumar, How High, Friday, Bill And Ted's Excellent Adventure and Cheech & Chong? Better than any other high school movie of it's time?

There was little plot to speak of, I didn't really notice many jokes either, unless you call young boys being physically abused with cricket bats funny.

― wogan lenin (doglatin), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

BUMPADDLE

― I am the best lyrocost since Dylan (Scourage), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/bobbysixer/april2600-outside.jpg

HACKERS

― jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

then again, i was stoned when i watched it so maybe you need to be sober to enjoy it.

― wogan lenin (doglatin), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

There was little plot to speak of, I didn't really notice many jokes either

This reminds me of something else...

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

If you didn't notice plot or LOLOMG jokez, why compare it to various stoner comedies that are all about plot and LOLOMG jokez?

― milo (milo), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

cant hardly wait

― thebingo (thebingo), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

No mention of Son In Law yet?

― milo (milo), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Dig deeper, DL - you're almost thru to China!

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Go seems kind of dated, with the raving and everything.

― milo (milo), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

hmmm would swingers qualify..

― thebingo (thebingo), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes. Sega Genesis NHL, chain wallets, BIG BAD VOODOO DADDY, Lauren Graham

― milo (milo), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

a slim Jon Favreau...

― thebingo (thebingo), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

skinny Vince Vaughn

― milo (milo), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Sega Genesis NHL

Mallrats

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

HEATHER Graham

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

close enough

― milo (milo), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

WHOS YOUR FAVORITE NEW KID

― thebingo (thebingo), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, call me Joey. Oh, come on. Don't make me get loose. Yeah, that's right. Call me Donnie. Oh, girl. Oh, please don't go girl.

― thebingo (thebingo), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

milo, you don't know how wrong you are.

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

swingers is a pretty bad movie

― 69 (pete), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

The Doom Generation

― Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Hackers did age pretty well

You're in the butterzone now, baby.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I still like the Crow.

Fortunately, I never saw any of the sequels.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh right, and not to restart the whole Swingers vs. Singles debate where y'all fucks revealed your deep psychotic natures and for some reason thought Swingers was better (seriously, I lost all respect for everyone that day), but seriously: Singles is really not dated! Not in a pop-cultural sense, anyway. I mean, there are a lot of really time-specific things in it (grunge band, duh), but they're treated naturalistically enough, just as background and color, that they just seem period-appropriate, not the kind of "look how hip and modern it is" that dates really wildly. Story-wise ... you could just rewardrobe everyone and it'd function just as precisely as a current film. (In fact I think it'd be more successful as a current film, to be honest, what with its slight proto-Braffian qualities) (though we're talking proto-Braffian without the cutesy mugging and sappiness and all the offensive things about Braffianness.) Seriously, Singles is really great and probably one of the films I'm fondest of, and claims that it's "dated" are more dependent on associating it with a dated moment (cf Douglas Coupland), or a dated period of one's own development (cf "I liked Coupland when I was 17, but not anymore"), despite the fact that its content is fairly straightfoward and unconstrained by time, and if you made it today (and just changed the obvious signifiers, like grunge band becomes jangly indie band) I'm sure people of a certain age would be just as quick to feel the same sort of moment-specific kinship with it.

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

NB screaming trees >>>>>>>>> the shins

― 69 (pete), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

spin doctors, screaming trees and soul asylum...one of 1993'2 greatest concerts and i was there...ugh.

― thebingo (thebingo), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

OPO: CITIZEN DICK

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I must've missed the case of Swingers v Singles, as I will always testify in favor of Singles.

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

all I remember about Singles - Bridget Fonda was cuet. Was The Piven in it?

― milo (milo), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

If any of you would like to help me mentally re-cast Swingers as its 2006 equivalent, please feel free. I feel like Leelee Sobieski will wind up in Bridget Fonda's place, but Campbell Scott turns out to still be the official Campbell Scott model, and I'm not sure the cultural role of Being Eric Stoltz even exists in the new century.

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Pardon me, I meant Singles!!! Swingers 2006 would probably star the same dicktards as before, only fatter now.

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Eric Christian Olsen

BTW NABISCO IS SO NOT MONEY

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Swingers = scab on humanity's withered asshole.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

god people dressed so awesome in 92-93!

― 69 (pete), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

hahahahaha you're so money Ned

― latebloomer: glutton for PUNishment (clonefeed), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

What does swing become in nu-Swingers? What do douchebag late-20s wannabe-actors listen to now?

― milo (milo), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

― 69 (pete), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

The Shins, duh.

― Roz (Roz), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

The Shinys.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

What does swing become in nu-Swingers?

Bluegrass / country

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

the new swingers will take place entirely in apartments with WoW players/cosplay geeks.

― latebloomer: glutton for PUNishment (clonefeed), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Plus the dudes in Swingers weren't all into swing, or anything, it was just a convenient dating backdrop. They came off more like late-breaking Pearl Jam / Beastie Boys / listen-to-Dre-before-going-out guys.

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

There was little plot to speak of, I didn't really notice many jokes either
This reminds me of something else...

-- Dom Passantino (juror...), December 20th, 2006.

i.e. Dom Passantino's ILX posts 2000-present

― wogan lenin (doglatin), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Go seems kind of dated, with the raving and everything.

because people don't go raving anymore...

but i do know what you mean. then again that film came out in, maybe 1996? so to brits i suppose a film about raving was already dated. then again we made human traffic after that and that blew more than any film ever.

― wogan lenin (doglatin), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

proto-Braffian qualities

!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― grady (grady), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Suburbia. Also shit.

― marcos (mucho), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Sad thing dating Go: it was made back during the glorious dreamy days where a person could look forward to seeing Sara Polley in a film. :(

(After seeing that Hal Hartley movie she was in, I think I decided she was basically the Jared Leto of women: i.e., so pleasant to look at that in every film they're inevitably beaten, tortured, or subjected to some other form of bodily distress -- has Jared Leto ever been in a film where he doesn't wind up bloodied or strung out or dead?) (I think this role is being passed along to James Franco, though.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Spiceworld, probably.

― Chap (chap), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

the new swingers will take place entirely in apartments with WoW players/cosplay geeks

No, that's the plot to ILXors.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

dog latin: rent one Slacker.

― grady (grady), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I met my fiancé at a HACKERS 2 drinking game party. Perfect start.

― Abbott (Abbott), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

You wastrel, you drunkard. Well done.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Singles is the only non-nauseating movie Cameron Crowe has ever directed, but I think I only think that because of Campbell Scott.

I'm really glad no one has taken any shots at Clueless. best 90s movie evah!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

even by the standards of mr. crowe, singles is a warm bucket of watered-down urine. only defensible if you got lucky at the end of the date.

(ha, we disagree)

― bill sackter (bill sackter), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

also, nabisco, any female actor is liable to be the Jared Leto of women in the sense you describe...he's more like the chick of male actors.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

any of the billion heist-gone-wrong tarantino knockoffs

-- a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (slytus...), December 20th, 2006.

otm

― latebloomer: glutton for PUNishment (clonefeed), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

haha wrt Hackers, I remember when I first saw it thinking "man, we will never see any of these kids in any movie ever again, will we?".

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

http://us.imdb.com/List?year=1890-1899&&tv=off

― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Killing Zoe

― Darin Fabrick (Darin), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i was hoping the new millennium would eliminate the need for gerund-noun movie titles but sadly...no.

― latebloomer: glutton for PUNishment (clonefeed), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

chasing amy

― remy bean (bean), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Coming in 2007, Rob Schneider in ... Making Copies.

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Let us allow, though, that gerunds are particularly suited to film titles, because they are nouned-out versions of verbs, and of course people want their films to be about active verb-type processes, which, when observed through a camera and then titled, are inevitably going to wind up gerunds. Gerunds and film just go hand in hand. The very first films ever -- isn't the first one "Man Washing a Horse?"

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Like a still image is titled after the things in it -- "Man with Guitar" -- but then as soon as you add motion it becomes "Man Playing Guitar."

Coming in 2006: Nabisco IS ... Explaining the Obvious.

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

"streaking athlete" I thought?

― remy bean (bean), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

& also, fuck 'washing a horse'

― remy bean (bean), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

well i wasn't referring to gerunds being used within titles, i was lamenting the overuse of "single gerund, single noun" titles such as Chasing Amy, Finding Forrester, etc.

there was a period (mid-late 90's) where every other movie coming out seemed to have one of those titles.

― latebloomer: glutton for PUNishment (clonefeed), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm really glad no one has taken any shots at Clueless. best 90s movie evah!

AMAZING movie and filmed on my college's campus.

Gerund-noun Titles:

Chasing Amy
Killing Zoe
Finding Forrester
Boxing Helena
Raising Arizona
Driving Miss Daisy
Guarding Tess
Leaving Las Vegas
Saving Private Ryan
Being John Malkovich
Saving Silverman
Finding Nemo

― max (maxreax), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

chasing miss daisy
killing nemo
driving john malkovich

― remy bean (bean), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

i remember when GO came out i thought it was totally BADASS.

― maunders (maunders), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Assuming that the plots as well as the titles are combined, Boxing Miss Daisy would be the most disturbing movie I could imagine.

― max (maxreax), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned is SO money.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i remember when GO came out i thought it was totally BADASS.

-- maunders (mandeewrigh...), December 20th, 2006.

lol me too. FWIW it's actually a pretty good pulp fiction ripoff.

― latebloomer: glutton for PUNishment (clonefeed), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Movie titles that begin with present participles

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

driving john malkovich

that works, actually

― jergins (jergins), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Teaching Mrs. Tingle

― Michael (Oakland Mike), Thursday, 21 December 2006 00:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Gerund-noun Titles:

No, those are just verbs.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 21 December 2006 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

A gerund actually functions as a noun. "Fishing is peaceful."

Ok, I'm done.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 21 December 2006 00:42 (seventeen years ago) link

No I'm not. Even nabisco got this wrong. "Man Washing a Horse" is not a gerund, because "washing" is the verb. Likewise, "Regarding Henry" is not a gerund because even though it's not specified, someone or something is regarding Henry. Still a verb. If the film title were, "Regarding Is An Activity I Most Enjoy," then it would be a gerund.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 21 December 2006 00:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, it can act as a verb within a clause, as it can be modified by an adverb or have an object.

― Michael (Oakland Mike), Thursday, 21 December 2006 00:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Hm. Complicated. Maybe it can act as a verb as well, but what makes it a gerund is that its primary function in the sentence is that of subject.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 21 December 2006 01:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Umm, no, Kenan, I think you're just wrong here: the word's a gerund whether it itself is being used as a noun or whether it's part of a clause that functions as a noun.

If the word "washing" in "Nabisco washing a horse" were actually a verb, then "Nabisco washing a horse" would be a complete sentence. And it's not a complete sentence, because it's a gerund.

In order to be an proper verb, and not a gerund, the "washing" in there would actually need a helper -- it'd be "Nabisco is washing a horse" or "Nabisco was washing a horse."

(Wikipedia will back me up on this: In today's English, it [a gerund] can behave as a verb within a clause (so that, for example, it may be modified by an adverb or have an object), but the clause as a whole (sometimes consisting only of one word, the gerund) acts as a noun within the larger sentence. I.e., the fact that it can do that doesn't make it not a gerund anymore.)

― the pony-poop paradox (the pony-poop paradox), Thursday, 21 December 2006 01:55 (seventeen years ago) link

P.S. Also all the others here are interpreted by normal English speakers as straightforward gerunds! Nobody sees the title Finding Nemo and interprets as some sort of sentence fragment! [(A Bunch of Fish Are) Finding Nemo??] Any native speaker is going to interpret it as being about the act (a noun) of finding Nemo.

P.P.S. You're right about Regarding Henry, though, but not because it's a verb. The title isn't meant to be about the act of Regarding Henry, like sitting there looking carefully about him -- it's supposed to come off as phatic speech, like "regarding your memo of 12/4" or About Last Night. So while I guess you might read it as a gerund, it's definitely intended as a preposition.

― the pony-poop paradox (the pony-poop paradox), Thursday, 21 December 2006 02:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I see. So because it's not a sentence, only a clause, it still needs a verb to make it not a gerund. Because "man washing a horse" is a noun clause, so it's a noun in its totality, so it's a gerund. I understand.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 21 December 2006 02:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Getting education from ILX since 2003.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 21 December 2006 02:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Learning Shit

― max (maxreax), Thursday, 21 December 2006 02:29 (seventeen years ago) link

n1tsuh laudandum est

(that's a gerundIVE, btw)

― I am the best lyrocost since Dylan (Scourage), Thursday, 21 December 2006 02:30 (seventeen years ago) link

GO was dated as soon as it came out imho. i remember i was 14 at the time and i was all like "lawl this is so 1998" :'(((

imho reality Bites + Threesome own this thread

― aidsy (aidsy), Thursday, 21 December 2006 03:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Social snobery. A gerund 'cuts' a gerundive

http://www.stcustards.free-online.co.uk/topp/latin/latin3.gif

The gerund attacks some peaceful pronouns

http://www.stcustards.free-online.co.uk/topp/latin/latin4.gif

― aidsy (aidsy), Thursday, 21 December 2006 03:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i like Swingers; yes, the swing thing is a complete backdrop to this, and generally speaking I think the dialogue in it is pretty funny.

What about Showgirls?

― akm (akmonday), Thursday, 21 December 2006 03:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Threesome, ugh.

― grady (grady), Thursday, 21 December 2006 04:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Showgirls is timeless, evergreen, and beyond this thread.

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Thursday, 21 December 2006 04:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Why are Jon Stewart and Ben Stiller talking specifically about gerunds tonight? If I were on acid, this would be freaking me the fuck out.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 21 December 2006 04:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Kicking & Screaming is what I think of when I think of 90s mediocrity (the decent reviews this received baffle me to this day, it's all so ineffectual and blah)

― bliss (blass), Thursday, 21 December 2006 04:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Kicking and Screaming! and I have watched it, uh, more recently than the '90s.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 21 December 2006 08:14 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.tradeplace.biz/bild.php?subid=70020&picid=2727_16739.png

― milo (milo), Thursday, 21 December 2006 08:18 (seventeen years ago) link

The very first films ever -- isn't the first one "Man Washing a Horse?"

I was once reading an old newspaper from the 1900's or 1910's, and there was an ad for a cinema, and among the films they were showing was one titled Negroes Stealing Melons, Chased by Ghosts. Clearly that was the Snakes on a Plane of its era.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 21 December 2006 08:51 (seventeen years ago) link

haha aidsy! i love those.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 21 December 2006 09:06 (seventeen years ago) link

still funny:

http://www.mcsweeneys.net/

FAVORITE GERUND
MOVIE TITLES,
UN-GERUNDED.

BY IAN CAREY
- - - -

Rita, Educated

Forrester Found

I Served Sara

Raoul Was Eaten

The Stone Is Romanced

We Have Raised Arizona

The Waves Are Broken

I Drove That Old Bitch Miss Daisy

Helena Is in a Box and We Made This Piece of Shit Movie About It

Harry Deconstructed

Mona Is in the Process of Being Drowned

We Left Las Vegas, After Getting Totally Wasted

Home Stolen

Kill Zoe (Vol. 1)

Henry Was Regarded

Ryan Saved Privately

Isaiah Is or Has Been Lost

John Malkovich Has Been Been

The Cube, Gleamed

-- ENRQ (miltonpinsk...), August 10th, 2004.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 21 December 2006 09:06 (seventeen years ago) link

driving john malkovich

that works, actually

Especially if we assume "malkovich" is some Eastern European slang word for "crazy".

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 21 December 2006 09:13 (seventeen years ago) link

im a big kicking and screaming fan too...i watched it a few months ago again when it was released on dvd.

― thebingo (thebingo), Thursday, 21 December 2006 13:17 (seventeen years ago) link

"They're forming some sort of megaperson!"

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Thursday, 21 December 2006 13:25 (seventeen years ago) link

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