Matty Taylor for England & GOAL of the season

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Matty Taylor scored a 40 yards volleyed left-footed screamer against Everton dipped over Tim Howard whilst he was standing like a yank dummy on the 6 yard line. Goal of the season according to Sam Matterface on the quay 107.4

just in.. already on youtube [poor quality images]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNaVLdg81LE

i can't resist:

10 Reasons why Mat Taylor should be in England squad

1. ex England U21 with International experience

2. Can play Left Back, Left Wing Back, Left Midfield

3. Gives a 100 % and is a winner

4. Even McClaren has noticed him: re Last Sunday on Sky

5. scores penaltys under pressure - something that few England players can do

6. can score goals from distance

7. ashley cole is suspended for england

8. it's about time that a Pompey player represented England - the last time a current pompey player represented England was Mark Hateley just before his 1 Million tranfer to AC Milan

9. South Coast bragging rights - to annoy the scummers [southampton] that Pompey have a player in the England squad

10. and finally.. just to annoy the anti-pompey faction on ile

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

also Livetable:

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/tables/premiership.html

Pompey third in the premiership - are you watching....are you watching ... Steve McClaren

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm just waiting for Matt DC to DCend and reduce me to further DCpair with a DCultory account of Spurs' DCimation and DCtruction of my poor, hapless Addicks, to the DCpicable tune of 5-1.

DCgraceful. :-(

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

sky match ratings

Mat Taylor = 9 rating
http://home.skysports.com/matchratings.aspx?fxid=298547

9 = Excellent - Top-class display, probably the matchwinner.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

WEL DUN MAT TAILER HAV A COKIE

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Sky Match report

http://home.skysports.com/matchreport.aspx?fxid=298547&cpid=8

However, just 12 minutes earlier Taylor had thumped home an outlandish 45 yard volley that will live long in the memory and surely claim the goal of the season award.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Paul Merson reckons Goal of the Season

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

We've not had half the season yet!

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Louis it's called a Benchmark - setting the standard

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

lol it's a miracle Taylor can play at all with Martian so far up him.

sede vacante (blueski), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, maybe. I've been wracking my brains trying to think of a better one and tbh I can't.

NO WAIT, what about Van Persie against, erm *gulps* Charlton?

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

last season:

Taylor vs Sunderland 40 Yarder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlvXm_PxssI

today's goal was further from the goal

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Dear DJ Martian:

Matty Taylor is a good player, but you suck for the "yank dummy" line. From now on, consider us ENEMIES.

Sincerely,

Me.

Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Matt Cibula try "Yank Plank Dummy" instead and keep that retro trad band "The Hold Steady" on your side of the Atlantic.

Thanks

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

OH IT'S ON NOW

http://www.thatsweird.net/Pictures/prince_charles.jpg

Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

who are those American AOR tossers?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

cbilula, you didn't change your login name, then! :P

brad friedel, the other yank dummy, last seen in the newcastle penalty area as martins scored the Toon's third

brian mcbride goalless as his team lose 4-0 at anfield

marcus hahnemann the only non-dummy yank by the looks of things

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.newint.org/issue309/Images/talvin.JPG

SAFEHANDS SINGH WHEN YOU'RE WINNING

sede vacante (blueski), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

tim howard - i am a goalkeeper dummy to the tune of kraftwerk showroom dummies

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

oh good one you almost got me there
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/gallery/2004/03/10/fitmithund.jpg

Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

stan collymore is a dogger and English - i'm neither

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.rykodisc.com/rykointernal/databasesupport/album_covers_full/708.gif

john & yoko's tribute album to jagger and martian

hb262 (hb262), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

american aor tossers = STATUS QUO, FULE!!!

CarsmileSteve (Carsmile Steve), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I hate Oasis and Beatles had split before i was born

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

its not a beatles album. its called two virgins

jason deming (hb262), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i know CarsmileSteve - they look like a mid 70s dodgy AOR/classic American rock band

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Real answer: Tim Howard has been a very good goalkeeper in the past, and pretty good this year; if he was really bad and was standing there like a dummy, then your boy's goal isn't such a great accomplishment after all. Also, if Howard and Friedel are so bad, then how come they haven't been replaced by Britishers who are better? BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY PERHAPS. Or is it a Brit conspiracy against your own people horrors.

Also nice easy target Louis but I don't see any UK people in any of our leagues.

I love you guys but seriously is this how you think of American footballers? Hahaha that is hilarious.

Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Although I admit UK football is better than US soccer blah blah blah etc.

Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

DJ Martian you're not English?

sede vacante (blueski), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

by the way Alan Knight goalkeeper coached FC Dallas last season

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Poor Emre's terrific match-winning goal in midweek will be forgotten a bit more now.

sede vacante (blueski), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

claudio reyna doesn't even make 45 minutes as city crash in local derby

damarcus beasley utterly ineffectual in same game

matt, i'm only winding you up! howard has been goalkeeper of the season so far...

although there are lots of English women footballers on your leagues!

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah and by the way we tied world champion italy this summer

Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

*in your leagues

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

and obv they'll have beckham at softdrink fc by next season...

CarsmileSteve (Carsmile Steve), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

correct: NOT English - I'm British

born and grew up in

"Little England beyond Wales"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_England_beyond_Wales

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

LJ: that's true! Those two out of "Bend It Like Beckham" did really well for University of Whatever too!

Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, you got a draw with Italy, in one of the most violent, farcical international matches I've ever seen. If there wasn't mafia involvement in that one I'd be amazed... ;-)

Bend It Like Beckham, what a brilliant documentary that was...

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

oh and your match against Portugal was a high-water mark in international football, okay junior

(no hate for Britishers or for any of you, just separate your issues dammit; I admire the films of Powell/Pressburger, I totally rock out to Super Furry Animals, and I am on record as preferring Rachel Weisz to US pizza)

Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

...meanwhile, Jonathan Spector's West Ham go into half-time trailing 1-0 to Bolton Wanderers. Will the Yank dummy shame ever end?

A Matter Of Life And Death/Stairway To Heaven (as you guys call it) was actually commissioned by the respective governments to promote goodwill between the US and Great Britain, so there!

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

i'd also appreciate it if you wouldn't ever refer to that portugal match EVER AGAIN. :-D

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost WELL IT IS A GOOD THING I ADMIRE THEIR FILMS THEN LOUIS, DO THEY NOT HAVE READING COMPREHENSION ACROSS THE POND

and yes, our national team has a lot of problems, we aren't all that good, i have never said otherwise. we have very good players though. we need a) a coach and b) a winning tradition to build on and c) to learn how to dive like European players

Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

and you know what it'd be GREAT if matty taylor was in the England squad, I'm all for guys named Matty!

Matty Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost: nono, I was simply emphasising your point! My thrust was simply that you liked their films at least partially because their films were so pro-friendship between the two nations! The 'so there' was a slightly more emphatic exclamation mark, it wasn't a yelp of contention.

Bruce Arena is hilarious. After you beat portugal 3-1, he came up with the gem "And that's why we're the greatest country in the world!"

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

we have very good players though. we need a) a coach and b) a winning tradition to build on and c) to learn how to dive like European players

exactly like England, except 'we' have already made great strides in (c)

sede vacante (blueski), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

http://base58.com/ilx/campbruce.jpg

"hiiiiiii!"

sede vacante (blueski), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

spector's yank dumminess has now been recognised and he has been dismally substituted

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

hey bruce arena might not have been a great coach but he kept his job for a really long time, isn't that the #1 measurement of success? ugh, WHY YOU SPURN US KLINSY

Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

in all fairness, watford defender Jay DeMerit kept a clean sheet today, although, by all accounts, the match he played in was the 'most boring the Premiership has ever seen'. which makes both he and hahnemann dummies for NOT ENTERTAINING US. thus every yank in the Premiership is a dummy. officially.

did klinsmann quit? uh? who's in charge now?

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

we never had him, he spurned us. now we have to make do with some american idiot.

Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

alas! anyway, back to my point. rachel smith, one of the best players in the world, she spent most of her career in america, didn't she?

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

aha, Bob Bradley. never heard of him. he sounds quite canny, though: http://www.ussoccer.com/articles/viewArticle.jsp_281547.html

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, that's what they said about bruce arena, except we don't say canny.

Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Saturday, 9 December 2006 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Great goal, shit result, shit thread.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 9 December 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Martian, the first seven of your points also apply to GARETH BARRY, and the latter ones are unlikely to sway Mclaren.

SOMETHING ABOUT HOW GOOD RANDY LERNER IS THAT I CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO THINK OVER

Matty Taylor is a collossus and gives entertainingly sullen post-match interview, obv.

Michael Annoyman (Michael Annoyman), Sunday, 10 December 2006 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Martian has been pimping the cause of Gareth Barry for the past four years, keep up!

I like Matty Taylor, he is a good player. I'll like him even more when he doesn't play for Portsmouth. He is not as good as Wayne Bridge though.

PS - that goal was jammy as fuck. He didn't mean it.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 10 December 2006 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Incidentally, this thread has not lived up to the tingle of anticipation I experienced when I saw 'Matty Taylor for England & GOAL of the season' on the New Answers page.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 10 December 2006 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, "Matt Cibula try "Yank Plank Dummy" instead and keep that retro trad band "The Hold Steady" on your side of the Atlantic" is good but its kind of Martian on autopilot. Must try harder.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 10 December 2006 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

The Kooks 'Inside In/Inside Out' is album of the year according to Sam Matterface on the quay 107.4.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 10 December 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Nuns On The Run is best film ever according to Sam Matterface on the quay 107.4.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 10 December 2006 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

you haven't mentioned charlton yet. a reprieve?

Louis Jagger (Scourage), Sunday, 10 December 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

PS - that goal was jammy as fuck. He didn't mean it.

i think he did mean it. he is blasting the ball forward towards goal too hard and fast for Kanu or whoever to have been able to get onto it. the keeper wasn't that far off his line tho. i guess it was just one of those "you won't expect THIS" moments.

sede vacante (blueski), Sunday, 10 December 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

i think matt was joking

I am the best lyrocost since Dylan (Scourage), Sunday, 10 December 2006 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

DC why you sell me out like that, dont you know MATT MUST NEVER FIGHT MATT

Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Sunday, 10 December 2006 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Perhaps the closer Portsmuf come to being in Europe and the closer Matt Taylor comes to having a genuine shout at an England place, the less entertaining the unhinged Martian invective becomes, because it makes that little bit more sense.

Soon Newcastle will win a trophy, and Robbie Williams will Break America, and the world will be entirely grey and devoid of things to laugh at.

Michael Annoyman (Michael Annoyman), Sunday, 10 December 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually I've just watched proper footage of the goal and its up there with some of those 'Lob David Seaman' classics.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 10 December 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I think that goal was total jam, and I don't know what the fuss is about.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 10 December 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

It is up there with me scoring from the halfway line in basketball without even touching the rim. (Reaction = feigned nonchalence.)

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 10 December 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

better quality images:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjFGdRRlt90

3 elements

power: immense power when the ball was volleyed
pace: the speed at it which it turned and twisted in the air
accuracy: bang in the net

forget: bend it like beckham, turn it like taylor

DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 10 December 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

power AND pace?

power and the fact he caught it sweetly enough to get the requisite dip, more like.

i do agree that it gets better every time I watch it. much better than the sunderland one, because it was hit instinctively on the full volley, and tied with van persie for GOTS so far.

I am the best lyrocost since Dylan (Scourage), Sunday, 10 December 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

q: have Sky measured the time the ball left his foot to hit the back of the net? and also the speed the ball travelled?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 10 December 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, add at a fourth element: timing, power, pace and accuracy

timing: the coordination of striking the ball at the right time

DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 10 December 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Thank you for explaining the concept of timing for us all.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 10 December 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

writing: the use of a pen or keyboard to type words

Lou Calvert (hb262), Sunday, 10 December 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Vagina: That thing Martian has to pay to touch

Unnecessary (hb262), Sunday, 10 December 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Great goal, but not as good as the goal Berwick's Gary Wood scored against Arbroath yesterday in the 88th Minute. Back to goal, shakes off defender, turns and lobs the keeper from the half way line. Sadly not coming to YouTube anytime soon.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 10 December 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

From Football365:


As a Portsmouth fan, I'd like to say two words: Matt Taylor.

Before any other Pompey fans start a Taylor for England campaign, though, we should just recognise that the national team's really well-served on the left at the moment (Kieran Richardson of Manchester United fame can't even get a start!), so let's not get carried away.

It's so nice not to be complete crap this season.
David Lloyd

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Monday, 11 December 2006 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

10 draws for Villa. I hope they draw every single remaining match this season.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 08:26 (seventeen years ago) link

PART 2: Matty Taylor for England & another left foot volleyed GOAL

Arsenal 0 Portsmouth 2 [Pamarot 45 [end of first half], Taylor - start of second half]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 16 December 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Pamarot ex Spurs and Matty Taylor supported Spurs as a Kid

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 16 December 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

booooooooooooooo adebayor

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 16 December 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

booooooooooooooooo gilberto

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 16 December 2006 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Emirates Stadium - have never seen a match like this

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 16 December 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

You'll lose this now.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 16 December 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm starting to lol my own team now, incidentally.

LOL@CHARLTON THEY R SO AWFUL etc.

kudos to Taylor

I am the best lyrocost since Dylan (Scourage), Saturday, 16 December 2006 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

DJ Martian, are you posting from the match?

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Saturday, 16 December 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

no listening to live commo on quay 107.4 via winamp

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 16 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

The Quay 107.4
http://www.quayradio.com/

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 16 December 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Pompey out singing Arsenal fans - can hear the chimes ringing out

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 16 December 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Full Time: Arsenal 2 Portsmouth 2

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/tables/premiership.html

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 16 December 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

pompey have already played all 4 of [last season's] best teams away [Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool] - and the half way point of the season is after the next match

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 16 December 2006 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I watched Arse v Pompey via the magic of dodgy foreign satellites this afternoon. Sadly, when I saw Matthew Taylor's goal the first thing I thought of was what DJ Martianbot's reaction would be. I hate teh internets.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Saturday, 16 December 2006 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

dodgy foreign satellites:

a: norwegian
b: arabic
c: china
d: a.n.other

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 16 December 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

b.

We also occasionally get Polish and Japanese ones for Celtic games, which I shall be relying on come December 30th.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Saturday, 16 December 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

ailsa, have you ever seen: the clan pompey

http://members.lycos.co.uk/clanpompey/
The Bon Accord in Glasgow - is this a celtic or rangers drinking hole?

ihttp://members.lycos.co.uk/clanpompey/Images/Home/portsmouth4.jpg

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 16 December 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, patronising bastards: "We ...do our best to accommodate wives, girlfriends...", i.e. women don't be liking football, but might want to be nice to their partners.

Contrary to popular belief, not all pubs in Glasgow align themselves to either side of the Old Firm.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Saturday, 16 December 2006 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

yes and don't forget the JAGS partick thistle

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 16 December 2006 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't forget the magnificent giant-killing Bully Wee. (posted under duress, coerced by their only supporter)

Are you related to Tuomasbot?

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Saturday, 16 December 2006 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Pompey out singing Arsenal fans - can hear the chimes ringing out

Out-singing Arsenal fans does not equal being a cunt with a fucking bell. Congratulations to Matt Taylor and all the people who have him in their fantasy league team, where he is still classed as a defender.

Jussi Jaaskelainen's quarter-of-a-fingertip save from Gary Cahill's 35 yard drive is literally the greatest thing I have ever seen. Cahill himself remains Pele accidentally reborn into the body of a sullen brummie dude with the face of Steven Gerrard if he was moderately attractive.

Sam Allardyce remains a cheating wide-faced cunt.

Michael Annoyman (Michael Annoyman), Saturday, 16 December 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Can we turn this into the all-purpose sandbox Premiership thread? Because GO ALAN CURBISHLEY!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 17 December 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Are there many better ways to make a managerial debut than beating Man Utd (who punted you in your last game in charge of your old club), with the goal scored by your much-criticised captain, while moving you equal on points with Middlesbrough* and almost out of the relegation zone?

*Who are going down. I said so in July, I will be proved right. Just like with Andrei Shevchenko.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 17 December 2006 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

the west ham result has put the icing on a miserable weekend at both ends of the table for a manchester united-sympathetic charlton fan who can't abide to see chelsea win it AGAIN.

perhaps the championship will be a bresh of freath air after all this Premiership bullshit...

I am the best lyrocost since Dylan (Scourage), Sunday, 17 December 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Tim Howard can't cope with high-velocity hoofs at just above head-height, can he? No reaction to the Taylor volley last week and Drogba's shot today seemed to completely catch him unawares. Neither were more than a couple of feet away as they passed him. He's been great this season but this seems to be a weakness.

Of course, 2-3 after leading 2-1 with 9min left is far worse than the routine 0-2 I predicted when turning on the radio at 2pm.

To some Toffees, the title race boils down to: pleasure in Rooney not winning anything more significant in his whole ManYoo career than the Carling Cup vs a further slice of that transfer cash for EFC if MUFC do win something major with the Croxteth Cro-Magnon* in their ranks. It's a tough one. But I hate Chelsea more than I hate Man Utd.

(* - this doesn't really work. The Gillmoss Godzuki? It would be easier if he came from Netherton).

Spurs only 3pts behind Liverpool! Important, that.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 17 December 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Very important. It's tight like a tiger this year. I almost feel like almost everyone in the top ten could potentially nab fourth spot (okay, maybe not Reading or Everton). It's unusual to have two out of the Big Four misfiring so often.

I thought that Villa could maybe do it but confidence in that has ebbed away over the past few weeks. I fully expect Bolton to cock it up at some point and I would've put Pompey in that bracket as well but now I'm not so sure. I'd like to think that a first away win for Spurs could be the springboard to the sort of consistency we've been looking for, but I'm used to being disappointed in these matters.

Obviously it'll almost certainly be Manyoo/Chelsea/Arse/Pool again, but a man can dream, can't he?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 17 December 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

first time this season the top 4 has featured the 4 teams you'd expect? shame really that with the points gap so close between 3rd and 10th it's still Liv and Ars up there and looking set to stay there.

sede vacante (blueski), Sunday, 17 December 2006 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

As I said weeks ago, Liverpool's "crisis" wasn't really any such thing - they lost away vs the other CL contenders last season too, it's just that they had those fixtures inside the first dozen weeks this season. Add a derby defeat and they're suddenly mid-table. But the run of matches up to Xmas all looked winnable, and winning them they are.

Arsenal are more interesting as their inconsistency is hanging around. More likely than Liverpool to finish outside the top four, I think (but still not that likely).

And that's how tedious the Premiership is; qualifying for the CL means you're more likely to...qualify for the CL again. And on and on it goes. That bizzaro Dudek double-save from Shevchenko in Instanbul preserved Liverpool's membership of that club, though I don't suppose they'd have faded like a Leeds or a Newcastle in subsequent seasons.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 17 December 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

interesting what was said by Charlton chairman re Dowie's 'gross misconduct' over the weekend.

also curious as to why Gerrard has 'no respect' for Les Reed (this from his book).

sede vacante (blueski), Sunday, 17 December 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Reed was an England coach and apparently treated Gerrard badly during the Euro 2000 finals.

Fat Lady Wrestler (Modal Fugue), Sunday, 17 December 2006 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

nobody likes us any more, we've been fucked and dumped, everyone wants reading or wigan or sheffield united as their 'darling' club, we're old news, and no longer welcome in the premiership. perhaps a change of scene will find us in more welcoming surrounds...

I am the best lyrocost since Dylan (Scourage), Monday, 18 December 2006 04:56 (seventeen years ago) link

apparently treated Gerrard badly during the Euro 2000 finals

Told him he was a grown man and not far from home so there was no need to be 'homesick', was what I read (on the BBC, I think).

much_aldo_about_nothing (much_aldo_about_nothing), Monday, 18 December 2006 07:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I wonder how the publsihers get footballers to dig up and dust off these ancient grudges. Do the ghostwriters have to come up with it?

Meanwhile, I quite enjoyed COLCHESTER on the television.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 18 December 2006 08:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Found it.

"They didn't seem to understand that not everyone can board a plane, settle in a strange hotel far from the family they love and find it easy.

"My homesickness worsened whenever I was forced to be in their company."

much_aldo_about_nothing (much_aldo_about_nothing), Monday, 18 December 2006 09:15 (seventeen years ago) link

huddlestone scored the goal of the season so far i think.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 18 December 2006 09:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, he's just a Wolves reject.

Fat Lady Wrestler (Modal Fugue), Monday, 18 December 2006 10:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Huddlestone's goal was a belter and he will become one of the best midfielders in the country but that goal had nothing on Lampard's or Drogba's which were both just astonishing.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Can't recall quite how far out Kanu was for Pompey's second last week (and I'm not about to go YouTubing for it) but I suspect the last six goals Everton have conceded have all been spectacular strikes from outside the box. I can't wait for Goal of the Month.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:42 (seventeen years ago) link

nobody likes us any more, we've been fucked and dumped, everyone wants reading or wigan or sheffield united as their 'darling' club, we're old news, and no longer welcome in the premiership. perhaps a change of scene will find us in more welcoming surrounds...

That's just pathetic.

Maaarghk C (Maaarghk C), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:48 (seventeen years ago) link

best goal of the month contest ever coming up

poor Emre will be lucky to make the top ten at this rate

sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not a big fan of 40 yard screamers, I'd rather see a 15 pass build-up or a mazy run followed by nutmegging the keeper and a tap-in.

Fat Lady Wrestler (Modal Fugue), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Lampard's goal was insane, though a mile offside during the build-up.

Also was it me or Bellamy's goal against Charlton also ridiculously off, even though no defenders claimed it and no commentators mentioned it?

Michael Annoyman (Michael Annoyman), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Bellamy looked just about level as the ball was played - close anyway.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 11:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi Dere. I managed to blag myself a ticket for the United end yesterday ('blag' as in 'beg on a forum for a month and get lucky 24 hours before the match'). At about 3.15 I finally had the ticket in my pocket, Everton were 2-1 up against Chelsea, the pub full of West Ham fans were singing 'stick your blue flag up your arse' and all was right with the world. Then everything unravelled. I've got to say that was a great comeback by Chelsea with two excellent goals.

United were poor and didn't deserve more than a point yesterday (not that they got one). The atmosphere was a bit wank as well - probably not the best fifty quid I've spent. Far too much negativity: loud-mouthed cockneys constantly slagging off the team, silent zombies who never made a noise all match, Mancs spending more time shouting at the zombies or singing anti-Liverpool & anti-England songs than cheering on the team. I was at FC United the weekend before for the big FA Vase match against the improbably-named Quorn (another defeat - I'm on a bit of a roll) and that was about a million times better.

Teh HoBBx (HoBB), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Quorn have really lacked iron in their recent performances.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

They need a bit more beef in midfield.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't wait for their derby against Soy Wanderers...in the "Taste The Difference Shield"

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

they're hunting around for form.

they need a fox in the box

CarsmileSteve (Carsmile Steve), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.quornhunt.co.uk/ innit.

CarsmileSteve (Carsmile Steve), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

That's just pathetic.

Oh c'mon, all we Charlton fans have left is melodrama...

I am the best lyrocost since Dylan (Scourage), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

And Darren Bent, you've got Darren Bent. Until he signs for West Ham in the transfer window at any rate.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought it was Aston Villa.

I am the best lyrocost since Dylan (Scourage), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

are Quorn also on a bit of a roll? (or was it with rice?)

ken c (ken c), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

"loud-mouthed cockneys constantly slagging off the team"

Ha ha.

Man Utd fans: "Rio, Rio"
West Ham fans: "Anton, Anton"
Guy next to me: "Franz, Franz"

The gamne was a triumph of effort over technique.

The G (The G), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 11:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Like all the other Ferdinands, all three are forever in Sir Les's shadow.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 11:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Hello everybody,

I've been spending far too much time on the Guardian website when I should have been on ILX2 being annoying about Chelsea.

Jamie - that was a great couple of hours to be a Chelsea fan on Sunday. Thought United were pretty poor to be honest; they've won a lot of games on fear and reputation already this season and West Ham called their bluff.

I really like the look of Huddlestone. Much more than Lennon and Dawson, who I'm not sure would cut it at a much higher level.

Drogba's goal on Sunday was great, but I think the one against Liverpool was better, tighter space to turn, more powerful shot.

The Ferdinands are the Allens of the 21st century.

Peter Watts (petew), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Some nice goals this weekend; Drogba, Lampard and Taylor etc. Without the net to stop it, Huddlestone's shot would have left Manchester.

What is this site? Is the other one finished? Holed like like Saint Sebastian by too many DJ Martian lyrical arrows?

The G (The G), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 12:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't know how Mourinho has the gall to accuse other teams players of diving and being untrustworthy when Drogba is surely one of the worst (but doesn't need to be considering his goal rate anyway). will be interesting to see where it goes tho.

sede vacante (blueski), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

THE FINAL HUMILIATION

beyond ;_;

now onto :-O

Harold Bishop (sorry, Les Reed) must die

I am the best lyrocost since Dylan (Scourage), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Les Reed is about to become the shortest-serving manager in
Premiership history.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

He does look like Harold Bishop, though! Somebody at least agree with me on that one!

I'm sure there have been shorter-serving full-time managers in the Premiership, surely?

And can we please now grab a proper manager (hint: PARDEW)?

I am the best lyrocost since Dylan (Scourage), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't remember the last time drogba got a penalty

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

This means more to me than the three points would've done.

Nah, not really.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still kind of in awe of the thread title's capitalising of GOAL, and nothing else.

Michael Annoyman (Michael Annoyman), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Bung inquiry recommends bung inquiry: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6192665.stm

Someone's making a living off the people making a living.

Onimo has his finger in the stink (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Matt Taylor wasn't the first, anyway. I remember this one from way back when (and have now found it on youtube!), and the similarities are uncanny; a swerving, unstoppable first-time running shot from a promising young left-back (as Harley was at the time) over the goalkeeper from about 45 yards. Except this one's been caught even sweeter, and has an even lower trajectory. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70SHYg6_6dI

Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Saturday, 23 December 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

in no relation to anything discussed above really, but funny!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of77aw-rgK8&NR

ken c (ken c), Sunday, 24 December 2006 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Jamie - that was a great couple of hours to be a Chelsea fan on Sunday

...and Boxing Day was pretty damn fine for me. For the first time I actually feel United are slight favourites for the league now. I've only just started to appreciate that Chelsea have sold loads of players and their squad isn't quite able to cope with the current mini-crisis.

Which (former) pariah for player of the season: Ronaldo or Drogba?

Teh HoBBx (HoBB), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Right now? Ronaldo. He's scarily good at the moment.

Amazing how fragile and unbalanced Chelsea suddenly look, isn't it? They miss Terry badly, especially as having spunked £7m on Boulharouz in the summer they're now opting for Paulo Ferreira at centreback instead of him. If Drogba gets injured now they're fucked. Also where was Makelele against Reading?

Still, I fully expect Chelsea to spend like madmen in the transfer window and just throw a huge amount of money around, so who knows?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

JM should have pulled Drogba for SWP instead of Shevchenko.

Michael White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going tonight, either to see our relegation confirmed or our hope (faintly) renewed. Come on the Addicks!

Just tell yourselves that Fulham really aren't very good. They're not.

Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I felt sorry for Pardew. I thought he was sacked prematurely and I'm glad to see he's got another job so quickly, but I don't fancy his chances. Charlton have been looking *really* shit. I had been hoping Charlton went down to teach them a lesson for sacking Dowie prematurely (who I also feel sorry for), now I'm not sure.

Teh HoBBx (HoBB), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

...and Boxing Day was pretty damn fine for me.

me too, but that's because i got to see liverpool v. rovers at ewood down in the visitor's section. liverpool lost, but the game was nice (first match i've been to) and the atmosphere was good.

pissed (off) scousers are hilarious.

baby wizard sex (gbx), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

The whole situation at Charlton shows the board clearly didn't have a clue what to do once Curbishley left, like they'd almost been banking on him continuing to add stability year on year. Since he left its been panic all the way.

I reckon Pardew has got it okay at Charlton right now - he won't be blamed if they go down (which they will), especially as the board has been upfront about there being no money for new players. The real pressure will be on him to take them swiftly back up (which he could well do).

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

poor charlton

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

FUCKING COMEDY MIDGET LINO, that was the worst decision, like, ever

if we'd played like that all season we wouldn't be in this mess. JAMMY FULHAM JIZZBALLERS

Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Thursday, 28 December 2006 00:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Uh, you have played like that all season and are now in a position where you can seemingly do little but scream at the sky for not being able to face teams as bumbling and inept as Fulham each week. That second half was some of the most wretched football I can remember watching and I think I actually banged my head on the pub table at one point during it

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 28 December 2006 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Speak for your own team...and the fact that you barely had the ball in our half during the second period (until the last ten minutes, where the pressure was soaked up without a problem until the visually-impaired leprechaun decided to intervene).

Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Thursday, 28 December 2006 01:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't support Fulham! It was just a completely rotten game of football

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 28 December 2006 11:04 (seventeen years ago) link

both teams were shit, hence the draw.

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 December 2006 11:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, is it Kick Charlton day, or is this an ILE meme in the making?

I thought it was quite exciting, myself. Both teams were eager to score, both put players forward, and you got four goals, controversy, and an exquisite drag-back from El-Karkouri for your money's worth. What's not to love?

Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Thursday, 28 December 2006 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

goals only amount to a small fraction of the 90 minutes of a football match - in between, it's nice to see play that flows - neat passing moves, and people taking the ball comfortably and fluidly into their stride. Last night, i saw very little of this. It was sloppy, frustrating football - the performance of rommedahl summed this up, i thought; he is one of the most infuriating players in the prem, imo.

weasel diesel (kilian), Thursday, 28 December 2006 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

i think it was more the case that last night both teams were eager to let the other team score.

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 28 December 2006 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Charlton and Fulham not exactly disgracing themselves today, however! Apparently, not only were we well worth the win (over an admittedly desperate Villa), but Fulham have arguably dominated their Stamford Bridge derby. Manchester United are six points clear, Phil Neville's scored a blinder, and all's well in the world!

(I accept that the weather, and the pitch may have played a part in the Chelsea match.)

Oh look, Reading have scored. And now they have a corner. I wonder what happens? Oh, it's cleared. Sorry, panic over.

Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Saturday, 30 December 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

p.s. KUDOS to Sam Sodje for the greatest substitute appearance of all-time...

Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Saturday, 30 December 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

WAAAHAAAAAAAARRGGH!!!!!

Teh HoBBx (HoBB), Saturday, 30 December 2006 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Mourinho sounded pissed in the post-match interview. As in drunk. On and on he morosely rambled. It sounded like Chelsea should have had a penalty at some point near the end, which he made no effort to mention, which probably tells you something

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 30 December 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

mourinho picks and chooses whom to be graceful towards. i have noticed in the past that he likes chris coleman, so his lack of vitriol today doesn't surprise me in the slightest. last week after the reading draw he was similarly graceful. other times he can be an unreasonable bastard. there is also a possibility that his pr men have told him to try and make himself seem more sympathetic, as the media appear to be cottoning onto his deliberate acts of provocation.

Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Saturday, 30 December 2006 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I think he is a Dada performance artist.

Matt Cibula (Formerly, the Haikunym), Saturday, 30 December 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

also, witness the power of KARMA:

1) Chelsea score two last-10-minute winners in as many games
2) Chelsea concede two last-ten-minute equalisers in as many games

1) Charlton concede a heartbreaking last-minute equaliser, robbing them of two points
2) Charlton score an uplifting last-minute winner, gaining back those two lost points

Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Saturday, 30 December 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Mourinho wrote out a list of managers he liked and managers he didn't when he came to the Premiership and he's pretty much stuck to it. Both Coleman and Ferguson are firmly in his Friends List, but watch him lay into Wenger if there's a cock-up involving Arsenal.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 30 December 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

...speaking of which, Arsenal have just struck a death-blow to Charlton's survival hopes. Watch as they compound this by beating us on Tuesday. :-(

Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Saturday, 30 December 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Reading 6 West Ham 0 - what a hammering

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 1 January 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

And a well-deserved lot of points for my Fantasy Football frontline of Lita and Doyle :-)

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 1 January 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Alan Curbishley, where are you now?

Yeah, still a couple of points ahead of us, but hey...at least we've crumbled with a shred of dignity intact!

Crouch was superb today for Liverpool, who themselves were as brilliant as Bolton were diabolical.

Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Monday, 1 January 2007 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Oof. The title's impossible to predict this season. Even worse than the dropped points at Newcastle is the fact I forgot to change my fantasy football team yesterday, so two-goal Scholes is wasting away on the bench.

Teh HoBBx (HoBB), Monday, 1 January 2007 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

...speaking of which, Arsenal have just struck a death-blow to Charlton's survival hopes. Watch as they compound this by beating us on Tuesday. :-(

-- Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (papiermachealamphibia...), December 30th, 2006.

qft

Dom Passantino (DomPassantino), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

... and Chelsea fail to close the gap. After Chelsea (and before them Arsenal) dominating the league completely, I've almost forgotten what it's like to have a proper title race. Now they should both drop points and let Liverpool catch up.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

we agreed to drop darren bent and pretend he had an injury, let thierry henry and van persie have our own master surgeon for a week, tell sankofa to concede a penalty and a red card within the first half hour, and order the team to play particularly poorly,

but we reckoned without justin hoyte :-/

Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Dearie me, we look poor at the moment, but I still think United will drop more points than us in the second half of the season, and both will drop enough to drag Liverpool back into it IF they remember how to beat the big teams. We really miss Joe Cole and Cech.

Mourinho gets on with just about every manager (Coleman, Jol, O'Neill, Fergie, Moyes, Warnock and Jewell especially) except Wenger (who doesn't get on with anybody), Rijkaard (who takes it all too seriously) and Benitez (which is bizarre, given that he doesn't have a personality to speak of).

I watched the Fulham game from the executive SUITE next to Roman A. We didn't have prawn sangers but we did have champagne, deep-fried oysters and a blanket to cover ourselves with if it get a bit parky. It was all wrong, but everybody in there was an actual fan and most went to a lot more games than I did, so it just goes to show, eh.

Pete W (petew), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 10:36 (seventeen years ago) link

...decent chance i'll have seats at Anfield for the Arsenal game on Saturday. My cousin reckons they're still in it, especially given United and Chelsea's meh performances these last few days.

giboyojimbo (gbx), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 11:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone who thinks Liverpool can pick up 15 more points than Utd in 16 games is on crack.

Onimo drank ALL the wine! (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 11:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, he's nuts, but he's still holding out hope as long as its still a mathematical possibility.

Guy is bonkers for Liverpool, though. Will be making the trip over to Nou Camp in a bit here, etc.

giboyojimbo (gbx), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 11:32 (seventeen years ago) link

My cousin reckons they're still in it, especially given United and Chelsea's meh performances these last few days.

It's definitely a lot more exciting and unpredictable this season, but I don't see BOTH teams dropping enough points to let Liverpool through. (Also I don't really see how United's 'meh performance' of a draw at Newcastle is worse than Liverpool's defeat at Blackburn).

After Chelsea (and before them Arsenal) dominating the league completely, I've almost forgotten what it's like to have a proper title race. Now they should both drop points and let Liverpool catch up.

I agree, it feels like there hasn't been a race for ages, but to be fair to Arsenal they never actually dominated like Chelsea did. Last season nobody else had a chance: Chelsea were 11 points clear by the end of October, and 16 points clear by this time last year. At this stage of Arsenal's 'invincible' season they weren't even top of the table - they were a point behind United and Chelsea were only three behind them. In the end Arsenal walked it, but there was a race for a while.

Teh HoBBx (HoBB), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 11:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think Liverpool will win it, but they'll give themselves a sniff. We go there at the end of the month and if they win (and they should be favourites on current form), they'll be within striking distance of second. United have to go to Anfield, Emirates, Fratton and the Bridge, while Chelsea's April is horrible. There are a lot of points to be dropped.

Pete W (petew), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 11:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I bet my brother (a Liverpool fan) FIVE ENGLISH POUNDS on Boxing Day that Liverpool wouldn't finish in the top two, never mind win the league. They are looking very strong now, but I would be astonished if they could overhaul United. Mind you, I've been astonished lots of times already this season, I've got no idea what's going to happen next. Chelsea are the conundrum: I keep expecting them to click back into gear and go top, but if they carry on like they are at the moment Liverpool will catch them sooner or later.

Teh HoBBx (HoBB), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 11:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Keeping a clean sheet last night will have restored a lot of confidence, but we're so reliant on Drogba up front it's horrible. Robben back soon, which is key, but Shev (Matt's going to win that bet), Kalou and SWP all misfiring (SWP is shocking).

I still think that, despite everything, if Cech was in goal we'd be top. The FEAR has spread from back-to-front and knocked us all asunder. But we'll right ourselves soon enough.

Petew (petew), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 12:03 (seventeen years ago) link

the blackburn game was a bit disappointing, especially for my first LIVE PREMIERSHIP MATCH, but the atmosphere was great and my cousin is adamant that the reds will at least, as petew said, get within sniffing distance.

giboyojimbo (gbx), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Liverpool will finish 4th. Which is effectively last.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link


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