heroes blows. --teeny

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I think it's kinda okay, though.

hmmm - superguy watchmaker. Where have I seen that before?

― austin!$#@!, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

fuckin SUCKS

― chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 02:25 (nineteen years ago)

i watched the premiere and it was stupid. but ive heard it got better after that.

― grady (grady), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 02:26 (nineteen years ago)

It has it's moments - I wouldn't go any further than that.

― austin#$@#@!, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

"save the cheerleader, save the world"...i mean who the fuck watches this shit?

― deep space nine (deep space nine), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

is it wrong of me to make connections between the way comic book dudes think about the world and that the two female heros are a cheeleader and a porn star/ stripper?

― grady (grady), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

every kevin smith movie ever

― deep space nine (deep space nine), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 02:38 (nineteen years ago)

kevin smith has one line.

― grady (grady), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 02:38 (nineteen years ago)

"is it wrong of me to make connections between the way comic book dudes think about the world and that the two female heros are a cheeleader and a porn star/ stripper?"

That's terribly unfair. Since then they've added a truckstop waitress.

Oh, uh - nevermind, then.

― austin!@$#, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

is it wrong of me to make connections between the way comic book dudes think about the world and that the two female heros are a cheeleader and a porn star/ stripper?

yes.
this is more like the way frat boys view women.

for a more accurate view of the way comic book dudes view women watch the venture bros.

― chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

http://drworm.net/venturebrothers/god/New%20Volume-241.jpg

― chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, it's not great but it's still pretty entertaining.
i'm watching it right now - it's one big flashback. hrm. still giving it a chance. mostly for hiro.

xpost
a friend of mine is pushing venture bros on me. hm.

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

his name is hiro?

― deep space nine (deep space nine), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

Last name Protagonist.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

i was about to harsh on "heroes," but then i remembered i have watched most every episode of "prison break," which is so extra lame i don't think people regularly admit to watching it.

but i can't just sit there re-watching "the wire" on my on demand now, can i?

― yetimike, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 03:03 (nineteen years ago)

there's always grey's anatomy on DVD you know.

― grady (grady), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

so badly written... "hey are you a mind-reader or something!" [to telepath guy] "you can really soar!" [to guy who can fly] etc etc

― hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

Come on, now! The shot where Hiro fills the truckstop with origami cranes was pretty excellent - you gotta admit that much.

― austin!@$#, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

i refuse to admit that!

― hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

because i didn't see it!

― hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 03:11 (nineteen years ago)

Plus I got a good laugh out of H's goofy-ass inscrutable zen wisdom turning out to be a prediction about baseball scores.

― austin#$@#@!, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 03:13 (nineteen years ago)

I saw it and immediately caught diabetes. (xpost)

― I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 03:13 (nineteen years ago)

i like how the 'bad guy' is actually just a giant insecure nerd

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

Last name Protagonist.

Ah, ou sont les Neige Crashes de yesteryear etc...

― Name Not Found, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

well, a big insecure sociopathic, murdering nerd
xpost, on thinking about it - i just didn't believe he had it in him, but hey, the more unbelievable this show, the better

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

i have read Snow Crash four times :-/

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 03:19 (nineteen years ago)

i like how the 'bad guy' is actually just a giant insecure nerd

And looks like Jason Schwartzman! Actually, JS's cousin was going to my school for a while and looked exactly like Sylar.

― Leon Czolgosz (Leon), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 03:41 (nineteen years ago)

so we've seen shilo already?

― hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 03:46 (nineteen years ago)

MUSIC BY: Wendy Melvoin and Lisa Coleman

Plus bonus points for use of "Avalon"

― Name Not Found, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 05:16 (nineteen years ago)

I take the point about the only women in it being strippers and cheerleaders (but wasn't Buffy also a cheerleader? And didn't everyone love her?) but I still love this show. I suppose I'm prepared to love any show that's not another Law and Order or CSI spinoff, but I just think it's fun and comic book-y and has dippy moments in it. Also is kind of creepy and slightly more gory than I was expecting.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

This is some of the worst shit ever.

― Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

i was flabbergasted thinking that this was a thread about TEENY.

― nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not reading the whole thread in case of ep10 spoilers but Heroes pwns and teeny is wrong.

I wuv Hiro and Ando

― nu_onimo (nu_onimo), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

I like this show, a lot, but your criticisms are valid.

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

fwiw, i never paid Buffy any attention past my obviously closeted freshman year roomate who plastered his wall with pictures of Buffy/SMG and constatly asked me "Isn't she haaaaaawt? Rrrrraaaauueerr, Buffy!"

Katie Holmes circa Dawson's was up on that wall too.

― grady (grady), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

buffy wasn't a cheerleader (well she was in one episode)

― hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

btw I think we've seen the end of the save teh cheerleader save teh world marketing blitz thank god

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'm following this via the wikipedia pages while bored out of my fucking skull @ work. people be writing some in-detail episode guides about shit on there.

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

people be writing some in-detail episode guides about shit on there.

No kidding. The Wikipedia synopsis are often better than the actual shows.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

buffy wasn't a cheerleader (well she was in one episode)

She was in the movie!

― Jesus Dan (dan perry), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

does this show have a hot Indian guy

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

Yes it does!

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

that's true dan, in the show she was more of an ex-cheerleader.

― hank s1ockli (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago)

I finally saw ep10. I liked it! I like "Gabriel"! I love shows with lovable nerdy villains. I mean, is he even a villain? What if he's only killing the ones who are going to die anyway? Does that mean they HAVEN'T actually "save[d] the cheerleader" yet?

And I am officially laying FIVE AMERICAN DOLLAR on DL being dead in ep11 (which sucks because I loved him).

― drunk Friendster massage (nklshs), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

There was a MARATHONG last night! I watched, like, four episodes! It's terrible, but I think I'm sold on Hiro's clueless charm and Ali Larter's gently aging beauty. The Son of Suresh and his gamine gal pal are seriously annoying me, though.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

I thought the last episode was great.

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

yeah we watched two of them on the sci-fi channel last night, it was not as completely bad as suggested at all! hiro + ando are terrific.

― TOM. BOT. (trm), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

See, this is what happens:

- 1st time: GOD the show sucks, but Hiro is pretty great, so I'll stick around
- 2nd time: hey, the politician dude, he's not half-bad, either
- 3rd time: god bless Hiro & Ando
- 4th time: OMG WATCH OUT FOR SCALP BLEEDING

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

DL?

Whuzzat?

― austin swinburn (austin), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

DL = Niki's phase-shifting husband/Micah's phase-shifting dad

― drunk Friendster massage (nklshs), Thursday, 30 November 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Oh oh! We realized last night that Eden (short-haired girl with powers of persuasion) is totally a BENE GESSERIT.

― drunk Friendster massage (nklshs), Thursday, 30 November 2006 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

And also Jesse Custer from Preacher.

― austin!@#$ (austin), Thursday, 30 November 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

And also Tess from Teh 4400 (fanboys: Summer "Serenity" Glau alert!)

http://summer-glau.net/gallery/albums/4400_3x09/4400_3x09_006.jpg

― Name Not Found (rogermexico), Friday, 1 December 2006 05:37 (nineteen years ago)

heroes had its revenge on me, my cable's been out since tuesday. :(

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

You've seen Sylar as non-Chloe technerd on 24..

― Donkey Kong New York (Lee), Saturday, 2 December 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

Dinosaurs! And Perpetua hates it! What's not to love, people?

― Leon Czolgosz (Leon), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 03:40 (nineteen years ago)

haha, i know, dinosaur fightin!! (well, promise of??)

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 04:44 (nineteen years ago)

And Doctor Who! Even if it is the PATHETIC QUITTER Doctor Who, it is still better than nothing.

― Leon Czolgosz (Leon), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 05:02 (nineteen years ago)

what?? like eccleston dr who? was that on 'next week on heroes'? they didn't have that here. or was i not watching closely enough?

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 05:10 (nineteen years ago)

If they have robots fighting dinosaurs then apotheosis is achieved.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 05:10 (nineteen years ago)

like eccleston dr who?

Yup.

― Leon Czolgosz (Leon), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

i love this show. im also a sucker for Friday Night Lights.

― thebingo (thebingo), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

last night's episode was great!

― Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Hiro + dragon = YESSSSSSS
Petrelli + boom = WHOA
Eden + righteous indignation = LOL

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

I got sucked into this one by TIVO. as somebody upthread said ya it's bad and then grows on you. (like mold?) anyway I saw a couple and was hooked. now I watch for scenes with Hiro.

slocki,
"so badly written... "hey are you a mind-reader or something!" [to telepath guy] "you can really soar!" [to guy who can fly] etc etc"

isn't it s'possed to be campy with the puns and stuff?(I really thought it was; but I may be way off course) It's that cartoonish comicbook hero thing that makes it funny.

― Wiggy (wiggy), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

it started off a bit shaky, but i think the last few episodes have been fun.

― M@tt He1ges0n (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

Fucking great episode. Did you guys notice that in Peter Petrelli's future-vision/whatever, he is wearing Sylar's watch?

Characters I hated when the show started: Peter Petrelli, Isaac Mendez, Eden McCain. Characters I am growing to love and find oddly beautiful: Peter Petrelli, Isaac Mendez, Eden McCain (RIP).

OMG I R SUCH FANBOY I KNOW THURR NAMES.

Also wtf with Haitian dude?

― Dragons (per the previous FAQ answer) (nklshs), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 00:47 (nineteen years ago)

So where/when do you guys think Hiro will find his sword?

― Dragons (per the previous FAQ answer) (nklshs), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 00:47 (nineteen years ago)

Is it the SWORD OF DESTINY!!?!?!?!?

(cue "The Final Countdown")

― Dragons (per the previous FAQ answer) (nklshs), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 00:48 (nineteen years ago)

Fucking great episode. Did you guys notice that in Peter Petrelli's future-vision/whatever, he is wearing Sylar's watch?

HOLY SHIT!!!!

― M@tt He1ges0n (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

I think Peter's vision + sickness are because of his proximity to Sylar & his degrading DNA, and also because of that he will now be able to start RETAINING powers. And then in s1 finale there will be a recap of the PP (Peter) / GG (Sylar) showdown, only now with more power!

― Dragons (per the previous FAQ answer) (nklshs), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

MORE POWER ARR ARR ARR.

http://www.abc1tv.co.uk/show/home_improvement/profiles/cms_res/prof_hi_tim.jpg

― Donkey Kong New York (Lee), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

i did not notice the watch!

― Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

More about Psychic Cop and FBI Girlfriend's tete-a-tete (GEDDIT?). SO CUTE.

― Donkey Kong New York (Lee), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

That's not true about the watch. Peter's watch has a metal band and a square face, unlike this:

http://heroeswiki.com/images/e/e7/Sylars_watch_midland.jpg

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

im gonna be SO PISSED if they dont acutally have a scene where hiro fights a t-rex

― max (maxreax), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe he takes a visit to the Natural History museum.

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

I was totally waiting for Parkman to shit his pants straining to hear the haitian.

― thebingo (thebingo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

Who is horn-rimmed-dad's big boss man? My money's on the yet to be revealed Vegas gangster that Nijessiki owed money to, Mr Linderman.

― Blaze the Violet Flame (nu_onimo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

Oh wait, is Ecclescake going to play Linderman?
All desert gambling meccas have a north...

― Blaze the Violet Flame (nu_onimo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

this is awesome! courtesy of oliver wang's blog...pic of cute lil' Hiro as an "asian whiz kid"!!! he's the fella with the backpack on the left:

ihttp://poplicks.com/images/masi-oki-time.jpg

― M@tt He1ges0n (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm bored of this programme now.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

haha "those asian-american whiz kids"

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:41 (nineteen years ago)

There's a graphic novel for each episode on the Heroes site with "hidden surprises" - http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/

I'm not sure I want to dip into such levels of obsession/geekery (or rather, I'm not sure I want Heroes to replace Lost in that category) but I'll probably end up reading them at some point.

― Blaze the Violet Flame (nu_onimo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

Masi Oki looks exactly the same now as he did when he was on that magazine cover.

Oh shit!

He really does have command of space and time.

― austin!@#$ (austin), Friday, 8 December 2006 04:06 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

Heroes sure doesn't get a lotta love in the sandbox. So anyone up for invisible dude vs Bennett?

― jibe (jibe), Monday, 12 February 2007 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Wha bout Psychic Cop versus Darling Nikki!

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Will Psychic Cop be able to read both of Nikki's minds at the same time?

― onimo (nu_onimo), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

& what will Dr. Eccelston do to hurt PP? (OMG - is "Peter Petrelli" supposed to recall PETER PARKER?!?!?)

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

Purple Parasite

― a bulldog fed a cookie shaped like a kitten (austin), Monday, 12 February 2007 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

I hope Mr Ecclestone will hurt PP, I can't stand that fuck. DIE PETER, DIE! FLY TO OUTER SPACE AND EXPLODE ALL YOU WANT, I DONT GIVE A FUCK!

― jibe (jibe), Monday, 12 February 2007 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

I like this show a lot, but the past two episodes have been kind of slow. I'm getting really tired of the Nikki/DL/Micah storyline and how it's taking so many minutes that could be dedicated to Hiro's Quest For The Sword.

― nklshs (nklshs), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

I think I've finally gotten bored enough with Heroes to start ignoring it. Stay tuned here for more thrilling developments.

― a bulldog fed a cookie shaped like a kitten (austin), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

haha "Hope"

I'm looking forward to everybody meeting up at Linderman's place all like "hey didn't I fuck you?/save you from an exploding car?/absorbd your abilities?/ate yr brains?". And then Sylar will molecularly destabilize them all or whatever it is he can do now.

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

Tbh I'm finding this way more interesting than Lost.

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't say more interesting exactly, but maybe more satisfying.

"Stop saying the things I say to you!" - Hiro

I'm liking the Dark Parkman story! That shot where he was laying busted up across the sign with the cruisers pulling up underneath was really gorgeous. I hope he kind of gets PLUNGED into a world of BADGUYNESS (the preview for next week showed him with Radioactive Man!).

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

resposting:

parkman and niki/jessica are my two least-favorite characters but that was kinda fun

I am pretty much sick of claire's storyline now. whoooooooooo cares

I like hiro but he is starting to get on my nerves. JUST GET YOUR POWERS BACK ALREADY KTHX

and WHY NO PETER AND INVISIBLE DUDE??? that was the only thing I was looking forward to!

― Goodtime Slim, Uncle Doobie, and the Great Frisco Freakout (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

I actually find Claire's story more compelling than most of the others. Maybe I'm just the emotional maleable pushover the show's writers are hoping for though.

Two actually kind of heartbreaking things in this episode, both Claire related:

1. the way Nathan and whatever Claire's mom's name is both seemed to secretly deep down want a real reunion, but Nathan can't not be a douche, and wtf with Firemom keeping 75%? I bet she owes money to LINDERMAN.

2. Claire's adoptive mom I think has been memory-wiped one time too many, she has nothing left...she has been so annoying (albeit sometimes hilariously so), but I genuinely found that saddening (maybe more for Claire, who keeps getting pushed further and further into a corner [save the cheerleader Uncle Peter Petrelli!])

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

I HOPE SYLAR EATS DR. FLOPPY HAIR. Though I felt kinda sorry for Suresh that only only one person returned his phone calls. ;_; WHY U BRAEK HAERTS, MUTANTS??

It was nice that Psychic Copy/Madam Mirrors avoided emoness and went for glass-breaking and powers-using hijinks.

I was also put off by lack of Dr. Invisible and Spongetastic Peter Parketrelli, mostly because now physical abuse of PP is justifiable and welcome.

― Donkey Kong New York (Lee), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

they need to get on with it. third week in a row I've fallen asleep halfway through

― akm (akmonday), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

Spongepeter Petrellipants

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

Though I felt kinda sorry for Suresh that only only one person returned his phone calls.

If someone called me with that stupid fake accent I wouldn't return their phonecall either.

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

"hello, this is *giggle* Doctor Mohinder Suresh... I have a *snicker snicker* very important message for Mr. Butz..."

― Goodtime Slim, Uncle Doobie, and the Great Frisco Freakout (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

haha that scene was weird, it was like the writers decided they wanted to remind the audience he had a name other than Floppy Haired Indian Guy

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

One plot hole: Skeezy Showgirl was sitting in the kitchen sobbing, somehow knowing that some (non-staff) person(s) would walk by to hear and be moved by her sob story. HMM, GOOD PLOTTING, GUYS.

― Donkey Kong New York (Lee), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

I caught that too. I think that is the biggest difference for me between LOST/HEROES: something like that would've pissed me off with LOST, with HEROES I'm just like "LOL this makes no sense, now go get that sword dude".

I like Missy Pyle though and find it weird she always plays creepy and/or wrong people.

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

Man Heroes has been so disappointing lately. It feels like they're stalling for time with all those side-stories cause they have no clue how to end the main one. I kinda felt like those last few episodes ( OK, mostly monday's) were like Colin Farrell and Gong Li escapade to Cuba in Miami Vice. Sure, it may look nice and shit, but it completely breaks the momentum of your movie/TV show.
Heroes, please become interesting again ... why not kill PP, that would make me happy,
Love,
Your Friend

― jibe (jibe), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 10:07 (nineteen years ago)

Don't kill Pleasant Plains!

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

OMG B'elanna Torres directed that last episode, Sulu!

― Donkey Kong New York (Lee), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Huh. She also directed one of my fav LOST s2 episodes, surprise.

― nklshs (nklshs), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

Will Psychic Cop be able to read both of Nikki's minds at the same time?

Yes he can! Hurrah!

Massive lolz at Hiro once more. "I come in peace" *Star Trek fingers*, also Hope calling him Sulu, DO YOU SEE?

"Stop saying the things I say to you!" - Hiro

I really liked that Ando's subtitles in that scene were all in quotation marks (not as good as the Gulp though)

Sylar won't kill Mohinder because Mohinder isn't a HERO (or is he?). I really want Mr Muggles to have a HEROpower too.

(we explained away Hope's knowing that Hiro and Ando would pop along to save her as that she has a HEROpower of clairvoyancy. Though perhaps it was just crappy writing)

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 15 February 2007 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

At least on Heroes (unlike Lost), they have planned to resolve things each season, at least somewhat.

― schwantz (schwantz), Thursday, 15 February 2007 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

Massive lolz at Hiro once more. "I come in peace" *Star Trek fingers*, also Hope calling him Sulu, DO YOU SEE?

ONE OF US!! ^_^

― Donkey Kong New York (Lee), Thursday, 15 February 2007 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

haha, last week I didn't even know who George Takei was (though I do know general Star Trek stuff through having some sort of grasp of popular culture, I'm not like The Lex or anything, also I would never be able to have conversations with my husband any of my friends who all appear to be massively geeky)

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 15 February 2007 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

Sylar won't kill Mohinder because Mohinder isn't a HERO (or is he?)

No More Shoes Bennett suggested that annoying floppy haired Indian bloke might be on The List.

― onimo (nu_onimo), Thursday, 15 February 2007 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

I think Mohinder & Sylar are going to hang long enough they can develop a really obvious Magneto/Prof X friendship/respect thing.

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 15 February 2007 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

Then Sylar will take his list and kill him.

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 15 February 2007 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

Hence "(or is he?)" there. But, right now, what reason does Sylar have to kill him? He can lead Sylar right to his victims (or, um, to Mohinder's flat where he helpfully has Sylar's hit list in lovely yellow post-its all over his wall)

xxpost

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 15 February 2007 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

also Hope calling him Sulu, DO YOU SEE?

Actually, I fail to see :(
This series brings out the killer in me and I couldn't agree more with you nklshs about sylar killing mohinder. But don't forget to go after Peter Prickelli afterwards Sylar.

― jibe (jibe), Thursday, 15 February 2007 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

Given Sylar's brane power stealing capabilities he should be able to chop floppy haired Indian bloke's floppy hair off and hoover the list out of his skull.

― onimo (nu_onimo), Thursday, 15 February 2007 23:48 (nineteen years ago)

ha, like it's all in there.

jibe, Sulu is in Star Trek played by George Takei who played Hiro's dad last week. DO YOU NOW SEE?

(OMG, I am EXPLAINING Star Trek references, what is WRONG with me?)

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 15 February 2007 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

Of course it's all in there. Mohindar has phoned everyone on the list.

― onimo (nu_onimo), Thursday, 15 February 2007 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

Even if he hadn't - the location of The List and how to access it would be in there.

― onimo (nu_onimo), Thursday, 15 February 2007 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

Mohinder is totally not giving up his day job to start selling double glazing and conservatories. But, yeah, I guess it'll be in there somewhere.

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 15 February 2007 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

That said, he only steals power, not knowledge.

I wonder what Mohindar's (bah, you've got me remembering his name now!) power, if he has one, is...

― onimo (nu_onimo), Thursday, 15 February 2007 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

The power to make everyone forget his name and/or how to spell it? I bet it is a really fucking lame power, even lamer than whatever Mr Mugglez' power is. Where's Claire's wee bro gone?

I kind of liked Zane's kettle-melting powers.

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Friday, 16 February 2007 00:01 (nineteen years ago)

The "stand back it could be messy" thing that Sylar nicked was bollocks - not even a slight splash.

I'm struggling to think of cool uses for Melty Power apart from impressing stoned mates.

― onimo (nu_onimo), Friday, 16 February 2007 00:04 (nineteen years ago)

(OMG, I am EXPLAINING Star Trek references, what is WRONG with me?)

This is the second time you have explained a Star Trek ref to me. Watch out, you are on a slippery slope!!

― jibe (jibe), Friday, 16 February 2007 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

I've never even seen an episode of Star Trek in my life!

Cool uses for melty power = melting guns and handcuffs and stuff like that (also impressing stoned mates). Actually would the blades Sylar killed him with not have melted on impact with him?

(I've only had like an hour to digest all this stuff, not having been doing things like emailing my pals all afternoon to swap theories)

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Friday, 16 February 2007 00:07 (nineteen years ago)

Oh also, I have a question that has nothing to do with the last ep, but with the one before that. Why is it that even though Sylar gets shot by big man Bennett (he clearly gets one in the chest, hits the fridge) he does not die? Has he eaten the brain on Kevlar man or something?

― jibe (jibe), Friday, 16 February 2007 00:10 (nineteen years ago)

Dos Sylar use blades? I thought he zapped wrong cheerleader's crown off with his index finger.

― onimo (nu_onimo), Friday, 16 February 2007 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

We don't know how many powers Sylar has gained. He came back from being dead remember - getting shot's in the chest's a piece of piss after that.

― onimo (nu_onimo), Friday, 16 February 2007 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

shot's? wtf

― onimo (nu_onimo), Friday, 16 February 2007 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't think he got hit, I thought he ran out of the house.

Oh, I just assumed knives. maybe not.

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Friday, 16 February 2007 00:16 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah he got shot and flew back into the fridge or something, then fell to the floor. Thing is though, the Haitian was there so Sylar shouldn't have been able to use any powers to escape.

― onimo (nu_onimo), Friday, 16 February 2007 00:22 (nineteen years ago)

When exactly did he come back from being dead? I thought he faked becoming really ill .. oh wait actually I remember watching that ep (the one where he escapes from Primatech) completely drunk, not understanding a single thing and thinking he had survived by leeching the cockroach's amazing survival powers. Or something.

I'm pretty sure he was it by the bullet as there is no other reason for him to fall back on the fridge the way he does. Or maybe Bennett yelled "Surprise!" when coming in and that did it.

― jibe (jibe), Friday, 16 February 2007 00:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure he was it by the bullet as there is no other reason for him to fall back on the fridge the way he does. Or maybe Bennett yelled "Surprise!" when coming in and that did it.

xpost

― jibe (jibe), Friday, 16 February 2007 00:22 (nineteen years ago)

Very early in the series, Sylar's been shot already (by Psychic Cop and FBI Girlfriend), and he either played possum or was actually fazed before springing back to life though I would not his sort of life "living"!

(OMG, I am EXPLAINING Star Trek references, what is WRONG with me?)

ailsa, you ought to know that I'm proud of you.

― Donkey Kong New York (Lee), Friday, 16 February 2007 00:54 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, but I think you should know that this is tempered by me being deeply ashamed of myself. I've spent YEARS not watching Star Trek and Star Wars and stuff, and someone it doesn't matter because I know it all anyway :-0

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Friday, 16 February 2007 08:24 (nineteen years ago)

Sooo.... did no one watch the latest?

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

Um this episode was totally DOPE dudes. I love that they are utilizing my three favorite villain archetypes: the shady guy working for some vast conspiracy, the once-nerdy guy who is now power hungry and crazed, the once normal nice guy ("TeddyBear616") whose life was ruined by his "gift".

Semi-hilarious fun fact: State Gaming Commission dude that had the talk with Hiro about partners was played by Bill Fagerbakke, voice of Spongebob Squarepants' best friend Patrick. Yet another thing this show has in common with LOST: Spongebob voice actors showing up for menacing-ish guest spots.

I was wondering how long it would be until Peter realized he had mooched some powers from Sylar. I imagine that's who he got the sonic boom voice from, as well as the telekinesis. I will miss Dr Invisiwho, but I'm glad Peter Petrelli has managed to become an interesting, fun-to-watch character, when, back in the olden days, he seemed so completely awful.

haha xpost

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

Also, you just KNOW that Hiro and Ando are going to have separate adventures that bring them back together just in time for something Really Awesome And Important.

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, how did Peter become so awesome in the space of one episode?! I like crazy Pete.

Sonic boom voice was from Eden, right? which he probably got when he went to see Mohinder early on.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

Oh wait, never mind - she had that voice when she was persuading people, not throwing them back. But it could have been both - that and the telekinesis.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

I think he and Claude have been hanging for weeks now.

Oh man, pissed-off superpower cocktail! Good call.

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

I liked Simone but it's okay with me that she died.

Also how did Glasses Dad know DeVeaux Building?

And did Claude have his tracking dealies ripped out, or were his made by a much more primitive device (all those years ago)? His scar thingies looked WAY grodier than the others.

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

I think Claude got his taken out, they thought he was dead remember?

Yeah I didn't mind Simone dying - death of THE girl is always the best hero motivator, not to mention a potential Peter/Isaac face-off!

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

I thought at first when Bennett gave Isaac the gun that this was the day he gets killed by Sylar (remember when Hiro found the gun?).

But then Peter turned up and I thought, oh noes he's gonna slice Isaac's head open with Sylar's powers! Awesome!

No such luck. :(

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

And did Claude have his tracking dealies ripped out, or were his made by a much more primitive device (all those years ago)? His scar thingies looked WAY grodier than the others.

-- nklshs (nklsh...), February 20th, 2007.

that was my thought, too... but then later in the episode they were talking about how the tracking device was a radioisotope that was in their bloodstreams, which I don't really think you could rip out.

also:

- jesus christ, Sylar! talk about yr impulse control problems! he's just lucky that Mohinder somehow makes even worse decisions than him.
- Peter is a total fucking bad-ass! at first I was worried that his multi-power outburst on the rooftop was a one-time thing that he would struggle to replicate, but apparently not!
- semi-related: I guess this means the haitian doesn't actually have power suppression? either that, or he inexplicably opted to wear thermal goggles rather than oh hmm I dunno TURNING OFF THEIR INVISIBILITY PERHAPS
- interrogation of Bennett = perfect way to reveal some more details and advance the plot. good call, writers.

― Goodtime Slim, Uncle Doobie, and the Great Frisco Freakout (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

wait sorry I meant badass. bad-ass is the adjective form right?

― Goodtime Slim, Uncle Doobie, and the Great Frisco Freakout (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

No one wants to mention how ridiculously over-the-top & awesome the Missy Pyle / guy from Coach gunfight was!

Whose powers has the Haitian futzed with? Psychic Cop & Sylar, right? Anyone else?

Also, hi to WiFi 24 Girl!

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah totally...Ando "then I wouldn't have known what it is to be a hero" BOOOOOM!

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

What was Hiro humming in the beginning of that car scene? If it was A) the theme from Coach or B) the theme from Spongebob Squarepants, then, uh, brilliant!

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Whose powers has the Haitian futzed with? Psychic Cop & Sylar, right? Anyone else?

Confirmed: Eden (I kind of wish she hadn't died so soon). Probably: Ted and Instant Messenger Babe.

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

I was thinking that maybe his power-blocking only works for mental-type powers (when Eden & Haitian confronted Sylar it was Eden that actually subdued him I think), he's only been able to affect powers of persuasion/telepathy etc (he couldn't keep Nathan Petrelli from flying away, for instance).

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

DA DA!

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Did anyone else think Sylar was TURNED ON when Dale was talking about her power? I was surprised she didn't turn around to see him rocking a massive boner.

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

He was gleefully excited in the manner of many a hand-wringing / moustache-stroking supervillain! And I don't want to think about Doctor Doom or the Joker or MONTGOMERY BURNS getting wood! Damn it!

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

LOL yr obv not Waylon Smithers.

Inevitable upcoming Heroes scenes I am totally hyped for:

*Mohinder figuring out who "Zane" really is
*Hiro and Ando reunion
*Peter Petrelli meets Radioactive Ted Sprague

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha excellllent.

I want to find out Mr. "Stop-that-you-no-more-shoes!" Bennett's name.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

OK, one thing: in all the previous premonitions regarding PP blowing up everything, Simone is there - maybe she's not dead?!?! PP possibly uses Sylar TK to staunch the bleeding or something?

ALSO: Sylar has a lot more going on than just the TK (which he stole using his "I know brains" power). Does PP have those other powers as well, or does someone have to whip it out for PP to absorb it?

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

We don't know what else Sylar has besides telekinesis except for Googlebrane. And so far, PP has only used powers that other people have used. He hasn't been remembering a lot lately so maybe he can't absorb any powers unless it's being used.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

I read in the paper this morning that Simone's gonna be in another ep plus the finale.

― Outcast Lemon Mode (sandglocks), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

If Peter saves her life I will bet five American dollars that Isaac gets back on the horse.

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

We don't know what else Sylar has besides telekinesis except for Googlebrane.

I don't remember, but, when Hiro went back to save Charlie*, did Sylar still get her sweet sweet brains, or did she die of that brain thing she had? Also he now has super hearing (also maybe super hip-hop appreciation) and that molecular destabilization thing (but obv Peter does NOT have these powers).**

*haha this actress was on Ugly Betty and her name was Charlie and she was from a small town on that show too, I wonder if it was intentional

**how long until the HEROES ~~TRADING CARD~~ VIDEO GAME?

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

I had the same idea re: Charlie. Sylar didn't kill her, but she still died from an aneurysm.

The Charlie actress was also on House (sick, gets liver transplant from girlfriend she was going to leave).

― scampering alpaca (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Charlie was way adorable.

I might be remembering wrong but I think Sylar still got her - Hiro didn't change anything in her past except make her happy for a little while (aww).

Zach was also in an ep of House.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

Yep Sylar got her - Ando/Hiro's conversation with Isaac in Texas diner, Ando said "You caught him? That's good news - Hiro lost a friend. The Brainman killed her."

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

Hey wait, does Sylar have a tracking radioisotope now, too?

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

DUM DUM DUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

AILSA, did you RECOGNIZE the BUS DRIVER? That is true litmus test for NERD.

And shame on the rest of yall for not mentioning STAN LEE.

― Donkey Kong New York (Lee), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Shit, NO WAI. Heh, I can't believe I didn't even notice him.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Dude's a cameo whore - I ain't gonna encourage that sort of behavior.

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Cameo whoredom is fun to trainspot though!~ You must hate being a nerd!! </hstencil>

Esp. when shot from "ground" level, I ♥ the flying effects on the show! Like the Matrix: Reloaded effects, but without the ridiculous portentousness.

― Donkey Kong New York (Lee), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Cameos are fun to spot when they're subtle, or when the cameo isn't incredibly awkward (like Stephen King's appearances).

― scampering alpaca (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

TV Guide interview with Tim Kling here. Primarily about the 'Claire's Father' reveal, but includes other insights into the show.

Greg Beeman's blog is also a good read.

― Chris Hill (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, I am so not the cameo whore spotter. Who is bus driver guy? Probably someone from Star Trek since I keep being explained refs to ST.

Finally Peter becomes a good character. Whiny Peter is dead, long live angry Peter! I am however pretty sad that we probably won't see invisible dude anymore, he was definitely one of the most enjoyable heroes if not the most.

Also, I couldn't help but think that the Others are Heroes (which was a theory I had a long time back) thanks to that one Nathan Petrelli sentence.

― jibe (jibe), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

I am however pretty sad that we probably won't see invisible dude anymore, he was definitely one of the most enjoyable heroes if not the most.

Invisible dude has a HISTORY of disappearing from shows, so I was not surprised.

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 00:15 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, the Christopher Eccleston groupies on twop have made me cranky towards the dude.

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 00:17 (nineteen years ago)

But, as a non cameo whore spotter, I didn't expect that and it saddens me. What good is it for him to disappear from shows? Is he such an insufferable asshole that the writers write him off?

― jibe (jibe), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

Erm, I saw Stan Lee's name in the opening credits and knew his name if not what he looked like, and figured he was the really hammy bus driver from his hamminess and general non-actor-ness. So, bit nerdy for knowing his name, I guess.

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 22 February 2007 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

But then Peter turned up and I thought, oh noes he's gonna slice Isaac's head open with Sylar's powers! Awesome!

Haha me too.

My wife was ultra psychic and said "that was my best spanner" just before Dale said "that was my best wrench"!

Charlie was way adorable.

New names please! I am getting L O S T crossover!

Why didn't PP used Hiro powa to save Simone?

Anyway, great episode.

― Captain Purple Items (nu_onimo), Thursday, 22 February 2007 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

Why didn't PP used Hiro powa to save Simone?

He'll pass on ClairePower by the power of LOVE, obviously.

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 22 February 2007 00:46 (nineteen years ago)

This episode was obviously so great because there was no Niki/D.L./Mikah boring nonsense to drag the pacing to a halt.

Inevitable upcoming Heroes scenes I am totally hyped for:

Also,
Peter running into Niki/Jessica and absorbing SPLIT PERSONALITY EVIL PETER.

More echoplex psychic cop / Peter headaches.

― clay (cws), Thursday, 22 February 2007 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

Oh and did anyone else notice the L O S T shoutout when Nathan suggested to Simone that if the public knew of their powers they'd drop all the heroes off "on an island to conduct scientific experiments" thing? I lolled.

― clay (cws), Thursday, 22 February 2007 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, I said that to Neil. Actually what I said was "yeah, with BENRY GALE" and he looked at me like I was a bit simple, so I just let it go again really quickly.

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 22 February 2007 01:34 (nineteen years ago)

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