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has anyone called you CUTE, the term? If so, did it apply? All it makes me think of is Rudloph cartoon when his nose is all plugged up and he yells, "She thinks I'm CUEDTDTD!" Do you like this term? What does it connote to you?

― Abbott (Abbott), Friday, 1 December 2006 06:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Cute is usually a pleasant term. I tend to be more attracted to folks that I consider "cute" than would normally be called "hot." "Hot" people tend to try WAY too hard to be conventionally attractive.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 06:32 (seventeen years ago) link

my motto is publicly cute, privately hot

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 1 December 2006 06:42 (seventeen years ago) link

No, the best compliment I received was FEISTY though. Loved that compliment.

― nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 1 December 2006 08:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i like "omgcuetest"

― durdt bagge stijl (get bent), Friday, 1 December 2006 08:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm 100% with kingfish on this one.

― Sir teh_kit of St.Gregory (g-kit), Friday, 1 December 2006 08:40 (seventeen years ago) link

"cute" people can be seriously fucking annoying in their never-ending quest to get that pat on the head (and a cookie). i think a lot of "cute" girls have weird unresolved daddy-issues.

"hot" doesn't have to mean conventionally attractive; it's more intangible than that.

― durdt bagge stijl (get bent), Friday, 1 December 2006 08:42 (seventeen years ago) link

"hott" is only good when it's tangible.

― Sir teh_kit of St.Gregory (g-kit), Friday, 1 December 2006 08:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm always being called cute, and it does my head in. For me, cute is like a puppy - you want it around, but you don't want to fuck it.

― Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Friday, 1 December 2006 09:10 (seventeen years ago) link

unless you're a furry

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 1 December 2006 09:32 (seventeen years ago) link

For me, cute is like a puppy - you want it around, but you don't want to fuck it.

For you, and for male comedians over the last 40 years.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 1 December 2006 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Bernard Manning != cute

― Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Friday, 1 December 2006 11:12 (seventeen years ago) link

haha jb otm. i've been thinking about cute vs hott bc i said something to someone about current crushboy being "cute" then realised he isn't cute At. All. but he is really hott.

― emsk ( emsk ), Friday, 1 December 2006 11:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Cute [kyoot]
...
3. mentally keen; clever; shrewd.

― Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 1 December 2006 11:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Cuteness in itself isn't necessarily hott, but cuteness can be a constituent of hottness. And is there a gender difference? Cute girls are usually hott, but does teh same happen for cute guys?

― Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Friday, 1 December 2006 12:01 (seventeen years ago) link

The correct response to this is always "I know".

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 1 December 2006 12:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I prefer 'sweet'. I don't know any 'cute' people. Baby animals are cute.

Now the word is annoying me. cute cute cute queuet kyeeoot. Sounds weird.

― Rumps (Rumps), Friday, 1 December 2006 13:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Cute [kyoot]
...
3. mentally keen; clever; shrewd.

Yeah, this was the sense it was used in, n Mill On The Floss, i.e. "acute" and it did my head in that they wanted cute boys and girls that weren't cute. Surely that should be the other way around in that age and place?

― masonic boom (kate), Friday, 1 December 2006 13:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not "cute" (in the original sense) at all. And it kinda bugs me that I'm not cute, and never get considered cute. The only place I ever get to be "cute" is onstage, where I get to "act cute" even though I'm not and never am in real life. But it's playing a role.

Sometimes people have thought me Hott, but that's not the same thing. Hott is a sexual thing, cute is more a way of being, a different sense of attractiveness. (if you find that sort of thing attractive. I find it *REVOLTING* in girls, but hey, lots of men seem to find it entrancing.)

― masonic boom (kate), Friday, 1 December 2006 13:43 (seventeen years ago) link

some use cute as a noncommittal hot. it has so many variants you need context to make any sense.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

but for the record, i'm a fan.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Cute [kyoot]
...
3. mentally keen; clever; shrewd.

This is used often in conjunction with the word "hoor" in Ireland. As in, "he'd have the eyes out of your head. He's some cute hoor, that fell."

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 1 December 2006 14:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the main thing about "cute" is that cute is non-threatening.

that's why it's such a girly thing. That girls should be cute, because too hott (sexy) is kinda threatening. And boys don't like being called cute because the traditional archetype for a hott boy involves some element of danger.

― masonic boom (kate), Friday, 1 December 2006 14:06 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah but sometimes they're used interchangeably, it's like that.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

"Cute" is pretty much the only compliment I ever get. :p

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonster), Friday, 1 December 2006 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

girls should be cute, because too hott (sexy) is kinda threatening

Really? Sexy is . . . well, sexy, and so also a good thing. Cute and sexy are certainly not incompatible with each other.

What I'm saying, is that if sexy wasn't sexy, then it wouldn't be sexy.

Although I'm with you that archetype hott boy does have some danger/mystery/unknowability - see all Jane Austen ever.

― Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Friday, 1 December 2006 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

What is the male equivalent of the Jane Austen Male?

All I've read about this is that Germaine Greer essay, talking about Fantasy Predatory Women in detective novels.

― masonic boom (kate), Friday, 1 December 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I get called cute ridiculously often, which I think is because a) I am a small person, b) I look younger than my age (less so now than I used to though), c) I smile a lot, and most importantly, d) I have a cute name. (No really, my last name is part of a cliche involving the word "cute." It's so annoying.) I wouldn't mind being a bit more sexy and a bit less cute, but they don't seem to be mutually exclusive.

― Maria e (Maria), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think i've been called cute in a year. but god bless that girl and her poor choice making ways.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't get called cute and I definitely don't get called hot. The best I've been called is "attractive", which is so bloody ambiguous that they might as well have not bothered.

― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I have very little understanding of the Venn relationship between sexy and cute. You want to protect cute things and preserve their cuteness, not fuck their glasses off. Err, right?

I do understand the appeal of despoiling cute things but not how that appeal is supposed to last, assuming the association lasts. I suppose to the supply of cute is renewable up to a certain age but that still seems like kind of a dead end.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i have actual WRITTEN PROOF that someone, somewhere, at sometime, once thought i was hot. again, god bless that girl and her poor choices.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

the urge is to expose the sexy hiding beneath the cute. the glasses can be the cute see, then you fuck them right off.

also cute is just charming, fulfilling all sorts of other needs.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

My bets friend describes the typical woman I'm attracted to as "Small, cute and slightly dizzy." So I guess i do want to fuck their glasses off after all...

― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

it's somehow not been mentioned here that cute is used in wildly differing ways by men and women.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, baby animals with eyes the size of saucers are cute, in my book. That's probably not what you were going for.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

weird, seems usually women are more likely to use cute as a stand in for attractive.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

a lot of men never admit to being subject to the forces of cuteness ever, under any circumstances, not even puppies.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

who can't admit to the inherent cuteness of puppies?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

tuff guyz

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

CUET

http://www.babyanimalz.com/images/images2/cutekitten.jpg

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/1806/bjork-1.jpg

yeah but her too

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

being called cute used to really annoy me, probably because things like big-eyed kittens and bjork (sorrry) and such make me want to vomit. i HATE whimsy, and to me cute implies that and seems patronizing as well. i'm learning to deal with my anger issues, though.

― Lauren (lauren), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm with her.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

well i'm sure i hate bjork in the same way you do, but still i would enjoy humping her glasses clean off - which demonstrates the cute/libido connection.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Cute and not sexy: Bjork and kittens.
Cute AND sexy: Beth Orton and Joanna Newsom

(I know I'm in the minority with the Bjork!=sexy thing)

― Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

some find kittens sexy

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

They are also in the minority.

― Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

http://scoopsnoodle.com/lix/bjork.gif

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm also with Kate, in that I find premeditated cuteness in girls really off-putting. It ought to be something you ARE, not something you LOOK LIKE. Or something. I haven't thought it out, tbh -- too annoyed.

NB: I say this as someone who always wanted to be striking and Amazon-like and ended up fresh-faced and short.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Abbott called me cute on wdyll.

― grady (grady), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Cute does NOT mean unthreatening. Believe that at your peril.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't mind being called cute, when and if that ever happens. (Rarely these days)

It's better than nothing!! If cute is what I have, I might as well work it. I will never be striking glamazon or Busty Russell.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

http://scoopsnoodle.com/lix/kit.jpg

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I am with everyone who finds Bjork non-sexy.

― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Friday, 1 December 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I tend to be more attracted to folks that I consider "cute" than would normally be called "hot."

Yeah, me too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

(Which is probably absolutely no surprise to anyone who has met anyone I've dated.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Coming from a busty Amazon, I've spent my whole life wishing I was *cute*. Can't win, can you?

― masonic boom (kate), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Nah. Or rather, we can all win -- just not with the strategy we'd planned ahead of time.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

You want to protect cute things and preserve their cuteness, not fuck their glasses off. Err, right?

No.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never been "handsome", "hot", or "studly" (not that anyone says that, not anymore). I've always been "cute", which I've never really known what to do with.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

NB: I say this as someone who always wanted to be striking and Amazon-like and ended up fresh-faced and short.

OTM X 1000!

As for men and women using the word cute in different ways - I also use it to describe things that are not cute in a physical sense, to mean "sweet" and "mildly amusing," and I have never ever heard a man use it that way.

― Maria e (Maria), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

"That's a cute top you've got on."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Y'all should read the chapter on "cute" in Daniel Harris's Cute, Quaint, Hungry, and Romantic.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

dude has a pretty impoverished version of cute

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I was gonna say -- unless that chapter gets more interesting (and I did just put the book on my reading list), he's not really hitting the mark.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

i was searching for pictures of Iraq carnage and stumbled upon the cutest lil' soldier you ever did see. awww, she couldn't hurt nobody. i'll bet bubble gum comes out of her rifle:

http://static.flickr.com/94/231933325_a2360e15c8.jpg?v=0

― scott seward (121212), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

anyway, i came on here to say that i would call my maria cute more often if i weren't so staggered by her beauty. true story!

― scott seward (121212), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

(xpost) It's an interesting take, though. Dude is cranky.

Also worth reading: "A Biological Homage to Mickey Mouse," by Stephen Jay Gould, in which he claims that "babyish features [in both actual babies and in animals] tend to elicit strong feelings of affection in adult humans."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

too true. on the dark side of cute, aging animals bred to look like babies - ie a 15 y/o poodle. yr just all what have they done to you?!

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm also with Kate, in that I find premeditated cuteness in girls really off-putting.

It depends on how far it goes. If it's wearing a little cardy, I don't mind. If it's "hewwo, do oo wike my buttefwy?" it makes me want to throttle them. "YOU'RE FUCKING THIRTY! GROW UP!"

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 1 December 2006 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

"hewwo, do oo wike my buttefwy?"
http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00226/Kim_Jong_Il_226574s.jpg

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno, that soldier looks kinda evil to me.

― sundarsubramanian (SundarS), Friday, 1 December 2006 23:43 (seventeen years ago) link

weird unresolved daddy-issues.

THE WORST

― friday (lfam), Saturday, 2 December 2006 00:07 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess that i think that "cute" and "hot" are two different things, but i would be lying if i said that i didnt want to fuck the glasses off of both cute and hot girls. its just different kinds of attractiveness maybe.

― t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Saturday, 2 December 2006 00:17 (seventeen years ago) link

also, i have been called cute and hot by the same person, but in different circumstances. i think that is a key point maybe.

― t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Saturday, 2 December 2006 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link

ihttp://www.2xy.org/2004/blotter/shitbitch.jpg

― PappaWheelie III (PappaWheelie III), Saturday, 2 December 2006 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.hemmy.net/images/animals/cuteanimal04.jpg

― scott seward (121212), Saturday, 2 December 2006 01:22 (seventeen years ago) link

When I was five, my sister's friends would always call me 'cute,' but circa fourth grade, that stopped. I remember in seventh grade, some girls made a list of boys and how cute they were. After finding out about it and bugging my friend for a day or so, i found out that i was considered 'ok' by girls. Everyone thought my nose was my best feature. ???

― Tape Store (Tape Store), Saturday, 2 December 2006 01:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Cute seems a natural thing to call people on the online. I just really despised the word for about 3 weeks after I got this job at a diner waitressing half the time and dusting the country-time patchwork angel knicknacks up front. Jesus aitch, I heard so many dipshit arteriosclerotic red hat society bitches call all that tacky shit "cute" every goddamn mintue. I came home from work the first day and said, "OK, the work cute is now banned in this house."

Now I am over that and can describe my freakishly exponential crushed-upon folks as cute, fucking cute, totally adorable, good goddamn they are cute...I don't know how well the sailor talk and the fawning intertwine, but so goes my mouth.

― Abbott (Abbott), Saturday, 2 December 2006 05:59 (seventeen years ago) link

people use it really differently. don't like the hot term unless it is for someone i don't know - very random person, celebrity, person i would never... for me, cute is a simple and probably not adequate way to say you find the person hot/pleasant/adorable so feel some measure of affection for them etc. on top of wanting to xxxx them usually. and i rarely feel moved to point out things that are just plain old cute---babies, etc. seems unecessary, trite.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Saturday, 2 December 2006 08:25 (seventeen years ago) link

C/H: Jenna Fischer?

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 06:20 (seventeen years ago) link

more hot, i'd say

― paresthesia hilton (get bent), Thursday, 7 December 2006 06:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I always feel like I'm quoting Seventeen magazine if I call someone "hot." The worst slangy for this idea was "fine," as in "he's so." It's as bad as styrofoam rubbing together.

― Abbott (Abbott), Thursday, 7 December 2006 07:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I had to do a lex-like googlerun to find her out. From the couple of eps I've seen she's a LOT like the british The Office receptionist - cute rather than hot, but somehow my brain got tricked into thinking she was hot. But cute, I think, then hot.

― Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Thursday, 7 December 2006 08:50 (seventeen years ago) link

As far as I know, I've never in my life been called "hot". I usually get "handsome" and occasionally "cute", but never ever "hot". That said, I'm like Susan w/r/t using "hot" myself.

― Rodney and His Gang vs. Mr. Tooth Decay (Rodney J. Greene), Thursday, 7 December 2006 09:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not entirely sure who thinks I'm cute, who thinks I'm hot, and what the difference is.

I know what most women seem to think my best features are, though.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 7 December 2006 09:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I have NO IDEA what women see in me. (They usually don't, but that might just be my inner cynic talking). I think I'm more likely to be hot than cute, since tall-ish people like me are NEVER cute.

― Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

So cute things, like baby animals and people who are charming/appealing/non-threatening/etc -- my mental shorthand for them is "snowglobe", meaning I want to have them around to enjoy their appealing qualities, and the pinnacle of that wd be to keep them in snowglobes on my dresser and shake 'em up whenver I want a laugh/coo. There are definitely strains of my own convenience and of ownership or...possession, and perhaps for some people also a little exclusivity too, ie, that no one else can partake of their cuteness?

I'm thinking that for me there's no sexual component, I don't want to get off with the cute object, I just want to take it in, make it mine forever (cf also, "I could eat that kitten's head in ONE BITE" -- didn't someone write that eating something is the ultimate loving destruction? I forget). But then one of the wise ladies of a certain age said on another thread that she feels the key to her feminine sexuality is the knack of enticing things to cross her threshold willingly, rather than a desire to invade them so maybe there's a male/female divide here.

Discus.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

cutness rules f u guyz

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

But then one of the wise ladies of a certain age said on another thread that she feels the key to her feminine sexuality is the knack of enticing things to cross her threshold willingly, rather than a desire to invade them so maybe there's a male/female divide here.

Is this where I've been going wrong?

No, this seems like such a narrow view of feminine sexuality. but maybe that's what you're getting at - that this is the *cute* stereotype, as opposed to the hott one.

― masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Please note that I said "her feminine sexuality", not "hers, yours, and everyone's, forever and ever amen." Didn't mean anything else by it.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha, Kingfish -- I've been annoying my girlfriend lately by talking about how hot Jenna Fischer is -- I don't think she's ever actually seen The Office, though. I'm realizing now that part of the reason I used the word "hot" (besides the jokey annoyance factor) because a) she's cute, and b) she's on TV -- which has the effect of translating her cuteness into something else. When my girlfriend finds women on TV attractive (like Penelope Cruz, or the actress who plays Marta on Arrested Development, or Alexis Bledel) she says they're "beautiful."

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

*...annoyance factor) is because...

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

In our house, we use the word 'gorgeous'. I have observed that people sometimes shorten this to 'gorge', and this is very wrong.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

she's on TV -- which has the effect of translating her cuteness into something else.

She's on tv therefore she must be attractive/her attractiveness has been tacitly approved therefore I find her (random appealing but nonsexual qualities) attractive? That doesn't necessarily seem like you, John, but it's the only chain of reasoning that comes to mind.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

More like: She's on TV therefore she must be attractive/her attractiveness has been tacitly approved therefore I find her (personally appealing sexual qualities) smoothed out somehow.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Alexis Bledel looks like an alien baby, not beautiful.

i was searching for pictures of Iraq carnage and stumbled upon the cutest lil' soldier you ever did see. awww, she couldn't hurt nobody. i'll bet bubble gum comes out of her rifle:
Have you seen the "OMG HOT ISRAELI SOLDIERESS" blogs?

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

In our house, we use the word 'gorgeous'. I have observed that people sometimes shorten this to 'gorge', and this is very wrong.

No you are very wrong! George-ous is also acceptable.

I am neither cute nor hott I am more: I am kv_nol, hear me roar!

― kv_nol (kv_nol), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think that her being on TV makes her more attractive(she'd have to be in a band for automatic-attractive-increasing), but they do play up the adorable factor, if you will.

http://myspace-901.vo.llnwd.net/01424/10/95/1424025901_l.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e356/SLiTHERGrant/Halloween.jpg

(runs her own myspace, she does)

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think being on TV makes her more attractive. I think it makes her more "Hot."

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, i agree with that. we need more of a branding, tho. "Hot"(TM)(R) or something.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

the funny thing is the joke abt that character is being the only attractivish female in the office is what makes her hot (if i'm thinking of the right person, i've only seen the english one - the receptionist, right?)

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

oh hey look a picture that says receptionist ok

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

The person we're talking about is the receptionist on the US version.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish you would detail why her being on tv makes her hotter to you, J. Because TEH SYSTEM has declared that she's hot by virtue of casting her? Because as a result of that, she's famous? Because being a) declared hot and b) famous makes her more widely desired and therefore a greater prize?

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

well most people on tv are pretty hot in real life, only appearing normal when judged by tv hotness standards - so maybe she's just actually hot.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Hello, not the point. He said her being on tv MADE HER HOTTER. And he usually says exactly what he means.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I think you're misunderstanding me. I find her just as attractive as I would if she wasn't on TV. But her being on TV imbues her with a quality that allows me to use the word "hot" instead of "cute" -- it makes her attractiveness more universal and broadly acceptable somehow.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, it's the "somehow" that I'm interested in.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

That's what I was getting at with the branding/trade-marking. Being on the TV added more "Hot"(TM), "Hot"(TM) in this case being some marketable quality divorced from any actual attractiveness.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

no it could actually be the point - see, judging her hotness by tv standards, but then perceiving her actually real life hotness subconsciously; could produce a sensation, similar to deja vu, where in one believe her hotness to have been amplified by the tv.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

When applied to a person's physical appearance, "hot" has a mildly objective connotation to me. There are people that are "hot" that we don't even have to argue about whether they're *really* hot or not -- that's just part of who they are. So Jenna Fischer, because she's a celebrity, acquires this descriptor more readily than if she worked at a bagel shop and I secretly thought she was "cute."

I do, however, use "hot," when not referring to a specific person, to mean "sexy" or "something I find personally attractive" -- as in "nipple rings are hot" or "submission is hot" (please not to read too much into these examples!!).

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

too late

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

How do you fellows & guys feel about being called "pretty"?

― Abbott (Abbott), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Nipple piercings and submission? Whatever happened to tube tops and stiletto heels?? Clearly I have been going about this all wrong.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/target/earth/7inch_36/rodney.gif

― Abbott (Abbott), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm fine with it, Abbott. A little surprised or embarrassed perhaps, but ultimately fine.

― sede vacante (blueski), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess it depends who be saying it.

― sede vacante (blueski), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't like heels or red lipstick.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I know, but you just said we shouldn't take the nips or SM as representative either, so you could have used anything. ANYTHING AT ALL!

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, it's the "somehow" that I'm interested in.
Distance? Perhaps it's easier to sexualize (original version: 'picture naked and sweaty') the cute girl you'll never meet as opposed to the librarian you could realistically date?

How do you fellows & guys feel about being called "pretty"?
I have never been called pretty (because I'm not - I should improve my skin moisturizing regime).

Possible breakdown:
Cute coming from girl about guy: death-knell of potential sex.
Cute coming from guy about girl: I'd totally hit it.
Pretty from girl about guy: sure he's not gay?
Pretty coming from guy about girl: she's OK, but I wouldn't really hit it.
Hot from girl about guy: I'd hit it
Hot from guy about girl: I'd hit it AND/OR I have no chance of hitting it

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

ENGL 523 - "The Semiotics of Cute" - 4 credits - MWF 8:30-10:00 - MLB 231

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

the actress who plays Marta on Arrested Development

the FIRST one was TOTALLY hot, the second one, not so much. fwiw.

― max (maxreax), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm only on Season 1! You have confuddled me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

sometimes girls use cute when wanting to hit it - omg he's rilly ca-yoote!

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, milo, I agree with everything except girls using cute about guys, which sometimes seems *more* like "I'd hit it" than when guys use cute about girls -- that is, I don't think girls make much of a distinction between "cute" and "hot," whereas guys sometimes use "cute" as an inferior term.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

ENGL 523 - "The Semiotics of Cute" - 4 credits - MWF 8:30-10:00 - MLB 231

I would totally get up at 8 AM to take this class.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm only on Season 1! You have confuddled me.
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), December 7th, 2006.

Two different actresses played the same character, I believe.

― Mr. Que (Party with me Punker), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

more male cuteness vs hotness discussion please . . .

cute but not hot : Tab Hunter
hot but not cute : Daniel Craig

I suspect that for gay men it's an age thing, but it's also a self-consciousness thing. Cute people tend to radiate a kind of innocence, an "aw shucks" ignorance, whereas hot people tend to have a look in their eye that says "I know what I want". So . . . can we come up with examples of the elusive male who is both hot and cute? the only example i can think of off the top of my head is Joe Dallesandro circa the Paul Morrissey films like Heat and Trash. He's totally young enough to rock "cute", but because he's a hustler who has seen it all he's also fully self-conscious about his hotness, i.e. he knows the effect he has on others and manipulates them accordingly. Hotness in men has something to do with being able to size up situations and take control of them (hustlers need that skill).

― Dr. Drew Daniel, PhD (Drew Daniel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think girls make much of a distinction between "cute" and "hot," whereas guys sometimes use "cute" as an inferior term.

I don't know, I've heard plenty of girls call guys "cute" in that slightly derogatory/demeaning way, especially with regard to short/non-threatening guys. "Oh, he's so cute!"

In my own lexicon, "cute" is a nice middle ground between hot/sexy and beautiful/pretty. It means "there's something about her that I find compelling". And maybe it implies an acknowledgement that the person might not be mainstream-attractive, that there's something offbeat about their looks, but that it works for me. (Maybe even: that I can imagine this person and me as a couple, that we'd make sense together, visually speaking.)

"Pretty" and "beautiful" are more remote and feel more "objective" (to use Jaymc's word), like it's relative to conventional/mainstream standards of beauty. "Beautiful" especially implies some kind of sublime experience to me, like the perfection or visual rightness of this person is amazing and moving to you. "Attractive" is a little generic and usually doesn't imply much investment. "Hot" means that looking at the person makes me actively and viscerally want them sexually.

A person can of course be all of these things at different times, and in different worlds (the public world vs. the private world you share with them).

xpost For me there's def. an association between "cute" and young/youthfulness. I suspect for most people that's true, really.

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Cute - Veronica Mars
Hot - Mary-Louise Parker
Pretty - I can't really think of a celebrity that would be called pretty rather than one of the other adjectives
Beautiful - Nicole Kidman
Sexy - the evil blond ADA from that crappy James Woods legal show

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

but lots of men are cute and hot.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Lord of the Rings is a decent enough litmus test, I guess. YMMV.

cute and handsome but not hot: Elijah Wood
hot and handsome but not cute: Viggo Mortensen
cute and hot but not handsome: Dominic Monaghan
handsome but not hot or cute: David Wenham
hot but not handsome or cute: Sean Bean
cute but not hot or handsome: Sean Astin
cute, handsome, AND hot: Ornaldo Bloomps

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

re pretty: Natalie Portman

― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Ornaldo Bloomps is the definition of pretty.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Yep, he's a pretty boy incarnate.

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I was going to suggest Cary Grant circa 1937 for the intersection of cute and hot, but I guess he was more the intersection of beautiful and hot.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

It's as much of a cliché as my mention of Ornaldo, but Johnny Depp can move/has moved between the three categories (cute/hot/handsome) about as freely as anyone I can think of.

As for women, when I think cute, I think:

http://bds4me.netwiz.net/0010-self.jpg

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

(Actually, maybe more like the intersection of "cute" and "pretty", there)

(Also see: Jena Malone)

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I think maybe there's no difference between cute and pretty for women? or cute includes but is not limited to pretty?

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know, I can think of plenty of women who I don't think are particularly pretty, but who I think are cute. If anything, I think pretty is a superset of cute, maybe?

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

rugged/handsome = adama
pretty boy = apollo
sexy = number six
hot = athena/boomer
cute = cally
pretty = baltar

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

lurker, who is in the pic you just posted?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

That's Kellie Martin, formerly of "Life Goes On".

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

replacing 'cute/hott' with 'pretty/sexy' there are lots of (famous/sleb) women i think of as pretty but not sexy. Natalie Portman a prime example. Miranda Otto (altho the French accent in Human Nature is obv. uber-sexy). Keira Knightley also. Maybe even Kirsten Dunst. As for examples of 'sexy but not pretty*'...Lindsay Lohan, Fergie BEP, hell loads of porn actresses...this is all pretty dumb obvious two-way projection stuff of course.

*obv. we're talking relatively, and other people will totally disagree. and i wouldn't bother trying to establish the 'logic' behind any of it.

some come across as both - and i take my hat off to them accordingly.

― sede vacante (blueski), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Boomer is hot? This totally does not compute. She's pleasant enough-looking, I'll grant, and I do in fact LIKE her, but HOT? I find her so affectless and inscrutable that nothing of her personality comes across in her face AT ALL, and feature-by-feature she is merely pleasant.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i HATE whimsy

This kind of blows my mind. NB I'm not big on cute pictures of kittens and so forth -- but then again I don't think of those as "whimsy" so much as kitsch or twee or whatever.

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm realizing that for me, pretty/beautiful/handsome is in the features and hot/would crush again A+++ is in the personality and animation. Huh. Also, Horsehoe OTM: men can TOTALLY be beautiful, although a certain degree of fine-bonedness and definition of cheekbone is probably required.

Not to second-guess Lauren, but I read her "whimsy" as the "HER KOOKINESS WILL SAVE YOU"-kind of purposefully inexplicable dizzy girl thing.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Fair enough -- affected childlike-ness, that sort of thing. Which is annoying 95% of the time, and remarkably attractive when you're dealing with the 1 in 20 people who can pull it off (usually in a playful way that contrasts with their basic intelligence/maturity).

And, you know, one of the things I find magnetic about that picture I posted above is that her eyes look intent and intelligent. Earlier you wrote this:

I'm thinking that for me there's no sexual component, I don't want to get off with the cute object, I just want to take it in, make it mine forever

In a weird way this is true of my response too. As in, I don't look at that picture above and think "I'd like to get off with her"; it's more like, "I'd like to marry her, or someone who looked like that". There's a romantic component, but the sexual component is...it's in the future tense, somehow, and the main desire is for fusion, not ownership. But I'm a little atypical in that way, I think.

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

boomer can be hot sometimes! y'know, when she squints her eyes and looks determined, i think. but i don't know, i think we have to get inside the mind of boys for this one, and inside there, boomer is hot.
my version would be:
handsome/rugged = adama
pretty boy = apollo
sexy = gaius
hot = gaeta
cute = chief

that was totally an excuse to think about battlestar for a minute

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Ahhh, sweet, sweet fusion. (XP)

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

CUTE FUSION
xpost!
hahaha

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Kellie Martin is android-cute. Her designers rounded off every feature to be somewhat attractive, but entirely forgettable until the day she turns into The Terminator.

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

one of my favorite permutations of this is the handsome woman. I know someone who can be described no other way. I shall try to think of a celebrity example.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

angelica houston?

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

handsome/rugged = brett favre
pretty boy = tom brady
sexy = ???? halp? matt leinart?
hot = michael vick
cute = peyton manning

xpost celebrity example: Hillary Swank

― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

SPEAKING OF FUSION: ROBYN, WHICH ONE OF US GETS THE BRAIN THIS EVENING?? I might need it for a while, are you writing anything important?

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, she was the first that came to mind. she's a little pretty for a handsome woman, but she'll do till I think of someone better.

xpost: YES, Ally! god, thank you!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

handsome != horse-faced.

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

~~cute~~ doof = peyton manning

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Hillary Swank != horse-faced

― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Kellie Martin is android-cute. Her designers rounded off every feature to be somewhat attractive, but entirely forgettable until the day she turns into The Terminator.

You really think so? I don't know, I think she's kind of funny-looking, especially in other pictures. But funny-looking in a way that works for me / her basic "thing" works for me.

xpost Katharine Hepburn?

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Annie Lennox

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

where does Christina Ricci fit in? She's not sexy. She's not cute. She's not ugly. She's not hot, pretty, etc..

Is she 'distinctive'?

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a huge crush on C. Ricci when I was 19. I think I thought of her as "cute" and "sexy."

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

you can have it! i've been using it a lot lately! but tonight i am just going to go food shopping and watch the O.C.! mmm, vegetative state
xpost to l

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Matt Leinart is also a pretty boy, I think. prettier than Tom Brady. also pretty : Joey Harrington. I'm drawing a blank for sexy QBs...maybe Michael Vick has to do double duty?

xpost: Katharine Hepburn came close to being a handsome woman, but she's straight-up beautiful.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

handsome/rugged = Dan Dority
pretty boy = Sol Star
sexy = Seth Bullock
hot = Al Swearengen
cute = Dan Dority's funny-looking sidekick

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

president roslyn?

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Christina Ricci has gone from "cute" to "theoretically hot but in reality kinda scary".

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

(Same for Brittany Murphy.)

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

katherine hepburn was really beautiful though - her personality would be the thing that makes her handsome

yeah, c ricci is another dimension of cute/sexy, it's kind of weird

more of the XPOST from me

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.hbo.com/deadwood/img/castandcrew/actors/johnhawkes.jpg

pretty?

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Do Ashton Kutcher and Tom Welling count as pretty boys?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

rugged/handsome = ?
pretty boy = Sydnor
sexy = Lester
hot = McNulty
cute = Bunk
pretty = Lt. Daniels

xpost - dude it's DEADWOOD. Who else is going to be pretty?

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Tom Welling is beautiful in that way that Angelina Jolie is beautiful: sort of pushing past human into alien territory.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

again, with roslyn it's a personality issue - when she's not presidented up, she's kind of beautiful and flowly. oh oh, i know - STRIKING

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Handome as applied to women requires a certain statue/gravitas/firmness of feature, I think? (Firmness as in...resolve/confidence, not as in lack of wrinkles/sagging).

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

oo! oo! nother pretty man in a western = Billy Zane(before he lost all his hair) in Tombstone

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, exactly, Laurel. Frances McDormand, too, maybe.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Err, stature. (XXXXP)

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

rugged/handsome = Caesar
pretty boy = Brutus
sexy = Titus Pullo
hot = Lucius Vorenus
cute = Mark Antony
pretty = Octavian

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

That 70s Show is still the hottest cast on TV, and Laura Prepon is like the 4th hottest one.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

y'know, i think Cillian Murphy might be the male equivalent to Christina Ricci, as far as these attractiveness labels go

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

because he kind of looks like an alien? he's prettier than Ricci, I think.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Cillian had the weird mix of pretty boy/Thunderbird-plastic in the batman flick

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Laura Prepon was #1 TV hottie until she went blonde during the seasons I didn't watch.

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

even though there's a 70% chance she's a Scientologist.

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Mila Kunis is about the most conventionally "hot" girl that I find compelling, probably because she has a pretty high cute/neotenous element. Definitely a straight-up sexual, not romantic or protective, attraction there.

xpost

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

milo totally otm
laura prepon = more hot with red hair, obv
xpost
yeah, alien looking, scary/cute/weird eyes

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.parecidosrazonables.com/cillian-murphy-tom-welling.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

thank you for new word, lurker2421

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

The patron saint of "hot, but not handsome or particularly cute" (though the big eyes do help):

http://film.onet.pl/_i/news/duze/j/jeff_goldblum_2.jpg

xpost you're welcome, isn't it a great word?

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

ew. that is crazy talk. Jeff Goldblum is gross.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I find the woman in this current British TV ad for Baxter's soup spellbindingly pretty. She has a delicious voice too.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Seriously, though, That 70s Show = small handsome boyish dude (Topher Grace), rosy-cheeked, floppy-haired pretty-boy (Ashton Kutcher), and dark-haired saucer-eyed cute/sassy girl (Mila Kunis). All my types on one show. Prepon is totally expendable.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

(NB of course not everyone shares the Goldblum-love, but for some he's the epitome)

xpost like I said.

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

thank you for new word, lurker2421

Ha, I know! I cracked open the Webster's on my desk.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

haha what is that? i have internet

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I am a copy editor. :D

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

the longish hair really does a lot to help cillian murphy not seem so weird/scary but we know the truth

in fact, that kind of hair does a lot for most people/men - creates approachable cuteness factor - deceptive

xpost haha I KNOW

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i know what a good word for that kind of hair is

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

(it's not Jeff Goldblum's face that's gross, just his unctuous being).

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

what is Tom Hanks??

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

ack jeff goldblum no

xpost Tom Hanks is horrible

― Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (Allyzay Ei, Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, and longish hair only served to make him more horrible! i cannot deal with his nose. i wish he would go back to comedy.

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

because comedy really does make weird-looking men more attractive, i think

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

not that attractiveness is the goal for him, or anyone. or maybe it is.

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

not that attractiveness is the goal for him, or anyone. or maybe it is.

Probably on most people's Top 5, I'd wager.

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, true, v true

also in comedy-making-people-more-attractive zone:
jack black - seriously now, dude is starring opposite kate winslet, hottest beautiful woman in the world, probably?
owen wilson
vince vaugn
jerry seinfeld (?)
chris rock

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, what did you say? I couldn't hear you over the hair dryer. (XP)

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Jerry Seinfeld had the quote(or at least, Conan attributed it to him) that nobody who thinks that they're good-looking is funny.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

that's pretty otm

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Not true! Baltar! In season 1, at least. He is funny despite himself, though.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Is Joan Cusack handsome?

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

no. Allison Janney is handsome.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

handsome/rugged = Josh Homme or mebbe Hugh Laurie?
pretty boy = Adrian Brody (almost typed Adrian Belew, ack!)
sexy = ...all I can think of is my fiance
hot = Buster Keaton
cute = Bud Cort back in the day

― Abbott (Abbott), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the Sarah Silverman fetish that I don't understand has the comedy madness factor.

― Abbott (Abbott), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

she's much hotter than she is funny. but I have the hate.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually I think SS is beautiful! So haughty...until mouth opens.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

She's gorgeous and the first time I ever saw her was on 'Greg the Bunny' where she wasn't particularly funny. She is most decidedly not cute, however.

― Michael White (Miguelito), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

How would you characterize Laurie Anderson? There's something "cute" about her -- short spiky hair, moon face, dimples, playfulness -- and she can definitely take on an angelic mien:

http://www.maths.lth.se/matematiklu/personal/apas/laurie/laurie1.gif

But she's also got those biceps and a piercing stare, which gives her a certain fierceness:

http://estiej.webpark.pl/images/laurie_anderson.jpg

Then again, sometimes she just looks like Tim Robbins:

http://c250.columbia.edu/Images/c250_celebrates/remarkable_columbians/bio_images_big/laurie-anderson-2.jpg

At any rate, I find her immensely compelling.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeesh, really? I don't find her very attractive at all, certainly not on a purely physical basis. Way too horsey for my taste.

Laurie Anderson's got something, but not my thing.

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

omg, Tim Robbins! Tim Robbins is where cute and hot intersect!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Thing is, it has to do with whether the guy(we'll use guys here) thinks he's hot shit or not, not whether he actually is or not.

Attractive people don't need to develop attractive personalities, to put it another way.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

(that first line was an xpost about Sarah Silverman)

xpost also the problem with using famous men as an example is that we get into Kissinger territory here, which complicates matters.

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh jaymc, Laurie Anderson def. has the sexy, like a more elegant Patti Smith, who also has the sexy.

― Abbott (Abbott), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

(Though I'm thinking more of their access to the signifiers of wealth, particularly high-end tailored clothing which, of course, shapes a lot of how we perceive each other...)

xpost

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Re Kissinger territory: it's not just publicly acknowledged power that attracts (or sometimes not at all), it's also the power that a person gathers to him- or herself by her bearing. And Laurie Anderson = beautiful.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, I think I don't know that "moon-faced" means at all -- I always assumed it meant broad in the cheek, broadly smiling, round like a full moon. LA is not these things!

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

C. Ricci is the classic moonface. That or people with Cushing's.

― Abbott (Abbott), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess I have a hard time constructing a way in which Jerry Seinfeld can be thought of as attractive that doesn't involve his power!

But seriously, I agree with you, and that's kind of my point, actually -- that using famous people makes it impossible to differentiate between personal magnetism and the magnetism attached to fame and fortune. Not that we have any alternative, really.

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

OTOH I think Jack Black has perfectly fine features, it's mainly his weight that moves him from the "conventional" category to "offbeat".

― lurker #2421 (lurker #2421.1), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

LA has my thing, which is to say, that chiselled lip outline and obstinate chin. It ages so well, too.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurie Anderson has a round face, though, doesn't she? I'm more likely to find round-faced women attractive (cf. Ricci) than long-faced women (cf. Sarah Jessica Parker) -- which is why I'm stumped that I find Sarah Silverman as hot as I do. (I think maybe there's a touch of cute wrapped up in the hot.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, Jack Black is v. handsome.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Jack Black is k-cute but I think it's due to my thing for eyebrows like his.

I think Silverman looks like an evil snakewoman.

― Abbott (Abbott), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

From straight-on LA's face is quite long, it's just that she has a high forehead, so the features are a little closer together at the bottom (and considering that the opposite of "moon-faced" is apparently "horsey", no one can win this game, I'm afraid). Round-faced is maybe this?

http://jeremyfreese.blogspot.com/garofalo.jpg

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

George: Um, excuse me, have you see a guy with like a horse face, big teeth, and a, and a pointed nose?

Clerk: ... flared nostrils?

George: Yeah.

----

Kramer: Hey, did that guy show up?

Clerk: The guy with the... horse face... and the big teeth...

Kramer: No, the guy with the big head and the flared nostrils.

Clerk: Haven't seen him. There was a short guy with glasses... Looked like Humpty-Dumpty with a melon hat. But he left.

---

George: I went in with a pretty woman? You know, kinda short, big wall o' hair, face like a frying pan?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Old photo of Laurie Anderson (1976):

http://www.cynthiamacadams.com/images/laurie_152.jpg

I dunno about you, but that's pretty definition of "moon-faced" to me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

That's weird, the other pictures upthread don't even look like the same person.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

You are right! That photo from '76 is super duper square. I just can't figure out how she turned into Bicep Woman, who looks so fine of feature. Aging again, I guess?

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Hanging out with Lou Reed for too long?

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.cynthiamacadams.com/images/laurie_2_154.jpg http://www.actustar.com/photos/riccichristina.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

schwing:
http://www.discogs.com/image/A-131697-1128177334.jpeg

― milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.cynthiamacadams.com/images/laurie_2_154.jpg http://www.actustar.com/photos/riccichristina.jpg http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e66/LimitedLiabilityGirl/Laurel_Head.jpg

YEAH, OKAY, FINE!

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:29 (seventeen years ago) link

long-faced women (cf. Sarah Jessica Parker)

arrrgh. perfect body, but the face demands a bridle.

/meow

― Lauren (lauren), Friday, 8 December 2006 00:49 (seventeen years ago) link

haha sjp is cute/ugly - boooya!

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 8 December 2006 00:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I've become curious as to what I thought was "cute" so have gleaned these pictures from personals websites and offer them here as a glimpse into my anonymous psyche. This is what I think is "cute." And yes, I'm aware that all these women have the same expression on their faces. I'm only attracted to women with that expression.
http://static.flickr.com/139/317313457_6244f74309.jpg?v=0
http://static.flickr.com/137/317312429_25ae48eaa0.jpg?v=0
http://static.flickr.com/140/317312427_7d25f1872e.jpg?v=0

― Logged Outt (Logged Outt), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

So you like elves, then. With no lips. Glad we cleared that up.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

the first one looks kind of like stacey slater.

― Lauren (lauren), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.brandybuck.com/amber/images/neopets/dark_crystal.jpg

― Abbott (Abbott), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

wow, i have a huge crush on the laurie anderson of 30 years ago.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I am pretty much a moon-face-only kinda dude, that old LA photo looks creepily like (and kinda reignites) my first high-school crush :(

What became of Best Buy ipod girl?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...

curtis' new facebook profile pic might be the cutest thing ever. curtis, you have to post it here, and prepare to have everyone go 'awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!' atcha.

― Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Monday, 12 February 2007 00:19 (seventeen years ago) link

crepe

― esoj@w3rk (esoj@w3rk), Monday, 12 February 2007 03:45 (seventeen years ago) link

OK Louis I had no issue with you really but yeah come on thats just weird now.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 12 February 2007 03:48 (seventeen years ago) link

;_;

I'm being entirely innocent here. If you see the picture you'll see what I mean (I only found it when having a routine glance at recently updated friends)...

― Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Monday, 12 February 2007 11:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Real life Pepe le Pew!
http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/images/img_0503.jpg

― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh my god, Madchen.

― Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

― false cat (sleep), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

dying!

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, that's so cute!

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

skunk rape is never cute when you're experiencing it

― latebloomer (clonefeed), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Puppy rape is. WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE RAPING AMI ETC

― Johnney B's got a system (stigoftdumpilx), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Never has kitten rape been so adorable.

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

someone plz to embed the "AW MWAH MWAH MWAH" kissy-whatever dialogue effect

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i love how its little feet are splayed helplessly in opposite directions.

/crepey

― emsk ( emsk ), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 01:44 (seventeen years ago) link

the disgusted look on the kitten's face is the opposite of cute.

― La Monte Jr. (LaMonte Jr.), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 01:49 (seventeen years ago) link

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