http://www.premiere.com/feature/3268/20-most-overrated.html
American BeautyChicagoClerksFantasia Field of DreamsChariots of FireGood Will HuntingForrest GumpJules and JimA Beautiful MindMonster's BallMoonstruckMystic RiverNashvilleThe Wizard of OzAn American in ParisEasy RiderThe Red Shoes2001: A Space OddysseyGone With The Wind
― latebloomer (clonefeed), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer (clonefeed), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer (clonefeed), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link
How wrong I was.
― Rumps (Rumps), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link
Does this guy think he's Yoda or something?
― drunk Friendster massage (nklshs), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link
Fuck you, person who uses film's marketing mantra as a defense of said film.
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 1 December 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 1 December 2006 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link
-- Rumps (rumpie7...), December 1st, 2006 3:45 PM. (later)
No, I guess it had to be seen. It's not a baaad movie, it's not good either. But it says a heckovalot about the people who love it and wish life was like that, that we are all innocent people who are being looked after by the people who know best!
ahem.
― M Grout (Mark Grout), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost no, Forrest Gump is a terrible movie.
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 1 December 2006 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link
'the seventh seal' is more overrated and less good than '2001'.
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link
Who is this reviewer even arguing with?? Wouldn't you have to be Forrest Gump to take this movie in this fashion?
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 1 December 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link
It actually was a reasonably well made movie that was Exceeeeeedingly pleased with itself.
(Robin Williams refuses to voice over cartoon where they are smoking, like that would even happen in real life no it wouldn't. And so on)
Hey, that one should be on the list! Wow is it so overrated. By someone, I expect!
― M Grout (Mark Grout), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 1 December 2006 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link
*Altough it was probably written before Altman died. Can't wait for the printed obit.
― C. Grisso/McCain (sandglocks), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link
It's like the laziest of lazy nihilistic (hipster or not) contrarianism. "Yes, you see what we did here? We showed you how the Beatles weren't all that!" You can't figure anything else to write, so you dash out some facile broadside on some pop phenomena.
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 1 December 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― C. Grisso/McCain (sandglocks), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link
And no, I really don't believe the public at large rates many of these movies very highly at all cf what kingfish just said.
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 1 December 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link
haha Moonstruck, Nicholas Cage do not want.
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 1 December 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 1 December 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 1 December 2006 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link
Forrest Gump - KwikSave version of Being There with added Zelig
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link
NOT A DOCUMENTARY!!!
(xpost about Pretty Woman. The fact that they altered the ending made the film null and void, more to the point)
― M Grout (Mark Grout), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link
But seriously? Like half the people I went to film school with thought u>American Beauty was amazing, and half the twenty-somethings who style themselves film buffs b/c they watch the commentary tracks on DVDs agree.
― remy bean (bean), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― drunk Friendster massage (nklshs), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― remy bean (bean), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link
remy, I don't think anyone here should apologize anymore for the fact that you hang out with a lot of idiots. How about you try looking at ILX film thread re: this movie and its director OH WAIT YOU CANNOT IT IS GONE ;_;
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 1 December 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link
But we're 7 years later now, and how many of those same folks are still talking about the movie? Kevin Spacey's been established to the point that its never referred to, Thora Birch is more remembered for Ghost World, and Spiderman-dude and even Donnie Darko-dude has usurped the place that the kid in this one(wes bently, wasn't it?) had.
(xp)
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link
OH OH OH I know let's ask DORKTOR MORBIUS what he thinks, too!
― TOM. BOT. (trm), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― remy bean (bean), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOM. BOT. (trm), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― remy bean (bean), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOM. BOT. (trm), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link
This list was actually published I think nearly a year ago. Though it's nice to see a boring list ignored here for once, until now.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Kenneth Branagh (gcannon), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link
But yeah, having an "underrated" list is a far better use of time & column space.
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link
Wasn't the Red Shoes some corny 'erotic' drama with David Duchovny?
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link
xp
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link
(and constner is an inert gblob)
― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― deep space nine (deep space nine), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link
that and "bottle rocket" UGH
― daria g (dar1a g), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― 69 (pete), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link
I really, truly hated Jules and Jim, but the exact reasons are fuzzy. But I've hated every Truffaut I've seen - sooner or later will have to borrow The 400 Blows just to make sure I can write him off completely.
― milo (milo), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo (milo), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo (milo), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't think I like truffaut either
― daria g (dar1a g), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link
actually it's still better than that deadening manga-esque film 'renaissance' (which also features daniel craig providing the voice for the lead character...hmm..)
― deep space nine (deep space nine), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 1 December 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link
Where's Saving Private Ryan and Platoon?
Disagree:ClerksFantasia The Wizard of Oz (calling this crap is daft btw)2001: A Space OddysseyMoonstruckMystic River
― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link
flicks like Fight Club, or Garden State, or...dare i say it...Napolean Dynamite.
― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― drunk Friendster massage (nklshs), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link
this is brain-dead! and then he calls himself a "critically-inclined person"
― bliss (blass), Saturday, 2 December 2006 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo (milo), Saturday, 2 December 2006 05:19 (seventeen years ago) link
try harder next time!
― nuneb (nuneb), Saturday, 2 December 2006 05:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 2 December 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo (milo), Saturday, 2 December 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― My Mind is Opener than Yours (Modal Fugue), Saturday, 2 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― bliss (blass), Saturday, 2 December 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link
-- milo (wooderso...) (webmail), December 1st, 2006 6:23 PM. (milo)"
fuck you
" #1 underrated movie of all time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVH5JxdM-i0
-- milo (wooderso...) (webmail), December 1st, 2006 6:25 PM. (milo)"
FUCK YOU ANY GIVEN SUNDAY IS THE MOST OVERRATED TURD EVER YOU COCKSUCKER
― aidsy (aidsy), Saturday, 2 December 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― aidsy (aidsy), Saturday, 2 December 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link
"wizard of oz" is the only great movie on this list.
― j.d. (j.d.), Sunday, 3 December 2006 00:01 (seventeen years ago) link
i like "jules and jim" but it's out of place in this list anyway, it's like the only remotely obscure (and not very obscure at that) thing here.
― j.d. (j.d.), Sunday, 3 December 2006 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link
haha you don't live in the south
― latebloomer (clonefeed), Sunday, 3 December 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― nate patrin (natepatrin), Sunday, 3 December 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link
if they had picked Shawshank Redemption the cancelled subscrips woulda sunk em
― dr M (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 December 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― deep space nine (deep space nine), Sunday, 3 December 2006 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link
(They're 100% wrong about a few of those, too: 2001? Wizard of Oz?)
I mean, really, who gives a crap about Forrest Gump?
If anyone thinks there aren't a lot of people out there who rate Forrest Gump, American Beauty, et al...try taking a look at people's favorite movies on, say, Match.com sometime. It's like a Gump/American Beauty/Chocolat lovefest there. And Gump is a permanent part of American popular culture.
And no, I really don't believe the public at large rates many of these movies very highly at all
Not Moonstruck or Jules and Jim, no. But American Beauty, Good Will Hunting, Forrest Gump, A Beautiful Mind, they're like the Four Horsemen of Mediocrity, and they hold sway over a lot of people out there (once you get outside of NYC and DC, anyway).
― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Monday, 4 December 2006 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Monday, 4 December 2006 00:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Monday, 4 December 2006 00:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― deep space nine (deep space nine), Monday, 4 December 2006 00:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer (clonefeed), Monday, 4 December 2006 00:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― max (maxreax), Monday, 4 December 2006 01:27 (seventeen years ago) link
Person 1: ".....[blah blah blah] Moonstruck...."Person 2: "Oh, Moonstruck! I love that movie, it's one of my alltime favorites!"
And I don't really remember too much about Moonstruck, so I'm always a little baffled by it, but I accept it's one of those movies that people really love that did nothing for me.
The other movie where this happens a lot: The Big Lebowski.
― Casuistry (casuistry), Monday, 4 December 2006 01:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 4 December 2006 06:58 (seventeen years ago) link
I finally saw Chicago last summer, and was positively surprised, it was actually better than its reviews suggested.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 4 December 2006 07:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 4 December 2006 07:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Monday, 4 December 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Monday, 4 December 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link
So what's your point -- that it's not true, or just that it's not interesting? If the latter, I can respect that, but if the former, then you're just wrong.
("Random lonely hearts", whatever -- what cross-section would work for you, then?)
and that somehow box office popularity is actually a qualifier for being "overrated"
From what I can tell, the list is a hodgepodge of critical and popular/box-office favorites, no? I mean, it's a mess, but it's certainly not calibrating solely on "box office popularity" (though I'm not sure that you were saying that).
And again, if you're arguing that there aren't a lot of people who rate Forrest Gump, A Beautiful Mind, etc. highly, then you're wrong. If you're arguing that those people are somehow irrelevant, then I might like to know who it is you would consider relevant.
― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link
But if you ask "who gives a crap about Forrest Gump?", then you kinda forfeit the right to wring your hands about it if you get a truthful answer to that question.
― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link
Results 1 - 10 of about 250,000 for american beauty. Results 1 - 10 of about 199,000 for shawshank redemption.Results 1 - 10 of about 197,000 for beautiful mind.Results 1 - 10 of about 186,000 for pretty woman.Results 1 - 10 of about 163,000 for clerks.Results 1 - 10 of about 133,000 for forrest gump.Results 1 - 10 of about 10,500 for moonstruck.
― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― deep space nine (deep space nine), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Joshua Babcock (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Casuistry (casuistry), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link