cinema wunderkind Steven Spielberg is 60 today

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Gather those Reese's Pieces. And don't fuck with the Jews.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

or truckers.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

RIP

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

And fuck one dad.

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

jesus, this is awful ; (

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i can only try to imagine what could have been...

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

The RIP was enough, guys.

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

you can't dictate when my tears will flow and for whom

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I was heartened to read recently that mammoth bore Jacques Rivette called Spielberg "an asshole" (he prefers James Cameron).

^Rapozer with first post to follow "RIP," so APPARENTLY NOT

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Are Cameron's movies longer then Spielberg's?

― dan selzer (dan selzer), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Aliens was longer than Jaws

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I expected more acrimony on this thread.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

you don't need to buy him anything, morbs.

― Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, where Morbius? (and fuck the Rivette haters)

― C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

I was thinking of a DO NOT USE HANKS OR CRUISE reminder card.

Colin:

http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/01/16/rivette.html

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't wait for Thomson's wunderkind-turned-75 in 2021.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

*er, Thomson's wunderkind-turned-75 essay in 2021.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Jacques Rivette called Spielberg "an asshole" (he prefers James Cameron)

He prefers Verhoeven to either.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, well...

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course, I don't know what he's going on about in the first place. They've all made bad movies in the past.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 18 December 2006 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Plus, he's right x 1 million about this one:

Funny Games (Michael Haneke, 1997)
What a disgrace, just a complete piece of shit!

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 18 December 2006 23:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I have had two people comment on my resemblance to Steven Spielberg in the last year. Don't see it myself, except we're both bearded blondish hebes.

― a bulldog fed a cookie shaped like a kitten (austin), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

he's filming nazis in heaven tonight :(

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 03:48 (seventeen years ago) link

rivette's takedown of Joe Mank is masterful.

― bliss (blass), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 04:12 (seventeen years ago) link

oh what a bummer ;_;

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 07:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I understand he's bequeathed his final, unfilmed project to Jean-Luc Godard.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 07:23 (seventeen years ago) link

On top of which the actress is awful, unwatchable, the most slovenly girl to appear on the screen in a long, long time. That's why it's been such a success with young girls, especially inhibited, slightly plump American girls who see the film over and over as if they were on a pilgrimage: they recognize themselves in her, and dream of falling into the arms of the gorgeous Leonardo.

i don't even like kate winslet but fuck what an asshole.

― j.d. (j.d.), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 08:26 (seventeen years ago) link

otm, what a wanker.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 12:22 (seventeen years ago) link

he's also wrong about melville.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey JD, he's French.

Thread turned out rofflish, thx s1ocki and Eric!

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't even like kate winslet but fuck what an asshole

i sorta like kate winslet and his explanation there is far from his own

― nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I heart Kate, not least because she looks like a normally proportioned lovely woman.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't hate it, but I was more taken with La Femme Nikita (1990) and The Professional (1994). I can't wait to see his Joan of Arc.

heh

― urghonomic (gcannon), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Titanic-era Winslet was very attractive (now, less so). Which wouldn't have stopped her from playing "slovenly." I guess he does say "the actress," not the character, though, so it's more likely than not that's what he means.

― nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

jesus, this is awful ; (

what is ?

― Ste (fuzzy), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I admire him for sticking up for Sigourney Weaver.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Sticking up for Sigourney Weaver is one thing, sticking up for Alien Resurrection is a whole bag of wrong.

Seems like he entirely missed the point of Haneke's Funny Games too.

― ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

sticking up for Alien Resurrection is a whole bag of wrong

OTM x 1000

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Seems like he entirely missed the point of Haneke's Funny Games too.

Could be, but he's right about it being shit in any case.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Well not having actually seen it I guess I'm no position to argue that point.

― ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

And you're more in a position to argue he missed the point?

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Well I know that it was a comment on movie violence - on how excessive and pervasive it has become, and an attempt to indicate how repulsive such violence actually is - and I know I already find movie violence pretty distasteful so didn't need or want to see it. Whereas Rivette seemed to just see it as a nasty violent film full stop.

― ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Rivette, Eric breathlessly await Haneke's US Funny Games with Naomi Watts. I merely await the Kennedy Center Honors special w/SPIELBERG to see if they restage the jitterbug from 1941 or Kate Capshaw's "Anything Goes," two of the greatest musical numbers of post-Golden Age Hollywood.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

1941 is such a fun movie, my favourite Spielberg no doubt.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Amy Irving >>> Kate Capshaw

However, "Anything Goes" in Chinese is about the best thing ever.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Had Amy Irving or Kate Capshaw starred in Moulin Rouge it would've kept me from leaving after the first 20 minutes.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Capshaw is a better screamer (in Temple of Doom, not nec in wifely duties).

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Moulin Rouge had far more problems than Nicole Kidman.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

(than Nicole Kidman's involvement in it, I mean)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

ie ADD editing. And bad songs.

(Eric, I was gonna shoehorn in how my first viewing of All That Jazz in 20 years produced a bad reaction to Fosse Egomania, but I think I'll wait for reg ILX to do it justice)

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

heard it all before, not interested

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

ah, so much for the how'd-the-surgeons-find-the-heart joke

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/gallery/2001/07/03/DickTracy.jpg

hi dere

― nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.fantasfilm.com/image/x-mobetterblues90-c1.jpg

― nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

"No heart to burn."

― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

my favorite musical scene, unsurprisingly, is the Sally Rand/F104/meaningful looks ballet to Clair de Lune near the end of The Right Stuff (also stolen, mildly annoyingly, for the end of Ocean's Eleven)

― nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I quite like the musical number in Tank Girl. Perhaps because it is the only watchable part of the film.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's about time to take the kind out of that phrase...and arguably the winder too. I fucking adored AI tho.

― Abbott (Abbott), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

well, I only used it cuz I started seeing his films when he was in his late 20s. (HIP *SNAPS*)

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Fosse as The Snake in The Little Prince, is where it's at:
http://mlight.typepad.com/moomin_light/images/little_prince_and_fosse.jpg

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Jaws fun fact: Roy Scheider (surprisingly credible) replaced Richard Dreyfuss (way too young if appropriately druggy and pudgy) in All That Jazz

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

who's gonna helm 'indie 4' now?

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:36 (seventeen years ago) link

No one, I hope (and that looks very possible; anyone but Spielberg will have the whiff of cash-in from the get-go):

http://imdb.com/news/sb/2006-11-08#film1

I'd much rather see the Lincoln movie.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

lucas in weird shock.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Alien Resurrection >>> Aliens

― milo (milo), Friday, 22 December 2006 04:44 (seventeen years ago) link

buuuuuuulllllllshit

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Friday, 22 December 2006 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Lucas in having tastes in scripts shock.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 22 December 2006 05:56 (seventeen years ago) link

spielberg should just film the lincoln movie using the indy4 script

― j.d. (j.d.), Friday, 22 December 2006 05:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I miss the Christopher Nolan to remake The Night of the Hunter with Vince Vaughn thread.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 22 December 2006 06:01 (seventeen years ago) link

well, having taste to detect bad Frank Darabont scripts might not be beyond Lucas.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i think it's good, that he went out on one of his best films.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

"I don't think so. ... I just think it's fantastically bizarre that for a project that people have been trying to crack for ten years and have a writer come in and finally crack it and then ... [for Lucas to] say, 'No, I don't think so...' It's just bizarre to me.

His logic makes me wonder at how he sequenced his plot.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i bet the script was fine and lucas was just being a douche

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i mean if there's one guy you shouldn't trust with a script

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i bet the script was fine and lucas was just being a douche

He couldn't find a way to graft some sort of Joseph Campbell/modern mythology onto it.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

He couldn't find a way to graft some sort of ~~Joseph Campbell/modern mythology~~ embarrassingly obvious racial stereotypes onto it.

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Stereotypes belong in Indiana Jones films (homage to '30s serials, halloo).

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

and Darabont films.

http://www.movieactors.com/freezeframes-77/ShawShank5.jpeg

http://scatt.bilegrip.com/greenmile.jpg

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 22 December 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

touché

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Friday, 22 December 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

That Green Mile production still has been giving me teh rofflz for seven years now, and has incited impromtu caption contests that always begin: "Wit dis here finger ..."

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 22 December 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

"god, pull my finger"

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Friday, 22 December 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

boy I just love that Frank Darabont's, how do you say, ouevre

― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 22 December 2006 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

so what stereotype is Morgan Freeman supposed to be exactly?

― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 22 December 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

A black man in jail.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 22 December 2006 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

specifically, the only black man in Shawshank and, coincidentally, the only guilty man there

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 22 December 2006 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

were those other prisoners not guilty?

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Friday, 22 December 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

interesting. So the steretype being reinforced here is that of... black men as prison-bound? (mid-century or now?) I'm sort of unfamiliar with that stereotype, I must admit, or at least its being widespread. But assuming for the sake of argument that it exists, how precisely is it reinforced by there being just a single black man amongst hundreds of prisoners, regardless of whether he's a major character in the movie?

As far as the "only guilty man at Shawshank" goes, I could be charitable in supposing that you just didn't pay enough attention to catch the hit-you-over-the-head point that it equaled the 'only honest man at Shawshank', but I admit that might not be what I really think.

― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 22 December 2006 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Um, that was exactly my point. Black men in prison as being in their saintly element. I'm not retarded.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 22 December 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

But hey, maybe Darabont's got it in him to make as interesting a statement on race as Crash. We'll just have to wait and see.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 22 December 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

so the stereotype is that of a black man, in prison, who is a saint. I gotta say I'm even less familiar with that one. Though I may not be educated enough to know, as a non-xtian, what a 'saint' is.

I don't think Darabont is especially interested in statements on race. But I wouldn't know, given that I can't imagine being able to watch more than 90 seconds of the Green Mile and am unfamiliar with anything else he may have done other than Shawshank, a not great but quite good movie.

― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 22 December 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

the "magic negro" with the mysterious power to absolve/assuage the white man's guilt is a totally common literary trope/stereotype wtf.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 December 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

what "white man's guilt," precisely, is being assuaged/absolved in the Shawshank Redemption?

― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 22 December 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

(see also "mammy"/fecund-earth-mother stereotype for black women - judging from the preview Cuaran's "Children of Men" currently milks this one)

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 December 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

beats me I don't watch Steven King movies. I was referring more to the Green Mile.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 December 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

(which I have also not watched in its entirety - ha!)

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 December 2006 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

wait - that was written by Stephen King too wasn't it...? ah well

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 December 2006 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, yes, there isn't much white man's guilt to be assauged in Shawshank, given Andy D. actually IS innocent.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 22 December 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm no fan of Shawshank, but it's a masterpiece compared to The Green Mile, which doesn't even have the decency to be as funny as that production still.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 22 December 2006 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

(someone plz link that Chappelle show bit between King and Paul Mooney...)

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 December 2006 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

What the fuck happened to this thread?!?!

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Saturday, 23 December 2006 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link

it got ILFed

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Saturday, 23 December 2006 02:43 (seventeen years ago) link

countermeasures!

http://maccise.com/uploaded_images/crank-791394.jpg

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Saturday, 23 December 2006 05:40 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0388482/T259.jpg

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 23 December 2006 07:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Shakey, is The Dead Zone a "Stephen King movie"?

I swore off any future Darablunt movies after Shawshank (it doesn't surprise me that Demneb enjoys yuppie fairytales).

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 December 2006 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

The Dead Zone is a Christopher Walken movie. Possibly a Cronenberg movie, too. Then again, "Stephen King movie" isn't the first thing that flies into my head regarding Shawshank so please do not take this as answering for anyone but the vaguely rational.

― Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Sunday, 24 December 2006 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

"vaguely rational" sorta sums up Frank Darabont.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 December 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Stephen King movies were so uniformly good for the first decade that I think it's great to refer to them as "Stephen King movies."

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 24 December 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

So what night is Kennedy Center Honors on?

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 December 2006 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

glad james brown wasn't overshadowed by this.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Indy 4 has been announced as a go-ahead.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

but WHOSE SCRIPT

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

acc to Variety, David Koepp.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

http://mubi.com/notebook/posts/spielberg-65

― Dr Morbius, Sunday, 18 December 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

hope you all made the Face

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 19 December 2011 03:06 (twelve years ago) link

link to the Press Play series on Spielberg that started last week.

― gukbe, Monday, 19 December 2011 03:20 (twelve years ago) link

interview w/ Michael Kahn, who has edited all of his films since Close Encounters.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/pressplay/abf3f2b0-28f7-11e1-97b6-123138165f92

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

My local critic interviewed him a couple days ago. Spielberg outs himself again as the director of Poltergeist.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/16/2549234/steven-spielberg-strikes-back.html#storylink=misearch

― Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

Poor Tobe Hooper.

― Detrius of Life (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 December 2011 00:00 (twelve years ago) link

I really just can't enjoy this guy's movies. apart from Jaws, I guess.

― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 December 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

can't believe it's been 6 years since he made a good film, longest stretch of his career! Tintin or War Horse better turn out well because i don't want to have to wait until Lincoln to get my fix.

also I'm probably taking classes with Joseph McBride this semester, I hear he's a real self-aggrandizing jerkoff. hooray!

― Cosmo Vitelli, Thursday, 22 December 2011 03:34 (twelve years ago) link

Jaws and Jews: The Films of Steven Spielberg

― wrinklepause, Thursday, 22 December 2011 03:55 (twelve years ago) link

I hate that Morbs loves this fuckin guy

― undervalued aerosmith tchotchkes sold in bulk, Thursday, 22 December 2011 04:04 (twelve years ago) link

http://thefabempire.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/4426857011_7fc3c97e84.jpg

― monomaniatee (t. silaviver), Thursday, 22 December 2011 04:27 (twelve years ago) link

Saw "War Horse" a few weeks back. Great looking, big and Ford-ian yet SUPER hokey in the character/acting dept. Possibly his most straight-up old fashioned picture.

― Jay To The Vee Ee Eee, Thursday, 22 December 2011 14:57 (twelve years ago) link

just working on Bam biopic up there

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 22 December 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

Saw "War Horse" a few weeks back. Great looking, big and Ford-ian yet SUPER hokey in the character/acting dept. Possibly his most straight-up old fashioned picture.

This. I kinda dug it tho.

― Detrius of Life (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 December 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

More than Ford, anyway.

― Detrius of Life (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 December 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

I just do not see a lotta Ford in this movie, suspect it's fueled by younger critics who've seen 3 Ford pictures.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 22 December 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

Ford more for me in the visuals: obvious ottomh "How Green Was My Valley", "The Quiet Man", "The Searchers" (all in first "Countryside" section of film). Kubrick in second (War) section: "Barry Lyndon", "Paths Of Glory" obv.

Have seen pretty much every avail. Ford pic, if that matters at all.

― Jay To The Vee Ee Eee, Thursday, 22 December 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

Also, not a critic.

Eric H - I dug it as well except for maybe that goddawful acting by the "French" farmgirl.

― Jay To The Vee Ee Eee, Thursday, 22 December 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, I didn't mean you or Eric.

I thought of "Paths Of Glory" too, but perhaps inevitable if you're doing a reverse dolly in a trench.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 22 December 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

I guess that's the White House theatre up there?

― C.K. Dexter Holland, Thursday, 22 December 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

When I talked about Spielberg with my class on Monday--I showed them the second-shark-attack sequence, with the amazing reverse-zoom of Roy Scheider--I asked them how many had seen E.T.. Two or three hands went up, in a class of 24 (I teach grade 6). I find that amazing.

― clemenza, Thursday, 22 December 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

it is really never shown on cable or hbo, etc which always seemed strange to me. i guess maybe the rights are tied up?

― j crunchwrap supreme, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

very small pct of kids seem interested in anything that isn't going on right now, unless parents foist it on them (which explains my friend's 15-yo son whose favorite film is The Long Goodbye).

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

and that's alright with me.

― flexidisc, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

when was it ever any different

― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

kids in the 80s didn't get excited about watching old Flash Gordon serials, they were excited about ET and Empire Strikes Back

― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

also ET is a shitty movie

― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

It's a very good movie, but it really isn't very much of a kids movie IMHO

― remy bean in exile, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

when was it ever any different

I hate to tell you Shakes but I know many kids from the '60s and '70s who were fully versed in Abbott & Costello, Our Gang, the 3 Stooges, Marx Bros, Laurel & Hardy, Chaplin, Lucille Ball, John Wayne etc.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

that stuff was on TV all the time. ET is not.

― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

how is ET a shitty movie? The writing, acting, and framing are top notch.

― Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, ET is an actually great piece of filmmaking.

The biggest influence in kids' movie taste is parental movie taste. Most parents probably don't want to re-watch ET with their kids on account of it being really sad and also having seen it a bajillion times in their own life, and it being so ingrained in their own cultural DNA due to growing up at a certain/time place where it was ubiquitous.

― remy bean in exile, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

ET is so cutesy it makes my teeth hurt

― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

Not really.

― Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

One of the many things it nails is how kids are indifferent or cruel to each other, how adults condescend to children, and how siblings find recourses in each other.

― Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

Ouuuuch.

― Mordy, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

the kids are good, it's more ET that I find irritating

― aesthetic partisan (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

shakey phone home

― remy bean in exile, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

turn on your heartlight, grouchypants

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 22 December 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

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