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hi. how was everyone's weekend?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link

hi otto!

i was woken up by the phone this morning, which was a good thing, because i was having a creepy dream about cannibalism, probably inspired by listening to fast food nation on audiobook and watching a travel show in which they ate all sorts of curious meats. interestingly, sheep's testicles are less disgusting than american hamburger is, as described in the book i'm reading.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link

i am now wondering how one makes the transition from awake to fully conscious, and i have no idea.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Hi. I'm hung over today.

― dan m, Tuesday, 15 August 2006 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Huh, this is weird.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 15 August 2006 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Should I be able to log in? 'Cause I don't seem to be able to.

― dan m, Tuesday, 15 August 2006 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think that this ILX knows who we are.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 15 August 2006 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link

i didn't have any problem, though it's annoying to have to wait for the password email since hotmail sucks.

oh, i had to create a new account, since this isn't real ilx.

xp yeah.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I figured as much.

― dan m, Tuesday, 15 August 2006 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 15 August 2006 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link

a couple days by the ocean have me questioning if i have truly made my peace with chicago. so things are back in flux for me. how was everyone else's weekend?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought it was funny that when I deleted everything in my spam folder, the google link/ad on top was for a spam + pasta recipe.

Oops, I messed up my login here by registering with the fake e-mail address.

― JordanC, Tuesday, 15 August 2006 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I think everyone gets that link - I got one for Ginger Spam Salad, which sounded abysmal.

(sorry for the overseas intrusion, Chicago-ites, there aren't enough other threads for me to read yet!)

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link

My weekend: Sleeping, cleaning, laundering, beer drinking, tour guiding, car agonizing.

― dan m, Tuesday, 15 August 2006 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

hi ailsa!

my weekend included napping and project runway. and david attenborough.

when you change your email address, they change your password and send it to the real email, so then you have to reset your pwd again.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Testing testing. hello hello.

― Sarah, Tuesday, 15 August 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Heard bumping from a car at Clark and Wacker just now: "The Humpty Dance." Awesome.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 15 August 2006 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh hi kids! I've missed you.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

The Humpty Dance was the last song played at the (surprisingly hip) wedding that my band over the weekend.

― JordanC, Tuesday, 15 August 2006 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Not that we played it, I mean, it was on an iPod after we were done.

Although Erik did bust a Fat Boys rap to give everyone's chops a break.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link

So I just emailed these people about their CL ad:

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/muc/194189852.html

Mistake or no? Time will tell.

― danno martinez, Tuesday, 15 August 2006 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link

led by a dope bass line

i'd be very wary of that adjective if i were you dan.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Sounds fun. Here's to hoping they aren't untalented assholes.

xpost, ha

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Every word I say should be a hip hop quotable.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link

so.... do I post here or back on the HOT's on the real ILX?

― jesse k, Wednesday, 16 August 2006 02:33 (eighteen years ago) link

yawn

― dan m, Thursday, 17 August 2006 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

this place is kinda funny as a bizarro-ilx. it feels like a facade.

― jaymc, Thursday, 17 August 2006 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I know. Or the kids' table or something.

― dan m, Thursday, 17 August 2006 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

That's what I like about it.

― M White, Thursday, 17 August 2006 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyone here?

― jaymc, Monday, 28 August 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Just me.

Why didn't I go to Chicago this year? I should have!

― I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Monday, 28 August 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

You totally should have! I'm not likely to be in Mississippi any time soon. :(

― jaymc, Monday, 28 August 2006 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link

hahaha, if you were to ever say you were thinking about it, I'd try to talk you out of it.

Mid to late October is a possibility, but I'm trying to save $$ for the big Frank's APA meetup next year. (We've narrowed it down to Netherlands or Belgium.)

― I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Monday, 28 August 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Here I am.

― jesse, Thursday, 31 August 2006 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Hi. I'm bored.

I see Rebirth is playing in Chicago this Sunday (3:30 at the Chicago Jazz Festival). I recommend GOING.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 31 August 2006 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't understand. why can't we have real ilx?

― jesse, Thursday, 31 August 2006 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

You can't handle real ILX.

http://www.beckerfilms.com/JackNicholson.gif

― jaymc, Thursday, 31 August 2006 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

http://newyorkmetro.com/guides/fallpreview/2006/movies/movies060828_198.jpg

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 31 August 2006 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

What a lovable old coot!

― jaymc, Thursday, 31 August 2006 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Jack, who’s always thought his erotic appeal is underrated, first asked for sex scenes. “These kind of monsters, they don’t usually have a sex life onscreen, so I wanted to bring that to the part.” He chuckles. “I pushed that side pretty good. He’s a mad, bad nut job, so he’s evil sexually too. Fuck ’em, kill ’em, you know … At the moment, it’s a matter of discussion how far we went, as a matter of fact,” he says proudly, noting that Scorsese’s currently debating whether to edit down his brutal lovemaking.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 31 August 2006 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Hi Chicagofags! I was just checking this thread for shits and giggles and saw the Jack Nicholson pictures. A preview before BEERFEST was for some big-timey vaguely cop/crime-drama that starred Jack Nicholson, Matt Damon, Leonardo DiCaprio, Alec Baldwin, etc etc, lots of BIG NAME GUYS. And then BEERFEST came on and we larffed. And got drunk.

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 31 August 2006 20:00 (eighteen years ago) link

That Nicholson quote is terrifying. It sounds like he's trying to turn the character into Frank Booth:

http://adulecine.ovh.org/cinema/images/blue_velvet01.jpg

― jaymc, Thursday, 31 August 2006 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Hi Nick -- yeah, I think that's the movie that the bit Jordan quoted is about. It's called The Departed.

― jaymc, Thursday, 31 August 2006 20:09 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm here.

i can't handle the chicago threads on the real ILX.

i miss chicago like mad, you guys.

― grady, Thursday, 31 August 2006 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I just filled out the questionnaire for my high-school reunion. YES.

Plan for tonight:

1. Little Miss Sunshine at the Davis Theater
2. Brighton MA at Schubas
3. Hang out with potential new guitarist (!) at Schubas after the show

― jaymc, Thursday, 31 August 2006 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link

There's a band called Brighton MA? Huh.

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonster), Thursday, 31 August 2006 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Chicago! Specifically Eric!

Let's go see this play: http://www.congosquaretheatre.org/richard.asp

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 September 2006 13:18 (eighteen years ago) link

There's a band called Brighton MA? Huh.

Yup. Named after the lead singer's hometown. I didn't make it to the show, though. I was hungry after seeing the movie, so I had dinner instead. (Movie, btw, was just okaaaay. There were some funny moments, but I sometimes resist movies that try to endear me to the characters by ramming down my throat how adorably quirky everyone is.)

― jaymc, Friday, 1 September 2006 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Jenny, that play looks very interesting.

I had the most wonderful bottle of cabernet last night (well, one glass of it). I am coming to understand that there's nothing wrong with a screw cap. It feels weird for a while, but then you taste the wine, and you realize that it's not automatically Mad Dog just because it has a screw cap.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Screw caps are making a comeback due to cork shortages.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 September 2006 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't remember the name of this one... Nuages, or Numan, or something with an N and a U. Anyway, it's on sale at the store at Foster and Clark. And it really is good.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link

GUYS POST ON THIS THREAD

― jaymc, Friday, 1 September 2006 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Hi John.

― danno martinez, Friday, 1 September 2006 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Hi. I think I'm gonna stay in tonight, because I've gone out every night this week (all for band-related endeavors) and I like the idea of watching a DVD with a bottle of wine or a couple pumpkin beers, ya feel me?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I feel ya, dawg. I've done nothing but sit in and do laundry and read HTML books all week, so I'm itchin' to get out and blow some money.

Also, wine=good, pumpkin beer=not so much.

― danno martinez, Friday, 1 September 2006 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Sir, believe you are mistaken.

Although it may be too warm yet for pumpkin beer. It's not as good if you don't need a jacket to go outside.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link

The Blue Moon pumpkin beer is disgusting. I forget what I picked up. It was from Whole Foods.

I don't need a jacket to go outside, but I am wearing a long-sleeved shirt for the first time since May.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I know, I know, I just don't like fruity-flavored beer. Hops, hops and more hops!

― danno martinez, Friday, 1 September 2006 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Pumpkin is hardly "fruity-flavored." It's more of a bittersweet memory.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Sounds kind of emo.

I just figured everything out, and I am going to Alaska in a few weeks!

― danno martinez, Friday, 1 September 2006 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Whoa. How come? Is 3r1c@ involved somehow?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link

lol at EmoBeer.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Pumpkin beer is

a bittersweet memory
a favorite sweater
an autumn sonata
freshly cut wood and the first time you light the fireplace
a crisp breeze
a train in the distance

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost: Possibly. I need to see if she's got to go up there for her tribal board meetings around then. But she's moved out to Washington state now 'cause she got a job teaching at Evergreen State College.

Two of my best friends in the world (one since I was like 3 years old) live in Homer, AK and I'll be going primarily to visit them.

― danno martinez, Friday, 1 September 2006 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Everybody loves the sound of a train in the distance
Everybody thinks its true

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link

But she's moved out to Washington state now 'cause she got a job teaching at Evergreen State College.

Ah, that's cool.

IIRC, Evergreen State's two most famous alums are both cartoonists: Matt Groening and Lynda Barry.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh weird, Charles Burns went there, too.

Okay, and I'm forgetting Kathleen Hanna, Corin Tucker, Carrie Brownstein, Calvin Johnson, and Kim Thayil.

Not to mention Michael Richards.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Yup. Also: most of Sleater-Kinney, Phil Elverum, Kim Thayil, and Issac Brock I think...

xpost Exactly! It's a cool place.

― danno martinez, Friday, 1 September 2006 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I visited there once when I was 14. The campus was very woody.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

here i am

― jesse, Friday, 1 September 2006 16:01 (eighteen years ago) link

hi jesse.

alaska has always seemed like a really great place to visit, i've known a couple of people from there but never managed to get there.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Friday, 1 September 2006 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link

FAUX-LX YOU

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I just e-mailed someone, and she responded via text message. Weird.

I don't want to work, I just want to play online all day. I mean, more than usual.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Re: AK... Yeah, that's about the sense I get from it too.

Best quote while setting this up, from my friend Seth: "You can shower at my work, so you don't have to pay for it." Because there's generally not indoor plumbing in the houses there, there are bath houses (not that kind of bath house... or maybe it is, I don't know how they roll there) for the whole town to use.

― danno martinez, Friday, 1 September 2006 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Fascinating information:

The Frat Boy billed for 62.25 hours of work this summer. For the entire summer. This means that this law firm paid him $109/hour for his legal work.

...

Ha ha Dan's going to an Alaskan bath house.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 September 2006 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link

No, see, I can shower at the Homer Soil and Water Conservation District because my friend works there, and it will be free! Free hot water!

Of course, I'll probably still go, if only for the handjobs.

― danno martinez, Friday, 1 September 2006 16:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Atta boy.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 September 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

The Frat Boy billed for 62.25 hours of work this summer.

I don't understand. Surely he was around more than that, or he wouldn't be bothering people so much.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I will have worked that much this week when it's over.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Law offices bill clients for their time. So for each project we work on, we have to turn in a time ticket that lists the number of hours we workedon, who the client was, and what we were doing. We're in the office and getting paid hourly for roughly 40 hours a week, give or take some time for getting in late, leaving early, or working overtime.

So, while the Frat Boy was in the office 40 hours a week give or take all summer, he only worked 62.25 hours of that.

And 6.5 of those hours were "reading the handbook" and I don't even know what the fuck that means. But it's not billable client stuff.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 September 2006 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

What is Frat Boy's first name? Is it Josh? He sounds like a Josh.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Mark

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 September 2006 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Both the Frat Boy and the Orthodox Jew were named Mark. We collectively referred to them as "The Marks" as in, "It's just me and the Marks tomorrow, so I know I'm going to be busy."

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 September 2006 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I would have guessed "Cliff." But hearing that it's actually Mark is kind of funny too. He's a Mark-ass CHUMP.

― danno martinez, Friday, 1 September 2006 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Speaking of which, do you think the spike in the popularity of the name Brendan in roughly 1997-2000 had anything to do with the career of Brendan Fraser? Its peak was in 1999 (#96), which is when The Mummy came out.

xpost CLIFF? I've only met one person our age named Cliff, and he was a stoner-lookin' doofus who used to intern for PFM.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

And 6.5 of those hours were "reading the handbook" and I don't even know what the fuck that means. But it's not billable client stuff.

Oh, man. If I had to justify every hour I was here... whew.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, it was more a humor-oriented guess than a real guess. If I'd have been serious I probably would have gone for someting like Dave or Bob or maybe some serious yuppie shit like "Tanner."

― danno martinez, Friday, 1 September 2006 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I once had a friend named Mark. By the time the dust had settled, he wasn't really anybody's friend anymore. He had my ex-girlfriend on his arm, though.

I remember doing mushrooms with him and some other people on Eeyore's B-day in Austin on year, and we were all off our heads pretty good, and some guy walked up to Mark and said, "You're the devil. I can see it in your eyes." Which fucked with all of us, but not as bad as when some totally different guy later walked up to Mark and said THE EXACT SAME THING. We kinda chalked it up to being some elaborate prank by people setting out to fuck with tripping people, or maybe just the kind of weird coincidence that only happens on hallucinogens. But as it turns out, he actually WAS the devil.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 17:50 (eighteen years ago) link

http://djbrecord.free.fr/inxs007.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Every single one of us.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

posted elsewhere, but deserving of some exposure here:


Sites around the Big Easy Crescent


http://static.flickr.com/61/230517398_ddae868949.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/63/229830150_8867ff7707_o.jpg

― jesse, Friday, 1 September 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

That's a good story, except the part about him being a fuck.

I go ahead and try to register and the password-sender dealy fucks up, and now I can't post as danno martinez because I can't fucking log in. OH WELL

― d. martinez, Friday, 1 September 2006 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link

That's some wench on a wrench.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 September 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Wrenching, isn't it?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

She's totally fucking that thing.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 September 2006 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I was watching Ham On The Street just the other day, and he went to the laundromat to cook food in a dryer. I wish I could remember what he was cooking.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

it's shocking is what it is. that's not in the f.q. or anything, that's just in some residential area. that's too much, i say. it's one thing to be suggestive by having her on a wrench, but that adjustable arm pointing toward her cooch.....

― jesse, Friday, 1 September 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

What the hell is Ham On The Street?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, I think it's cute and innocent. Like a little girl sliding down the bannister.

xpost A show on Food Network.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

A girl sliding down the bannister only to impale her vag on a giant tool.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 September 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh. I thought it was your name for a vagrant in your neighborhood or something.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Soft "g"

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 September 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link

"Vag-rant": The poor woman's Vagina Monologues

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

lolz

― d. martinez, Friday, 1 September 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Tee hee.

Having seen the Vagina Monologues, I would prefer Vag-rant, I'm pretty sure.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 September 2006 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

>>I know, dingleberry. but we all know it's not the same there.

Why is it not the same here? Because we don't have a vast archive of the last 6 years of ILX, which you've been around for like 10% of?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Jesse believes in God now and thinks that Jesus died for your sins.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 September 2006 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Jesus died for somebody's sins but not Jesse's.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link

hi. i'm crazy.

― otto midnight at the desert oasis, Friday, 1 September 2006 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Holy shit.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 September 2006 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link

hahaha

There's worse kinds of crazy to be, but yeah, that's pretty crazy.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I get to go home at 3! Labor Day is like Christmas around here.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 September 2006 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link

this fucking office is dead. people come, there's flurry of meetings and donuts for a few days, and then everyone leaves. and my favorite union dude is in amsterdam.

― jesse, Friday, 1 September 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

This is my office. The girl by the window is AMEDB. The girl by the door was typing on her laptop like that for a good 10 minutes.


http://static.flickr.com/87/229830141_93970a97a8_o.jpg

― jesse, Friday, 1 September 2006 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link

A Flickr user identifies that nice lady as Mona Monkeywrench.

Jesse, when are you coming back?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Here she is again!

http://static.flickr.com/3/5072984_a02efac87c_m.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I was just browsing an old ILX thread .... FOR WORK.

More articles on pop music, please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link

John Mark Karr:

http://www.edgeboston.com/images/uploads/news_14586.jpg

Matthew Herbert:

http://static.pitchforkmedia.com/images/image/21157.x-news-herbert.gif?

Something isn't right.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link

There must be something wrong.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

My mother sent us these bowls as a house warming gift and I love them. They make me think of Sarah and I don't know if that's because they are somewhat mid-century reminiscent or because I think that getting this excited over bowls seems like a Sarah thing to do. But either way, new bowls!

ihttp://images.crateandbarrel.com/is/image/CrateandBarrel/6PcBowlSetF06?$lg$

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 September 2006 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link

SON OF A BITCH

http://images.crateandbarrel.com/is/image/CrateandBarrel/6PcBowlSetF06?$lg$

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 September 2006 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link

top ten things i miss about chicago now that i live in hawaii:

1) trains
2) lakeshore drive
3) victory's banner
4) tuesdays at red-i
5) version/select media
6) reckless/grammaphone/dave's in one afternoon
7) dog beach.
8) inexpensive middle eastern food
9) architecture (seriously. honolulu is on par with sarejevo in the dept.)
10) critical mass

― grady (grady), Friday, 1 September 2006 20:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Waaaah, I live in Hawaii. ;-)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 20:50 (eighteen years ago) link

i love it here.... but i'm just getting kind of misty knowing its september 1st and there wont be an autumn coming.

― grady (grady), Friday, 1 September 2006 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Remind what you're doing there...?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 September 2006 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link

living and working. indefinatley.

working for the same company i was working for in chicago, basically doing av for meetings and conventions at a hotel.

― grady (grady), Friday, 1 September 2006 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I had a hard time adjusting to a different season schedule when I lived in the south. It made me crazy when it was November and still warm.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 September 2006 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Jeez Louise. 2 1/2 hour meetings -- dud.

I have Nino Rota movie music in my iPod. I will sooth myself with this while I sit here and work some more. I will try not to think about how I get no Labor Day weekend at all. Not even one day, much less three.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link

What? Why?

I would not like to live in Hawaii. If I lived in Hawaii you would hear me say "Wah" for sure. Of course I have never been, but I've never conditioned my hair with dog poop either, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like that. The difference being that while I would not enjoy even trying a dog poop creme rinse, I think I might enjoy a visit to Hawaii.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 September 2006 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Southern Decadence. This year's theme (as in every other single year, and every night on the corner of Bourbon and St. Ann): Pectorials on Parade.

http://www.southerndecadence.net/images/Picture_Page_Pictures/2004-104.jpg

http://www.southerndecadence.net/images/Picture_Page_Pictures/2004-110.jpg

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 September 2006 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link

That 2nd picture is so fucking cute!

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 September 2006 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link

No weekend: because there's a big event next week (don't make me explain, plz), and marketing does everything at the last possible minute.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 September 2006 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Overtime?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 September 2006 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Do I have to register for this poop board?

― Jeff, Friday, 1 September 2006 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

guess not. I'm bored.

― Jeff, Friday, 1 September 2006 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.crispinglover.com/whatisittralerwebfour.mov

― Jeff., Friday, 1 September 2006 23:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Jeff, I used Futura as the font for my name and address on my business cards. Do you approve?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 September 2006 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link

That won't open. Is that Crispin Glover on Letterman? Cuz if so, buddy, that's good TV.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 September 2006 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link

No, it's the trailer for his new film. Which everyone should go with me to see.

http://musicboxtheatre.com/crispinglover.html

― Jeff, Friday, 1 September 2006 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know, I'd have to see the card.

― Jeff, Friday, 1 September 2006 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link

OK.

Here's Crispin Glover on Letterman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALapHYNSmoA

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 September 2006 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link

But really, for most business cards, I like the classic serif typefaces.

― Jeff, Friday, 1 September 2006 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link

i met a guy at a party last weekend who moved here from chicago. his wife loves it here and he wouldn't stop whining about how much he missed chicago. all i could think was "please god do not let me turn into this guy."

― grady (grady), Friday, 1 September 2006 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I wanted sans serif, but a more serious one.

Which serif fonts do you like?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 September 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

The card will have this logo

ihttp://iwj.org/images/logo.gif

Plus my name, address, phone, email, website. (No title since I'm not too sure what my title is. Maybe Jenny could help me with that. When cornered on a sign-up sheet I wrote "Acting Director")

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 September 2006 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link

shitfucker

http://iwj.org/images/logo.gif

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 September 2006 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link

http://iwj.org/images/logo.gif

Jexxe Kexr
35oo C@n@l Str33t
N3w 0rleans, LA 7oll9

504-555-1212 www.www.org jkkk@www.org

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 September 2006 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.linotype.com/2209/seriffonts.html?PHPSESSID=33409b89a2

this is a good list. I've always loved Caslon. I've probably used Garamond more though.

― Jeff, Friday, 1 September 2006 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't work with that logo.

― Jeff, Friday, 1 September 2006 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link

It's the only logo I got. It's a little hippyish though.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 2 September 2006 00:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Jeff, I used Futura as the font for my name and address on my business cards. Do you approve?

Why teh heck do you ask Jeff and not me?

And yes, thanks, I do approve. I used Futura earlier today, actually. The building we're promoting is an old art deco number, so I felt it appropriate. I went with a demi-bold, spaced at about +50%. Niiice.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 2 September 2006 00:24 (eighteen years ago) link

But really, for most business cards, I like the classic serif typefaces.

OTM, really. But I like Futura.

Jeff's right, though, about the logo being very, very bad. With that, I don't think it matters what font you use, it's going to look like a card with a horror of a logo on it.

(But sans-serif is probably better.)

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 2 September 2006 00:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Srsly, it looks like you're advertising a pre-school for wood carving.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 2 September 2006 00:29 (eighteen years ago) link

What you need for a logo is this, yo:

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/VAS/0000-4234-5~Soviet-Communist-Cold-War-Propaganda-Posters.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 2 September 2006 00:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I've always loved Caslon.

Conveniently, a really nice cut of it comes with Adobe CS!

I've probably used Garamond more though.

Yawn. You and everybody else, since Apple used it in their logo.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 2 September 2006 00:32 (eighteen years ago) link

(My own company also uses it in their logo. It's bolded and italicized and unrecognizable and unspeakable.)

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 2 September 2006 00:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Serif:
Bodoni
Minion
Zapf Humanist

Sans:
Optima
Zurich (Extra Black if you've got it. The best!)

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Saturday, 2 September 2006 07:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, I like Skia too.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Saturday, 2 September 2006 07:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't do Optima anymore, just because it's the Planned Parenthood font, so it makes me think of condoms. I like "Extra Black" sans fonts. Frutiger, Univers, and the classic Futura.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 2 September 2006 12:31 (eighteen years ago) link

This is on my corkboard at work. Which is where I am, BTW.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/xtrabold.gif

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 2 September 2006 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Solar Anus rocks.

― Jeff, Saturday, 2 September 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Kenan, I asked Jeff because he's a big font geek. I didn't know you were too, but I am 100% certain of it now.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 2 September 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

You'll find a lot of these quasi-primitive, aboriginal culturey woodcuts if you spend much time in worker justice offices.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 2 September 2006 20:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Happy labor day, comrades!

I went to Jewel without a bra on this morning. It's the dawning of a new area of grocery shopping while inappropriately dressed.

Man alive, Jeff cleaned all the cat hair out of his keyboard yesterday and it types like a dream now. That's kind of disgusting.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Monday, 4 September 2006 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey are we here or on the other ILX? I'm lost and a little bit confused.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Monday, 4 September 2006 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
yay

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link

AAAHHHHhhhhh. That's more like it.

― Laurel, Monday, 16 October 2006 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link

What? What's more like it? ILX IS STILL DOWN!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 13:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, but at least we can bitch about it here!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link

If ILX being down had got you down, calm yourself with the soothing sounds of Robbie Dupree: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qyzlWRbCtU

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Monday, 16 October 2006 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Greetings patriots. Armando Grouse, at your service, offering a full apology to Laurel for not being able to hang with her this weekend. I was busy dancing my feet off and losing my digital camera. :(((

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 16 October 2006 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not happy about that last bit at all.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 16 October 2006 13:18 (eighteen years ago) link

so,um, how was everyone's weekend?

i kinda went to a party friday. went to ronny's saturday night, dan martin was there as was a pig carcass. i tore pig ribs off said carcass with my bare hands and had the most savagely satisfying pork for pizza ever. went to a 4 o'clock bar around 2:30 and walked into a bachelorette party. the 4:00 bar was still serving me at 4:30, i left around 5, saw a rat run across chicago avenue. ate bacon, eggs and pancakes at a diner at chicago and western around 5:30 with polish day laborers and 2 drunk girls. one was named april and she was very chatty. that night i had a dream about santa claus. sunday i slept in, watched football, then burned 3 albums to put on my itunes.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 13:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I do find myself oddly soothed by the sounds of Robbie Dupree, though.

and had the most savagely satisfying pork for pizza ever.
well done!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 16 October 2006 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Armando: no denying it would have been good to see you, but I didn't really expect to (so the disappointment was bearable). xoxoxo Hoorah for dancing! I was in no shape to get up on Saturday, anyway, seeing as how I fell asleep on the C train and went to the end of the line and back, getting home around 5am. The funny thing is that it wasn't really that bad!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 13:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Widget of the day

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I got your message about falling asleep on the train, but I figured that you were in good enough shape to write it which must mean that you're safe at home and alright. I am really hoping to be back to Brooklyn as soon as I can so I will see you then FO SHO. I am just now recovering from Saturday night. I was not only UP but OUT until 5:30AM. We went to O'C's after the wedding and that may or may not be where I lost the camera. I definitely helped buy new shoes for the Smirnoff children this weekend.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 16 October 2006 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Awww, I like O'Cs and I would have been happy to show up on Saturday...I stayed in only because Noize events were taking place in Wburg and I didn't feel like treking up there. OH WELL. Will yr friends be checking for the camera? O'Cs is quite close to me.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link

What is OC's?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 13:40 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm hoping against hope it's a bar dedicated to carrol o'connor.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, I went there yesterday before we went to the airport and there was nothing. We looked around with the flashlight but nothing came up. The only hope now is the car service, but YEAH RIGHT. So I just have to take my lumps and accept that I stupidly lost my camera.

xp - O'Connor's. A bar where the groom used to bartend.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 16 October 2006 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link

went to a 4 o'clock bar around 2:30

Wait, this wasn't the Underbar was it?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

no, wound up at the continental.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link

O RLY?

http://brainylady.blogspot.com/continental.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.planet99.com/pix/16653_1.jpg

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to have band practice right near there.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I have been to Feed. It is good.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha, I just misplaced a pencil behind my ear for, like, 15 whole minutes. I even went into the supply closet to get a new one.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Chicago is so weird -- there's a grassy empty field right next to that building?? Would never happen here, the lot would either be built up or else desolate and filthy.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

i love feed, if it had been open at 2:30 in the morning you can bet your ass i would've been in there with a quarter chicken and some mac and cheese in front of me.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link

laurel, there are a lot of empty lots around there. that's pretty much the northern edges of where chicago burned down during the king riots of '68 and for the most part the lots have been vacant ever since. it's kind of weird around california and lake because every other lot is vacant then there'll be this stunning louis sullivan building or something like the honeymoon apartments that frank lloyd wright designed.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, monday morning.

This morning haze hasn't burned off yet, even after two cups of coffee. I don't knw what else to do. Maybe I should eat something? Or will that just make me sleepy? Only one way to find out...

I think the grassy emptiness might be part of the rail yard...?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Nevermind. Not rail yard. Just empty lot.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

and it is pretty desolate and filthy, you just can't see it with the weeds growing in the lot. that's a great area though, "up and coming" as they say. the clipper is two blocks away, humboldt pie across the way, humboldt park right there, ronny's 12 blocks away...

xpost- no, there used to be a building there, i think the foundation is still there.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

It's a weird area. I once had to walk past there because the North Side pound is just a block or two south on California, and it did feel pretty desolate.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link

At least I hear the gang activity has calmed down a lot on the west side.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, the rest of the Continental building looks pretty dark and sad, then there's the contrast of what looks like a nice, evenly green space next door! Plus in NYC the buildings would hardly ever be ONLY one or two stories tall. Funny -- I've never been to the outlying parts of Chicago, and now that I only know Bklyn it's super weird to go to other cities. Baltimore was equally odd, although I'm aware that statistically Brooklyn is probably the anomaly.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link

But see, you're seeing an anomaly for the city of Chicago. It's this weird dead zone. Most of Chicago is a lot like Brooklyn, actually.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Laurel, are you still coming to Chicago?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link

It's this weird dead zone.

yeah, that's kind of an understatement. i almost moved over there almost 2 years ago, there was a place north of chicago on fairfield. landlord was teh hott and she lived upstairs. awesome place but i found a better deal on augusta later that week.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Kenan, I don't know. My autumn weekends are suddenly filled up with either other things or my boss being out (so I can't overlap). Looks like pre- or post-Thanksgiving is the soonest I could manage. Will people besides the Jammermans still be in town?

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

i won't be in town the first full week of november.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, first wkend of Nov is when my parents are coming HERE, so that week was out. Or did you mean December, Kevin?

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll be around until Christmas.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link

i will be out of town the 6th through the 10th.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:04 (eighteen years ago) link

november 6-10.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:04 (eighteen years ago) link

What is up, dudes. This weekend I:

--Partied in Oshkosh on Friday night, really overdid and had to play a parade + two sets on Saturday morning with a crushing hangover.

--Made a bacon veggieburger

--Saw horrible, horrible hip-hop band from Mpls and had to leave

--Watched the first half of the Battlestar Metallica mini-series. You're all right it is good stuff.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I won't be around on Thanksgiving DAY, but I'll be here for the rest of that weekend.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Also:

--Jesse, sorry for dropping out of chat again last night, my computer crashed as usual.

--Digd0wn will definitely be playing weekends at the Gr33n M1ll just before Xmas AND Fat Tuesday.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm thinking maybe Nov 22-26 or something like that. Maybe I can get a jump on the airfare before Thanksgiving strikes.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I did not give a full weekend report.

On Friday I went to see the Fake Fixxiones rock the house at Alliance. On Saturday I spent the afternoon writing. I also watched Tristam Shandy (clever but not particularly entertaining) and then steeled myself to drive out to the suburbs for the BIG REUNION. Which was: hmmm, kind of fun, but also really weird and somewhat disappointing, too, because for all the people who were there that I was like "OMG that guy" there were twice as many who I wished were there. There were maybe 40-50 overall out of a graduating class of 300-something? But whatever: I got drunk on gin-and-tonics and heard this gaggle of girls say in disbelief, as I was heading outside, "John smokes?" (My goodie-goodie rep hasn't left me.) Then yesterday Kr and I did laundry and then went to see Nina Nastasia (boring, although I think EZ likes her?) and Jose Gonzalez (totally captivating) at the Lakeshore Theater. THE END.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm thinking maybe Nov 22-26

you can have grilled cheese and salsa sandwiches with me for thanksgiving if you're here. or you can go to jenny & jeff's and have a real thanksgiving but whatever.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

i'll be around until after christmas!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I sort of meant to go see Michael Showalter and Michael Ian Black live last night, but I forgot.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm thinking Jenny and Jeff's, if they'll have me.

Also, for some reason, I'm thinking that good ship and true was a bone to be chewed When the gales of November came early. And that it's hard to hold a candle in the cold November rain.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Weirdest thing for me re former classmates: how many of them live in the suburbs still. I mean, I guess I understand if they are a) teachers who want to live close to their school district, or b) if they have kids that they want to put in suburban schools (one girl I had a crush on in 10th grade has already popped out four) -- but I was talking to this guy Eugene who was in my physics class senior year, and he's totally still single and everything, but he was like, "Yeah, I lived in Chicago for a year, at Irving Park and Ashland, but I didn't like it -- too crowded." He runs his own company now, and his office was next to the Holiday Inn the reunion was held at. I just can't imagine why you would choose to live in the suburbs, though. Maybe if going to ethnic restaurants and rock shows and art movies isn't important to you.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link

keeee-nan, you better take care
if i find you been creeping round my back stairs.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Although I'm realizing now that it's precisely these suburbanites who were most likely to go to a high-school reunion in the suburbs.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

John, I find that's true a lot. People who grew up in the burbs tend to think of people who move to the city as some kind of insane mavericks. There's always a bit of incredulousness for some reason. "You live in the city? Really?" As if to say, "God! Who could live in all that filth with all those black people?!"

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link

i've never found that to be true kenan.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I guess the thing is, in high school you don't realize your lifestyles and ambitions are SO different from your classmates, when you hang out with them on a daily basis. And maybe they weren't, necessarily, at the time. I didn't necessarily know what I wanted to be doing right after college, and at 17 I think I assumed I would eventually have a typical family-in-the-suburbs life -- after a few years, I determined that this wasn't exactly a priority.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Forget black people, at my childhood church someone said to me, "You live in, like actually IN New York City? It must be very worldly there, lots of temptation." I think I might actually have answered, "That's exactly why I moved there."

...in high school you don't realize your lifestyles and ambitions are SO different from your classmates...

No, I totally did.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

i've never found that to be true kenan.

Yeah, I don't know that the suburbanites are incredulous that I'm living in the city as much as I'm incredulous that they're not. But most people are pretty boring.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I love how "worldly" means "corrupt" to Chistians, but to me seems more synonymous with "urbane."

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

No, I totally did.

I figured someone would say something like this. I dunno. I certainly had desires to be worldly and sophisticated that probably weren't matched by the majority of my peers, but I also really loved the community that high school created, and I liked knowing who everyone was and what they were all about. I mean, the roots of the whole "jaymc's spreadsheet" meme can probably be traced back to when I ran for National Honor Society secretary, and my campaign speech was basically like, "I'll be good at keeping track of our members, because I already know all of your birthdays." (In fact, I surprised a few people the other night by saying things like "...so Jermaine, you'll be 28 in a couple days, won't you?") My friend Adam and I made up bizarre animal-related nicknames for teachers, kids in our classes, people involved in theatre with us -- and I made crossword puzzles where all the answers were inside jokes about such people and wrote a song about some weirdo in my gym class. We were stupidly competitive about our class rank and gossiped endlessly. So I mean, I had a lot of affection for this community, and after a while, you think of yourself as one with it. That's why I didn't even think twice about going to the reunion.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

when i was a sophmore in high school we had to write one of those stupid "where do you see yourself in 10 years" essays for english class. i said i'd be living in chicago and that i couldn't wait to get out of north backwater, massachusetts. i was off by a year or two but it's odd how it worked out.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I had a desire to get the hell out of a small town and move someplace where I wouldn't feel like the cheese who stands alone. That's about it, the rest was pretty much negotiable. I could have ended up as an ivory-tower, never-graduating sort except that I dislike being a student, would rather feel like a productive part of something. I know we've discussed that balance before.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

except that I dislike being a student, would rather feel like a productive part of something.

That's an interesting dichotomy. I supposedly contribute to the world through my job, my band, etc., but don't feel any happier for it than when I was doing my own work and receiving individual praise for it and getting a sense of accomplishment that collaborative endeavors can't match.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Awesome!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HpovwbPGEoo

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't watch the video, but it makes me want a reuben.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:01 (eighteen years ago) link

You sillyhead. Vegetarians can't have reubens.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link

i think some of you may join me in saying "what the holy fuck? no bell's??!?!?!".

if anyone wants to start making weekly carpool trips to k-zoo let me know.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I knew I was setting that up badly when I wrote it, but was trying to get the post up. No, we've covered this ground before: that I felt like school was a series of arbitrary tasks performed for the satisfaction of someone else (professor), toward a meaningless end (grades and/or pat on the head from one's "elders and betters") and enduring pressure from parents who were paying for my privilege. None of which endeared it to me.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

There's something going on where I don't like feedback, even praise, from anyone except those I'm actually close to. I'd rather do work that is self-evidently either operative or not, that's measured less subjectively. There's more to it, but it's not very interesting.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh man, when I was at Small Bar on Saturday the bartender was talking about the Bell's thing.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Whoa, no Bell's? I'm not nearly as over-the-moon about Bell's as some of my fellow Kzoo alums, but I was certainly happy it was available in Chicago. That blows.

2. satisfaction of someone else (professor), toward a meaningless end (grades and/or pat on the head from one's "elders and betters")

Ideally, the satisfaction should be shared by you and the professor, especially in classes you like. And I didn't see grades and pats on the head as meaningless, since they boosted my self-esteem and motivated me to continue doing good work. I would love to feel valued and inspired by my "elders and betters," to have the same kind of mentor I had in Gail Gr1ff1n at this time in my life.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I could not have been any more different than John in HS. I railed against joining anything or being a part of anything except being friends with certain people. For me HS was something to be endured and I made a big show of "seeing through" the supposed importance of anything that went on there.

― Jesse, Monday, 16 October 2006 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

ditto. see: getting kicked off flag team for aggressively not-smiling.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I made a big show of "seeing through" the supposed importance of anything that went on there

Oh, I did some of that, too -- I mean, I frequently talked back to teachers that I thought were full of shit (and a lot of them were), but I also bought into the whole "these are the days you'll remember" thing. I was nostalgic for high school the day I graduated.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link

railed against joining anything or being a part of anything except being friends with certain people

no one joined anything at our high school. our senior class advisor was this ancient social studies teacher who told us he'd never seen a more apathetic group in his life. we didn't even care enough about each to other to form cliques.

For me HS was something to be endured

same here, it was a prelude to a big nebulous something else. like a four year taxi down a runway. oh, and of course high school also means infidelity and bad lunches but that goes without saying, doesn't it?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link

infidelity? to what? i had no one to whom i needed to be fidel.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link

or fiel.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Telling, perhaps: I skipped driver's ed on the day of a quiz not to go out and smoke pot behind the school or anything like that but to go to another section of my favorite English teacher's class instead.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

i've never been unfaithful in that sense so i can't answer but yeah, i remember a whoooooooooooooolllle lot of high school drama. kinda funny, a decade and a half later.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

john, i'm far from a bully but i just want to slap the shit out of you when i read that.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

John is an exception, but when I hear people say that they loved HS and it was the best time of their lives I think something is wrong with them and they are lesser human beings. HS was pinnacle of misery. Or maybe the nadir. I don't know.

I did join band though. That was good. Until they made me march, then I dropped out. Not because I was too uppity to march, but because I was seriously bad at turning corners.

― jesse, Monday, 16 October 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

OH! expost to kevin, but I agree. John could bring out the bully in Mother Theresa.

― jesse, Monday, 16 October 2006 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link

John, I don't like to acknowledge that anyone can raise my self-esteem except me, or a relatively small number of people I don't mind admitting to the "trusted" category. I was TOTALLY unprepared, at school or college ages, to give and/or admit that I gave a fuck whether anyone approved. I know, it's a little dumb...but it's a big deal for me, as an adult, to let even silly kinds of praise make me happy! I'm still a stubborn pain in the ass, though.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

HS Pros:
having a mostly good rep with teachers -- this meant I could get away with things
quiz bowl -- mad time off school on their dime
AP courses -- didn't have to see the mouth-breathing idiots in my class as much

HS Cons:
everyone knew my parents -- couldn't get away with everything
mouth-breathing idiots not entirely escapeable
most of my friends being older and graduating 1-2 years before me
growing sense of doom & depression in 12th grade due to having small friend base (silver lining - got even more into punk rock)

There are parts I remember fondly, there are parts I'd rather forget. On the whole, I did it, and now it's over. I'm glad I never went to graduation because there are a lot of people I feel good about saying "fuck off" to and never seeing again.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, please note: for lunch I am eating home-made jambalaya with Zatarain's spicy rice, extra veg, shrimp, and chicken Andouille sausages. AWESOME.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know if it was the best time of my life -- it was so long ago that it's hard to even consider it part of my life -- but I did enjoy it.

The driver's ed situation in more detail: There was supposed to be a two-hour Homecoming assembly at the end of the day, but at about noon it was cancelled because the school had received a threat of gang violence, and everyone was told that we'd remain in our 6th period class for the rest of the day instead. Since 6th period for me was driver's ed, I was like fuck this. (To be fair, I didn't realize that we were going to have a quiz, which I then received a zero on and had to scramble to get my grade back up to an A by the end of the semester, or else I'd probably have reconsidered.) I asked myself where I'd rather be during 6th period, and I thought, Well, EJ has another section of AP English right now. I showed up, explained myself, and she was like, "All right, JC, as long as you know what you're getting yourself into," and the class -- many of whom I was friends with (as opposed to the mouth-breathing sophomores in driver's ed) spent the rest of the day talking about current events and stuff.

(Ha, xpost: Dan and I both used the word "mouth-breathing.")

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I should have mentioned that AP courses kept me away from the mouth-breathing teachers, too.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

(Also, when I found out I got the zero on the quiz, I wrote a long, eloquent letter to the principal detailing why I should be given a second chance. He said no, but he commended my writing and made a joke about how I should be his secretary. He was kind of a douche.)

I should have mentioned that AP courses kept me away from the mouth-breathing teachers, too.

Word.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

We didn't have any AP classes, or any weighted classes, or anything more accelerated than standard college prep, so I took the hardest classes I could and then did about as much work as I was interested in. It mostly evened out.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean, the decision I had was: Driver's Ed with dumb-as-a-brick good ol' boy John Cornelius, or English with a teacher to whom I loaned my copy of Raymond Carver's Where I'm Calling From?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link

My Canadian friend told me that they had a word for people like John in HS: keeners.

People who delight in not only knowing the answer, but in the subsequent delight in their teacher's faces when they present it so eloquently, as they always do.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link

When I say I made a big show of seeing through the importance of HS, I mean that I did OK academically and was pretty well-regarded by the teachers. I was known for having real talent and potential as a writer by all the English teachers. That was fine and I valued that.

What I hated was all the teenagers around me. I had 2 or 3 friends throughout my high school career, and even they didn't last. I didn't even take part in lunch, but instead sat in the library writing, stealing books and cutting pages out of the encylopedia. (I still have a color wheel from the World Book.)

Looking back this is probably bad because I was actually suffering from a pretty serious depression. Also religion was ruining my life because I would have probably joined some kind of club but I wasn't allowed to go to Saturday meetings.

xpost-- I had a good rep with the teachers too. I got to use the faculty bathroom.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link

(xpost) Oh good God, I hope I wasn't as annoying as that. People liked and respected me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm sure you weren't an offensive keener.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I failed my driver's ed course with a big giant EFF. This was because I was a freshman (in MT you could get your learner's permit at 14.5 years old) and this was when I had friends. We all sat at the same table and I paid 0 attention.

The reason I had friends when I was a freshman was that I got the attention of the hippest senior whose name is T0r D@ahl (cool name even). He pimped me to the school full of assholes. Then he graduated and my 1 real friend moved away and I was a loser again. Goodbye yellow brick road;adlksfjf;askldjf.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I'm going to call today a sick day.

I'll called in scared, "I'm afraid I can't make it today."

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

(Who would I even call in TO? Eh?)

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

(God?)

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

dan, i'm trying to remember, do you recall my friend Bill (or perhaps someone else) playing with the snout from that hog on saturday? it's amazing how something that a couple hours earlier would have been a complete affront to all my sensibilities turned out to be the greatest thing ever after 5 hours of miller time.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Interesting. I didn't think about it before but I was also pimped by the coolest kid in middle school (Boone J3nsen, also a cool name). The others weren't having it though. I was actively and cruelly hated by the cool girls. The guys kind of just ignored me.

I had REALLY big hair in middle school. Like Kevin Ry5.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost Oh yeah, I remember. To me, hilarious, no matter what my state of inebriation (by that point, admittedly quite high).

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, for part of middle school.

The rest of the time I looked like this.

Would you not go NAMBLA on that?

http://static.flickr.com/52/136277970_1b35557155.jpg

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks for the huge pink carnation and baby's breath boutonierre! Who plans these things anyway?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I had good friends in high school and I enjoyed band, and my one "AP" class. It wasn't an official AP thing, but it was a senior class where we just sat in a circle and did this whole philosophy survey and discussed shit. It was better than 80% of my college classes. Other than that though, high school suuuuucked.

I am not one of those people who is forever wishing they could go back to school. I'm happy working and I don't think I ever want to be a student again.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG You look like Ralph Macchio!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 16 October 2006 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Hahah, I almost said the same, then wondered if that was like "one cute Mexican kid looks much like another" RUH ROH.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Jesse you look so ready to be bar mitzvahed.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Ralph Macchio is Mexican?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost No kidding. The comments under that include Sarah saying "Charles in Charge?" and Jenny saying "Chachi!"

So now I look like a Jew?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Would you not go NAMBLA on that?

Yes, but that's not news.

Another reason I disliked driver's ed was because I was the youngest kid in my grade and so I had to take it as a junior instead of a sophomore. I felt like an idiot.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Macchio is a Handsomely featured, Italian-American actor with boyish looks that initially...

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Trivia about RM:
Daughter, Julia, born in 1992, son, Daniel, in 1996.

Is a big fan of songwriter/singer Bruce Springsteen.

Born in the same Long Island town as superstar Mariah Carey.

Once saved a baby porpoise that was beached on the shores of Malibu. When reporters tried to cover the story, he asked to remain anonymous.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

The dude who writes the Television Without Pity recap for Lost didn't get why Sawyer called the kid in the cage "Chachi," and I think it was less "I don't think he looks like Ralph Macchio" and more "I have no idea what that name could possibly signify." HI YOU WRITE FOR A POP CULTURE WEBSITE!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Noo, actually RM is Italian-American (XP)...but I vaguely remember watching Karate Kid and thinking that the character was Mexican or Chicano -- to Kid Me, that would have explained the class/inequity thing.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

How come no one uses the word Chicano anymore?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

put that gun to my temple
put that gun to my heart
make me walk off the plank chicha
all always in to the dark

A I D S H I V
i cannot wait to die
can’t you tell
can’t you tell
can’t you tell


never finish my degree chachi
never play with the Pogues
throw my head out the window and
cement my feet into the dark

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Aaaaay IIIII Deeeee Eeeessss..........

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know, I didn't find out "Chicano" meant until a year or so ago, when I read this book we publish and a Mexican-American colleague told me it was a classic of Chicano literature.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

It just means Mexican-American, right?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link

i use chachi all the time, just as the striped-shirt set uses "chief".

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link

"chachee" is my housemate's video-game/AIM handle.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Another reason I disliked driver's ed was because I was the youngest kid in my grade and so I had to take it as a junior instead of a sophomore. I felt like an idiot.

Same here, dawg. See also: turning 21.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

For some reason I think it specifically means the first generation born in America to Mexican parents, but don't quote me on that.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost Also, when Sawyer said it in the season premiere of Lost and I cracked the fuck up.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I've been reading up on the word Chicano and the meaning/use is fluid. It seems that now it has a left wing politcal connotation. But before it was just Mex-American.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Interestingly the word Chicano is the root of the name "Chicago." People in the Mid-West can't pronounce the letter N so they said Chicago.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I think for a long time I didn't realize it was so specific to Mexican-Americans. I knew it was different from "Latino" but was never exactly sure how.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost WTF

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link

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― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Every journey starts with a single step, even if we're talking about a journey from the door to a king-sized mattress with rubber sheets. It's easy to stumble on what to say when you're composing that rousing first email to the OutPersonals member who inspired warm fuzzies in your short-and-curlies, but keep a few tips in mind.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

More importantly, say what inspired you to write in the first place. Even if that's only the image of their majestic and awe-inspiring Groin Serpent[...]

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Keep your first email a little on the short side.... Save the bit about being able to tie your tallywacker into a Winsor Knot for later.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Jesse...

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Rubber sheets....

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

... and now Jerome!

― morris day (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I guess I'll go to work now and move some furniture and maybe buy some office furniture.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I think rubber sheets are probably a dud unless you put something else over them. I really don't want to have to be squeegied out of bed.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I guess you're not into watersports?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Not as such, no. But even floating in a WHOLE SWIMMING POOL of water, one occasionally sticks to the inner tube and then OW.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

rubber sheets + baby oil = non-stick fun for all. and probably torn ligaments.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Remember full-motion waterbeds? Where the whole mattress was just this big rubber bubble?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Baby oil is just one of the many, many substances of this world that I don't EVER need to get in my hair.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost Anyway, my mom had one of those, and me and my HS girlfriend would strip all the sheets off of it and do dirty things to each other. It was a lesson in rhythm as much as anything.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I know, I know... tmi.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I wish I had had sex in HS. Or rather I wish I had had a BF in HS. The couple of random experiences I had were much-appreciated, but too few and far-between. And not very comfortable (standing).

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Baby oil is bad for condoms.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Vaseline is death to condoms.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't have a BF in HS either, Jesse. OR in college. Late start, what with the whole CHRISTIAN INSANITY thing.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, the "being a really unpleasant adolescent".

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Baby oil is just one of the many, many substances of this world that I don't EVER need to get in my hair.

i know someone who's getting a shower cap for christmas...

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I sort of had a girlfriend. Kind of like being hungry and being served a photograph of food.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost And a golden shower.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link

i had way more girls who were friends than girlfriends. it was kind of like being hungry and given a 7 course meal sealed in a lucite box.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I did the whole "friends who are girls" thing, too. Now I know I was just doing that classic thing where you think they'll appreciate your sensitivity and fall madly in love with you if you pretend you are beyond lust. Or something. Really all it boils down to is being a huge pussy.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Most of my friends in high school were girls, too. I had small crushes on a couple of them, but mostly I just enjoyed their company. Although the other night at the reunion, I revealed to like four separate people that my best friend from back then (female) was really a friend with benefits.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, "what's Stacie up to?" was like the question I was asked most often. I had to be like, "I dunno! I called her mom last year to see if I could re-establish contact and she said she'd pass along the message, but girl clearly doesn't want to be friends with me anymore, cuz I never heard from her."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I was just doing that classic thing where you think they'll appreciate your sensitivity and fall madly in love with you if you pretend you are beyond lust.

uhm, no, not what i was doing. i was upfront about wanting to give them the rail but they totally did not take me seriously. and now that i think about it, between the mohawk and the stick figurishness and the general pain in the assiness i can't blame them.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

(xpost) I mean, I'm not COMPLETELY surprised, because things ended on sort of a weird note -- basically, we continued to be "involved" with each other long after it made sense to be, and so maybe she suspects that I haven't moved beyond those impulses -- but it's been over 5 years since I last talked to her, and I know I'm a lot more mature than I was back then, so I wish she'd give me the benefit of the doubt.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link

When I was in HS I had a COLLEGE GIRLFRIEND.

Really all it boils down to is being a huge pussy.

So horribly OTM.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I am totally leaving early today. No boss, general blah vibe in the office, sleepy, grey, meh. And I have shit to do.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, all of us PWNED by Jordan!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I am totally leaving early today. No boss, general blah vibe in the office, sleepy, grey, meh. And I have shit to do.

I wish I could do this sometimes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't do it too often, but I think this is a special occasion. I'm going apartment hunting. No one will deny me that.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.cadenhead.org/workbench/gems/katherine-harris-holds-possum.jpg

Katherine Harris and I have something in common.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Part of what I mean is that I'm not a salaried employee and so I'm at the mercy of an electronic timesheet system. If I ever leave early, I just have to make up the time before the end of the week.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

you have impressive tits? xp

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I had girlfriends in highschool, somehow. But I probably could've had more if I wasn't a BIG PUSSY.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know what she saw in doofy high school me, but after my senior year of HS we both went to college at Madison for a year and then she broke up with me to date Mexican dudes.

xpost

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link

John, I am a salaried employee, and I am also at the mercy of an electronic timesheet system.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link

i had one boyfriend in hs, and otherwise just pined over guys who didn't notice me. it might have helped if i hadn't spent most of the time in hs hiding behind my long hair.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Scrolling to the end to say two things:

1. Nov. 22 is my birthday. Come here then.

2. I want to have Thanksgiving at our house. I want you all to come over, and your mothers, too. But, there is not enough room at our house for everyone to come over - there is barely room for six or seven. SO... I will be happy to help plan/come cook at someone else's house where there is more room. Otherwise, I think we'd be better off going to Simon's all day like we did two years ago.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

i'll go if we can go to simon's. is it open all day?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link

(xp) I forgot you're a JFK-assassination baby.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Our first T-day in Chicago, Jesse, Jeff, Sayjal and I went to the parade and wandered into Simon's at about 11 AM where we proceeded to get utterly BLOTTO until we made our way to Andee's for dinner at around 7 or 8, with some stranger from the bar that I invited to come along with us who was apparantly a real asshole but I barely remember anything after 3 pm or so and thus hold myself blameless.

Yes. I was born the day they shot JFK. The way you look at me sucks me right down the sidewalk. Somebody please tell this machine I'm not a machine.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link

My presence might be required in Jersey for the actual holiday but I could come to Chicago the week after...tho if I can get out of the NJ family thing I totally, totally will.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Speaking of high school, I'm halfway though Freaks and Geeks now, and I have to say, as the series continues, it makes me more and more uncomfortable. This is one of the reasons I love it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I "was" Nick Andropolous from that show, sans stupidity (I'd like to think) and shit home life.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link

i was upfront about wanting to give them the rail

Perhaps it was your phrasing.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh and I was into punk, not prog.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Perhaps it was your phrasing.

i didn't speak colloquially when pitching woo.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link

There's an essay I love that is, at least in part, about the word "woo".

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:53 (eighteen years ago) link

You weren't really Nick at all, were you?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link

TS: pitching woo v. spitting game

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Laurel, I hope it's better than Nicholson Baker's 50-page meditation on the word "lumber."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, but the drumming, and the recreational drug use, and the tallness, and the general awkwardness with women (don't want to give too many spoilers but there is an episode that hit sort of close to home...)

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I was into prog. :( I haven't see F&G yet, though.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I may have just seen that episode. Unless there's another one.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe I will watch it after I see all of Battlestar Galactica and then perhaps the Wire (girl that I am hanging with just had to watch a whole season of the Wire for class!!).

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, it's better than just about anything. It was in Best American Essays of 2003, ed by Anne Fadiman who as far as I'm concerned is a manifestation of the divine on this earth. I have not, however, found a listing online yet.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Who's the author of the essay?

I think of all the F&G characters, I relate the most to Lindsay.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Mostly because of my striking resemblance to Linda Cardellini.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah I was going to say, because you're always wearing that fatigue jacket.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, the essay is by Brian Doyle, and it's called "Yes".

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Speaking of Battlestar Galactica...

Jeff and I have watched the first four episodes of season two and sent back another movie unwatched so we could get more MORE MORE BSG discs. I loved the pilot, was ready to give up on the show by the time the Tom Zarek episode rolled around, and then got all caught up in it again by the time we got to the season one finale.

There's some pretty lofty shit happening. I hope they can carry it through.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Really? I was never even close to giving up, somehow it got past all my critical faculties and I watched it as if there were no other options than the way things were done...like it was fact! I R SUCKER.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I had my first BSG experience the other night.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link


QUICK JESSE MAKE THAT INTO A GAY THING!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I refuse to watch BATTLENERD GEEKLACTICA

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought I'd had my fill of space operas, but I think I'm hooked.

I never saw the original BSG, but I want to now that I see Dirk Benedict was in it! I love that dude. Tarantino should hipster him up in his next movie.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Tom Zarek's character needed a little refining, I thought. And I got sick of the pro-military rah rah totally uncritical of your superior officers crap. I'm still a little sick of that, actually, but...

I can't say anymore!

Oh, those handful of episodes that were dripping with dad issues were a little sickening, too. Basically, as soon as they started focusing on the CYLONS and all their attendant evil I was back into.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought I'd had my fill of space operas

hahahahahahaha

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

You are in no position to mock someone for their chosen brand of nerdery, mister.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link

What's so funny? I mean, I ain't gonna lie, I've seen a lot of sci-fi tv shows.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

He's laughing because there's no such thing as "too many" space operas. It's an infinite genre and I say THANK GOODNESS.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link

See, here's the thing: a lot of my friends who were considered nerds in junior high school have openly embraced their nerdhood as adults. But whenever one of them says something like, "Isn't it funny how so many of us who graduated from K were total dorks growing up, and we still kind of are?" -- then I'm resistant. Because yeah, I was probably considered a nerd at one point -- but why? Because I got good grades and I wasn't good at sports? So what? I mean, sure, that gets you mocked when you're in 7th grade, but I don't know why that should define me as a nerd now. Or they say something like, "Well, you know, we read The New Yorker and listen to NPR" -- and I'm like, okay, well you have a pretty broad definition of "nerd." I plead guilty for wanting, at various points in my life, to be an intellectual/elitist/cultural snob, but I never read a fucking Piers Anthony paperback.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost I'm laughing at the concept of there being so many space operas that one could conceivably have his fill of them.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Or they say, "We're soooooo not cool enough to be in a rock band" and I'm like, "Well, that attitude is exactly why our band isn't cool."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Because yeah, I was probably considered a nerd at one point -- but why? Because I got good grades and I wasn't good at sports

something tells me that wasn't it. I'm not sure what it is, I'm having trouble putting my finger on it...


*cough*
skipped driver's ed on the day of a quiz not to go out and smoke pot behind the school or anything like that but to go to another section of my favorite English teacher's class instead.
*cough*

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Ohh nooo, I was considered a nerd because I never took my nose out of the book, and the book was usually sci-fi. Also, apart from some rather more "cerebral" authors like Iain Banks and the PKD renaissance, run-of-the-genre science fiction & fantasy STILL comes in for mostly ridicule, as evidenced by John's last sentence above. I read a lot of Piers Anthony.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, oh John. I mean, it's not the part of my life that I'm most proud of, but there was Star Trek and TNG as a kid, a little DS9, Farscape and Babylon 5 with Maddie, etc. etc., and I enjoyed them all.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

(xpost) See, Otto, but that was about wanting to hang out with EJ Bronkema. When I used to stay after school and talk with her in the English office, it was about, I dunno, Woody Allen and Nabokov -- not Tolkien and Deep Space Nine.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah...still not cool.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyway, I'm happy that you guys can enjoy that stuff, I just don't want any of it pinned on me. And my distaste for it means that I have total license to make fun of you for it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

WOODY ALLEN ISN'T COOL???

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Good thing, because Woody Allen is TOTALLY less pathetic than Tolkien.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

not Tolkien and Deep Space Nine

Dude give us a LITTLE credit here. Everynerd knows that's the worst Star Trek evolution ever.

xpost: Yeah, remember how you used to talk about Lost...

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

or wait, was that Nick? Fuck.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Nerdy, intellectual, Jewish pedophile = really not that cool, yo

Everynerd knows that's the worst Star Trek evolution ever.

But better than Voyager and Enterprise

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait, what about Lost? Lost is awesome. There are no spaceships or evil wizards in Lost.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, Lost is totally geeky sci-fi that it's okay to like.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Jewish intellectuals are very cool, in my book. Maybe not the neo-cons, but most of the others.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Jordan, you forgot "massively neurotic".

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Re Woody Allen, not re "Lost"!!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh yeah. Anyway, obviously I've playing devil's advocate to some degree, but there's cool and then there's cool.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:50 (eighteen years ago) link

wait wait wait... WOODY ALLEN?!?!?? prophetic.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link

And compared to sex and drugs and rock n' roll, Woody Allen is not very cool. Neither are the Jews, really.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link

(j/k about the Jews, uh, kinda)

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

What about Gene Simmons?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Eh, the Hasidim are usually cool. Their stories are K-CLASSIC, although the gender division in modern life leaves something to be desired.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

No way. I was specifically thinking that there are obv. cool Jews out there, but that the Hasidim are WAY LAME.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

But but but WHY?

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean, my own personal & fam issues to thread, but I basically hate interacting with them and "cool" is absolutely the last word that comes to mind.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Ooohh, I vaguely recall some mention of that but I don't know yr story. Oh well. The book Tales of the Hasidim is cool, anyway.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyway, I think we've been over this before, but what I like about Lost is that it a) takes place in the present-day, with recognizable human characters, and b) the sci-fi element has so far been a vague sense of creepiness and mystery. It's almost more like a suspense/horror movie in that we're identifying with people like us who have been thrown into an unusual situation, and we want to get to the bottom of it all. We're not starting out on an alien planet and just accepting that a race of green humanoids with yo-yos for eyes exist in this world.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe they're cooler to a non-Jew, but I get a really patronizing vibe off them. And they cut themselves off physically and culturally from the rest of the world...how can someone be cool if they don't understand/don't care about/are afraid of modern culture? Stick to your Torah and clapping on the downbeats and lack of birth control dudes, I'll be in the real world.

/over the top rant

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry. Basically my mom has become extremely Orthodox so I'm forced to deal with that community sometimes, and I'm not exactly what they expect from her son. At all. And they can be dicks about it.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know what's wrong with me today. I'm full of hate, apparently.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm not talking about Orthodox, more like, you know, Elliott Gould.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Jordan, your hateful rant is so far making people not notice that I just defended horror movies.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link

(I like horror movies, though. Rosemary's Baby is one of my favorite movies ever. I just don't have the will to sit through a lot of bad ones.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

you know who's awesome is that robbie gould fella

― deep space nine, Monday, 16 October 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Totally understood, Jordan. But the cutting themselves off thing is interesting. In the first place, the Hasidim came to America not to take part in the American dream or to assimilate, but to continue living exactly as they had in Europe except for being safe from pogrom/Holocaust. Second, their rebbes refused to come here until AFTER WWII, so that generation had very different priorities from the next gen, which is the group currently "in power" in most places. Third, in a sense the Hasidim who immigrated to America could have taken part in a culture of privilege, being a white European group, but they specifically chose not to benefit from that privilege...a restraint which could, if investigated constructively, make them less estranged from the minority groups they usually live near.

Also, I don't know what their problem is w/r/t you -- I know someone whose daughter is an out lesbian (not practicing Orthodox, obv) but her father is very scholarly, respected, visible among his peers.

Also there are definitely some very lousy things about modern Hasidic life, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH is their attitude/code of conduct for women.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha.

I think at this point the basic sci-fi setting is so entrenched that it's not so different a starting point than here & now. Meaning, saying "okay, it's the future and there are space ships and humans living on different worlds" isn't a big deal, it's "okay, it's the future and there are space ships AND here's the hook". Although if those tropes really bother you than that's something else (I forget, have you read any Delany?).

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I don't know why it bothers me. Most of what I like, narrative-wise, still tends to be contemporary American realism. Who's Delany?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Samuel Delany

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link

'Cause a lot of his work has trad sci-fi/fantasy tropes + excellent writing, race and gender issues, dude sex, etc.

(a lot of his writing also lacks those tropes, but that's what he came out of)

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link

later chicago.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 16 October 2006 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I hate decisions. Should I take the cheaper place that I don't like as much, or the more expensive place that I looove?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Take whichever is more convenient?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 16 October 2006 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link

how much more expensive is it?

― bohren un der club of gear, Monday, 16 October 2006 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

what neighborhoods?

ps- hi chicago.

― grady (grady), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link

DETAILS!!!

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Have you gone through the credit process?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:37 (eighteen years ago) link

the pricier one sounds really great.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm dying for details. i am afraid to look for a new place and kenan will be my guinea pig.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link

ok, here's the story on the place that I like. $775 a month, which is more than I wanted to pay but certainly doable. One bedroom. Big kitchen. Nice living room with a southern exposure and a view of a grand old oak tree. Back porch (!). Pretty hardwood floors. Laundry downstairs. Old building, but well maintained. There's a marble facade out front that says "The Rose." Located here, which is pretty unbeatable. Two blocks from the Berwyn el stop, two blocks from Jewel, three blocks from the lake, seven blocks from Juulia.

I think I should go for it.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know where Berwyn or Jewel are, but the rest sounds PERFECT. Shit. I want.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't remember if it's thisplace or the other one that has the old iron bathtub with the legs and everything. I love that shit.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link

qhR v

ahem...

what about the other one?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know where Berwyn or Jewel are

Well, ifyou look at the map, Berwyn in one block south, and the train stop is just on the east side of Broadway. The grocery is between the el stop and Brodaway.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link

That's a pretty great location. 1 block from 2 different L stops, CLOSE to the Jewel, beautiful street.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link

The other one is at Devon and Wayne, much smaller, has a view of an alley and a brick wayy, and you have to walk through the closet to get to the bathroom. Also significantly dirtier.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link

brick wall

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link

happiness trumps potential savings any day of the week, right? i took a place for $275 more per month than another i was thinking about because it was much nicer and in a slightly better area. it was well worth it.

if you go with the other place, you will inevitably regret it completely.

― bohren un der club of gear, Monday, 16 October 2006 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link

what price?

If it was like $300 a month less or something that might make a difference.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:49 (eighteen years ago) link

That's a pretty great location.

I know. It would be nice for a change to have a place I want to stay at for more than one lease. It ain't dirt cheap or anything, but I think I can grow into it. Buy furniture and bookshelves, the whole bit.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Devon Ave. is too far from Chicago.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:50 (eighteen years ago) link

what price?

$600, which, considering, feels like a rip-off.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Devon Ave. is too far from Chicago.

Heh. But think of the Indian food!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

$175 difference? see that's only $2100 per year

― bohren un der club of gear, Monday, 16 October 2006 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link

that's a great hood. can you negotiate?

― grady (grady), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm seriously on the side of the nicer one.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I can see what they can do about the deposit. Because I have rotten credit, so the standard is to charge twice rent for deposit. If I can talk them down from that, that would be premium.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Only possible downside: it's *right* next to the train tracks. Like, I would have a view of them out the front and back door both, at eye level. But I think you'd get used to that pretty quick, right?

Jake: How often does the train go by?
Elwood: So often that you won't even notice it.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I know people who live next to the El and it's OK. But I would be concerned too. But it sounds great. The apartment, not the sound of the train.

Oh god, I never want to move again until I own my own place or am dead.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link

But I would love to be in Jenny and Jeff's place. God how I would love that.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link

They're in your hood, bro. Faggots everywhere you turn.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/apa/220591788.html

I am considering the trade off of size vs. location and amenities.

xpost-- that's not MY hood. The density of fags is actually a con for me. I like where I am now in that regard...fag-friendly, but not choked with them.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Their place is great because of the Jewel next door. That is first and foremost. After that the other numerous pluses are great but they pale in comparison.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm so proud of Kenny. He's sat on top of the computer monitor for a solid hour without crapping on the screen.

$695 for an apartment in Lincoln Park? That's going to be mad small.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Kenan: The Lincoln Park apartment is not for you.


jesse: ok
why


Kenan: going to be about 400 sq ft, for one thing


jesse: yeh
i know


Kenan: and you'll hate the hood


jesse: no


Kenan: real yuppie


jesse: yeh


Kenan: lotsa breeders and babies all over the place
overpriced restaurants
nothing that's *not* overpriced
celebrities live in that neighborhood
i can't stand that part of town, except that it's very pretty
but it is, as Holden Caulfield would say, very phony


jesse: you killed the dream
;__;


Kenan: you can pay that much and live in a real chicago neighborhood and have a bigger place and be much happier, all at the same time

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Back me up here, people.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:43 (eighteen years ago) link

i wasn't really considering that place. but this place http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/apa/220020496.html seems nice.

anyway, first i need a job.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Not bad, but why are you determined to move to a smaller, more expensive apartment?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

hey n00bz, real ILX is back

― bohren un der club of gear, Monday, 16 October 2006 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link

no shit! thanks.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link

hi chicago.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 30 October 2006 00:38 (eighteen years ago) link

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― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 30 October 2006 00:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Ignore that. I messed something up.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 30 October 2006 00:56 (eighteen years ago) link

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/IMG_4619.jpghttp://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/IMG_4624.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 30 October 2006 00:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Weird. There's nothing wrong with my HTML, but this post just won't post.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 30 October 2006 00:58 (eighteen years ago) link

oh, sorry: sandbox only allows two images per post.

― stet (stet), Monday, 30 October 2006 01:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Happy payday, once-a-monthers!

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, but payday was yesterday. Today is paythemanday.

What happens when a debit card expires? Should my bank have sent me another one already?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't get paid until Friday. Which means I packed a lunch again. But my pay schedule works out great this month: I get paid on the third, then the 17th, and then again on December 1, which means that December rent can come out of *that* check, and November is all freed up to buy housewares.

I have decided to buy that jute rug after all. The big green rug will match my bedroom much better than my living room. I want black, simple, almost severe.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link

The bank should automatically send you one - you should call them if they haven't, Dan.

Happy Samhain/All Saints Day/All Hallows' Day, everybody.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait, Samhain was yesterday. Fucking pagans.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Fucking Catholics.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Fucking Glen Danzig.

ihttp://static.flickr.com/11/16495942_bdbf15ec49_m.jpg

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/11/16495942_bdbf15ec49_m.jpg

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

HERRO!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

guttentag!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

oh, hey jenny, guess what i have in a crockpot waiting for me when i get home from work today?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Ohioans, tell me about Barberton.

xpost - a human head?

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

no, i'll give you a hint. it has chicken, chicken broth, 2 medium sweet potatoes, 1 onion, some spices, and is on low heat until i get home.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I looked at a cheap, warm, spacious apartment last night but I'm not taking it because it was already furnished and decorated with the other tenants' stuff and they would never make space for me (except in my own room). Grrr.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link

cheap, warm, and spacious. only pick two.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

and hey jenny, now that i've had some coffee and have thought about it, should i have cooked the chicken before putting it in the soup?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I dreamed I went to see Xiu Xiu. I think it was at the Metro. The whole band came out, and then Jamie Stewart came out and howled, "THIS IS WHAT IT MEANS TO BE ME!" And then he took a shit on the stage. Then he left the stage, and the band followed him, and the show was over. As the crowd made its way out, there were many murmurs of how excellent the show was.

The end.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

NSNSNSNNSNSNSNS -- when do you play on Friday?? I seem to recall the number 7, as in PM, but is that doors only? When's yr set?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

lol @ xiu xiu as gg allin

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Ohioans, tell me about Barberton.
Barberton is a shitpit. It's not as bad as Youngstown but is still a craptastic place to live. My HS history teacher was named Chuck Buck and taked constantly about the Barberton Beautification Committee.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Ok, there are worse places on Earth, but it's not a place I want to settle down.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Or visit.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link

taked = talked

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

people's names be confusing me. hi armando.

http://www.gotoquiz.com/results/what_american_accent_do_you_have
i was primarily west, with midland and boston not too far behind. if midland means midwest, i've lived in all three areas.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Otto -- no, the chicken will cook over the time it's in the crock pot. That's the beauty. When it's done you should be able to shred it easily too, to avoid chunks.

Midland usually means midwest.

Hi Juuuuuuuuuuuuulia.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Nope, Kevin. You did the right thing putting the chicken in raw.

Just like Amanda said.

I figured Barberton would be a shitpit, but that's probably my bias against small towns in that general are of the country. It was the home of a big time solidarity union movement in the 1930s, didja know?

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, doesn't surprise me. Lotsa factories around there at that time. Not anymore though. My friend's sister lives right "downtown" and it's really cute for about 2.5 minutes, then the charm wears off and you realize that there's nothing there but a diner, a pharmacy and a photography studio with faded pictures of slutty high school girls from the early '90s in the window. Unless you're very happy with your family and have a rich homelife, that's not a place to live.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Similarly, AA started in Akron! Hey-o!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link


What American accent do you have? Your Result: The Inland North

You may think you speak "Standard English straight out of the dictionary" but when you step away from the Great Lakes you get asked annoying questions like "Are you from Wisconsin?" or "Are you from Chicago?" Chances are you call carbonated drinks "pop."

The Midland The Northeast Philadelphia The South The West Boston North Central

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmmm... According to that test, I have a good voice for TV or radio, it says. I'm midland first, then Philadelphia. Makes sense. I tried to modulate all of the strange southern Delaware pronunciations out of my speech (like "far" for fire and "boosh" for bush and long-O dog, although I still cling to some Delaware phrasings, like quarter of seven instead of quarter to seven and "get a bath" instead of "take a shower") but I still sometimes stress the "awwww" sounds in coffee, dog, pause, words like that.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

John, you got that because you insist on mispronouncing "horrible."

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

For the last time, the word has an O in it. Why would the vowel sound of "whore" be pronounced differently just because it starts with a "wh-" instead of an "h-"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

You guys.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 16:59 (eighteen years ago) link

What American accent do you have? Your Result: Boston

You definitely have a Boston accent, even if you think you don't. Of course, that doesn't mean you are from the Boston area, you may also be from New Hampshire or Maine.

The West The Midland North Central The Northeast Philadelphia The Inland North The South What American accent do you have?

did that work, i'm gonna guess no right away.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

which is odd because my accent, at this point, is vestigal at best.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

For the last time, the word has an O in it. Why would the vowel sound of "whore" be pronounced differently just because it starts with a "wh-" instead of an "h-"?

Lots of words with the same vowel/consonant pairings are pronounced different. It's the rich pageant of the English language, my man. I mean, it's cool. I'm still your friend even though you're totally wrong about this.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Give me examples.

Btw, I like that quiz because I felt super-confident about all the answers.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm with John on "horrible".

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link

You definitely have a Boston accent, even if you think you don't.

I think it's more that they make you think about how you would say things, rather than just say them, though.

xpost - flood/food

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link

MIDWEST SOLIDARITEE

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait, never mind. There are lots of examples. So wait: you think that "horrible" is a word that just has an unusual pronunciation, like "women"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

How do you pronounce "horrid"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm not orig from the midwest and i pronouce horrible that way (whore etc). so there.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Webster's lists both pronunciations, but mine (and Dan's and Julia's) is first.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Jenny's just doing the durrty south thing, right? "Huurrible"?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Harrible.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

It's the difference between a mid, back rounded vowel and an low unrounded one.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link

i was going to try to take that test again to see if i could get a different result, but i just can't pick any different answers, because the other answers feel so wrong.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Your result: TEH MIDLAND

"You have a Midland accent" is just another way of saying "you don't have an accent." You probably are from the Midland (Pennsylvania, southern Ohio, southern Indiana, southern Illinois, and Missouri) but then for all we know you could be from Florida or Charleston or one of those big southern cities like Atlanta or Dallas. You have a good voice for TV and radio.

I also felt very confident about my answers, reprazent.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I've seen the whole "Mary, marry, merry" thing before as an example of differences in pronunication -- but I can't figure out how you would pronounce any of those words differently from each other.

I want to have a good voice for TV and radio. :(

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

hawrible.

whoore.

and jenny, i guess it's because my accent is only at about 20% of it's strength from what it was 7 years ago that i forget i may still have one. when i saw my younger sister at a family event last month she told me she couldn't stand to listen to my accent (i think i was pronouncing my r's).

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I think, John, that I just like busting your chops about something so silly as how people from different regions of the country that have distinct regional accents pronounce a word.*

I don't know how I say horrid. As I sit here in the computer lab whispering "harrid... whore-id" to myself, they both sound right to me.

I got South second to midland if I said that "pin" and "pen" sound similar. The fact that I could go either way there is, I believe, entirely attributable to Jeff. Anecdotally, a WV cousin of mine thought my name was "Ginny" until we ten or eleven because he'd never seen my name written out and "Ginny" and "Jenny" sound the same coming from people with southern accents.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

*It's the asterisk to nowhere...

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link

That quiz is malarkey -- you can't know how you really pronounce things until you record yourself pronouncing them and use speech analyzer software to determine the height, length and roundness of vowels. Relying on people's perception of how they say things only gives you results about people's perceptions, not what they actually say. The quiz focuses almost entirely on vowels too, which is just one indicator of regional dialect.

Malarkey.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link

And I, in turn, enjoy getting overly defensive and self-righteous about something so silly.

Amanda -- malarkey, but accurate for me, at least. Since I have, after all, lived in Chicago almost all my life.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link

i had a football coach who used to chide us for our "huss-shit effit out thay-yah."

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Weirdly my dad says "hawrible" and it's always bothered me.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait, so you say "hahrrible" too??

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

No, I definitely say "whorrible".

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link

The Whorror would be a good band name?

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link

"huss-shit effit out thay-yah."

awesome. i miss those accents.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Kevin played football?

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

my best friend from back home went to UMaine and his senior year lived in a rented house north of orono (which is just north of bangor). his next door neighbor was this 70-something retired couple named herbie and barbara day, neither of whom had ever left the north woods in their lives. they spent their time sitting on their front porch getting sauced and speaking in the most impenetrable down east accents ever.

xpost- QB/WR/CB. i was actually much better on defense than offense.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Kevin, I can't even parse that.

I am in the black for vacation time for the first time since June! I have .26 days of vacation.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

So what's the difference between "whorrible" and "hawrible"? The first pronunciation in Webster's is "h®r-ə-bəl," and when I looked up what "®" was, it said it was like the "aw" in "law." The second pronunciation is "här-ə-bəl," and the "ä" is like the "o" in "mop" or the "a" in "mar." So I figured you either said "harrible" or "hawrible," and that "hawrible" pretty much = "whorrible."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

(As I suspected, ILX doesn't do O's with dots over them.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link

(Single dots, that is -- not diareses.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Kevin, I can't even parse that.

Quarterback, wide receiver, cornerback.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

So basically Webster's doesn't list "whorrible" as a pronunciation?

xpost, I meant his coach's accent

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh sorry -- it took me a while, too: "Horseshit effort out there."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link

So basically Webster's doesn't list "whorrible" as a pronunciation?

Yes, but I'm having trouble distinguishing between "whorrible" and "hawrible" myself.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link

HI DERE
http://www.umanitoba.ca/faculties/arts/linguistics/russell/138/sec5/vow-ipa.gif

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Or, if you prefer:

The vowel sounds of American English
http://www.ic.arizona.edu/~lsp/IPA/VowelChartLF.gif

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Aha.

"whorrible" = "or"

"hawrible" = "arrrrr"*

*pirate

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Because most times you encounter an O, it's going to be one of these three sounds:

bot
boat
bought

I'm suggesting (and this is what I think Webster's is doing) that the O in "bore" is not a unique sound -- it the "aw" of "bought" plus an R.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost Okay, Jordan, I was misunderstanding. The pirate sound is what all these East Coasters (Jenny, Jeff, Sarah, and Nick) say -- what I was previously writing as "hahrible" or "harrible."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Next time we hang out for a few beers, if I get buzzed enough I'll do the UP accent and BLOW YOUR MINDZ

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Right, so we're on the same page. That is what I do NOT say.

In Apocalypse Now, Brando says "the harrur", right?

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link

In keeping with Kevin's football coach quote, my hockey coach used to say things like "Ya gotta get da fuuck up dere on da wing and hit dem sissy faggots 'fore dey cross da line fer dachrissakes!"

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the first time I heard "harrible" and "harrur" was from my high-school drama teacher, who was from Pennsylvania.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link

All I know is I went to college with someone from Philly who said "ahrange juice" and called me "Law-rel". I rhyme horrible with oar. Or whore. But not "hoor".

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link

called me "Law-rel".

i'll just call you shirley.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Surely not.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

you'd prefer lavern perhaps?

or something without vowels maybe. lrl.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

How are "bot" and "bought" pronounced differently?

― nklshs (nklshs), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

boo-ought, i would guess.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i was saying "boo-ought."

― hans moleman (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Depends on how much you flatten out the "o" in bot, I think. In mid-Michigan, it's more or less already "baht", so there's slightly more O-ish-ness in "bought". As in "bough", not that anyone ever says bough anymore.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, Amanda's going to kill me, she keeps telling us we need to learn to use the alphabet indicators thingies, and I just described a sound as O-ish.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Sometimes it's what's called an "open o" as in the way that English people pronounce "bought", "caught", "ought" and BOT is pronounced either with an "ah" sound (represented by "a" in the bottom right of the "sounds of American English" diagram upthread. It's the difference between a sound that is tense (open o) and one that is lax ('ah').

The IPA can be used to describe any language, which is why it's handy when doing phonological transcriptions or interpreting phonological transcriptions of languages that we may or may not know. If you know the IPA and you see a transcription of a language you have no idea how to pronounce, it gives you everything you need to pronounce the word. It won't tell you what it means or how it's written (its orthography) but it will give you an idea of how to say it. You can also analyze patterns that way. It's also why it's futile to try to describe sounds as "flat" or "weak" or "wrong" or by using other vague/subjective adjectives. The IPA uses places and means of articulation to determine the differences between sounds.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry about that.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

FUCK!

So, today my old boss (who is way cool) and the two other guys I work directly with were going to go have lunch, bullshit, piss & moan, have a beer or two, etc. Well, today one of the higher-ups is in town, and co-opted our lunchtime. So, instead, we were going to lunch with my new boss, the higher-up, and a couple others. This option was slightly less appealing to me, but still, the prospect of a free lunch somewhere new was enticing.

So, I was sitting around waiting for a particularly nasty file to distill, and I heard people getting ready to go behind me. I figured they'd say "hey, let's go" when they were ready, and we'd go. Then I looked around and EVERYONE is gone. I got completely ditched! Now I don't have a clue what to do... I think I know where they went, but it's a ways away, I don't have my car, so I can't just go over there. What do I say when they get back? I'm fucking pissed about this.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Open O is also slightly higher than 'ah'. This is also visible on the diagram, which represents the shape of your mouth. Roughly.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link

That sucks, Dan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Does anyone have a cellphone? Could you call them and say WHY YOU DITCH ME?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I assume they do, but I don't know any of their digits.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait a second -- I'm not sure it's about tense and lax at all, but if there's something more tedious than discussing pronunciation on the internet, please don't tell me what it is. I don't wanna know.

How about them [sports team]?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Boo Dan! That once happened here to another clerk and going to a hearing. The attorney asked her to go, the clerk said yes, and then a half hour later called her from the hearing asking where she was. The attorney had just left without getting the clerk or telling her she was leaving...

Bot = baht
Bought = bawt

I say ARRR-nge. I draw the line at Lawrel, although I could easily lapse into it.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.carpshop.com/images/Left%20Behind%20II.jpg

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link

oh yeah, i bought pretzels at jewel last night and learned two things: 1) they don't taste any better in the toaster oven than they do in the microwave and it's much faster to microwave them; and 2) the circuit in my kitchen can not handle me running both the microwave and toaster oven concurrently.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.lecybercactus.com/images/uploads/articles/28days.jpg

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh Kirk Cameron, how low you have sunk. Did he have a meth problem?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.eccentric-cinema.com/images2003/movie_pix_j-p/omega_man06.jpg

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

No, he has a Jesus problem.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/o/images/open-water-1.jpg

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Barack Obama keeps sending me emails telling me how many days it is until election day.

Dear Barack Obama,

I HAVE A CALENDAR.

--AK

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I knew that, I just thought a meth problem could have led to the Jesus problem.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Barak must read ILX, 'cause he keeps sending those messages to my yahoo spam address too.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:53 (eighteen years ago) link

http://leonardodavinci.csa.fi.it/studenti/altrimondi/film/img/et.jpg

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, that's the best one yet. Truly, I am E.T.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I got two post cards from Todd Stroger yesterday.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:01 (eighteen years ago) link

ET was really the grand finale. I can't think of anything else.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs4/300W/i/2004/232/e/2/the_abandoned__zombie_sketches.jpg

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

There's a craigslist ad that says "we currently have 2 males and 2 females in the apartment and we want to keep a balance, so we're looking for a male roommte." THEN GET A DOG, YOU DUMB JERK.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

shouldn't they be looking for a hermaphrodite in that case? or is one of the males moving out?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link

AH! Jordan has inspired me.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1401200761.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

And speaking of comics... They're making a movie from 30 Days of Night? That had better not suck or I will destroy a small Alaskan village out of revenge.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I still haven't read that.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link

It's really good! And the art is super creepy. Although, I'm not sure if I finished the first series or not.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

turkey sub made me sleeeeeeeepy.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Laurel: we are currently scheduled for 7:45 on Friday, smack dab in the middle of the lineup. However, the band before us, I Need Sleep, is pretty awesome, so it might be worth trying to get there by 7, and then John's band is playing a couple of hours (?) later.

― nick a., Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

All right, 7pm is the plan. My parents are seeing a Bway show at 8pm and they gave me the night off from parent-sitting duties so I'll get there sometime. If I email you my mobile phone no will you text me so I have yours?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

yep - email to naamme at yahoo.com

― nick a., Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, I myspaced you already. Whatev.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic

Fuck the hataz. Just 'cause they have short attention spans...

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I just glanced at my dictionary, which is still open to "horrible." Apparently "hop o' my thumb" is a term that dates back to 1530 meaning "a very small person." Etymology: "earlier hop on my thumb, an imperative issued to one supposedly small enough to be held in the hand." WTF.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I still like Lost! Actually, the last show that I purposefully watched during its regular season was The Simpsons/X-Files Sunday line-up. Oh, well and Project Runway. And soon Battlestar Galactica, when I catch up.

Dag. I watch a lot of TV.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.ajokes.com/images/pictures/fingermonkey.jpg

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't understand that comic.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link

It's simultaneously making fun of bad stand up comics and the TV show Lost.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Yenny, is there anything you want me to bring for the presentazione tonight? I will make the copies before you get there, so don't worry about that. Snacks? Costumes?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't think of anything. Is it going to bother the stoods that I got a little bit of burrito on my pants, do you think?

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Nah, you can even sit down if you want! We can arrange the desks in a circle. Or you can spray burrito on their pants and everyone can start on an even playing field.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I knew my Burrito Super Soaker would come in handy one of these days.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link

"Good evening everyone! Today we're going to try something a little different..."

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link

The combination of the words "presentazione" and "snacks" has made me crave calzones somethin' powerful.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

i can't wait to go home tonight and eat more pretzels.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:40 (eighteen years ago) link

This is my favorite webcomic about stand-up comedy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

The fact that you even have a favorite web comic about stand-up comedy is fascinating.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

This is my favorite comic about food:

http://pbfcomics.com/archive/PBF103AD-Food_Fight.gif

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Did anyone ever watch Undeclared? I know it's probably not as good as Freaks and Geeks, but I have a feeling that when I'm done with F&G (Disc 6 arrives in a couple of days) I will be jonesing for more lovable Apatow dramedy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha.

I need an inexpensive and decent digital camera. I will take the first suggestion given to me.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Perry Bible Fellowship does that last-panel reveal a lot. Still funny, though!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

undeclared was great. not as endearing as F&G but that has as much to do with the setting (freshman year of college vs. high school) as anything else.

perry is way under rated in that show.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Jordan: I swear by these cameras.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, Kenan recommended the PowerShot to me when I was shopping around last year, and I have been pleased with it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks Kenan! It is as good as done.

This is my favorite comic about peeing

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I just realized I've never listened to that hugely popular Strokes album all the way through until now. It's alright, eh?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I haven't listened to that album in an age. Yeah, it's excellent.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the second one too. Ain't no shame!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link

re: powershots. i have an ancient a40 (about 6 years old now) and while it works fine and takes decent photos, the thing is so damn bulky with that one fat end that it's too big to fit in my pocket and therefore gets left home a lot.

re: strokes. i haven't heard that record since it came out. i had the aussie import with the different cover and nyc cops that got dropped from the american release after 9/11. it was a decent album i guess, didn't do much for me and certainly didn't help me understand the hype that surrounded them at the time.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Why would I have heard a Strokes album?

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link

that "laaaaaaaaast night, shheeeeeeeeee said..." song is catchy as hell though.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I like that song. They also have occasionally hilarious stage banter. I am particularly fond of the vodka styling product comment.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link

"Last Night" = "American Girl." Therefore = good.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I love stage banter.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

You should get Bob Pollard's album FULL of nothing but stage banter! I think it's called "Relaxation of the Asshole."

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe I should. I've always meant to get Eddie Harris' stage banter album.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link

van halen from the US Fest = BEST STAGE BANTER EVER!!!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Explain.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

extra loaded dlr talking shit about the clash. he's so coked/liquored up that he stops singing in the middle of "ain't talkin' 'bout love" to sling shit at them.

that was the festival where they wouldn't play unless they got $1,000,001 as david bowie was getting an even million. everyone else got peanuts.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Wasn't it supposed to be a benefit concert?

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link

That is rad.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link

FYI: I am looking at boots again and I said to my coworker "I think I'll just get a pair of those furry Ugg boots" and she said, "If you ever wore those, I'd kick you."

Just so you all know that I'm not alone in my irrational Ugg hate. Which also reminds me to say to Laurel: Crocs? Does NY let you wear Crocs?

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

yes, but the old joke was "why is it called the US Fest?" "'cause all the money goes to us!".

but yeah, benefit or no they weren't playing unless they got more than anyone on the bill. they said they were fine with taking a dollar more than the scale everyone else was on but when bowie got added at the 11th hour for a mil they said they needed a million one.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck Van Halen

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Just so you all know that I'm not alone in my irrational Ugg hate

I don't know anyone that likes them, frankly.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link

xxpost Um... because they're more of a draw than Bowie? Is that even true?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link

And yet I see them on ex-sorority girls around the office (uggs, not Van Halen. Van Halen rulz.)

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Has anyone messed around with the beta of Windows Vista yet? I'm downloading beta 2 now. Everything I've read says that it's not majorly buggy, and pretty safe to upgrade to.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

dan martin you must be feverish.

in may of 83 van halen was the biggest draw in the western world i'd imagine.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, I guess I should have said "fuck overblown rockstar egos". There are some decent VH tunez. I'd be very surprised if any of you are Hagar sympathizers, though.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Plus I just really like the Clash a lot more.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Jenny, NYC totally doesn't love Crocs but I have fucked-up sore feet so I went for them, ostensibly as winter house shoes that I could run to the deli in. Of course, yesterday I walked around much more than I planned to, and my feet are now triangulated with blisters and won't fit into anything but these rubber clogs.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

dan, i just typed a long, detailed response but it read like a hysterical ilm post. so obviously that got shit canned. but for their genre they were at least as good as the clash.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, that's cool, we don't need any hysterical ILM shit here I don't think. I feel your (and Jordan's) love for VH, although if it's the Sammy years (or whoever the clown that came after him was) then I don't know how I feel about that.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

no, when dlr left the spirit left.

whatever spirit that was.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Van Halen with DLR was the best rock band on the planet.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I *heart* Van Halen up through 1984, which I'm about half and half on. My aunt used to have a giant DLR poster in her room that depicted him shirtless and either tied to or just spread-armed up against a chain-link fence.

xpost - oh, Kenan, you're just looking for a fight with a statement like that.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Do they have any songs I would know besides "Jump"?

The Clash is one of the most overrated bands ever.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link

The guitarist in the 0ptimistic is a HUGE Van Halen fan. At the end of tunes he always wants me to do this Alex Van Halen fill, the one that sounds like a motorcycle engine revving down.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link

xxpost They really were, though. That first VH record is one of my all-time favorite records.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Do they have any songs I would know besides "Jump"?

Probably not.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:14 (eighteen years ago) link


[edit] Singles
Year Title US Hot 100 US Mainstream Rock UK singles Album
1978 You Really Got Me 36 - - Van Halen
1978 Runnin' With The Devil 84 - - Van Halen
1978 Jamie's Cryin' - - - Van Halen
1978 Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love - - - Van Halen
1979 Dance the Night Away 15 - - Van Halen II
1979 Beautiful Girls 84 - - Van Halen II
1980 And The Cradle Will Rock... 55 - - Women and Children First
1981 So This Is Love? - 15 - Fair Warning
1982 (Oh) Pretty Woman 12 1 - Diver Down
1982 Dancing In The Street 38 3 - Diver Down
1982 Secrets - 22 - Diver Down
1984 Jump 1 - 7 1984
1984 I'll Wait 13 - - 1984
1984 Panama 13 - - 1984
1984 Hot For Teacher 56 34 1984
1986 Why Can't This Be Love 3 1 8 5150
1986 Dreams 22 6 32 5150
1986 Love Walks In 22 4 - 5150
1988 When It's Love 5 1 - OU812
1988 Black And Blue 34 1 - OU812
1988 Finish What Ya Started 13 2 28 OU812
1988 Cabo Wabo - 31 - OU812
1989 Feels So Good 35 6 63 OU812
1991 Top of The World 27 1 63 For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge
1991 Runaround - 1 - For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge
1991 Poundcake - 1 - For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge
1992 The Dream Is Over - 7 - For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge
1992 Right Now 55 2 - For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge

xpost, lol

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Almost all of the Haggar stuff can eat me. But I do like "Why Can't This Be Love."

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Fun things: legitimately googling "Varicocele" at work and having your boss walk into your work space only to find pictures of giant penises on your computer screen.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link

1978 You Really Got Me 36 - - Van Halen
1978 Runnin' With The Devil 84 - - Van Halen
1978 Jamie's Cryin' - - - Van Halen
1978 Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love - - - Van Halen
1979 Dance the Night Away 15 - - Van Halen II
1979 Beautiful Girls 84 - - Van Halen II
1980 And The Cradle Will Rock... 55 - - Women and Children First
1981 So This Is Love? - 15 - Fair Warning
1982 (Oh) Pretty Woman 12 1 - Diver Down
1982 Dancing In The Street 38 3 - Diver Down
1982 Secrets - 22 - Diver Down

those first four albums are all killer. i'm with jenny on 1984 but still, cheese and all, the first four records are boss.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost to jenny, at least they were only pictures.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I wish I had 1984 in my car right now (no pun intended).

I came in early today, and now I'm leaving to find out if Madison has real gelato or not.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link

It doesn't feel like Women and Children only had one single.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

The Clash is one of the most overrated bands ever.

I can't tell if you're making this statement to just make waves or because you actually believe it. Either way, it's retarded.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

There are songs I'm surprised weren't singles, like Drop Dead Legs.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

then there's a song like "house of pain" which was probably of their best straight ahead rock songs. it was on their gene simmons produced demo, played live for 10 years then finally came out on 1984 when the band could no longer agree on the quality of the newer songs.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

all this VH talk is making me want to burn a j in the back of camaro then go get a mullett.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I know! I miss my cousin Darrel. He was a goofball hick piece of trash, who made my early music listening experiences so damn rockin'.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost to jenny, at least they were only pictures.

As opposed to actual penises?

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

exactly. i'm guessing if you were sitting around a some dudes from the office or perhaps just visitors or whatever where at your desk with their business draped over your monitor like some bad fringed vest it would be worse than pictures.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm listening to side 2 of 1984 now. The rest of the art room can just fucking deal.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link

around a should be around with.

or whatever where shoud be or whatever were.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link

later chicago.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost - Worse for all of us.

― jenny (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I guess I also know "Right Now."

I can't tell if you're making this statement to just make waves or because you actually believe it. Either way, it's retarded.

Little of both, my friend.

Granted, I've only heard London Calling, but I really only like a few of those songs, like the title track, "Spanish Bombs," "Train in Vain," and "Lost in the Supermarket." And "Rock the Casbah" is obv. great. But there's also plenty of Clash songs that just sound like uninteresting bar-rock to me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link

If you don't like "Rudy Can't Fail" then you don't have a pulse.

I wholeheartedly believe later Clash records are mostly for shit (Cut the Crap, for example) but playing the "overrated" card based on a single album is kind of feeble, no? Not that I think you'd like their first record more (it does having some "uninteresting bar-rock" tunes) but it's also got a few that are true gems.

Rock music John doesn't like = uninteresting bar rock? It's a trend I've noticed.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm sorry, I just brought the ILM. This is why I don't post there. I actually really hate arguing about music.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Yer right about me not liking "uninteresting bar-rock." Unless that's a term I just use for any music that I don't like. But generally meat-and-potatoes three-chord boozy rabble-rousing ain't my thing.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Also a trend = my favorite Clash songs ("Supermarket," "Casbah") are the disco ones.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link

How do you feel about the reggae ones?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Like which? I'm not a huge reggae fan, to be honest.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Like... well, off of London Calling, the obvious one is "Guns of Brixton."

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck yes. And the aforementioned "Rudy Can't Fail".

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I kinda like "Guns of Brixton." In fact, I almost included it on the list of songs I like from that album. I don't remember "Rudy Can't Fail," and it's not on my iPod.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Real-lx seems to be back.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's been back for about an hour. I just kept posting here b/c you guys were.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 23:04 (eighteen years ago) link

It was working off and on for me until I just checked again.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link

"White Man in Hammersmith Palais" is not good.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 23:08 (eighteen years ago) link

No, it's brilliant.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 23:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey John, you can borrow the Undeclared DVDs from me if you want. It's nowhere near as good as Freaks & Geeks but still entertaining, and most of the kids are pretty great. Plus, Loudon Wainwright III.

― n/a, Wednesday, 1 November 2006 23:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Cool -- that'd be rad, Nick.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 November 2006 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

anyone home?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link

no? no one?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

ok, well i'll be taking a nap on the couch so try not to slam any doors when you come in alright? thanks.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link

HEYYYYY!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

yo

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 22:56 (eighteen years ago) link

The Chicago thread never, ever dies. Sometimes you want to go where everybody knows your name.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link

GOBBLE GOBBLE TURKEYS.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link

FUCK A BUNCH OF GIVING THANKS. WE WANT MORE BOOBS.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

to explain: we ate, drank, and watched Beyond the Valley of the Dolls. We got our boobs on.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link

damn, that'll teach me.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.cosmicoutfitters.com/images/boobswh.gif

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Did you know that if you forget the address of the fake ILX you can just Google it? Keywords: ILX SANDBOX.

― jessjeejsseess, Friday, 24 November 2006 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

or you can search your gmail.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

This is not cutting it for me.

― jj, Friday, 24 November 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm functioning (if that's what you want to call it) on only one working nostril. the right one has apparently been filled with concrete.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

sleep on your other side tonight.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, when i woke up the right was the working side. but not anymore.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Sudafed, but not the PE shit.

― jjjjjjj, Friday, 24 November 2006 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

sleep on your other side tonight.

the real problem is that he slept on his side to begin with--it's unnatural.

― jjjjjj, Friday, 24 November 2006 16:08 (eighteen years ago) link

but the only way to make it work when i'm sleeping on my couch. and yes, i took sudafed last night and it worked great but i forgot to take it with me. i left it on the bookcase next to my door along with my phone.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I have so much shit to do today. I think I'm ready now. I have showered, shaved, loofahed, trimmed my unruliest body hair, lotioned, taken out the trash, sorted my laundry, swept, put away my shoes, and opened the windows to air everything out.

Who wants to touch me?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

sure thing

― Sir Gregory of St.Kitts (g-kit), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Listening to: Anita Baker. What a set of pipes.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Alright, I'm gay. Fine. Is that what you want to hear?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

LONGEST MORNING EVER.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link

CHOCOLATE FOR BREAKFAST OH YEAH.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't actually metabolize chocolate very well so i'll be all SKIDDLY BOPPITY DO WAH BAH LALALA WOW a la amanda because it makes me mad jittery.

oh, but fine chocolate is worth it. LOVE.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

hah!

As if hanging around Julia didn't already have enough advantages, now there's apparently a constant supply of chocolate.

My life is too good. Something bad is going to happen soon.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

kenan has become the bizarro me.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link

That means something good is going to happen soon!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

but otto, don't you have a crazy weekend of drinking and debauchery to look forward to? or was that last night, hence the long morning?

yeah, yest morn was great. my roommate's nongirlfriend came out of the bedroom and asked if we wanted a truffle or something, then brought out a PILE of little trays of gourmet chocolates. oh the ganache. i like having a chocolate chef around.

xp let's just try for good all around.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Good morning, sunshines. I just ate two of Sarah's cookies for breakfast. MmmmMMM!

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

i have opted out of debauchery. i don't think my brain/body/soul can take much more of this.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I ate all of that macaroni before bed last night. It was sooo good.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link

lol at Lance Rock

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

My paw is almost all better today! I credit the consistent application of ice and my amazing self-healing powers and adamantium skeleton.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 24 November 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

yesterday i went to the jewel on ashland/milwaukee/paulina along with roughly 900,000 other chicagoans. i brought my handy shopping list provided by handymanda with the intent of making chili. i crossed off what i had at home, got the remaining ingredients and some other things i needed. they were all out of loose red potatoes, they only had the pre-packaged 5 lb. bags and as i was walking and already had a ton of stuff i decided not to have garlic mashed 'taters for thanksgiving. when i got home i got my pot ready for the chili, i opened the cans of beans and diced tomatoes, i got a skillet ready with some oil for the onion and celery (and garlic). it was at about this time i realized i never got around to buying any ground beef. so, dejectedly, i put everying into ziplock containers and will give it another go tonight. i had grilled cheese and ruffles and onion dip while watching football. all in all not a bad day.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost Does it hurt when your claws come out?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

what did you do jenny?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Jenny made stuffed squashes and they were awesome.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Jenny grabbed the glass lid of a casserole dish with her bare hand, intending to clear counter space and do some dishes, not realizing that said glass lid had just spent 30 minutes in a 400 degree oven.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 24 November 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm going to put that squash recipe on the blog. I'll put the mac and cheese recipe up, too, if anyone wants it although it's not of my own devising.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 24 November 2006 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link

in the past, when i have been unable to find pot holder i have been known to take a chance and bet that my pain threshold is greater than the time it will take for me to take something out of the oven and put it on a counter. i'd say i'm right close to 40% of the time.

xpost- mac me up!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't want the recipe. I just want you to make more of it and give it to me.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

oh, hey, i didn't realize that was an option. i'll take that instead too please.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Check this out:

Average Money Spent on Private Car Ownership (Bureau of Labor Statistics, Consumer Expenditure Survey 2003-04)

Vehicle Purchases $3,618
Gas and Motor Oil $1,449
Other $2,445
TOTAL $7,512

Typical Transportaton Costs (per year) for an I-GO Member:
Car Sharing: $1,080
Transit $ 900
Rental Car $ 300
Taxis $ 240
TOTAL: $2,520

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 24 November 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

pain in the assness because every one of the four cars within a 1 mile walk of my place being booked almost 24 hours a day for 5 days in advance? priceless.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

that mac and cheese recipe makes me salivate.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Friday, 24 November 2006 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah me too. i would do something rash for some mac 'n' cheese right now. oh, wednesday night i woke up in a panic because the CO2 detector was going off in my apartment. turns out it was because the batteries were dying but for a brief 2 minute span when i wasn't quite awake and unable to process what was going on i was in a disoriented state of panic.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay, stuffed squash recipe is up, too. I realize that I have no idea of the actual measurements for most stuff.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 24 November 2006 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Jenny, you made an awesome meal.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I only made two components. You are forgetting Nick's asparagus and cheese biscuits, Sarah's sweet potato casserole and cookies, Jesse's green bean casserole, Courtney's sour cream pie (I think you missed the sour cream pie course) and razzleberry pie, and beer.

Stuffed squash and mac and cheese alone would have been kind of sad.

Damn, we had an awesome dinner, didn't we?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 24 November 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

You're right, of course. I also LUUUUV asparagus.

Stuffed squash and mac and cheese alone would have been kind of sad.

This is not right.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Cookies! Oh, those were some good cookies.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Did we ever get a definitive answer on wtf a razzleberry is?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

sounds like the testicles from the drummer to hanoi rocks to me.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I want Nick's asparagus recipe. I like it baked on a cookie sheet, drenched in balsamic vinegar and salt. But Nick was on some other shit, and the shit was good.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I am watching the movie Misery. Apart from Carrie, which is the best, and The Dead Zone, which is awesome, this is the third best Steven King movie.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link

HELLO THE SHINING CALLED AND WANTS YOU TO RETHINK YOUR LIST.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 24 November 2006 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

THE SHINING CALLED AND WANTS YOU TO RETHINK YOUR LIST?

That's a Kubrick movie. Duh.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

STAND BY ME THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link

ew. Middle school.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

STILL A GOOD MOVIE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link

i've never seen cujo in it's entirety. i liked christine, though i realize it wasn't a very good movie.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost Uh... I guess. I kind of think of it as being the same as The Breakfast Club, only 7 years younger. "You have issues appropriate to our age? Wahey! So do I!"

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

WHATEVER TEDDY DUCHAMP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link

oh shit i've been feldman'd.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 24 November 2006 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

If you eliminate The Shining from your Stephen King movie list because it's a Kubrick movie, then you have to eliminate Carrie because it's a DePalma movie and The Dead Zone because it's a Cronenberg movie.

I liked Stand by Me a lot, even though it wasn't that scary.

Let's see... taking camp value and nostalgia as well as actual goodness into account, my list would go:

The Shining*, **
Carrie*
Creepshow
Children of the Corn
Stand by Me
The Dead Zone
Christine
Shawshank Redemption
Maximum Overdrive
Firestarter
Misery
Pet Sematary (sic)
Salem's Lot

Anything not on this list means not even camp or nostalgic value could save it from being utter crap. Inclusion on this list doesn't automatically exclude the film from being utter crap, either; it just means I have a soft spot for it.

*These movies would be in a top ten favorite movies list, regardless of Stephen King's involvement.
**Kenan does have a point, though, since Stephen King for some reason decided he had to remake this movie into a total steaming turd because he believed Kubrick somehow got it wrong.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 24 November 2006 19:14 (eighteen years ago) link

There's a new IGo car location by my house in the Aon parking deck. I hope that the fact that they're always booked up means that they will continue to expand their service.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 24 November 2006 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Between the day we moved in and last weekend when we reserved a car they had added a bunch of locations to our neighborhood, so I think they are and will continue to expand.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 24 November 2006 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I hope they get a Honda S2000.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 24 November 2006 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link

who is crunkleJ?

and i forgot about shawshank, one of my FAVORITE MOVIES EVER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

It kind of smells like old beer and smoke in our apartment, and I think that's oozing up from our downstairs neighbors' apartment, who smoke and had a big old Thanksgiving fiesta yesterday.

xpost - it's Jesse.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 24 November 2006 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

it's goddamn jesse.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 24 November 2006 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

my apartment smells like stale incense, old sweat, and lies, lies, lies

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 24 November 2006 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

(NIN lyrics)

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 24 November 2006 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

my apartment smells like the frozen pizza i made at 2:15 this morning.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 24 November 2006 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/107/303801171_0c0f1c462e.jpg?v=0

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 24 November 2006 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Proof that Norman Rockwell had a dark and evil side.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 24 November 2006 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I just made popcorn on the stove! It was delicious!

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 25 November 2006 02:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Hi there. I don't know why I never really registered this in my brain before, but the microbrewery in my home town sells pints of beer for two dollars. It's insane. Think of what it would be like if there was a place like this in Chicago -- a place that would sell 5 or so moderately good to pedestrian American style beers until only 11 o'clock at night. The cross-section of people you'd see drinking there would be amazing.

But here, it's like the only game in town. It's big, it's cheap, it has free wireless. It's full of people from about 5 PM untill 11. Then the drunk people spill out of the place and the social strata of the town becomes clear. Certain people walk out and go to one bar, some other people go to a different one, and a few go home. It's really weird, and god damn I'm drunk.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Saturday, 25 November 2006 07:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I uploaded the Beyond the Valley of the Dolls soundtrack to the blog. Enjoy.

I never had realized that Mylo sampled it. DENSE>

― jefferson algounquin, Saturday, 25 November 2006 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Hm. Seems that archive is empty.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 25 November 2006 23:25 (eighteen years ago) link

"My" asparagus recipe is just the "asparagus appointment" recipe from ILX: take asparagus, brush/coat in olive oil, add salt and garlic powder to taste, and roast at hot (like 425) until tender. It's the recipe with the highest tastiness-to-easiness-to-prepare ratio that I know.

Anyone up for doing something tonight? Sarah and I are indecisive. We are considering:

1. Rock show
a) Dead Meadow/Pinebender at Sub-T
b) Pere Ubu and Mahjongg at Abbey Pub if it's not sold out
c) Oranges Band and Red Eyed Legends at the Note (probably not)

2. Movie
a) The Fountain
b) For Your Consideration

3. Something else. I mainly just want to get out of the apartment.

Call me.

― n/a, Saturday, 25 November 2006 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Sarah is making xmas ornaments, I am bored. I want to play video games but am bored with all of mine.

― n/a, Saturday, 25 November 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm listening to Christmas music. Maybe I should post my favorite Tony Bennett number to the blog.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 26 November 2006 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Jeff and I just finished cleaning our little hearts out and now we want to leave the apartment before we trash it again.

We're hungry.

― jenny not jeff, Sunday, 26 November 2006 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost Ok, done.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 26 November 2006 00:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Jenny, tell Jeff that his BTVOTD OST is a bad file. Re-upload, plz.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 26 November 2006 00:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Nick, I'd go out with you, but I have computer-related obligations that I am pushing to the very outside limit. Even as we speak. I shouldn't be dicking around with uploading music and shit.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 26 November 2006 00:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Kr and I are going to see Memento Polonia at 8 pm, but we're up for hanging out after the play if anyone wants to have drinks or something.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 26 November 2006 00:29 (eighteen years ago) link

if you're going to be in the neighborhood later, i maybe could use a beer.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 26 November 2006 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link

How many celebrities can you name?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bPIqX8gbyVA

My favorite guy: "Life's unfair, and Ernest Goes to Jail tells us that."

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 26 November 2006 04:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey, I put "Trill" by the Clipse on the blog. Download it for awesome misogynistic, crack-promoting rap.

― n/a, Sunday, 26 November 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

News of the day: I have another cat for December. The evil one, the Acker. She was supposed to bring her over a week or two ago, but... well, that didn't happen. Anyway. She's being surprisingly calm and sweet, and so is Dobbler. I think the apartment is big and separated enough that they're finding it easy to ignore each other. Perfect.

The new Tom Waits set is freaking awesome. The first disc especially is some kinda awesome bloozy Waits-essence concoction. And the third disc is so bleeding strange. Love.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 26 November 2006 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't identify all the people on the cover. One is clearly Burroughs, which makes perfect sense, and one looks like a Modigliani, and one is some kind of gangster-looking dude. Dillinger? No... not him. Something like that, I'm guessing. And then there are these ghostly figures. Weird.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 26 November 2006 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Supplementing my listening today with Skip Spence. Also very good. Been meaning to get this for freaking ever, but never got around to it until today.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 26 November 2006 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought this would go away quickly, but when the windows are open and the train is really loud going by at all hours of the night, I still have train-related dreams. Last night I dreamed I worked for CTA, and was working on the tracks for some vague reason, but the trains kept going by and interrupting me and almost running me over.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 26 November 2006 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link

trains are huge and really very loud. I wish they could all be underground.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 26 November 2006 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, this sounds like a great job

http://www.cta.apply2jobs.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=DSPView&Lookupid=1218&CurrentPage=3

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Sunday, 26 November 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Makin' jambalaya! Hangin' out by myself, listening to UK pop hits from the '70s! Maaan, every day is awesome now. I went back to the old place to get some more stuff, though, and the cats had no food or water, the place is scary and squat-like and so dirty that I didn't like to inhale, and my landlord threw away my Netflix picks, the head-fucked bastard.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 27 November 2006 00:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, this sounds like a great job

I don't know if "great" is the word, but that sounds like the job I'll have at 40 if I don't don't get more ambitious in a hurry.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 01:05 (seventeen years ago) link

the place is scary and squat-like and so dirty that I didn't like to inhale

haha My last place was like that for the whole time I lived in it. Cats and all.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 02:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, you don't think it sounds good? I suppose I'd like to see what it pays... but otherwise it'd be pretty cool!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 02:19 (seventeen years ago) link

(I also am not remotely qualified)

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 02:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I would love a job like that.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 04:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought this would go away quickly, but when the windows are open and the train is really loud going by at all hours of the night, I still have train-related dreams. Last night I dreamed I worked for CTA, and was working on the tracks for some vague reason, but the trains kept going by and interrupting me and almost running me over.


I too often dream of trains.

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:-IAONYZaXGwvgM:http://static.last.fm/groupavatar/5398e914ce6e9cd562eb96ca07d8678d.jpg

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 04:26 (seventeen years ago) link

2 Cheers and 1 Jeer for Ikea. Cheers for helping me stock my kitchen with (18-piece set (NOT 16!) of decent looking dishes (for $18), frying pan, sauce pan and a few other kitchencetera for a very nice price. Also for supplying Courtney with some reasonably grown-up looking furniture at a good price.

The 2nd cheer is for cheap eats: 99c breakfast (eggs, bacon, potatoes), $1.99 breakfast (eggs, bacon, sausage, potatoes, french toast) and Swedish meatball lunch, not to mention lingonberries at every turn.

1 Jeer for missing parts in their furniture. In the 3 pieces I put together tonight I was missing 1 screw (easily replaced) and 2 obscure fasteners. Grrr.

Also, Courtney made clear that I was forbidden from having sex at Ikea this time.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 04:33 (seventeen years ago) link

boooo hiss

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 05:26 (seventeen years ago) link

This is where Jessa is going, and I'm really, deeply envious:

http://www.idlewords.com/2006/04/argentina_on_two_steaks_a_day.htm

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 05:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Eating steaks in Argentina feels like joining a cult. You find yourself leaning on friends to come visit, and writing YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND in all caps more often than feels comfortable. Argentine beef really is extraordinary. Almost all of this has to do with how the cows are raised. There are no factory feedlots in Argentina; the animals still eat pampas grass their whole lives, in open pasture, and not the chicken droppings and feathers mixed with corn that pass for animal feed in the United States. Since this is the way of life a cow was designed for, it is not necessary to pump the animal full of antibiotics. The meat is leaner, healthier and more flavorful than that of corn-fed cattle. It has fewer calories, contains less cholesterol, and tastes less mushy and waterlogged than American meat. And the cows spend their lives out grazing in the field, not locked into some small pen. You can taste the joy.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 05:59 (seventeen years ago) link

hahaha: "Surely Solís was wearing one of those crucifixes that shows Jesus actually hanging from the cross. It must have been a simple mistake on the part of the natives, who saw him as a friendly gift from the visitors on the boat, complete with a serving suggestion suspended around his neck."

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 06:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Cheers for helping me stock my kitchen with (18-piece set (NOT 16!) of decent looking dishes (for $18)

I think I may have the exact same dishes.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 06:27 (seventeen years ago) link

1 Jeer for missing parts in their furniture.

Ditto. I was only able to put my bed together through the good graces of someone's well-stocked toolbox, because the parts sure as hell didn't fit.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 06:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Hello Chicago. I am out of cocoon.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:24 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.hhmi.org/coolscience/butterfly/cycleanim.gif

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:25 (seventeen years ago) link

my face has been leaking yellow-green snot all weekend chicago and i don't like it one bit. a thoroughly disappointing weekend all the way around (with the exception of the pats game yesterday).

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

does this work? testing testing

― Sarah Johnson, Monday, 27 November 2006 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Now I have a name

― Calico (calico), Monday, 27 November 2006 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Job Title: ENVIRONMENTAL GRAPHIC DESIGNER
Job Type: Full Time Regular
Primary Duties and Responsibilities: Proofreading; spelling Belmont correctly; remembering the existence of the Fullerton transfer; designing stickers to cheaply correct the last environmental graphic designers stupid mistakes.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

...possessive apostrophe skills...

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

My weekend was SO F'N LAZY. Let's see.. What the hell did I do? There was Thanksgiving... That was good stuff. Then there were a ton of leftovers. I spent most of the day after Thanksgiving napping. I tried to do some Christmas shopping, but didn't have much luck. I went to the gym a couple of times, had Indian food and drinks, and watched lots of Herzog and Kinski. I started watching Big Love. I got through most of my decoupage Christmas ornament making. I read some Christopher Moore bahhumbuggery. I put up fliers and then was sad when they were all ripped down basically 24 hours later. I played a championship boggle-trivial pursuit-scrabble game against Nick and won, so he has to treat me to a movie.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 27 November 2006 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe I'm not so ready to be back at work yet... Where is everyone?

― Calico (calico), Monday, 27 November 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

friday i saw a formerly great band play a really shitty set, you know if dan the fan stops dancing there is something seriously wrong with your band.

saturday i went to a party but was home by 1.

sunday i watched the pats turn the ball over 5 times and still beat the bears. that was great.

starting wednesday i will be house/dog/cat sitting for a friend out in berwyn.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, and at the party saturday night someone was telling a story about this dude who is working on the L O S T video game. apparently the dude's creative team needed to know what the outcome of the story was in order to create the game, if the ending is what i was told it will be color me disappointed.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it a nice place?

Nick told me he read in the Reader that dan the fan just turned 50. I had no idea he was so up there in age! I mean, he looks a bit older, but not 50.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 27 November 2006 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

it's a bungalow on a tree lined street, it's a great little house. has a small backyard, a garden, and a garage her husband tinkers around in since neither of them have cars. i am insanely jealous of that place.

yes, dan's birthday party was last saturday, c0c0c0ma played along with al3x white, the d1als, and magnetix from france who were the nicest people. the place was packed to past capacity and the brownie to person ratio was still around 5:1. that was a crazy night, that was the night before the morning i stood outside the church listening to gospel music.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

spelling Belmont correctly; remembering the existence of the Fullerton transfer; designing stickers to cheaply correct the last environmental graphic designers stupid mistakes

I think there are about 3 million people thinking that this is the job for them.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Four days without work OR ILX, wow.

Southern thxgiving was great, I got stuffed on shrimp + rice + veggies, okra, biscuits, and chocolate pecan pie. Then I ate like 10 biscuits for breakfast and gigged at a vast mall-city (weird).

Lots of going out and chillin out this week, I'm sad that it's over.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Also saw The Man with the Golden Arm (good, but they really stick it to Sophie in the movie, huh?) and read In Cold Blood (which turned out to be a good follow-up to MwtGA since apparently Algren was obsessed with it?).

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think I knew how much of a legend Dan the Fan was until I read that article -- but then I don't go to the same shows he does. I've only seen him two or three times. Once was when I was playing with Green, and then this summer he came to Cleveland to see the Dials.

My weekend was good. Yesterday Kr and I saw the new documentary about Jonestown, at the Siskel Film Center, which I definitely recommend, esp. if all you know about the event is "Kool-Aid laced with cyanide."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

This is where Jessa is going, and I'm really, deeply envious:

I'd love to go to Argentina but not to eat the steaks.

That writer writes like you, Kenan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, I waited like a month for IKEA to deliver the missing parts for my sofa.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

ooh... Mass murder. Coolio.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, it's a pretty standard PBS talking-heads documentary, but it's fascinating. I did not know that the People's Temple started out as a progressive Christian church that championed racial integration and equality, and that was how Jones was able to attract so many followers. He even had three non-white adopted kids.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but wasn't he kind of a creepy Koresh-kinda guy who claimed all the kids as his own?

What was the doc called?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

It's about time for a good steak in me. It's been too long.

Did anyone do any shopping on Black Friday? State Street was a mess. Surprisingly, Ikea was very tame.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, he was definitely creepy -- there are lots of allegations of him having sex with both male and female members of the church -- and he was undoubtedly controlling, but I don't think he literally thought of all children as his own.

The doc is called Jonestown: The Life and Death of Peoples Temple.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

...possessive apostrophe skills...

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

cleaninghunk.com

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not usually a big steak guy, but after reading that article I want to go to a (inferior American) steakhouse for lunch.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Surprisingly, Ikea was very tame.

The trick to Ikea, I found, was to arrive as soon as it opens, know exactly what you want, and get the fuck out of there by 11.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I had some uncooked steak for lunch the other day and it was delish. It was like a steak ceviche--raw, but "cooked" by a citrus marinade. Seems weird that this was at Catch, a seafood place.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope it gave me worms that will help me lose weight....

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Ikea opened at 10 and we got there at 11 and farted around until 2 and it never got that crazy. The 2 meals we ate there we were strangely fortunate in that there was no line for the cafe, but by the time we paid and sat down a line 20-deep had formed.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I would like to try that!

xpost, I mean steak ceviche.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I was a little upset that I was too stuffed from Tweet's to eat anything at Ikea, even a 50 cent hot dog.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

(xp) Was it different from steak tartare?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I think steak tartare is completely uncooked meat. This was a Thai sort of dish, I think.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Steak tartare is a meat dish made from finely chopped, or ground raw beef. It is often served with onions, capers and seasonings (the latter typically incorporating fresh ground pepper and Worcestershire sauce), and sometimes with a raw egg.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

The Mexican version of steak tartare typically marinates the meat in lime juice, in the manner of ceviche, which has the effect of disinfecting the meat to a certain extent.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm. I'm not up on my tartares.

http://idata.over-blog.com/0/02/55/31/recettes/steak-tartare2.jpg

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

That's just crying out to be mixed together and made into a meatloaf.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think I would like steak tartare. In fact I think I would hate it.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

After some intense Googling, I will direct your attention to this fascinating account of the potential consequences of enjoying a nice beef tartare: http://fray.com/drugs/worm/01.html

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Have you guys seen Yacht Rock? It is great and I think you would all love it.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

You're kidding, right?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I will direct your attention to this fascinating account of the potential consequences of enjoying a nice beef tartare

It's illustrated? That's not the editorial decision I would have made.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha:

'"Monsieur," he finally said, "ce n'est pas grave. Je pense que vous avez un ver solitaire."

I had un ver solitaire? What was that? A solitary worm? A lonely worm.'

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

You're kidding, right?

Oh hush. It's like when Adamrl started a thread about this weird e-mail from Nigeria he got.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

You're kidding, right?

Is it old news?

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't recommend putting a yogurt granola bar in the fridge.

That uncooked meat looks cold and slimy.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay sorry, one of my friends just told me about it the other day.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Yacht Rock was all over FRM long ago.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

But it is still teh funney!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Give Jordan a break! He lives in Madison!

― Calico (calico), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, I have read that tapeworm account before, I think it was MeFi'ed many years ago? But I enjoyed it all over again!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Yacht Rock was all over FRM long ago.

You mean ILX.

But yeah, it's great.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost-The internet isn't delivered to Madison on a regular basis.

I think I got that horror on mefi, yes.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

"enjoyed"

He lives in Madison!

haha

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

WTF is MeFi?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

OH OH OH MetaFilter??

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

You mean ILX

No, I mean FRM.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.frm.com.au/

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

No, I know you mean FRM, but no one reads FRM.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

zing

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

oh snap

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm drinking tea. I want caffeine, but have no Diet Coke and I don't have the patience to make Vietnamese or Turkish coffee, and I have no drip coffee maker, so I'm drinking tea. As usual, it's completely disappointing.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, tea is one suck-ass beverage.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

But Diet Coke isn't disappointing? Diffrent strokes, I guess.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think I've ever read MetaFilter. But back in 2000 I was all about Plastic.com.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Tea is way better than Diet Coke, wtf.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I have seen this movie about Jim Jones. I would like to see that documentary.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I live each moment for the next Diet Coke. Diet Coke is my morning beverage. It's very portable and always satisfies. I love coffee, but it has some drawbacks.

Tea could suck a fuck, but for its caffeine. Except iced tea, which is OK. And sometimes chamomile and peppermint "tea," but also iced.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm having coffee issues at home. I have a big old coffee maker with a carafe, but it's really touchy for some reason. The coffee comes out either way too weak or way too strong, and I never had issues with my old coffee maker.

Then I've got this little "cup at a time" coffee maker, it's got a permanent filter and you actually put your mug under the drip. The coffee is fine but it's messy and, well, it only makes a cup at a time.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Aspartame is nasty and has a heavy, metallic aftertaste.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm about to go make myself a cup of throat coat tea. i like the licorice root/bitter fennel fruit aspect of it.

i have no coffee today. i don't feel right.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse u mad. Hot tea > iced tea. Black tea > herbal tea. Also, I don't do caffeine.

Diet Coke tastes like emptiness.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't HATE tea, but it always leaves me wishing it were better.

Diet Coke in a can, on the point of freezing is like drinking from the teat of a goddess.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Fuck a coffee, I just light up big bluntz in the morning.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Tea is what I drink when I have no time to make coffee. It is good, and I like tea, but it just reminds me that I would rather have coffee.

Speaking of, I'm off to get some coffee. Coffee coffee coffee.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

The Cult of Diet Coke

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Yeh, drinking tea is like marrying the twin whose twin you are actually in love with. Or something like that.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

A manager at Catch told me that he sleep walks and eats, and a few nights ago he ate a couple of slices of pizza and drank 6 cans of Coke in his sleep. I believe him.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Diet Coke is gross. That said, I will drink it if 1) depressed, because it reminds me of my mom and/or 2) it has booze in it.

Tea is the world's beverage. I like it a lot. I also like licorice, caring for dogs, waking up early, mangos and walks on the beach of moderate length.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Maddie used to have coke in the mornings. I don't really drink soda, but when I do it's almost always diet coke (diet vanilla coke RIP).

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Tea is the world's beverage.

Indeed. There's something hideously provincial in not liking tea.

That coke article is interesting. I didn't know all that stuff.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

There's something hideously provincial in not liking tea.

Holy shit, you're being Kenanish again.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

What about walks on beaches of other lengths??

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

No, Kenanish is when I say something that I don't even really believe myself.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Nope, short is pointless and long is boring. Just moderate. I get bored just walking on the beach. If you want to maybe stop for a cup of tea, do some kartwheels on the beach, or write our names in the sand with our toes, that would provide a nice diversion.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

No, Kenanish is when someone gets needlessly haughty.

LOL:

Jen: if i had to eliminate coffee or tea from my life, i would kick tea in the ding dong and never drink it again

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, are the walks of moderate length, or are the beaches? (X-POST: I see.)

The Cult of Tab.

I had a boss who was a Diet Coke fanatic, as in several empty lipstick-stained cans littered around her office at any given time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

YUCK

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

There's something hideously provincial in not liking tea.

Give me a break, I live in Madison.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Tea is versatile -- all the varieties!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't like tea. I also don't dislike tea. I guess I don't really think about it. I can also say I've never had a cup of tea that I could call "good" or "great", but I have had plenty that were underwhelming.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Also: Give me a break, arbiter of taste.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

zing

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse: ding
me: dong

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

all this talk of java has me looking for a new coffee maker.

also, i love overlong, pointless walks on the beach and i miss having an ocean in wintertime to take those walks on.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

ocean in wintertime

I read that as "ocean in wartime" and didn't even think that was weird.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

John, there are lots of different kinds and preparations of meat out there, it's very versatile!

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Our office kitchen has a variety of teas for free but it really DOES matter whether you drink quality tea or crap because the office tea tastes REALLY BAD to me, but tea at home is always just what I wanted. So I submit that it's possible tea-haters aren't drinking the good stuff. Either way, Diet Coke is NASTY.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel pukey. Not. Good.

That said, I love a fine cuppa tea, especially Sleepytime with honey.

John, would you say you are more into downers than uppers? Do you ever drink regular Coke?

― Calico (calico), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

John, do you prefer dolls or meth?

Note: I don't hate tea in the least. In fact, I quite like it, as the drawer full of various kinds of bagged, loose, herbal, and caffeinated tea in our kitchen and the ownership of my very own proper tea pot demonstrates. I just vastly prefer coffee. Coffee is a magical drink.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Coffee is a magical drink.

OTM.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I just vastly prefer coffee. Coffee is a magical drink.

This is indeed true.

But boy, bad coffee is *really* bad. Bad tea is just kinda flat or tinny tasting, but bad coffee... woo. Ashtrays and assholes.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

John, would you say you are more into downers than uppers?

No, I miss coffee terribly. I *loved* the mental/creative stimulation it provided.

My antipathy for Diet Coke is mostly the empty metallic taste. Regular Coke is too syrupy. But I can't drink either, so the point is moot.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Also: Give me a break, arbiter of taste.

I take back "hideously provincial," ok?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the ceremony of tea. The leaves, the little cups, the teapot. It's different than coffee. Coffee is like a strong, fierce hug or a whack on the butt and tea is like cuddling for an extended period of time. Sometimes if you're at work and you want a pick-me-up, tea is not what you're after. But if you seek comfort, tea is what you need.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 27 November 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

That said, every morning I want a strong whack on the butt from my coffee.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 27 November 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

We're the coffee generation. The movers and the shakers.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I kind of feel that tea is a drink, whereas coffee is a food. It's got body, somehow. I dunno.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 27 November 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

No, I miss coffee terribly. I *loved* the mental/creative stimulation it provided.

Also, I prefer the taste of really good coffee to tea. Which is why I drink ROASTAROMA tea every morning.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't drink coffee after 7 pm without being up all night so i've found that i drink a lot of tea at night. especially in winter when i crave a hot beverage on a cold night.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Also good for that: apple cider, hot chocolate.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

True, True. I couldn't fall asleep last night because I had a coffee chiller drink at Filter in the EARLY AFTERNOON.

Due to some health issues, I went without caffeine for two years straight. I lost a lot of weight that way. Also, I developed a taste for Sprite.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 27 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, hot cider with orange and nutmeg is good. with or without booze.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Now, see, I find coffee to be comforting in the way Amanda describes. I attribute this to being the child of two hardcore coffee drinkers. I associate coffee with home and hearth and hospitality.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I lost a lot of weight that way.
I was a big-time Coke drinker before that and didn't like Diet, so I very rarely had soda, just Sprite at the movies.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 27 November 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I strongly prefer cold drinks over hot.

I think Chris "Cuddles" Piuma would have something to say here.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Why is there no DC thread over here? I need to find that Pete Smith character and ask him something about predatory lending.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

'Cause they're N00BS

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

So, what did you all do for Thanksgiving? I ate with my parents and many of their students, and drank a lot of beer. I also went out to the lake a couple of times, took a few pictures, marveled at the amount of new construction in my town, caught up with some old friends, and even mangaged to hang with some of the people I see all the time down here. All in all, a good time. The drive back was easy, too... no traffic to speak of and lots of hunters with deer carcasses (carci?) strapped to their vehicles in interesting ways.

I'm also slightly embarassed re-reading my drunk post upthread.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, also my car sprung a gas leak and is staying in MI for a month. I drove my mom's car back. I hate my car.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, nothing like that after-lunch cup of coffee.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I forgot to go get coffee! Dammit.

Just as well. The Free Terrible Work Coffee is terrible. I'll just wait and get a good cup on the way to class.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

ashtrays and assholes.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't gone back to my local coffee shop since that incident with the cleaning solution in my coffee a few weeks ago, so I'm sticking to free mediocre work coffee. There must be a Better Way.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Cleaning solution? Did you already tell us about this?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.cliffscott.com/Images2/title_entrox.gif

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, no java for me either, i'm so groggy i'm starting to feel like i've been poisoned by carbon monoxide.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

i miss coffee (don't drink it anymore), but i can't stand that roastaroma tea. bleah.

amanda otm about tea being all comforting and cozy.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Monday, 27 November 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, whatever they use to clean the coffee pots hadn't been properly rinsed off or whatever. I didn't really notice until I drank most of my coffee and it was cooling down but I had this overpowering chemical taste in my mouth until the next afternoon, it was gross.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

john, i actually liked diet coca cola zero or whatever it is called before i gave up soda. it tastes like the diet coke in china which tastes better than diet coke here.

― sweet tater, Monday, 27 November 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

A QUESTION

How should I address this in my cover letter? I have really no experience in Photoshop, GoLive or InDesign, but I have many other skills and such that qualify me for this job.

"Knowledge and experience in website design and maintenance, and graphic design, and database management, as well as Adobe GoLive, InDesign and Photoshop or comparable is strongly recommended."

should i even mention it? say that i'm a quick learner? express a willingness to learn these programs on my own time outside of work?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

That half-sugar coke was pretty good, it was nice and fizzy and actually way more thirst-quenching than the full version.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Well, I hate to seem like a spoiled sport, but do you know anything about Photoshop? GoLive? InDesign? Database management? Graphic design? I mean, that's a whole job right there. What else do they want you to do?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

did half-sugar coke have another sweetener in it?

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm having a hard time focusing today . . .

― sweet tater, Monday, 27 November 2006 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, that's one sentence of a lengthy job description and Jesse has database management experience.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

"STRONGLY RECOMMENDED," GODDAMN YOU.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Position Description:
This position is an integral part of xxx’s Publications Department. The Directory Coordinator has several important responsibilities, including but not limited to: managing the day-to-day operations of the Chicago Area HIV Services Directory (both in print and online) and development and maintenance of information resources.

Desired Qualifications:
Applicant should possess at least a high school diploma and Associate’s degree, with strong communications, interpersonal, written and oral skills. Must also have a broad understanding of computers and computer software, including Microsoft Word, Access, Outlook, and Excel. Knowledge and experience in website design and maintenance, and graphic design, and database management, as well as Adobe GoLive, InDesign and Photoshop or comparable is strongly recommended.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

My strategy: Lie your ass off.

xpost "or comparable" ... know anything that is comparable? Dreamweaver?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

NO.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Just curious!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I think that since it's only recommended, but not necessarily required, it might be best to not lie, trump up the experience you do have, and express a keen interest in learning.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Dear Chicago, I need a cut & color BADLY but am close to broke. I love l3anne, but I don't think I can afford her and still have money for christmas pressies. Where can I get a decent head o' highlights for somewhat cheap, aside from trying to do it myself?

Sincerely,
Looking Splotchy

― Calico (calico), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah, maybe try Big Hair? That's where Robin R gets her hair cut and I think it's cheap.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.immutablyme.com/images/lavalife.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, big hair. on roscoe just west of damen.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, *west* of Damen? I thought it closed -- guess it just relocated.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Why did you post a lavalife ad, John?

Urgh. I can't decide. I do like Leanne. Also, I am a Miss Priss because I like having my hair washed and all those little extra posh things. Bbut also, maybe I just can't afford my own standards. Also, Nick gets his hair cut at Big Hair. Bbut also, he's a boy with a basic boy haircut. I think I need to sleep on this one.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Here are some justifications you might be able to use:

1. You only get your hair cut two or three times a year.
2. It's better to go to an expensive stylist you trust than end up with a crappy, cheap haircut that you'll have to pay the expensive stylist to fix anyway.
3. You don't want to make L3anne cry.
4. It's not like you get manicures/massages/pedicures/facials so this if your one splurge is getting a good haircut from someone that you like and trust, NO BIGGIE.
5. A good hair cut is the foundation for a polished and professional look.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

It's true. That and the shoes.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

DEAR JOHN

whore  /hɔr, hoʊr or, often, hʊr/ Pronunciation Key -

Show Spelled Pronunciation[hawr, hohr or, often, hoor


hor‧ri‧ble  /ˈhɔrəbəl, ˈhɒr-/ Pronunciation Key -

Show Spelled Pronunciation[hawr-uh-buhl, hor-]

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course, you might also seek other employment.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha. Thanks, Jenny.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Furthermore:


[aw] all, or, talk, lost, saw

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

My hair is conservative. xpost

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

my hair is libertarian with socialist leanings.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Anytime, Sarah.

Oh and here is a horrible story, in case the justifications weren't enough:

I used to pony up to get a good haircut at a nice salon in Atlanta but then I lost my job so I went to a cheaper place and got a haircut for free by the shampoo guy who was going to hair school and he gave me a TERRIBLE haircut that sent me down the road to haircut ruin that lasted for TWO YEARS. Now you can have my beloved Valerie B when you pry her off my cold, dead hair.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

JESSE there were a lot of boxes in your post, so I don't know what your point is, but I won't let that dissuade me.

I believe we've been over this, actually.

HORRIBLE: h[O with a dot over it]r-[schwa]-b[schwa]l
WHORE: h[O with a dot over it]r

where [O with a dot over it] = like the AW in LAW

There are alternate pronunciations for each word:

HORRIBLE: h[A with a diaresis]r-[schwa]-b[schwa]l
WHORE: h[U with a dot over it]r

where [A with a diaresis] = like the O in MOP or the A in MAR
and [U with a dot over it]r = like the OO in FOOT

But these are both listed second in Webster's, which leads me to stand firm in my belief that HORRIBLE and WHORE have the same vowel sound.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I once got a tiny bangs haircut from a strip mall. Seriously, my bangs were about two inches long and cut straight across. It was NOT a good look for me. Also, it wasn't something you could fix with a little work. I cried for a long time. This happened several years ago and it still gives me nightmares.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 27 November 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

So I was just talking to Jeff on the phone and as I was hanging up, I said, "I LOVE YOU!" and this lady I work with was in the office and she said, "AWWWW! That's so sweet! Does he have a brother?" meaning like for her and I thought that was kind of illogical because she only heard my end of the conversation and for all she knew, Jeff's response could have been, "MY BROTHER AND I VOW BLOOD REVENGE ON ALL WHO DARE TO LOVE US" or something.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Which is crazy because 1) Jeff is an only child and 2) that was his exact response.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I would like a new hairdo, but my hair refuses to cooperate with anyone or anything, least of all my wishes.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Your hair is anarchist.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Screw it! (meaning my flash of a rational thought that I shouldn't spend money on my hair right now) I have an appt with L3anne this Saturday. I mean, for starters, shouldn't my hair be fantastic for the show next Monday and then the Christmas parties and then seeing my fam? Done and done.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

My point is:

horrible = [hawr-uh-buhl, hor-]

[aw] = all, or, talk, lost, saw

So unless "all" or "talk" can be pronounced with the same "o" sound as "whore," then I and the East-Coasters stand validated by dictionary.com.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Peace in the Middle East FFS!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

In which case, Jenny, you're taking an awful risk! You brave thing, you.

(XP)

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I just realized that somehow, some miraculous way, I have managed to take no position on the "horrible" issue at all. No reason to break a streak.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

My hair is a wildly unstable military dictatorship. My people are malnourished, and martial law must be enforced to prevent rioting.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Accents are fun! One of my dad's old grad students was at T-giving. He is from New Zealand but has lived here for 10 years. His accent is almost gone. I remember when I first met him and he said his name (Paul) it sounded like "Pole" -- now it's pretty much gone. Very strange.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

So unless "all" or "talk" can be pronounced with the same "o" sound as "whore"

They are indeed pronounced the same. People get confused by the R, which changes the way you vocalize the sound, but the vowels in HORRIBLE and WHORE and OR are closest to an \AW\ sound than anything else.

The way East Coasters say HORRIBLE and ORANGE is closer to an \AH\ sound.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

New Zealanders only have one vowel.

I bought my grandparents a page-a-day "Bushisms" calendar for Christmas.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

lol @ Jenny & Jeff

whatever the opposite of lol is @ horrible/hawribble

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

zing, and 2x

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

jenny, i was boozing it up with val b on wednesday night.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Neat!

We did establish that this is the same person, right?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Peace in the Middle East FFS!

haha

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

yes we did.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay.

Neat! I want to drink with Val B one of these days.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

last two times i've seen her out were wednesday's at delilah's. a mutual friend tends bar upstairs and has his "wednesday night (action/drinkin'/dance/funtastic) party".

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

good for you, sarah! i was about to suggest a beauty school . . . the aveda institute is here, i can't remember what is in chicago besides pivot point.

also: should i join weight watchers? everyone seems to have a WW opinion. could it be a good thing or do i need to merely exercise more & exercise discipline more?

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never done weight watchers, but it really seems to work for some people. I guess I would try doing whatever you can to motivate yourself first before trying out a program like that.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm trying to use the wedding as a motivating factor in my quest to look/feel better, but what i want is a whole life change. right now i'm just upping the exercise.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 27 November 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

The thing (for me) that sucks about weight watcher's is I'd have to cut out beer. Of course, that's really my problem with every weight-loss idea. IT'S JUST SO TASTY

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

can i justify squeezing it into the core food program because it has wheat?

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Perhaps, but I don't really know how it works. All I know is it's really hard to get below 250 for me... something something cause of something something solution to something something.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

You do not have to cut out beer on Weight Watchers! As a matter of fact, WW and I have such a longstanding relationship exactly because it allows for beer. And, if you plan carefully, lots of it.

I like WW as a program. I do not like WW as a company as they tend to really nickle and dime you the fuck to death. And the last six or eight meetings I've been to ended up nothing more than hour-long sales pitches for more WW products.

Getting all that shiny new WW stuff tends to motivate me, though, and there is a benefit to the camaraderie of the meetings.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Whatever you do, don't become one of those creepy "calorie restricted diet" people who think that starvation will help them live longer. Those people give me the willies.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Like I said, I've never done WW, so I am probably making stuff up. But it seems to me that there is a point system involved, requiring you to look up how many points each food item counts towards your daily allowance. Being a sister of a former eating disorder victim (well, she didn't die, but it was baaaad), I am wary of anything that makes me pay THAT much attention to what I am eating and when. Even keeping a food diary for the Self challenge a while back made me kind of nutso and paranoid. Also, I got incredibly fainty just taking in their recommended calorie cap. I think it's best to try to change your diet and exercise practices for the better in general and try to keep them that way. So I try to eat fairly heathily and walk alot and go to the gym, but I do not count calories or look up points, etc.

HOWEVER, just because I am paranoid of becoming overly obsessed with food, does not mean it is a dangerous program for anyone else.

For example, what Jenny said.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

do you do "points" or "core foods"? also, is it enough to 'join' online or do you benefit greatly from going to meetings?

i'm with you, amanda. i promise i won't. there's no danger of it ever happening, really.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Because let me be the first to say that you're lookin' real good now and I would hate to see you in a couple of months looking all Skeletor.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Amanda OTM.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

According to the WW site, they now have a new "No Counting" plan.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

http://mattpreskenis.com/blog/uploaded_images/count-732896.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

See y'all later, I'm off to work the night shift at Truman.

Gonna be some sweet sounds [sweeeeet soooounds], comin' down
on
the
night shift

ooooh on the night shift

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

See y'all later, I'm off to work the night shift at Truman.

At first I thought this was about Otto's local.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

you are both very sweet to say such things. i know i'm not overweight, but i'm pretty darn close (according to my BMI). I just don't feel as sexy as i have when i've taken better care of myself. it's really more about that. that, and i want to look like a ripped ho for my wedding.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah is correct - you get a "points" allowance for the day plus an extra 35 that you can spread around throughout the week (hence, beer - 3 pts for regular, 2 pts for light). If you exercise, you can add "activity points" to your daily allotment so that means that when you exercise, you can eat more.

Points are calculated based on some complicated algorithm that looks at fat, fiber, and calories and while you do have to look things up at first, it starts to become second nature after awhile. For example, while I am technically not "on program" right now, I happen to know that I've eaten 14 points so far today, including the apple I'm going to eat during class tonight, leaving me 8 for dinner.

I have successfully done WW on line and using meetings, so it really depends on what fits into your schedule. I find meetings to be more palatable when I go with someone I like, but that can backfire, too (see Courtney and I enabling some v. bad food practices for each other) so, yeah.

I think that the potential for exacerbating food obsession is pretty accurate, but if you've got a handle on that kind of thing going into it, you should be okay. Sometimes, like now, I can't handle life stress plus keeping track of everything I eat, especially when I don't have a lot of time for cooking/packing lunch, but I have generally been pleased with WW.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, just how in the hell am I considered obese? I'd believe overweight, but the NIH BMI calculator has just ruined my day... Time to head to the vomitorium.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

The "no counting" plan is their "Core" plan, which means you can eat whatever you want on the "core foods list" without counting it as long as you're not sitting down and eating like, ten avocados at once. You can eat non-core foods, but you have to count them. So you get a free pass for core foods, and 35 points for beer. Er, I mean, non core foods. I have a hard time with the core plan, even though I tend to eat core-ish-ly, because it's just a little too much of a restriction for me. And, as sad as I am to admit it, because frozen dinners aren't core and I kind of rely on those to keep any sort of control over my weight during busy finals time.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

35 points per week, that is.

Dan, you're too groovy to let a stupid calculator ruin your day.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I am barely inside of the "normal weight" range.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i have a diet that will work.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

BUT AT WHAT COST, KEVIN?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

PUH LEEZE, I'm sure I quality as obese, which just goes to show how insanely stupid those charts are.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Err, *qualify. I always quality.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

monitarily? prolly cheaper than WW licensed stuff.

xpost to jenny.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Expect nothing less than the best.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Shore nuff! I'm like .2 away from obesity, and while I might be carrying a little extra junk these days it's hardly evidence of our national epidemic. So whatev.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not even putting my numbers in that thing until I recover from Thanksgiving and finals week.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

where's the calculator?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm overweight, no surprise there.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

not surprisingly, i am off the charts underweight.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

lator gators, i'm off to pick up keys in berwyn.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

My BMI is currently 21.7. Just to compare, it was 33.9 when I was at my heaviest.

WW is great. I've lost 90 pounds on it in the last 4 years.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, i just ordered some books on amazon about vegan/vegetarian diets. much akin to the "core program" but this will work out better for me. i really want to be able to do 'something' i can stick with for the rest of my life. that, and when i was vegan for 9 months i felt fantastic & was skinnier & slept the best in all my life.


jeff - you are really amazing! seriously! that is a major accomplishment.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, that's awesome. I think I'm Captain Restraint if I lose ten pounds.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd have to lose about 20 to be in the normal range.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

if i am indeed 5'6" instead of 5'5" i am totally fine. otherwise, i need to lose just one bitty pound. but i don't like being 'on the edge' . . .

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 27 November 2006 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd have to lose almost 40 lbs and get down to a weight that I haven't been since I was unemployed and almost-homeless and starving. That's just not helpful.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 27 November 2006 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Julia's gmail status got me singing the Talking Heads all darn day. Good thing I like that song...

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

otherwise we would all be TASTING YOUR NAKED WRATH

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 27 November 2006 23:14 (seventeen years ago) link

me too. but i like it. i've been grumpy and needed it.

xp oh no!

i think i'm normal weight, which is good for me--i've been on both edges in the past, more recently the underweight one.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Monday, 27 November 2006 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link

That probably sounded more threatening that I intended. When I first saw your status, I was like, "I know what that is..." Then I got to spend a few minutes figuring it out and then when I remembered, I was actually DELIGHTED because I love that whole album and haven't thought about it in ages. So, I guess what I mean to say Julia, is thank you very much.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

According to that calculator business I'm just this side of overweight, and I lost 20 lbs in the last few months. Does the calculator take in to account the fact that one might be TOTALLY JACKED?

― Jordannn, Monday, 27 November 2006 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

(not that I am, I'm just sayin)

― Jordannn, Monday, 27 November 2006 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

let's line up by BMI.

or not.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Monday, 27 November 2006 23:28 (seventeen years ago) link

and you're welcome, jenny.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Monday, 27 November 2006 23:29 (seventeen years ago) link

One of the biggest criticisms of BMI measurement is that it does not, indeed, take into account the fact that someone may be totally jacked. It also isn't necessarily a measure of health - just of the relationship between your weight and height.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 27 November 2006 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, well then! BMI can kiss my un-obese ass, there's muscle in them thar hills.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link

While at work I argued with John in my mind.

I won't contest John's arguments--no lo contendre, or something. But I will say that it's nonsense to say that the accent of a fair-sized area is a mispronunciation. "Whore" and "horrible" are NOT pronounced the same if you are from certain parts of the East Coast.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 05:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Best email I've received in a while, but unfortunately I am not (yet) at liberty to reveal the identity of the sender....

I went to the gyno to get an IUD today and they couldn't even get the tool to measure my uterus through my cervix cause it's too goddamn tough....what the fuck is that shit? They had to call in backup and then when the second PA couldn't do it either they were like..."Ummm, have you thought about birth control pills?"...goddamn my cervix, it's like a fucking maximum security prison up in that bitch.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 05:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i am probably still a little underweight even though i have put on about 30 pounds since my smallest weight. however, i do feel that i should exercise or eat less because i am so used to being too skinny.

― t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 06:09 (seventeen years ago) link

"Whore" and "horrible" are NOT pronounced the same if you are from certain parts of the East Coast.

I agree with this. This isn't what you said to me the other night, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 06:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Unless I was misunderstanding you, you claimed that WITHOUT an East Coast accent, "whore" and "horrible" STILL are pronounced differently.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 06:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Note: The IUD email was not from me.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Or me! Not it!

I can't calculate my BMI because I haven't weighed myself in a very long time. Maybe I will tonight at the gym. I tend to avoid doing that to try instead to focus on FEELING healthy, but I guess it would be good to know where I stand, to the extent BMI could tell me.

Dan, don't you work out all the time? Pure muscle, baby.

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

email wasn't mine either, my cervix is like the size of a garage door.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Unless I was misunderstanding you, you claimed that WITHOUT an East Coast accent, "whore" and "horrible" STILL are pronounced differently.

No, ding-dong, I was not the one who brought it up. We were sitting at Ricochet's having a normal conversation when suddenly, out of nowhere, you said "PEOPLE FROM THE EAST COAST PRONOUNCE "HORRIBLE" WRONG--IT IS NOT PRONOUNCED HAHRRIBLE OMIGOD OMIGOD.

In a way it was a blessing that you did this because it was then that Krista did something that will make being your friend much easier: she started going "EEEEEEEEEEEEE" at you, which seemed to either sooth you or otherwise make you want to stop ranting.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought it was "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA."

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

We really shouldn't try to guess the pronunciation without consulting John first.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

http://ctabustracker.com

How about that.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I have no idea who brought it up, but that's not the point.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

(or maybe AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA)

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

"PEOPLE FROM THE EAST COAST PRONOUNCE "HORRIBLE" WRONG," Said John.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

said John

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry Jesse, I'd love to stay and chat, but I have to go to work now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Everyone, get over it.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan, don't you work out all the time?

Once upon a time (like a year and a half ago), yes. I had been back at the cardio for a couple of months lately but injury, poorness, and malaise put an end to it for the better part of November.

Yeah, cram a sock in it, you whores.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

(How are you pronouncing whores there, Dan? hee hee)

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, cram a sock in it, you whores.

Was that directed at me and John?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

That bus tracker... it's a miracle! I think Heath takes the Madison bus. I wonder if he knows about this?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Amy Sedaris is going to be signing her wonderful book I Like You: Hospitality Under the Influence" at 7 PM at the Borders on N. Michigan Avenue. I plan on being there to watch as Courtney gets her copy signed, and most likely get a signed copy for myself. If you would like to join us, then come on.

http://www.amysedarisrocks.com/images/ilikeyou/intro1.jpg

http://www.amysedarisrocks.com/images/ilikeyou/intro2.jpg

http://www.amysedarisrocks.com/images/ilikeyou/intro3.jpg

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Another fine email, from a different person who shall remain nameless.

I think I might love you, Jesse. Can we maybe have each others’ babies before my bio clock is done turning round? I’ve got a good decade, maybe — no rush.

This may contain confidential material. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, delete immediately, and understand that no disclosure or reliance on the information herein is permitted. We may monitor email to and from our network.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

From the Introduction to I Like You:

"I can't write good, but I can cook even better...."

?Even though the word "entertainment" is commonly used today, to me it sounds charmingly old-fashioned, like courtship or back-alley abortion."


― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I want a Broadway bus tracker! Global bus tracker implementation might just be enough to bring me into the Blackberry world.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought the signing was Friday??

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

a western ave bus tracker would save me the decision of "do i get off at western & congress and wait for anywhere between 1 and 40 minutes with the local gang bangers or do i ride the extra 20 minutes through the loop to division or damen and walk?"

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

she started going "EEEEEEEEEEEEE" at you, which seemed to either sooth you or otherwise make you want to stop ranting.

I find this hilarious for some reason.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

It was.

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

The book signing is Wednesday. I was wrong.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a huge zit on my nose, the kind that could stick around for awhile. I'd rather that I didn't.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Zit kills thread dead.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Get back here.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

OKAY FINE STAY AWAY.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The most hilarious thing about the sonic conditioning is it makes Krista look like a fucking awesome genius. Either she's done it before, in which case she's a fucking genius, or she's so nuts that it was the first loony thing that occurred to her to distract John in public, in which case she's awesome.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

:(

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Was that directed at me and John?

You whores better believe it was.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Seeing the sonic conditioning LIVE IN PERSON was what I imagine watching Dog Behaviorist Cesar Milan in action would be like. Jesse and I tried making a buzzing noise that is fun to make when people are trying to bowl but that didn't work.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I am starting to feel kind of down but I think it's just because I'm sleepy, kind of hungry, bored to death, and f'n lazy.

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Can we stop pretending that the anonymous person Jesse keeps quoting isn't Courtney?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I put a few photos from my trip home on my flickr page (sorry Ottoman). They're of my family's cottage and mostly feature me and/or my mom standing around.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Wasn't that a given? It's not so much "pretending" as "ignoring".

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

It isn't Courtney.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

You buncha know-nothing know-it-alls.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I bet my cousin and his bf will be at the Amy Sedaris reading.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't get "Lance Rock." Is it a made-up homo name?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Sounds like a POWER NAME to me.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

He is a Beyond the Valley of the Dolls character.

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

My BMI is normal. Not high or low, just normal. 20.1
WEREN'T YOU JUST DYING TO KNOW MY BMI?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

You know, like Lance Loud + Rock Hudson.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

John: Homer, what have you got against gays?

Homer: You know! It's not... usual. If there was a law, it'd be against it!

Marge: Oh Homer, please! You're embarrassing yourself.

Homer: No I'm not, Marge! They're embarrassing me. They're embarrassing America. They turned the Navy into a floating joke. They ruined all our best names like Bruce, and Lance, and Julian. Those were the toughest names we had!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Lance Rock, in action:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/adamfrapp/stills/doll17.jpg

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Z-Man's senior picture:

http://www.filmsinreview.com/Images/z-man.jpg

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

http://fourfour.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/kelly_eyes2.gif

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

(xp) Holy hail, who is that?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.filmsinreview.com/Images/z-man.jpg http://www.cutty.org/beach.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Who is that?

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it still considered meta-humor if we're not actually on ilx?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

What's the haps? I'm bored.

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm in class and they are setting up a video called "Revitalizing the Lawyer-Poet: What Lawyers Can Learn from Rock and Roll" and I am not optimistic.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

beach.jpg = Cutty

No idea who the first dude is.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

As a matter of fact, whatever good will I started with today is slowly unraveling with every continued second of this movie.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

"I'm not familiar with your ROCK AND ROLL."

http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/4180/copyofcavemanlawyer22ku.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Plus this movie used Bill Clinton and Alberto motherfucking Gonzales as examples of why attorneys are well-suited professionally and ethically to serve as leaders.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

HA!

Nick just called but there was a meeting going on behind me (glass walls and they never shut the door) AND a guy came in for another meeting. Way to ruin my personal life, folks! I'm trying to gab on the phone here!

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Also the narrator makes Peter Francis Geraci look like John Stewart. He makes Ben Stein look like... somebody much more excitable than Ben Stein.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Richard Simmons.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Here are some choice quotes from the film:

"Like rock, legal work is full of power and passion."

"Like rock troubadours, we are doing our job. We are at the same time stewards of the establishment and it's demanding critics."

"The democratic vision of rock and roll is a tough one for lawyers, but if we want to rock, it's got to be part of the package."

These quotes were illustrated with in-concert clips of Jimi Hendrix. After the movie, a student asked, "Did this movie just tell us that if we do drugs, we'll be better lawyers?"

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Special thanks to Dan Martin for staying on IM with me during my time of need.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/images/bigUps_01.jpg

right back at 'cha

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

ha! lawyer-poet.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Can someone please recommend some other radio programs I could download that are like TAL but not TAL? Is there such a thing? I listened to the finalists of the Third Coast Fest. on Thanksgiving, and that was pretty fun, they were good, but I was wondering if there is more stuff out there that I could download or buy individual eps or something. You know, for pedagogical purposes.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess Car Talk wouldn't qualify, huh? I love Car Talk. but I don't even know if you can download it.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Fun facts about attorneys:

* 15-18% of attorneys will have substance abuse problem vs. 10% of general population.
* Over 1/3 of attorneys say they are dissatisfied and would choose another profession if they could.
* Attorneys have the highest rates of depression and suicide of any profession.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Amanda! How timely! Someone on another board just recommended this program: http://www.wnyc.org/shows/radiolab/

I haven't listened to it yet but I'm gonna.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

aw, Jenny! you shall be a happy attorney, though!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Eh, not Car Talk. I want "interesting stories" that "stimulate conversation." Documentary radio.

xp - Higher than dentists?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Kelsey to thread, obv.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

npr.org has muchos podcastos, Armando.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Here's a good place to start, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok. Thankee. I need some new material. I didn't think I would run out so quickly, but I'm losing steam.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

That wasn't a link to Cartalk, just FYI. It's to a program call Radio Lab:

Radio Lab® is an investigation. Each episode is a patchwork of people, sounds, stories and experiences centered around One Big Idea. On RadioLab, science bumps into culture... information sounds like music.

Radio Lab is designed for listeners who demand skepticism but appreciate wonder, who are curious about the world but who also want to be moved and surprised.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

StoryCorps

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, I have never gotten a haircut in Chicago and I desperately need one. any recommendations?

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

not surprisingly, no.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Sound Portraits

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

YES MA'AM: Sine Qu@ Non S@lon and the Notorious Valerie B.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

yay! I kiss you, Jenny!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

OR: Leanne at ORBIT SAL0N, hairdresser to the stars (and by the stars I mean me, Sarah, Kelsey, and Amanda).

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

As much as people hate on hipsters, a lot of them are pretty hot.
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), September 1st, 2005.

― Words of Wisdom (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

i feel stupid asking, but what is a muffeletta?
i keep thinking it's a fancy italian trim for a woman's pubes or something.

-- kelsey (kelstarr...), September 1st, 2005.

― More Words of Wisdom (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

merkins

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, I just made an appointment for tomorrow. and I told them you referred me, Jenny. yay!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

An old snaggletoothed barmaid in Berkeley, Calif., took no small delight in describing to me what a merkin was.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, I just made an appointment for tomorrow. and I told them you referred me, Jenny. yay!

I'm bummed I couldn't keep the domino effect going. :(

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

domino effect? I didn't see your post about Orbit Sal0n until after I made the appointment, John. but if I ever get my hair cut again, I will totally try it. Chicago, all of you whom I have met have lovely hair and I completely trust your recommendations.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

You are missing out on http://myspace-290.vo.llnwd.net/01038/09/24/1038244290_m.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

pretty!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

(Leanne is friends with my brother's ex. Therefore my brother sees her [or at least he did when he lived in Chicago]. Therefore I see her. Therefore Kelsey sees her. Therefore several of Kelsey's and my friends see her. Etc.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

My hair used to be that color. :(
I am experiencing red hair envy lately.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Since I see you so rarely, I still picture you with red hair.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Hehe. In a way I sort of feel like I grew out of it, but sometimes I miss it.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

The ugly downside to the dyeing-hair-red equation is the prospect of becoming Crazy Old Lady Who Dyes Her Hair Red, a la Judy Baar Topinka. Or worse. I chose dignity.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I love red hair. what color is yours now, Amanda?

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

my roommate got her hair cut at orbit by some guy who had been recommended to her--now she rolls out of bed with her hair looking great, it's crazy. so another recommendation for orbit.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

The hair is currently a dignified brown. Dark brown. My natural color. With dyed red hair there is the constant feeling of knowing that the hair is not real, that there are people who have beautiful, thick, lovely, naturally red hair and that I am NOT and will never be one of them. It feels vaguely shameful for some reason. At least after 10 years it did.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I get that. though one of my friends dyes her hair red, and people are constantly shocked she's not a natural redhead.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

People said that to me too! It didn't change the fact that I was not a natural redhead.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

(XPOST) Yeah, and since I met you when you had red hair -- which never once looked obviously dyed -- your current shade still looks unnatural to me!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i lurve red heads, always have.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Even fake ones?

John, I meant to tell you and/or Kr. that I like her new hair color. Looks very nice on her. I'm not sure how "new" it is, but it's very flattering.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I'll tell her! It's a couple months old. (Gmail sez Sept. 22.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, even the fake ones. if it's not too shitty on saturday i'm gonna get some coffee and go down to michigan ave and do some people watching.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I toy with the idea of dying my hair but then I think about upkeep and then I just leave it.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I used to fuck with my hair all the time -- bleaching it, dying it magenta or blue, making it spikey, shaving it completely (you all remember the last time I did that). None of those things made me prettier.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

It's very much like an addiction. Don't do it. I got very accustomed to a technicolor version of myself and now, without it, I always feel hopelessly mousy. It's worse than meth*!

*I know nothing about how bad meth is.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

ALERT: Fishport on Jackson is closed. La Cocina and Chicken Planet are unaffected, thank god.

http://static.flickr.com/110/308809561_381640ba37.jpg

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Meth mouse.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I hate hemroidal. It's a stupid story, but basically it goes like this:
* I was in charge of ordering beverages for the office
* bossman decided it was too expensive
* Hemroid was given the new duty of driving to costco to buy drinks instead
* I told her over a week ago we were almost out of diet coke
* In the meantime, we've also run out of bottled water
* She storms in today and is accosted by a bunch of people at once, "We need water! We need water!"
* She glares at me and says, "Sarah! You did not tell me we were out of water."
* I say, "I told you when we were almost out of diet coke. I figured you'd ask me what else we needed before you went to costco."
CATFIGHT!
See? Wasn't that story boring and uninteresting? I tried to warn you.

Anyway, screw her.

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The Charlie Brown Christmas Special comes on TV tonight. YAY CHRISTMAS SPECIALS!

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Basically, it's my fault that everyone is getting dehyrdrated because they are too good for tap water, even though it's not my responsibility to get the drinks any more.

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Interesting videos showing how cocaine is made. There's a lot of gasoline involved, and one chicken gets its head pulled off.

http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/56553

(Click 1 and 2 for the video)

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi, I read MetaFilter too.

(well, I used to, before every single FPP was commented "not worthy of FPP, already seen this, etc etc etc.)

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah, you should invite then to taste the crisp, clean goodness that is Lake Michigan. Make sure you use those key marketing words.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I toy with the idea of dying my hair but then I think about upkeep and then I just leave it.

i used to henna my hair, or do red highlights sometimes. it was great fun, but fuck upkeep.

and fuck the uptight people at sarah's work.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

If Lake Michigan is "crisp" and "clean" down here, I'll eat my own shit.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

DM OTM re MeFi

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I have never wondered how cocaine is made, but I have always assumed that it involved getting some blood on your hands.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

If Lake Michigan is "crisp" and "clean" down here, I'll eat my own shit.

And if you drink from Lake Michigan, that's just what you'll be doing? Ba dum bump.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

That question mark really fucks up my joke.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost "down here" = out in front of Gary/Chicago/Milwaukee

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

There was a mess o' litter in the river this mornin'.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the nutcases who live out in the desert where it doesn't rain are stealing Lake Superior. There was a movement underway a few years ago to build this huge pipeline out of Minnesota to carry water down to Arizona and shit where people just really shouldn't be living in huge numbers because they depleted the aquifer. The plans got squashed but when I was up at the lake on Saturday the water level was down about a foot and a half to two feet from last year. It's kind of scary.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Lake levels vary I think. I read something in the Reader about how the Great Lakes remain protected under an old international something or other.

When I worked on the boat (on Lk Mich) the water was at varying levels around the pilings and the boat sat at different heights day to day. It's normal.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't really think people are taking the water, but I have been going to this same spot on the lake for 10 years and built a dock on it and can see the lines from where the water was vs. where it is now. The lakes have tides of a couple inches but something big has to happen to make it fluctuate a few feet in a year. Maybe lighter rain/snowfall, warmer temps, I don't know, but this is more than I've ever seen.

For example:

http://static.flickr.com/121/308658204_05a118cc6d.jpg

So here's the dock we built, you can kind of see the lines on the wood from the previous year's lake level. The horizontal boards are just above where the water was when we built it in 2001. I'm just saying it's weird and kind of freaked me out. Global warming/climate change/etc.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry for killing thread

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I was at Tokyo Lunchbox.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, I can honestly say that I miss that place now that I don't work across the street from one. I have found, however, that Annie Chung's instant udon is a fine substitute if I add a little chili-sesame oil to make it SPICY.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I just remembered: I dreamed last night that I was friends with Lindsay Lohan. It was great. We were just beginning to be friends and were excited about laughing together. She seemed a little oblivious of her own fame, though. I forget where we were, but Ed1th F. was across the room, and I kept trying to explain to LiLo that she was infinitely more famous than Ed1th. I was like, "You're sponsored by Blockbuster Video!" She was all fresh-faced, with wet hair.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Then you did mountains of coke.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

No, that was the thing. She was as skinny as she is now, but she wasn't all skank-a-rific or anything.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, fantasy.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

My ipod chopped & screwed something last night. I was listening to the N.O.R.E./Neptunes track and it was running out of power, but instead of turning off it seriously started playing the song at half tempo. In time, intelligible, just sloooowww. It was sweet as hell. Has that happened to anyone else?

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.spacecast.com/images/News/blog_xanadu_rdax_386x211.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

That's awesome, Jordan.

Btw, I liked the zaftig LiLo, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't experienced that, but I discovered that if you shake my iPod a little you can hear something rolling around inside of it. Still works fine though. 3G WHAT??!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan, I'm thinking about making you a mix of post-rock stuff I think you'd like.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Like what?

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Directions in Music, Papa M, Tristeza, Do Make Say Think, Pullman, Dirty Three, Tortoise, Jim O'Rourke, Kaki King, Gastr Del Sol, Idyll Swords, Tara Jane O'Neil, etc. etc.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Cool. I'd love a copy too.

(Do Make Say Think blows though)

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Boo. "Goodbye Enemy Airship" is my jam.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm all about it, but just so's you know I already have two Tristeza recordz.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Also did I push the C0ugar record on you already? I really love it. The 0ptimistic is opening for them at the end of January, and I think they're going back to the Bottle too.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Good to know, Dan. Actually, I have zero -- but it seemed like something you would like! (My brother used to have a copy of Spine and Sensory.)

I still have only heard Cougar on MySpace, but I remember enjoying it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I've got that one and their next one. I saw them tour for that record and play at MichFest in 1999 or so. A whole day of hardcore bands with them in the middle and the stage all lit up blue. It was great.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

A coworker lent me a DMST record last year and it was kind of jam-bandy and loose, with two really boring drummers. I don't remember what record it was though.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I have two. The one I like best is & Yet & Yet.

JorCoh: Have you heard Mice Parade?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't heard most of those other bands though, just Tortoise and a couple of tracks from Directions in Music and Durrty Three.

xpost, nope, or them

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Lately I have been big loving Explosions in the Sky, Mercury Program, the new Six Parts Seven record, and the Appleseed Cast double album while at work.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Here's a good article on Mice Parade. I only have Mokoondi, an album that's based around the cheng (Chinese harp).

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I would like copies of all mixes, please. But you can save yourself a CD by just YSIing since I'll just rip the tracks and put the CD in a drawer somewhere anyway.

I like & Yet & Yet.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

A post-rock mix would be super nice because I could listen whilst studying.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Dan asked me yesterday to recommend him some post-rock so he could listen at work without being too distracted.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Words are annoying me lately.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

SACRAMENTO = AROMA SCENT

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Mice Parade sounds like something I might like.

Winter Hymn Country Hymn was the DMST record I heard.

I can't listen to music while working/reading anymore, it's all too distracting.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yeah, Winter Hymn is just okay.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I have been enjoying some Derek Bailey and Steffan Basho-Jurgen (sp?) for relaxin' times/working/writing. No words, no distracting tempo, just vaguely melodic geetarin'. But not DISTRACTINGLY melodic. I got to the point where I found Discreet Music distractingly melodic. After that it was pure silence for a while.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

People on ILM always talk about Derek Bailey. I assumed he was free jazz...?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

free euro-prov

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, kinda, but he just plays guitar. The stuff that I have is definitely not squawky -- more noodly.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Ew.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

The Arbiter of Taste has spoken.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

When I'm really really really into the studies I like The Disintegration Loops. Soooooothing.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

The Arbiter of Taste has spoken.

Notice how I'm keeping it brief today.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

xp I'd like to hear that.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not noodly like STEVE VAI or whatever -- just, well, nevermind. Maybe noodly isn't the right word. May you all be soothed. I'm outta here.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I've wanted to hear the Disintegration Loops for a while now, too.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

"Meditative" is probably the word I want.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

One of my coworkers just asked if I'd be passing by any mailboxes after work to mail her personal bill. I just stared at her. I mean, sure, I'll be riding around in the car to go to the grocery store, but how is it any easier for me to find a mailbox for her mail? Riddle me that, batman.

I'm pumped for grocery shopping. FOOD!

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Btw, if anyone's bored tonight, CANOOOOSTA* is playing The Note at approx. 9:30 PM.

*what we're called by this gentleman: http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:AEIHxTvvogGdaM:http://www.chicagoundergroundcomedy.com/images/comics/rb_md.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I kind of doubt I'll be there, but I'm really curious to hear how it goes. We had a show at the Note fall through (or did we turn it down? hmm... no, the other band cancelled their tour) but I've noticed lots of bigger (hey! 'Nasta!) bands playing there lately.

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Br1an Peters0n started booking there.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Is he mpsh0wz?

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha. I just got a myspace event for another show at the note this week.

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Yes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I only say I doubt it because it's a school night (haha) and Nick has been feeling sick and sleepy all day, but Mmaaaaayyybbbeee. Also, I like B0und Stems alot. I hadn't heard of the middle band. I just don't want to get your hopes up because I am often crushed when people say they're coming to my shows and then don't, you know?

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sorry, Sarah. I have done that to you a lot.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Yes. I was just bringing it up to fulfill my promo obligations, so do what you need to do. :)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

WHOA. Alert for realz:

Northbound Loop Red Line Service Interrupted -- Update 4:24 p.m.
Due to defective rail equipment at the Jackson Red Line subway station, northbound Red Line trains are being rerouted onto the elevated structure between the Roosevelt and Fullerton stations. Northbound Red Line trains will make station stops as follows:

Roosevelt (elevated/Green, Orange lines);

All stations along Wabash and Lake; and

Merchandise Mart (Brown Line), then trains will run express to Fullerton (Red/Brown lines) to resume regular northbound routing to Howard (Red/Purple/Yellow lines).

Customers are encouraged to use alternate service in the area. Please allow extra travel time.

Southbound Red Line service is not affected.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Um, go Blue?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

That sucks, ya'll. Less for me because I'll be at the library until 9 pm or so and can just take a bus without worrying about traffic or whatever but still. What a flipping mess.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm taking the Blue Line to Damen. Haven't decided yet whether I'm going to dine at Earwax or Sultan's for din-din.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Really, come to think of it, the Blue line is the only train that's NOT going to be affected. This is going to be a cluster fuck!

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah aside from maybe some extra people in Clark/Lake... the Jackson St. transfer will be a bitch, too.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

This sucks a big one.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish I didn't have to study. I would advocate a spontaneous Thirsty Tuesday to kill time while the CTA sorts this shit out.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I'll trot up to Mich Ave and jump on one of the express busses that stops at the Berwyn station. I think if I'm not mistaken that I can get on the 144, 146, or 147.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi guys!

I'm coming to Chicago between XMAS and New Year's.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Alright! I have the whole week off. We'll spend every minute together, I'm sure.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll be in town Dec. 22 - 24

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

WELL Jeff and I will be out of town from 12/22 - 12/26. Imagine that.

Jon Williams, I'll hang out with you.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 23:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay Jon! I have missed you the last couple times I've been in NYC.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 23:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I would be a fool not to meet Jon Williams.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 23:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to meet Jess, too. His girlfriend just moved here.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know if I will be here, but I probably will be. Thirsty Thursday Holiday Edition in fuckin' full effect.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 23:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i just bought a ticket that will have me back in chicago jan 19th - 24th and then on to NYC for a few days.

― grady (grady), Tuesday, 28 November 2006 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I can only handle one cat at a time, I have decided. Maybe if I got two kittens at the same time, the dynamics would be different, but Jessa's cat and mine are not getting along well at all. And they even lived together for YEARS. That's irrelevant, it seems -- it's all about territory. My kitty is terrorizing Jessa's kitty. Her territory is marked, and the hissing and snarling begin every time she sees the other cat walking in her path. Most of the time, Jessa's cat sits on top on the kitchen cabinets, which is a fine high perch for a cat, but only today did I realize that she's sitting up there because she's scared of a cat who has already marked all the other territory in the apartment. This is *exactly* the way Jesse's (not Jessa's) behaved when I brought my cat in. At the time I blamed Jesse's cat, because I didn't know any better, I guess. And sure, my cay was being victimized somewhat. But that's just what cats do.

My cat is locked in the bedroom, and Jessa's cat has suddenly decided to eat, shit, and let me pet her for the first time since she got here. This does not bode well for the next month. UNLESS, maybe, Jessa's cat can mark enough territory while my cat is locked away that they'll have some equal ground. I'm going to leave her in there until bed tonight and see if this helps the situation any.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 02:47 (seventeen years ago) link

My shoulder kind of hurts from Wii Tennis. But Wii Tennis is REALLY FUN.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 04:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I should be in bed but I have to shower first...and that seems like too much work. So I'm just sitting here, instead.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh god I feel like shit. So tired, sneezy, achy and my feet hurt. And I have an ingrown toenail. And I need a haircut.

Kenan, you should let Brenda come over for a while and see what that yields.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 06:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, you should let Brenda come over for a while and see what that yields.

Really, thanks, but I can't imagine that would help.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 06:13 (seventeen years ago) link

My shoulder kind of hurts from Wii Tennis. But Wii Tennis is REALLY FUN.

Oh shit you have to hook me up.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 06:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Who do you know? Would he like me? Would he sell me weed?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 06:15 (seventeen years ago) link

COULD I BE ANY MORE OBNOXIOUS?

ok, bed.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 06:21 (seventeen years ago) link

speaking of new year's does anyone have any concrete plans? i know jeff was talking about some show (at the bottle maybe?) but anyone have any set in stone plans?

last year i went to a party with a bunch of early 20 somethings in suits and wound up leaving before midnight when my date's sinus meds made her loopy after her 3rd drink. the year before that me and jen sat in our apartment in bitter silence as we'd broken up days before but were still living together. i'd like to have fun this year for a change.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

So, I was watching Capote before falling asleep and then I dreamed I was hanging out with Nick, Sarah, and I think Dan at the Green M1ll. This dude was annoying Sarah but she was packing heat and decided to SHOOT him (in cold blood). She also skinned her elbow but we managed to get out of there before the cops showed up and rendezvous at some other bar. Then we were all on the lam Franke Machine-style and some other stuff happened and I woke.

Honestly, kinda disturbing.

― J-Co, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

the next time i'm heading south on ashland i'm totally going to take a detour to ashland & maypole and see if there is a bar or a building that may have once house a club like the one frankie took refuge in while on the lam.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, that makes me love Sarah. I will just pretend she actually carries, and enjoy the dissonance.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

That's just awesome.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.only80s.com/tn_GUN_JPG.jpg

Nick and I were watching Big Love last night on dvd, and there's this scene where a little girl is in her living room at night and turns on the porch light and a creepy dude is standing RIGHT THERE. Anyway, of course that gave me nightmares because everything does. So I had one in which people kept breaking in the windows to our apartment like zombies, except really tall and strong zombies. It was not fun. I didn't shoot anyone, but I think I tried to punch them to no avail.

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Shoot their heads off next time!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, Laurel. I'll just think about guns as I fall asleep every night to remind myself.

Nickelbags & I will be out of town 12/22-12/30, but ready to party after that.

Otto, I don't have any plans for New Years yet. Last year, we played a show at the Icefac0rial which was a blast, but we haven't been invited to play any new years shows this go-round. What to do? What to do? I like getting dressed up but don't have much mula for party cover charges.

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i had a dream that i was on the el going through the loop. it was a crowded train and i couldn't get to the doors in time at my stop so i rode the train around the loop and everytime i tried to get where i was going something would block me. it was frustrating.


more manifestations of unattainable goals.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Joooohhhhnnnn, HOW WAS THE SHOW?

On a promo kick...
http://static.flickr.com/104/298218268_d9b37ff616_m.jpg

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Who made the call to break it up "sho-pping" instead of the hugely more obvious "shop-ping"??? Assuming it was intentional, that's pretty funny.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I generally don't like going out on New Years. Everything is crowded and it's the original "amateur night" and even though about this time of the year I'm thinking it might be fun to do something elaborate that involves dressing up and getting all glittery, by the time the holiday rolls around, I'm usually so tired from the holidays that I just want to stay in the house and hide. And it seems like most of the NYEs that I've tried to do something elaborate have failed in whimpering ways similar to Kevin's date's sinus med loopiness.

Good NYEs of the past: GBV show, drinking wine and playing trivial pursuit and watching Cirque du Soleil on TV w/ Jeff and my old roommie in Atlanta, and 1999/2000 wherein a bunch of my friends rented two houses in the Pocono Mtns and partied like it was, well, you know.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i think the last time i wasn't in bed at midnight was 4 years ago. this year started out with a bang and is definitely ending with a whimper.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I remember New Years 2000. This rich guy I knew rented out a swanky bar and the drinks were free. He also operated the music. He played "Footloose" 3 times. I guess he thought that was the most fun song ever of something. And then he started playing Footloose again, and some other friends and I straight up bumrushed the dj booth and bodily dragged him out of there, and kicked him and kicked him.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

12/26-1/6 D and I will be in UK. We will celebrate NYE in Edinburgh, which is just about the MOST EXCITING thing I have ever done on NYE. I've had some fun times, but NYE is not my jam.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.shoot-your.tv/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/yacht_rock_2.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Nick designed that flier using a pic he took at the FAST factory in Wisconsin.

xpost - That's exciting, Amanda! Will you be going there for any other reason than vacation?

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

new years 2000 was when i quit smoking for a year and a half. i had my last smoke at about quarter to midnight and that was it for a while.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

xp - Well, 12/29 is our 3rd wedding anniversary, and we always wanted to go to UK but could never afford it. So we saved and saved and saved and now we're going. Yay! The flight into Manchester was cheaper than some flights to CA, so we had to jump on that shit when we could.

Next we start saving up for Mexico - I want to see AZTEC RUINS.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

NYE last year was amazing, I was in Minneapolis and it was the best party I can remember. Year before was that cabin up north, which was a protracted good/bad experience. Year before that, I don't know, it might have been when we gigged in Milwaukee and played 5 sets, and got to the hotel two hours before we had to check out.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Just seeing that Yacht Rock picture put the song "Heart to Heart" in my head.

Amanda, I am SO EXCITED about your trip! You inspire me to believe that we, too, can live the dream of going somewhere on a real vacation on day. Also for some reason I love that you got married on Dec. 29.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Me too! My parents were also married around then (um, not together any more but I always thought it was neat). The church was still decorated for Christmas.

I'm all flemmy today. :-(

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I am also SO EXCITED about trip, although we are having some serious problems buying train/megabus tickets online. It'll get figured out, but man -- what a pain. There's something about US credit cards that the websites don't like.

Zombie wedding photo, taken on Dec. 29 2003
http://static.flickr.com/28/56564944_43434b94ff_m.jpg

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Happy wedding photo:
http://static.flickr.com/27/56564942_c067fb7704_m.jpg

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

those photos are great. oh wait...

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

The best NYE was the one spent in Washington Sq Park declaiming poetry from the middle of the empty fountain, with friends who are all now elsewhere. And then I went to Motherfucker and made out with cute younger guy. That kicked off a pretty good year, all things considered.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Which airport do you need to get to, Amanda?

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

We're going nonstop from O'Hare to Manchester, but it's the getting from city to city that is causing us problems. I am going to try to buy tickets over the phone.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

For the past five NYEs, friends of mine have rented out a bar to party at. First it was Bar San Miguel (RIP), then we relocated to Leadway for a couple years, and then last year (because of a misunderstanding at Leadway) we did K's Dugout. This year it looks like we're going to a place called The Driftwood, on Montrose/Sheffield.

The only thing is that it's going to cost $50/person. Open bar all night, plus appetizers/snacks/champagne, so I guess it's worth it, but I'm used to paying like a $10 cover and then doing the cash bar, which even if you have like 5 beers still works out to only $35.

If anyone feels like shelling out that much money, you're welcome to come. As per tradition, I'm probably going to be making a couple of iPod playlists -- a Best of '06 mix and an all-time awesome dance mix.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Also for some reason I love that you got married on Dec. 29.

I was just thinking that. You REBELS. NOBODY gets married on December 29!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

We will celebrate NYE in Edinburgh

That rules. Edinburgh on NYE is supposed to be awesome. My dad and I traveled around England and Scotland for a few days around New Year's '98, but we lacked the foresight to do NYE in Edinburgh. Instead, we stayed at an inn in York and watched a Frasier marathon. The next day we took a train to Edinburgh and marveled at all the detritus on the ground from the previous night's festivities.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Joooohhhhnnnn, HOW WAS THE SHOW?

It was good! It felt a little sloppy at times, but everyone who came said we sounded great. The sound guy was super-nice, too. I wanted to stick around for Bound Stems, but Kr wasn't feeling well, so we jetted early.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow. This is a nice storm!

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Nice unless you're about to walk outside in it HELLO

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

my date's sinus meds made her loopy after her 3rd drink.

Sounds like my Thanksgiving this year.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Jess, you had a date??

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I forgot that I spent NYE'02/'03 in NYC, but I was with my family, so we just had dinner at a Moroccan restaurant in Greenwich Village and then retired to our B&B.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Sounds like my Thanksgiving this year.

I thought you were going to say "prom night."

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Jess, you had a date??

No, I had a Courtney who took Benadryl with her wine. (Thanks for the incredulity of 2 question marks!)

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Is there anything that "sounds like my prom night" doesn't work with?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Nah, I just couldn't believe that you hadn't told us about it, that's all.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

my date's sinus meds made her loopy after her 3rd drink.
Sounds like my Thanksgiving this year.

she was fine for a couple hours then literally in mid sentence she grabbed her haid and "I need to sit down." then she started slurring her words and told me to take her home. we went back to my place and danced in the living room and made out under the comforter. that was a great night.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I have lost 3 lbs in the last month, even with holiday eating!

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

"It's not a date, it's just a do. Come on, let's go do eath other."

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

kenan, once you start listening for it you'll be surprised at how all-encompassing it's appropriateness (is that a word?) is.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

that's so awesome that you're going to the UK, amanda!

xp sounds like uh every time i try to drink.

i haven't had a good NYE for a while. the last one was probably staying in manhattan with my sis and bro in law, going out for a really fancy dinner and then getting drunk at home and playing scrabble (i only had a few sips, but wooo am i a lightweight). i beat them at scrabble (naturally), but then they got into a discussion of something political/racial and i wanted to argue with them, but was too woozy to articulate much of anything.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

"And then she killed everybody! Everybody in the whole building!"

"Sounds like my prom night."

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

So I just found what's going to be in the $tylu$ Top 50 Singles, although I don't know the order yet, and I can't reveal anything to you. Except I think Jenny will be pleased.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

everybody run, the homecoming queen's got a gun...

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

the thunder is literally shaking the windows here in the western 'burbs.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

http://teenadvice.about.com/cs/promnight/bb/blpromprep.htm

My favorite part:

Prom night romance and sex are not a package deal - prom is more than a three letter word.

Duh. It's a four-letter word. As in, "anal."

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

um my xp was in response to otto's NYE post.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

How was the other band? So the sound was good then?

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

How do I shot Excel? Specifically, how do I make a column or two 'fixed' (so that they stay in view while the others scroll horizontally)?

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a lot of nightmares lately.

I dreamed that there was a highrise condo for X-Men mutants, and on top was a football arena--with 5 fields atop one another--that would be the launching point for a "week-long, world-wide, air, land, and water" Mutant Superbowl.

The team leaders included The Terrorist, 1 of two cute little twin girls with pancake makeup who had a pet hyaena, some guy who used a lot of kinves, and some guy who could fly.

The twin girl who was not the leader had the hyaena eat the other girl so she could lead, but it would only do so after she stabbed her sister with pointy scissors. Then the hyaena smeared the blood of the team mascot--a plush pink bunny--on the windows.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Other band was fine, though not really my thing. And re sound, it was another one of those cases where it sounded horrible during sound-check -- all big and wet and rock-ish -- but by the time we went on stage the sound-guy had figured it out. That happens to us a lot. People don't get that everything has to be balanced, and that we're not a big guitar-rock band.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

From the anonymous-to-you IUD emailer:

I have to play an elf at Macy's Sun morning at 9....I'm not fucking kidding

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

jordan, go to WINDOW then FREEZE PANES.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.seasiderep.org/content/season/i/santaland.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

THANK YOU OTTOMAN

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I was elf photographer during Christmas break at the mall all through college. I was dating this guy one year, and he needed a job, so I got him job as Santa. Then we broke up. Then I had to look at him through a fence of screaming children every day for almost a month. It sucked.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I got up early today, got to work early, and have been bustin' ass all morning. It kind of surprises me how productive I can be seemingly at random.

Anyone been to Nashville? I recall Otto (and probably others) discussing the greater Tennessee region before, if not Nashville specifically. I'm going there tomorrow for a wedding this weekend and will need places to kill time while my friends in the wedding party do their rehearsal, etc.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't want to tell you who the person was who wrote the IUD email, but the person who wrote that last one is Sayjal! Those of you who know her will probably agree that she is an ideal elf.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm. This headshot does not look a lot like her....

http://www.comedysportzchicago.com/site/pics/245/33733/128900/197616/joshi_bio_c.gif

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

weird you say that dan, i'm booking a ticket for my boss for a conference in nashville right now. only places i know in nashville are the springwater, the exit inn, and the end which are all bars/venues.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Molly Doll to thread!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Let's post pictures of Sayjal

http://static.flickr.com/86/234379648_6054ffbd1d.jpg?v=0 http://static.flickr.com/16/22013859_72fbb8c53d.jpg?v=0 http://static.flickr.com/3/5935126_f29a523b84.jpg?v=0

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't want to tell you who the person was who wrote the IUD email, but the person who wrote that last one is Sayjal!

You said it was the same person. Oh wait...

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/3/2324784_dcbea5dee1_m.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

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― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

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― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.chicagoimprov.org/forum/photopost/data/500/thumbs/LilSayjal.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

HOLY. FUCKING. POOPED. MY. PANTS. (but i'm not wearing pants)-- It sounded like my house just got struck by lightning.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it raining or something?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

SOMEBODY JUSS POOPED

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I love this storm, but I wish I could have seen the look on my face when the last lightning and simultaneous thunderclap struck. It was one of those trebley ones that sound more like *CRRRRRACK!!*

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Where is this? I see Jeff eating in the background.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Remember when I had a crush on Sayjal?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, dear.

Hey, a question:

"to support an organization that’s mission and goals I truly support" is grammatically correct but sounds really awkward. Could I get by with saying "whose mission and goals"?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm in love with this website:

http://wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.html

I love linguistics and grammar on the trivia level.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Sayjal is cuet.

I would say "whose", yeah.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Whose certainly sounds better, but can an organization technically be a who?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

An organization can be a 'they', so why not?

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Where is this? I see Jeff eating in the background.

Robin's going away party, at that place where she stayed when she moved here.

That's a great picture of me. I look thin.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Technically doesn't always win! Jesse you need a tattoo on your forehead that says "Don't hate me because I'm a prescriptivist."

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I am most certainly NOT a prescriptivist.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

You're the one arguing about which pronunciation is "correct"!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I asked for some help editing my coverletter and it came back with "that's" which I knew was technically correct, but my ear balked at. Then my ear puked. So I gave my ear some Emetrol and ginger beer, which helped a bit, but it was still feeling a little queasy.

xpost: But I was arguing against John's prescriptivist ways!

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Whatever prescriptivism I preach is for comic effect, or to make an argument more interesting.

Re the other night, I honestly thought that Jesse was telling me that "horrible" and "whore" had different vowel sounds IN THE MIDWEST. My mistake.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, I was just thinking "that's a great picture of Jeff! He also looks thin."

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I am listening to Scott Walker. I had never heard of him before, save for seeing him listed on Jeff's myspace last.fm pages. Weird stuff.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

So I guess sayja1 wouldn't be freaked out at all that we've posted so many pix of her on a thread? But anyway, yes, she is cute. She is so cute that she can say the most disgusting things and it still makes you go awwwww...

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I think "whose" is probably best, but if you feel weird about it, would it be too clunky to say, "an organization with a mission and goals"? Or "an organization that has a mission and goals"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Daniel-san

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

When Sayjal, Jenny and I worked at the restaurant in NC she once said, "I need a 'poon for my 'poon."

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Meaning what?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

You mean: 'poon for my poon'

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Meaning "I need a tampon for my poontang."

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, that is what I meant.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Wouldn't that be a 'pon for my poon?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Another question: does anyone wear double-breasted jackets anymore? I had one years ago and I looked GREAT in it. I've been reading up on suits and from what I read, they complement body types such as mine, but aren't they pretty much out of style? Or at least temporal? Not an classic, enduring style? Help.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I do not want to think about sayjal's poon ok thanks.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost-- maybe, but calling it a tampoon is funnier.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I was just being picky.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh I thought you meant a harpoon -- because of that pesky cervix.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

When I say years ago, I mean yeeeears ago

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― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Double-breasted, with pinstripes! I looked 6'4" in that suit.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

And a goddamn pink carnation boutinierre with fucking baby's breath!

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse: Classic if you are European. Technically always allowable even for USians, but with certain overtones that are sort of out of vogue right now (partly because DBs were picked up in the late '80s-early '90s and came to signify erm established order/financial power and successful masculinity/smarminess). I equate them with older Italian-American men who also oil their hair back and wear pinkie rings. If you want to overturn the type, TOTALLY DO IT.

There's also the whole yachting/anchor-buttons part but that comes to my mind second...and I don't like that type, either.

Also, that suit in your photo isn't double-breasted! WTF?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Huh. I always remember that suit as being DB'ed.

I don't think I would feel good in a DB suit.

http://www.themorningnews.org/archives/opinions/mens_fashion_part_1_suits.php

I like this article a lot.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought double-breasted suits were cool when I was a kid and I had one. Now I think they are indeed way out of fashion.

Also, that suit in your photo isn't double-breasted! WTF?

Yeah, I'm glad it's not just me!

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Where should I buy a suit for $300 or less? I am wary of Men's Warehouse, but I can't afford Macy Field's. I found a jacket I liked at Filene's basement once. Also a well-dressed homo told me that H&M was a good place to buy a suit, but I'm very very wary of them.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Go to that place we went, Justin's uncle's roommate's store.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh wait I thought you said $3000 or less.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Why are you wary of Men's Warehouse? They did me right, although you all know that I know nothing about fashion and don't care enough to make distinctions. But I think the suit I bought there looks good on me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

What's wrong with Men's Warehouse? Or H&M?

xpost

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I like that article, too, Jesse. Their whole series is nice, I remember having read it before. Also, I would like to go out sometime with a well-dressed man -- I'm pretty sure I never have -- but the balance, finding the balance between making sure you look sharp most of the time and, like, spending more time with your tailor than with ME, is so hard to find.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I want a place that will offer alterations. And a place that will not stuff your suit into a bag like H&M does (or did when Jenny bought a suit there). I don't know what might be wrong with MW, but I have a feeling about them--like they will just show me a suit and send me out the door.

I don't own any suits right now, so I want my only one to be as good/great as possible.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I got alterations at MW.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, H&M will have current styles and cuts, but quality is a serious issue with them. Tread carefully and check the linings and buttons and lapels to see that everything lies and hangs smoothly. And yeah, you need alterations! Pretty much no suit fits out of the box, as it were.

Men's Warehouse...worries me. I'm sure you can do okay there if you're really discerning...but I think they carry A LOT of schlock.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Difference: The staff at H&M are assholes. MW salesmen are classy and attentive.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Nick will be getting a suit at Christmas for DE VEDDING. His poppa will be helping him pick one out, so worst case scenario he'll look like Indiana Jones for the wedding.

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sure you can do okay there if you're really discerning

If I was discerning, I would not own a suit. My ignorance is precisely what allowed me to walk in and out of there in 15 minutes, and I felt amazing for having purchased a sharp-looking suit all by myself.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Laurel:

I am kind of sad at how my last couple of dates went, sartorially speaking--both with regar to myself, and moreso my dates. Can anyone fucking try to dress up anymore?? (Granted the first guy was a loser, and the 2nd wore his working class status on his wrinkled threadbare sleeve and we went to a movie and coffee, respectively.)

I want to be a better-dressed person. But it's hard when you dress the same every day for work (as a waiter does) and when you don't really go anywhere that would require dressing up.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel is OTM about MW. And H&M.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, how do suits look like schlock? They're suits, for chrissakes! The point is that they make everyone look great!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan got his wedding suit at MW and they spent a lot of time on alterations. They were really nice, actually. Not snobby and he got a nice, all-purpose black suit + tie that sort of matched my dress.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, how do suits look like schlock? They're suits, for chrissakes! The point is that they make everyone look great!

Oh dear, here we go again.

I have confidence in my ability to be discerning, but I don't want to have to wade through crap that that MW asshole "GAHrantees" (talk about awful pronunciation).

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

lol @ "all suits look good"

http://www.mayerco.com/images/men/haspel_02a.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

(xp to Amanda) Yup, they were very friendly to me, too. I went there because I thought that was where people went to buy suits. It never occurred to me to go anywhere else.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Girls in NYC usually WAY outdress their boys...and it's kind of understandable, because I, too, am a sucker for a sharp-jawed punk rock dirtbag with the right evil grin and no shirts with buttons in his closet. But it's still a little sad, and it makes couples who dress to the same level TOTAL KNOCKOUTS.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

John, read the article I posted and you will see.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, don't ask him to read the article, we'll only be arguing, I mean, talking about it all afternoon.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't like to be outdressed. Just like I like to be just a little taller.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

There is a law of diminishing returns, but it seems to me that just as with wine, in suits the range between terrible an acceptable is much wider than between acceptable and mouthwatering.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh dear, here we go again

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lol @ "all suits look good"

I like that suit. Who is that, Gregory Peck?

John, read the article I posted and you will see.

I did read that article. It said don't wear a suit-jacket with jeans (yeah, duh), and it looked askance on single-button suits (okay, whatever), but other than that, I don't know what you're talking about.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

J0rdan, please send me contact INFORMACION por CAM. I want to ask him for ideas/help on playing in milwaukee.

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I like that suit. Who is that, Gregory Peck?

Yeah. And I guess you're right -- there's a time and place for seersucker. And that time and place is when you're Gregory Peck. Or Matlock.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I will kick the shins of any sucka who says that my hubs looked schlocky on our wedding day.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean they ALL just look alike! They're fabric! Who cares if it's wool and polyester? They're both fabrics--how can they be different?

― Jaymcee (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't mess with the weasel.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

They're both fabrics--how can they be different?

You're making my day a little brighter. Really.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Post pictures of mouthwatering suits here.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.ilovemoda.com/images/armani-three-button.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Look: I went to MW and knew I just wanted a basic black suit that I could wear for weddings. I didn't know if I wanted one button or two, so I tried both on and decided I liked two. I didn't want anything fancy, so I didn't look at anything fancy. Based on that article, it seems like "bad suits" are suits that are trying to be all trendy or embellished somehow, with odd cuts or weird fabrics, but that inevitably fall flat. But if you know you just want a good basic suit that fits you, then I don't know what's wrong with Men's Warehouse. If they have schlock there, I certainly wasn't looking for it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

You know what I liked about NO? The fact that young heterosexual men -- hetero and homo alike -- could wear seersucker. And white linen. I loved White Linen Night when all the galleries opened their doors, NPR gave away fans, and many people wore white linen suits. You just can NOT do that in Chicago, even in the dog days of summer without looking like an old man or a douchebag.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/101/309563899_48845feb4c.jpg?v=0

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I have accepted the fact that when/if I purchase a new suit, it will have to be at the (Big &) TALL Store.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

After all this, I had better find a good suit.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse I know a great haberdasher in Oconomowoc.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel OTM. Why is that picture so hot? I can't quite figure it out.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

While we're on the subject, I'll just throw this out there: Fuck Pleated Pants.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

You just can NOT do that in Chicago, even in the dog days of summer without looking like an old man or a douchebag.

Right. Or Matlock.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

With a suit, a little tailoring goes a long way.

― Michael White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

MW kind of looks like XEB -- or they are at least the same physical type. It makes me messed up. I'd have liked to see that one dress awesomely during our association, with his build & looks he was CRYING OUT to be really, really sharp.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

XEB = Xander Berkeley, from Safe?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Good look, Mr. White!

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

OH WAIT I GET IT NOW.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Where is Oconomonwoc?

I am not very skilled at dressing myself. Someone should dress me for best results.

The guy who runs the Center in New Orleans wears a suit every single day. It makes him seem covetous of a social class that he understands only in terms of being "dressed up," while he ignores the importance of being appropriately dressed.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone should dress me for best results.

Totally. I still would LOVE to be Queer Eye'd.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

When it's warm enough, which is rare, I wear seersucker here in S.F.

Who is XEB?

― Michael White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

The last person I dated, M. Who I have yet to get over, in any plausible sense.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know what levels of douchebaggery I thereby achieve, however.

xpost to self

My condolences, Laurel.

― Michael White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I will do the personal shopper thing at Macy's once I save up some money.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

oconomowoc=wisconsin town

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

also, cowomonoco spelled backwards.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

and it looked askance on single-button suits

Hilarious considering their prevalence on Saville Row.

― Michael White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Just found out that C@N@ST@ is going to be opening up for THE DEARS (whom Eazy likes) at METRO on DECEMBER 8. Apparently the venue is having trouble selling tix, so we're getting a couple hundred FREE tickets to give away to our fans.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I also need help buying jeans.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

jeans are hell to shop for if you have feminine curves. possibly otherwise as well.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I just haven't bought jeans in literally years. And it shows.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I hate shopping for jeans. I wear ridiculously baggy jeans because that seems to be all that "fits."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I love my A|X jeans.

http://www.armaniexchange.com/category/id/100349.do

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

At any given time, I have about five pair of jeans that are either too baggy or too tight or otherwise wonky in some way, and one pair of jeans that are *perfect* that are beginning to get very worn.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

At any given time, I have about five pair of jeans that are either too baggy or too tight or otherwise wonky in some way, and one pair of jeans that are *perfect* that are beginning to get very worn.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I am happier with my current jeans lineup than I have ever been. Even the H&M ones are working well.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

"ones" = I'm an idiot.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I need new clothes. THANKS FOR COSTING ME MONEY TODAY, PEOPLE.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been summoned to provide Things To Do in Nashville (where I live). Sadly, a lot depends on whether you have a car or not, as public transport in the city is a major bummer.

Drinking:
Springwater = great dive bar, with a certain danger element thrown in.
Red Door West = pretty good. It's the kind of bar where someone will correct you if you don't use both their first names (i.e. "It's not just Billy. It's Billy WAYNE.")
Yazoo Brewery Pub = great! but open at odd times.
The Villager = right in Hillsboro village. Fun and dive-y, but full of Vanderbilt students (yuck).

Coffee:
Fido -- Hillsboro Village -- used to be an old pet shop (still has the sign)
Bongo Java on Belmont -- It's got a nice porch and the coffee is pretty great. Try a Paleta as well (mexican popsicles -- delicious)


East Nashville is a whole 'nother can of worms, but equally as fun.

― molly (molly d), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Thank you Molly! I think we will have a rental car to share, but I'm not sure. I also know we're going to someplace called the Flying Saucer, but that's about it.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

No problem! The Flying Saucer is this big old bar in part of the old train station (remnants of Cornelius Vanderbilt's robber-baronhood). There are plates on the ceiling for champion drinkers at the bar. It's a pretty neat room, and they have tons of beer. I also realized I forgot to mention other Things To Do that don't involve vices. The Frist (ack) Art Museum is a gorgeous art deco building next to the Flying Saucer, coincidentally, but it doesn't even have a permanent collection. I think there's an Egyptian exhibit right now.

The Country Music Hall of fame is GREAT and totally worth the $18. They have Gram Parson's suit with the poppy flowers and pills. It's great. The Ryman gives hourly tours, and that's just down on Lower Broadway heading downtown (Flying Saucer is just off of Broadway, but closer to Vanderbilt).

― molly (molly d), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm so sleepy, can anyone entertain me in hopes of me not actually falling asleep? there is a leadership retreat going on this week and as a result there are only 5 people in the office today. right now i'm the only person on the first floor of the building.

so i guess i *could* fall asleep...

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh cool, that looks like some good stuff to do on Friday while I'm flying solo-ish. Might try to hit up some record stores if my friend who's getting hitched has any suggestions, too.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Sounds like time for a Camel, Otto.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I might break my own rule and have a smoke after lunch. I usually don't, at work, but I'm supah cooped up today.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm pretty much dying for a smoke since i was so congested this morning i didn't have my morning cigarette but the receptionist has been at lunch since noon and i have to watch the goddamn phones until she gets back.

i'm fucking starving over here too.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Records! Yes!

The Great Escape is on 21st Avenue (sort of parallel to Upper Broadway). TONS of used records/cds of all types. One of my now-coworkers took me there on my interview lunch and I decided then that I could happily live in Nashville.

Grimey's is on 8th Avenue. It's got vinyl and cds, but beware of the instore, that might block the funk/reggae/new releases record section.

Phonoluxe is over on Nolensville Road (next to an awesome Mexican restaurant -- La Hacienda), and it's all used stuff, and a bit pricey. But, if you're looking for Dolly Parton's entire oeuvre on vinyl, that is the place to find it.

― molly (molly d), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm guessing that's where Tim went.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sleep too, I went home for lunch and ate a bunch of crap and watched the last 15 min of Capote. I need coffee.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

At first I was happy that Bake for Me accidentally gave me a whole sandwich instead of a half one (I got the soup and half-sandwich special) -- but now I feel like a glutton, since I obv. still ate the entire thing, plus the soup.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Yup. We went to pretty much all of the aforementioned places. I had to give him another bag for all his vinyl to carry on the plane.

― molly (molly d), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Bless Tim's little cotton socks.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I had to give him another bag for all his vinyl to carry on the plane.

after my trip to nyc this month i had to check my carry on because i suddenly had a messenger bag filled with a couple hundred dollars worth of records.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Bake for Me, girl / I wanna be your backdoor man / Hey! Oh! Hey! Oh! / OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know why "Bake for Me" cracks me up every time.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Sadly, it was a giant orange library bag that I got at a conference which screamed "I'm a nerd. Beat me up."

― molly (molly d), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but see, only Tim could carry that bag WITH IMPUNITY.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, this sounds great for Friday activities. Thanks again!

This is going to be fun, I've never been to a "real" bachelor party before. Supposedly it's going to start with 40s and Wii games (4 player style, we're big nerds) and end with shooting shit with a 20 gauge. We're not really strip club types, but we want to find the most comically bad stripper possible just for lolz somewhere in there too. From the bride-to-be's assesment, that shouldn't be tough.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

"Real" bachelor parties scare me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, I say that more because this will be an actually party vs. the two other ones I have been to which were mostly sitting around hotel rooms drinking and dreading the inevitable. LAME

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I remember that our return from Bowlie was during the Brixton nail bombings and here's our Tim getting off the bus unshaven and perpetually hungover and extremely menacing, carrying a battered black weekender bag....

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

strippers at a bachelor party are lame. bachelor parties at strip clubs are classic. 40 ounces and firearms, eh dan? i hope jesse finds that suit before your funeral.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Have you cunts read 1984? I like it more than I thought I would.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i haven't read it since high school or maybe middle school. probably high school.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.lastnightoffreedom.co.uk/images/shop-bachelor-party.jpg

It's not a real bachelor party until somebody's hanging naked out the window on a sheet.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

strippers at a bachelor party are lame. bachelor parties at strip clubs are classic.

Oh yeah, if it happens it'll definitely be the latter.

And I'm staying AWAY from the firearms as much as possible. That was the best man's idea. I actually hope people get drunk enough that someone comes to their senses about that shit -- but that ain't likely.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Tim carried that bag with authority and made it look tough. While he was in Nashville, he joined me on the radio after 2 hours of sleep and an night's full of beer, and pulled the whole thing off in an impressive fashion. I, unfortunately, was stupidly hungover and barely functional. I think it's archived on freaky trigger, but I have too much dignity to share the link.

Hey, no problem! Enjoy Nashville. It's a fun town and full of strip clubs. You won't have a hard time finding some awful ones, I'm sure.

― molly (molly d), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I read some post-apocolyptic book that Jenny lent me and hated it. (Parable of the Sower??) 1984 is like a good version of that book.

I like Newspeak and the how the methods of deception by the Party are at once really over the top and plausible. Also I like that Orwell can write about feelings as well as ideas in a way that so so so many sci-fi writers can't.

I think here is as good a place as any to say that BSG lost me for good when the characters said "Frack." That was too egregious to ever forgive.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

my favorite bachelor parties were the last two i went to, started with 9 holes of golf then we piled into a rented bus/winnebago (the 2nd one was a smaller party) went to a red sox afternoon game. post game got on the highway and headed south to the strip clubs in rhode island. stayed there for an hour or so then pile back onto the busses and hit foxwoods. we'd stay there until the majority of us had lost money and we'd go back to the bus to pass out.

and oh, yes, there was always plenty of alcohol at least at all times.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never actually been to a strip bar before, so I wouldn't really know an "awful" one from a "good" one. I'm guessing we might rely more on the more experienced bachelor partiers and also on how horrified the groom is of any particular place. That'll narrow it down.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeff has one suit and it is from MW. It was everything we wanted and more - it was cheap, fast, made him look sharp, and gave him something to wear on interviews. Three years later, it's starting to pill and look a little cheap but it doesn't fit him anymore anyway so whatever.

So, my opinion on MW suits: Great for people on a budget or people like Jeff or John who just need a damn suit without a lot of flufferall or mess, or discerning people like Jesse looking for a suit to have on hand but who one day want a nicer, suit-for-life suit.

Also John re: suits upthread: EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I think here is as good a place as any to say that BSG lost me for good when the characters said "Frack." That was too egregious to ever forgive.

It didn't lose me, but that annoys the shit out of me.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I have been to strip clubs ranging from "last stop for crack whores" to supposedly "classy" places and have come to the conclusion that they are all horrible.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Also John re: suits upthread: EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Now why didn't I think to try that?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

One of my biggest peeves about sci-fi is the language! "I GROCK you." My blood BOILS.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

LOL GROK

Man, that takes me back to 10th grade.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

HBO shows about strippers >>>>>>>>>>>> live in-person strippers

Just like violent TV >>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual violence

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Didn't that happen in one of the first episodes?

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Strip clubs can be fun with the right people/amount of alcohol, I think.

frack vs. frell (from Farscape)

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I got used to "frack" AND even found myself using it occasionally. But I am a dork, no question.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never been to a strip club.

I use FRACK all the FRACKIN time.

Boy oh boy am I ever bored this afternoon. *sigh*

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I love "grok". In fact, I use it frequently. It's a useful sort of word.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I actually prefer female strip clubs (with friends) to boy strip clubs with or without friends. Male strip clubs are big frustration joints for me.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

(xpost) 1. Because it's "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH."

2. This technique will become much less effective if everyone starts using it! Also, it's the bizarre/surprise element that makes it work. And the fact that I'm not involved in the argument at all. If the two of us were arguing, and I started to just go "AAAAAAA," it would not end the argument.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost JESSE YOU ARE NOT HELPING ME.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

"frag"

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I think frak is kind of annoying, but I try to mentally translate it to "fuck", and every now and then someone will deliver it with the right amount of venom or slurring to make it work.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought "frag" originated during WWII or something.

TS: Frack v. cursing in Chinese

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh I get that one. LOL FRAGGED U NUBS

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

It's the sound of the words that bothers me most of all.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I prefer the Chinese. It sounds more angry, and not just made-up. It could be made up for all I know, but at least I'm not sure it is.

xpost EXACTLY

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

The Chinese gambit was the worst choice ever. Never ONCE did anyone sound convincing doing that.

XP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

The only person I know who's used "frack" with this girl I was friends with in high school. It was kind of dumb. Just say "fuck" already.

I hate "grok."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

OH NOES LAURL!!!!!!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I use FRACK all the FRACKIN time.

The only person I know who's used "frack" with this girl I was friends with in high school. It was kind of dumb.

You fracked up now, boy.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

"They insist that women have done enough house work for their family and suffered a pain whenever they do a delivery or menses."

--paper on including women in Korea's required military service that currently only includes men.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Why can't everyone just be polite like Data and Picard?????

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, who is cursing in Chinese?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Firefly/Serenity characters

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Who is doing a menses?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

DAN: PENGWIN BEAK FITE!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I am doing a menses right now.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope you are not suffering a pain.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, so there's speaking in English, and then they suddenly break into Chinese?

I like it when movies are able to not curse and still not have fake cursing, either. Like Mamet's The Spanish Prisoner. I don't even know why it's rated PG. Maybe there's a "damn" that I'm forgetting.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, pretty much. They're usually kind of more drawn-out "oath" kind of swears, though.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

After years of wanting a pair, I bought some of these this morning:

http://www.dansko.com/images/shoe_single/large_806020202.jpg

I love them.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Favorite Instance Of Avoidance of Actual Cursing By Substitution Of Similar Sounding Words

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i haven't been to a strip club since i was 25 or so i think. they're all pretty much awful. but when you're with a large group of friends and you know you're going to be out drinking for hours and hours going to a strip club is more fun than a regular bar. because there's always that one friend who tries to pick up the talent and then it's just hilarious. although when we went to new orleans in '98 we lost one of our friends the first night to a dancer named mercedes, he came back two days later.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I think the deal is that China took over so everyone is bilingual.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I love "grok". In fact, I use it frequently. It's a useful sort of word.

Maybe I'd like it better if it weren't so ugly. But also: how is it any more useful than "get" or "understand"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.break.com/letsgotoprison/worlds_dumbest_criminal.html

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Re strip clubs: I just don't think I'd be able to deal with being around other guys, with all the crass wink-wink-nudge-nudge that implies. Sexual attraction's more of a personal thing for me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

"[G]et" is sometimes a little Valley Girl for my tastes, and "understand" doesn't cover the idea that you and the other thing or person are on the same wavelength...I think there's an element of totality to "grok" that's missing from the other options, that you are more than just rationally comprehending something, but internalizing it, feeling it, whatever.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

can you guys email me any online resources useful for visiting chicago? I was hoping maybe for like some transit googlemaps hacks, etc? thankssss

― jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

uh, john, there's nothing attractive about being at a strip club. for the most part the talent hates their clientel and their only goal is to make them part with as much of their money as possible.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Transit googlemap hack: http://www.tastypopsicle.com/maps/cta.asp

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

From wiki: "Grok... is a verb that connotes knowledge greater than that which can be sensed by an outside observer. It is an understanding beyond empathy and intimacy. In grokking, one experiences the literal capabilities and frame of reference of the subject."

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Kevin -- there's that, too. The whole thing seems kind of gross.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

JENNY IS A FASTER COPY PASTER THAN I

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

john, yes, it is pretty gross, i'm not sure that i can consume enough alcohol to get me into a strip club now. at 24 things are different than 34.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I had a chance with one of the "Boys on the Bar" at a place in NO, but I figured I didn't really, so I didn't act on it. But now I think I did. But then again it was one of 2 bars that made up what they called the "financial district," so I may have had a chance with him if I was willing to pay for it.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin, I have grown very fond of you but can you please stop calling the women who work at strip clubs "the talent"? It's kind of grating in a "totally dehumanizing" kind of way.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

jon, message sent, let me know what else you need.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the talent at boy bars are WAY more likely to be interested in their clinetelle than at a titty bar.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Ooops. Still not helping.

I think "talent" is no more degrading than "stripper." What else can you call the dancing women?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Women?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel, your explanation of "grok" makes sense. It still rubs me the wrong way somehow -- esp. knowing that its origins are sci-fi/geek. I will continue to use "get" and expressions like "I feel ya."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

STILL NOT HELPING.

I recuse myself from the discussion.

xposterooni

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

jenny there are two groups of people who work at those types of establishments, "the talent" and "the staff". not all women who work at strip clubs are talent.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

JMC: And the world will go on.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Dancers?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Tits McGee?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

interrupting strip club conversation to report: just got my hair cut by Jenny-recommended stylist. it is my favorite haircut evah! Jenny, whenever your done with your finals, I'm buying you a drink.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll be staying off the Brown Line @ Paulina.... I should probably get a book since I'll be solo a bit I think

― jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i think "dancers" sounds kind of june taylor-ish but if that's what jenny would prefer i have no qualms with that.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

whenever you're done with your finals, that is. haircut-delirium-induced spelling lapse.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll be staying off the Brown Line @ Paulina

Isn't this your hood, JMC?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

jon, you're better off asking anyone else on this thread about that part of town because i can't remember the last time i took the brown line north of diversey.

oh, wait, i did get on the brown line this summer after going to laurie's planet of sound to head back into the city. i remember it was really hot and instead of getting on the western ave bus and taking a 10 minute trip back to my sweatbox apartment i took the brown line back into the loop, then transferred to the blue line and took that out to damen just so i could stay in the air conditioned glory of the cta.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll be staying off the Brown Line @ Paulina

This is a nice little neighborhood (Roscoe Village). This is my el stop twice a week, on days when I have band practice.

There's a Whole Foods a block away from that el stop. Also a few blocks away from Hard Boiled, an indie record store and video outlet specializing in Hong Kong cinema, owned by a mild-manner British chap named Mark. And Victory's Banner, a very good Buddhist vegetarian breakfast place.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

(I live on Paulina and take the Brown Line, but the Paulina el stop is actually about 2 miles south of me.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha! Anything east of Western and north of about Addison is still a semi-grey area for me.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

sayjal is from the poon-job region of india

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i met mark, the owner of hard boiled, at a party at joel's place right after i moved to chicago a bunch of years back. it's allllll related somehow.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay to HS for the good haircut! I'll totally take you up on the beer offer. Isn't Val B. the sweetest?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

she is! she's totally adorable. she picked out hair product for me, too. I am completely hair-challenged.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

My managing editor is hilarious. Here is her take on my avoidance of catching the garter at weddings: "Don't discount your chicks before they're hatched."

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Managing eds are a rare breed!

People really throw garters at weddings?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the last garter-throwing I witnessed was in 1993, at some cousin's wedding.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never seen a garter thrown. but I've mostly been to Indian weddings.

― horsehoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i would never want to catch a garter, i don't care whose leg i get to put it on.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I think just about every wedding (reception) I've been to has had that.

xpost: Yeah, her first question was "Will you try to catch the garter, or avoid it like the plague." I responded "Well, there are some pretty good hospitals here at the U."

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

(meaning I'd take my chances with the plague... stupid typing)

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse actually made me a bouquet so I would toss it at our reception, but I think he got drunk and forgot about it, which is good because I worked hard to avoid all that crap as much as possible.

I would rather elope than endure the garter toss.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

one of the people I'm staying with works @ r3ckless r3cords....

― jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

oh then you're fucked.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Reckless is down the street from our house.

Jon Williams, what do you like to do? Do you like to go to bars?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH..........

Oh god, someone help me up.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

unless it's the reckless in wicker park. in which case it would be very far from your house.

and i suppose i should seperate my loathing for the store from the people who work there (with a few exceptions), i've actually known some very nice people who were employed there at various times. but the store sucks, and sucks hard.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been known to go to bars.

― jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, good because I never know what else to do with internet people who come to Chicago.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

...except get them drunk and steal their wallets.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

but the store sucks, and sucks hard

I saw you say this on another thread, and I forgot to ask you why you thought this. My only problem with it is that its dance section sucks, and it's not really the place to go if you're looking for something in particular (unless it's a brand-new release) -- but I've scored a lot of great used CDs there.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

So who is actually going to be around Xmas weekend?

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I like Reckless just fine, but I have much less specialized record store needs than most people. I'm happy as long as the clerks don't openly mock my selections.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Woe be unto the record store clerk who does that. WOE I tell you.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I think that's a myth borne out of people's insecurities. I've never been openly mocked, or otherwise treated derisively, by a record-store clerk.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

As a former record store clerk, I have openly mocked people's selections.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

So who is actually going to be around Xmas weekend?

Me. I don't know what date we're going to come to your show yet. On Friday (the 22nd) I'm arranging for Restaurant Club to go to Glenn's Diner, a place a block away from Kr's apartment that specializes in seafood and also serves cereal all day. It'd be v. easy to just come to the Gr Mill afterwards -- it's relatively close -- but if that doesn't happen for some reason, then we'll def. be there on Saturday. Kr is v. excited.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

they never have anything i want. if i'm lucky they will get in one copy of a new full length on in the red or sympathy for the record industry. and if you ask them to order anything for you they make it seem like it would only be slightly less difficult than painting the sistine chapel. my first option now is ordering from goner or passout or interpunk. but if i want something immediately, if i need instant gratification i don't even bother going there, i'll go to laurie's. the only time i wind up at reckless now is if i'm bored with nothing to do. i'll walk to wicker park, do some people watching, flip through the stacks, hit the book stores then get an iced coffee from half and half and sit in the park and smoke and drink and watch the people again.

xpost, i've never been mocked (to my knowledge but then i'm not very observent/don't give a fuck) but god, if you ask anything of some clerks it's like they are SO put out. THAT pisses me off, it's just bad service. and on top of a crappy selection (for what i want) it leaves me with little reason to go there.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I was openly mocked by record store clerks at In Y0ur Ear, in Providence. for Kate Bush. motherfuckers.

― horsehoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i used to luuuuuurrrrrve in your ear in harvard square.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Doesn't that make THEM the losers, Roz? I dunno anything about 'er but the noize bored loves Kate Bush.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Glenn's Diner, a place a block away from Kr's apartment that specializes in seafood and also serves cereal all day.

...wow.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, the one in Providence has a good selection, or did when I lived there, but I hated those dudes. (yes, they were all dudes.)

xpost: totally, Laurel. so I can feel superior about it. but at the time, I got all flustered.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, like I said -- Reckless is a lousy place to go if you're looking for something in particular. I don't even fuck with new stuff there, I just flip through the "recent used" stack and see if I can find something I've always kinda-wanted for $7.99.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

...wow

haha, I knew you'd have this reaction!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to have breakfast there. I'm gonna have all my meals scheduled (Fiesta Mexicana, Lawrence's, Ashkenaz, etc.).

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Glenn Fahlstrom, one of the original partners of Evanston's Davis Street Fishmarket, has opened this diner in the former Andalucia address in Ravenswood. Fahlstrom tells us he's "reinventing the diner," adding subtle twists to classic items for better flavor profiles (like adding chives and red onions to the potato pancakes and a slice of maple honey ham to the burgers). All-day breakfast includes buttermilk pancakes and about 25 varieties of cereal poured tableside, just like mom used to do (BTW, the cereal is all-you-can-eat, you just pay for additional milk or fruit add-ins). Lunch offers sandwiches like a steak sandwich and carved-to-order chicken sandwich. Dinner offers about a dozen fresh fish specials; check out the large blackboards on the dining room's walls. Fahlstrom toned down the former vibrant-hued dining room; look for white walls, dark cherry tables and wainscoting, plus a cubbyhole wall stocked with cereal boxes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

My 9th grade English teacher (in Australia) was a HUGE Kate Bush fan. He made us analyze a bunch of her lyrics most everyone hated it. I thought it was better than reading some shitty anthology.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I am really making a play for the Shit Typing Award today.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

In my snooty record store clerk defense:

1. I was 18 - 21.
2. My open mocking was reserved for people with no musical imagination, ie "I need a song for my daughter's wedding. Do you have the one about kissing butterflies?"
3. During my second record store clerk stint at 27 I openly mocked no one.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

aw! sometimes I think it might be fun to assign song lyrics if I were to teach high school, but I imagine it's always more fun for the teacher than anyone else.

John, you're making me hungry.

xpost: oh, I get why people do it. I'm sure I'd do it in my head if I worked retail at a bookstore. I was easily intimidated by indie rock boys at that point in my life anyway. I'd be able to handle it if it happened now.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

There was a lot of behind-the-back mocking, but this was at the HEIGHT of the ska/"electronica" era so I dare anyone to have done any better than I.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

if i were in your shoes jenny i'm sure i would have lost my job for refusing to sell that type of filth.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

My seventh grade sociology teacher asked us all to bring in song lyrics once class and read them aloud. I brought "In Your Eyes" by Peter Gabriel but had never really read them before and totally got the giggles during the "drive off in my car" part, which comes across kind of dorkalicious when read by a seventh grader. My friend Karen read "Add It Up" by the Violent Femmes and got up to "I look at your pants" before he stopped her.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Perhaps not the most well thought out lesson plan....

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I never mocked anyone openly as a record store clerk and I was working there during the TEEN POP EXPLOZIONE. Our staff had a really wide range of interests though, which was a relief.

I saved my energy for following people I thought would buy things I liked and trying to see what they were looking at. It was more positive stalking than negatively-charged derision.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, when I was living out in the burbs the guys at R3cord Br3ak3rs in Hoffman Estates were always harassing people about their purchases. Thing was, they had like the shittiest taste ever and were always arguing about what screamo band was better. The vinyl selection was great for a suburban store, but man, I fucking hated shopping there.

― jonviachicago, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm guessing people bought Chemical Brothers and Cherry Poppin' Daddies just because they were next to each other in the bin.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

someone was telling me about using Biggie's "Warning" in an English class. which seemed like it would really work as long as everyone could handle the "adult language."

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

We had an assignment in 12th grade AP English to bring in a song that exemplified a "ballad" (we were doing a unit on lyric poetry)and talk about it. But we got extra credit if we wrote/performed a song ourselves. I may have been the only one who took the teacher up on this.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I read the lyrics to "Loser" in 10th grade English as "poetry" (not as my own, but I introduced it as being the the work of B. Hansen). The teacher, a complete dumbass if there ever was one, totally let it slide.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm guessing people bought Chemical Brothers and Cherry Poppin' Daddies just because they were next to each other in the bin.

You'd think but NO! We created special Ska and "Electronica" sections and became well known for having the best selection of both genres in lower Delaware (damning with faint praise for real). Chemical Bros was exactly the right era. It was the summer of Block Rockin' Beats, which I actually still think is a pretty catchy song.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I have never been able to figure out what he says in "Loser." Whores over Canada? Scores of what else is new?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, it was during a poetry unit that this person had used "Warning." the motivation being to try to make poetry more relatable.

― horsehoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I wrote some stupid sea shanty. The only song I remember someone else bringing in was a deep cut off Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness.

I have never been able to figure out what he says in "Loser." Whores over Canada? Scores of what else is new?

"Soy un perdidor." = "I'm a loser" en espanol.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

soy un perdedor. i'm a loser in spanish.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

man, I hated Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

horeshoe OTM.

i have a hard spot in my heart for the smashing pumpkins.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never heard the whole album, but "1979" is pretty choice.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

That song is okay and I liked Gish.

MOCK ME THAT IS FINE I CAN TAKE IT.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

"1979" is the exception to my hatred of that album. it was THE album of my high school and I could not get away from it. god. HATE.

xp: I have nothing against the Pumpkins except Billy Corgan seems like a douche. "1979" is super-pretty, but all my friends were obsessed with that album and I blame it for making them boring.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i heart hard-boiled

― grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

THE WORLD IS A VAMPIRE YOU GUYS SERIOUSLY

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

gish was good, lull was ok, but i saw them once and that bald fuck came onstage and said "sorry, i know we really suck tonight." AND THEN WENT RIGHT ON SUCKING.

fuck you, billy. and fuck me for spending $15 dollars on tickets to that 12 years ago.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

but all my friends were obsessed with that album and I blame it for making them boring.

Point taken.

except Billy Corgan seems like a douche.

I've prob mentioned this before (although not to you, Horseshoe) -- but my friend Katie worked as BC's personal assistant for a year. She says (of course) that he's "misunderstood."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA MISUNDERSTOOD

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I appreciate that kind of honesty! I've heard that he has a lot of trouble, how you say, singing, live.

I was never a big fan, but I still like most of their singles. I owned Siamese Dream for a minute when it was de rigueur. Great drumming.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

2x, that guy was an eye-opener back in the day.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, it's not even my usual thing, but Siamese Dream is pretty awesome.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

owned Siamese Dream for a minute when it was de rigueur. Great drumming.

yeah, in a studio where they can wait and wait and wait until his brain is clear of junk to get a decent take. lousy fucking singing, a drummer who was too fucked up to count to four, open hostility between bandmates on stage.... great show.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeff just sent me this link and it made me LOL for some reason: http://www.we-make-money-not-art.com/archives/009158.php

HS OTM w/r/t the many ways that other people ruin probably perfectly reasonable music. And Billy Corrigan's douchery. Probably Michael Stipe, too, but I was such a massive fangirl back in the day that I'll forgive MS for nearly anything except maybe buying sex slaves and torturing cats.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

LR: Pavement had some nasty lyrics about you on one of their albums. Did the groovy, indie scene turn on you when you got popular?

BC: Sure. But my whole thing is that people don't fall in love to Pavement, people don't get up in the morning before they go to school and put on Big Black. They put on Smashing Pumpkins or Hole or Nirvana, because these bands actually mean something to them. It's the difference between music you put on to take drugs to, and music you put on to live your life.

― jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavement_(band)


Billy Corgan, leader of The Smashing Pumpkins, threatened to drop The Smashing Pumpkins from the 1994 Lollapalooza Festival if Pavement was allowed to play. The Smashing Pumpkins were headlining Lollapalooza that year.

― jw (ex machina), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

hee, Jenny, you just reminded me of the time my sister borrowed a vampy lipstick of mine to go see R.E.M. in concert. she had intentions of seducing Michael Stipe. I didn't have the heart to point out how that totally wasn't going to work out for her. she lurved him.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

lol @ rock dudes

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

"smiling politely"

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

did i hear SM in an old navy commercial last night? the voice sounded familiar but the song wasn't.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

how about lol @ drama queens, especially out-of-touch ones

It kind of reminds me of like Zsa Zsa Gabor or something: "I used to be the most beautiful woman in the world. I used to be in pictures."

xpost

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

later chicago, i'm going to spend the night in a fully heated house! with dogs and cats and food and beer. i don't wanna go to work tomorrow already.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

About 88% of my personality in high school was that I was the biggest Smashing Pumpkins fan everyone knew. Go ahead! Hate me! It just makes me stronger!

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

the voice sounded familiar but the song wasn't.

Maybe it was ZWANN.

Heh, one of the dudes in my band started a rumor about another friend that he's a really big Zwann fan, and got really upset when they broke up. You should try it with someone you know, it's fun.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Malkmus wasn't in Zwan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh come on, EVERYONE was in Zwan!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

It was like USA for Africa!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok I am off to STATE MANDATED ETHICS TRAINING.
Tootles.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Zwan = bald egomaniac, Asian dude from Slint/Tortoise, scuzzy Oldham pal that n/a worships and Kelsey has a crush on, bald egomaniac's junkie buddy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

You forgot 3rd-string Hole bass player.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I read SM as SP. Whatever.

Btw, I've got my (non-dude) book club for Man with the Golden Arm tonight and we're meeting at a bar, so I plan on drinking in the style of the novel.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i.e., with a golden arm?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

No. With whiskey shots.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

"The music wasn't the big problem, it was more their attitude...Sex acts between band members in public. People carrying drugs across borders. Pajo sleeping with the producer's girlfriend while we were making the record." [1]

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

But the music was pretty bad, too.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I thought Pajo and Paz were sleeping together...?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

They might as well since they're apparently the same person

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 29 November 2006 23:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, I'm gonna out myself as a huge, huge Pumpkins fan right now... they were very, very hit or miss live, but some of their shows were absolutely killer. BC is a huge douche, but an underrated guitar player.

(xxxxpost)

― jonviachicago, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, Sarah, I knew I was going to end up being an asshole in bitching about Smashing Pumpkins. all of my favorite people in high school were huge SP fans!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 29 November 2006 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

OMGOMGOMGOMGOGMMGOMGMGMGMG! Comcast On Demand has a...

KARAOKE CHANNEL.

Fucking. Karaoke. Channel. On our tee vee.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 02:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Ahahahaha! Cannonball! "In the style of the Breeders."

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link

You know what else you can get ON DEMAND? Guitar lessons. There is a woman teaching Jeff how to play "Ironic" on TV right now.

There's also "dating on demand" that I watched on day when I was bored, but it was kind of depressing.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 02:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Complaining about the Smashing Pumpkins = not allowed. (I am a bigot.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:00 (seventeen years ago) link

NED RAGGETT do you want to come over and sing karaoke using our TV?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I am too tired and full of good food to move much.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:04 (seventeen years ago) link

You can sit on the couch.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Also on Comcast: "Rich Bitches"

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Also on Comcast: Cosplay Confessions.

God help us all.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:09 (seventeen years ago) link

"What cosplay character would I like to hook up with? I would have to say Lulu from Final Fantasy X..."

Here there be rofflz.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I had to look up cosplay.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sorry.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I actually think that cosplay is pretty neat. It's pretty creative and some of these weirdos are really talented. Some of them are really um, perverted, too.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Now Jeff is watching Dating on Demand. God, Comcast Cable is like the most amazing thing ever.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh my god this woman just said that she wanted somebody "fair skinneded."

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:34 (seventeen years ago) link

And her dream man is one who can hit her spot without her having to tell him anything.

She does hate it when people hum while they chew, which I can totally get behind.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:36 (seventeen years ago) link

You are sisters under the skinned.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:40 (seventeen years ago) link

No, wait, that's not right. It sounds...nevermind.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:43 (seventeen years ago) link

FEAR ME I AM WATCHING A HEROES MARATHON.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Uh oh. Retro Erotica time.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Porn seems positively charming when it's in black and white and narrated by the same guy who narrated "Lunchroom Manners."

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh how I long for the days when granny panties were sexy enough for pornos...

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 03:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I have never delve so deeply into On Demand. I have changed.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Thursday, 30 November 2006 04:43 (seventeen years ago) link

It's an amazing place.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 04:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Take, for example, the Comcast Personals video of "airmandude". He likes hanging out and drinking.

These are some of the most boring people in the world.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 05:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I got caught in the rain.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/rainface.jpg

It fucking sucked.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 30 November 2006 05:17 (seventeen years ago) link

brutal

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 05:18 (seventeen years ago) link

wait. admittedly, I am a little drunk. but I don't understand the karaoke channel. you watch people doing karaoke? or somehow you can do karaoke? if the latter: oh my god! I have Comcast On Demand. I am off to attempt karaoke on demand.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 30 November 2006 06:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't tell you just how hard an evening it was. Ct and I were on the 151 bus when another bus broke down on Chicago, crossing Michigan, blocking all of the N. Bound traffic. We waited forever. Then we went to the book signing
and
waited...
for....
f...i...v...e.....
h...o...u...r...s....

Amy S3daris was funny and she signed our books, but shit, that was a long fucking night.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 06:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, we went to a place that Ct and I would like to propose as a TT location. It was Devon Seafood on Chicago and Rush (I think). It's ritzy-glitzy, but their happy hour is pretty damn great, especially the cheap-ass seafood apps. 1 Lb crab legs= $10. 1 Lb Maine lobster = $11.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 06:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i just read "notes from underground" today because of that 1001 books thread. i really liked it a lot.

― t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Thursday, 30 November 2006 07:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Does Devon Seafood have $6.00 PBR buckets?

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Thursday, 30 November 2006 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Devon Seafood could be good for when it's time to have fancy drinks.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, I like the cut of yr glower.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link

there will be no TT for me tonight as i will still be in western 'burbs watching house and spastic dog and one of the cuddliest cats i've ever met.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Otto! How long was yr commute this morning?!

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:08 (seventeen years ago) link

it was HALF the time, only 45 minutes. and 23 minutes of that was the walk from N's house to the oak park blue line stop. if i had access to a bike i could've biked to the train in probably 7 or 8 minutes or biked to work in about 25.

it's about 25 degrees colder than it was yesterday though and raining so that 23 minute walk seemed to take forever. it kind of made me blue walking through oak park last night and this morning, lots of good memories in that village. saturday i'm going to do some xmas shopping and walk through the old neighborhood and spy on the old apartments. let the self-flagellation begin!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Think of the extra sleep! Yay.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Devon Seafood sounds nice, though I worry it might SMELL like seafood. Hmmm...

Why did you have to wait so long for the signing, Jesse? Were you early or was Sedaris late or was it just a long line??

I made pumpkin walnut bread to have for breakfast this morning, but I'm waiting for the coffee to finish brewing first.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Just so you know, that pumpkin bread is fuckin delish - perfectly fluffy, moist, and flavorful. If only I had packed more!

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Here are some cat videos:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6036658873440327262&q=cat
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6497257644936185526&q=cat

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Hee hee. I'd seen that first one, but not the second.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, I am supa jazzed. I just got the syllabus for my feminist jurisprudence class and I've already read half the books she assigned for it. Sweet!

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

ugh, i'm feeling a headache coming on. it feels like something is boring it's way through my left eye and out the back of my head.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel super calm and un-surpriseable today...maybe I finally got enough sleep?? I don't even know what that feels like.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe you have an earwig like Chekhov in Wrath of Kahn.

xpost to Kevin, but you know, maybe Laurel has one, too.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Can I just tell you that the Danes know how to make a god damn shoe? These clogs are the most comfortable shoes I've ever owned.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

They also write FANTASTIC fairy tales.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I would have paid $20 this morning to stay in the car listening to the reggae radio show and fall back asleep.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Fall back asleep in the car?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Why not?

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Kr is forever fantasizing about being paid to stay in bed all day.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i didn't get a great amount of sleep last night, i was in a strange bed that isn't as long as i am tall and i had an 80 pound dog sleeping next to me. and a kitty, we were all in one bed. i probably won't be getting much sleep tonight either but thank god tomorrow is the last day of work for the week.

saturday i'm hitting all my old oak park haunts, gonna go to breakfast at the maple tree (or if that's too crowded, to eric's), go to a movie at the lake theatre, lunch at new pot, do some shopping on oak park ave and lake street, do some people watching in scoville park, walk around my old neighborhood(s), maybe hit the pawn shops on north avenue then get a pizza at edwardo's.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, and of course go look at the f.l. wright houses north of chicago ave (which kind of ties into walking around my old 'hood). they always look so nice at xmas. rich people with good taste are a great combination for home decor.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I need to go check out Oak Park again. I bet it's very pretty all decorated.

Now that they are saying freezing plastic creates carcinogens, how edgy is that I'm currently consuming a half-frozen bottle of water?

I love being in bed. I used to think it would be awesome to be paid for sleep studies.

Someone recommend me a great starter site for crosswords. I never do them, but I want to start.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe Kr can find a sleep study that pays.

xpost!!

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

dunno but the guy who drives the water truck said temps have fallen about 10 degrees since he started work at 7 am, he said he has ice on his windows now. :(

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Kr and I have been talking about going out to Oak Park on a weekend. She's never been. Which at first I thought was weird, but I've only been there so often because a) I have family there, and b) we used to rehearse out there.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

best times of my life were spent there. haven't been back in a while.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh but what I was going to ask: Is there a Fr Ll Wright tour of some sort? I'm sure there is. Someone tell me about it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Spooning dogs in bed may not be classy, but it's CLASSIC. Especially when it's this cooooooooooooooooold.

In other news, I think I may have an injured wrist! I can barely write a sentence, though typing does not seem to be a problem.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm thinking about doing this THING where I obsess about one topic for an entire month and do as much as I can to drown myself in information about that subject. Then the next month I would pick something new. I need a new hobby of sorts. This way, I might actually learn something. Also, it will up my quirkiness quotient.

I was going to wait and do it in 2007, but I might as well get a jump start since December starts tomorrow. Any ideas on what my first topic should be?

xpost - YES! I went on it with my Dad. Well, we did a house tour anyway. It was very interesting. I'll find you a site. Then we just walked around together on our own around the neighborhood.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Here you go, John

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

yes there is, jen was a docent at the flw home & studio when we first met. it's pretty interesting it's a guided tour of the flw homes around his home and studio on chicago ave. depending on the guide it can be pretty informative. i'd recommend going in the spring, as walking for 30-45 minutes in the cold can be pretty brutal plus if there's snow on the ground you won't get to see some of the details of the houses.

once a year there's a fundraiser for the flw home & studio where the owners of the houses will let the tour come INTO the house so you can see the interior details but that's big $$$ (relatively) and i've never gone.

but the tour is fun, if the weather is crappy you can always take the tour of the home and studio, it's interesting, indoors, and gives you some insight into flw.

xpost to john.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm thinking about doing this THING where I obsess about one topic for an entire month and do as much as I can to drown myself in information about that subject.

Sounds like you already have a hobby right there.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Opium
Communes
Stem cell research
Tuberculosis
Lady scientists
Greenland

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

You can't even go INSIDE the houses on the tour? That's bullshit. I could drive around the outside of 'em myself.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

The history of indoor plumbing
Rats and their habits
Gypsies and their lifetstyle
Sudan
Alexander Graham Bell
Prehistoric man

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

yes but you wouldn't know the stories behind the houses. would you know which was the house where he met his mistress? and that she left her husband and he left his wife and kids and ran off together? or which houses got him fired from the employ of louis sullivan because he was doing side work when he still owed sullivan money (they are now known as "the bootleg houses")? or which houses were built before his trip to japan and which were post?

xpost to laurel.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah's first project: Learn everything you can about the former owners of the now defunct K3mp M1ll Records.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Btw, has anyone read The Omnivore's Dilemma? It's the next book club book (not my pick).

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I could look all of those things up on the internet, or in books about FLW of which there are more than a few. But okay, to get the info pre-compiled for you I guess the exterior tour's all right.

Jordan, no, but it's on my reading list.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Those homes are privately owned, but the house/studio is more of a museum.

I know, Jordan. I meant I'm thinking of doing that as my new hobby.

Thanks for the ideas, Amanda! I like the Opium suggestion especially because I was fascinated by the Opium dens during my Colette obsession.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

luckily i used to live with someone who gave the tour so i got the info gratis anyway. though we did pay for the tour when her parents came to town once.

whenever our folks would visit we'd treat them like we were baby sitting 4 year olds, walk them until they're exhausted, feed them constantly, and take lots of naps.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

xxpost Ooh! I've been meaning to read that! Michael Pollan is awesome.

Interview with him here:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5336252

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, NYT review

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Second project: Uncover my address in Truckee, CA in early 1995.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha, Jenny.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

One idea I had was Orchids. I've always liked them, but know nothing about them. Plus, my curriculum could include reading the Orchid Thief, which I've been meaning to do.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe I should only study subjects that begin with the letter O, just to be as weird as possible.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Oreos
Orange Juice (the band)
Orangutans
Opthamology
Orang Juice (the juice)
Orenthal James Simpson
Origami
Orchards, Apple
Orchards, Pear
Optical Illusions
Original Sin

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I could study O magazine!

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Origam is a good one, making little weird things out of band flyers is always a good party trick.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

You forgot orgasms.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

no, i just exercised that solitary grain of decorum i have.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Good thing I'm around, then!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

It was too much to hope for that Otto and Kenan could be exercising decorum at the same exact time, I know. (XP)

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Did I tell you guys about my family drama a while back? My frenchie sis posted some nude pix online and emailed all the relatives to check them out. WELL.. not quite... She posted a link to her husband's photography site which included topless pix of her at the beach, which is apparently no biggie in Le France. Anyway, my mom saw them and flipped out, naturally. That was a while ago. My dad never reacted because he don't know nuffin' bout no internets and never followed the links.

Anyway, all the relatives were together at Thanksgiving and one of my superconservative uncles took my dad on a private walk to discuss his daughter's evildoings. So, that's how my dad found out! And it looks like it's going to be getting ugly.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

This family gossip brought to you by the letter O.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

lol

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i love, honor, and respect my parents and everything but i also have no problem with telling them to fuck right off when need be. just because you are someone's son or daughter doesn't mean you aren't an adult capable of making your own decisions.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

link plz

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm held responsible for Nick using the phrase "Saturdays are for fuckin' and feedin'" in Summertime, but other than that my record has been pretty squeaky clean the last year or so... as far as my dad knows. BWAH HA HA HA!

I got over being a disappointment to my relatives back when I was 12 and they announced that, no matter what I chose to do with my life, I would be going to hell regardless since my parents got divorced.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

B-b-but going topless on the beach in France where it's culturally acceptable is a total Our Bodies, Ourselves thing to do! Tell you're mom that she's clearly just very comfortable in her body, thanks to her feminist upbringing.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Where should I eat lunch, Chicago? And who in the loop is unbusy at noon and wants to eat lunch with me?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks Sarah and Kevin!

Second project: Uncover my address in Truckee, CA in early 1995.

You lived in Truckee? Isn't this the city that always has the lowest temperature in the U.S.?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

You want to eat delicious udon noodles from Tokyo Lunchbox. I do too, but I have crockpot curry to eat.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

This family gossip brought to you by the letter O.

http://media.bestprices.com/content/isbn/86/0929654986.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh shit *I* want to eat udon noodles!

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

"Saturdays are for fuckin' and feedin'"

I've never noticed this line!

As long as Matt's mom is alive, there will be no swearing in C4n4st4 songs.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

John: I dunno. It was pretty cold when I lived there, but I try not to think about it. Miserable, shithole of a town.

Amanda: Hmm... maybe. But it's right by work and I'm at school and if I go eat there, odds are good I'll skip my last class. And I probably shouldn't.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Miserable, shithole of a town.

Did you spend a lot of time in Reno and Tahoe?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Truckee! That's where I played that wedding over the summer, and rode around in the back of a pickup truck drinking and singing gospel songs.

Reno seemed pretty depressing, except for the taco stand we stopped at.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Tahoe is pretty. Reno is... also miserable. But it's a lot easier to find a $5 blackjack table than in Vegas.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

John, I think you and your weird feet should try a pair of these Dansko clogs. They are expensive, but footprints.com sells them and you can wear them around for two months and then send them back if you don't like them anymore. I'd go to a regular store to find your size, though, since Danes do some wacky sizing (these are a 42N and I usually wear a 40 regular).

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

...is a total Our Bodies, Ourselves thing to do...
I totally tried that. My mom's confused though. Half the time she's a woman's libber and the other half she's telling us we all better settle down soon before it's too late. Anyway, she sees this move as pornographic and unfeminist. She even said her big fear is that my sister would be STALKED and RAPED because of the photos. I mean, they are so tame they wouldn't appear in playboy. That said, I still wouldn't feel right posting a link to them.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

(xp) Okay!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I was just being a perv. I do not really want to see your sister's tah tahs.

She even said her big fear is that my sister would be STALKED and RAPED because of the photos.

haha That's great.

The internet is a system of tubes, you know, just big enough for a rapist to crawl through.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Odds on my plane being delayed and/or cancelled seem to be rising. Stupid weather.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Also, she thinks any day now she'll stumble across a site with porno films starring my sister. This makes me wonder if she's actively searching for them, just to prove a point.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

The hysteria about porn and rape is a bit much, but I can tell you all honestly that I would not want topless photos of myself posted on the internet. That's the same as if they were on the wall of a far-off closet. They might not be in Newsweek or Playboy, but they are still accessible. No thanks. It's alright if they're floating around in a drawer somewhere, but I would rather keep my boobings under wraps as far as the general public is concerned.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

John, do you have a link to any kind of huge list of 2006 records?

I don't know if I'm going to be able to write a top 10 list for that local blog this year. I guess I didn't hear that much, and some stuff that would be on my list would only be there for a few tracks (Ghostface, Roots, Jay-Z).

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I know, Amanda. I wouldn't either. That said, everyone needs to get over it because it's turned into this thing.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

In other news, I'm winning a bid on ebay for a cute cake topper. Eep!

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

For your wedding?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes. It's this one.

HA HA HA J/k

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan: the closest thing I can think of is Metacritic, although they just list the 30 best-reviewed albums of the year and then a sidebar of, oh, about 100 or so "new and recent releases."

Some blogger just asked C4n4st4 to do a top-5 albums list, so naturally Matt sent it along to me. I am going to spend today deciding whether Joanna Newsom, Destroyer, or Grizzly Bear gets my #5 slot (after Girl Talk, Sonic Youth, Final Fantasy, and Junior Boys).

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost No, it's a vintage one. The guy especially looks like Nick.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

If anyone wants a YSI of the first Tristeza record (since we were talking about post rock the other day), email me. I've been trading with peeps.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I had just looked at metacritic.

Here's what I have so far:

Justin Timberlake
Ghostface
Roots
Squarepusher
Thom Yorke
Tortoise
Jay-Z (actually fives of the tracks + the bonus live disc)

There must be some stuff I'm not thinking of but nothing really comes to mind. Wait, did Raw Yang come out this year? :>

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh and Prince, and Y0ungblood, I think I can do this.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Raw Yang did come out this year, yes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

No longer writing for $tylu$ = no more free downloadable albums, waaah! I'd like to hear Jay-Z but I'm not buying that shit. I'm also trying to download the Lady Sovereign album piecemeal from Limewire. I don't remember what else.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Whenever I think about this, my list tends to get really unwieldy. But I have a few things really solid:

Junior Boys
Man Man
The Hold Steady
Destroyer
Boris
Thom Yorke
Tom Waits
OOIOO
The Roots
Tortoise
Michael Mayer - Immer 2
Lindstrom
Booka Shade
Xiu Xiu
Sparklehorse
Ellen Allien & Apparat

and lots and lots of other things.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 30 November 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, it's a little chilly outside.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Gah, I don't want to walk outside for lunch. I'm getting hungry.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

If I had been wearing anything more than two thin layers of Amer|can Appar3l cotton, I would have been fine.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh shit, does Roisin Murphy count as 2006? If so that's definitely on there.

I went home and ate a hot dog for lunch. Again.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I'm leaving at about 4 today. I stayed late yesterday and came in early today. Fuck everything, I want heat and cats.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I am not arguing about bands I've never heard of on the internet.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to leave at 4 today to try and find a 59 or 55 bus to Midway.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I am not arguing about bands I've never heard of on the internet.

haha No, there's no arguing! Just listing. It's a lot like arguing, only quietly passive-aggressive.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Ahh, that must be it. I am more...aggressive-aggressive.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

i just walked back from lunch at it is fucking bone-rattling cold out there. it's supposed to be even colder tomorrow? fuck, looks like i should've saved my flannel-lined pants for then.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

It is cold! It's glorious! Yay cold! Booo 60 degree raining weather in December. That's some NC shit, there.

I'm sorry that you are under dressed though, Dan. I did that yesterday - I dressed for the day's high but neglected to factor in the precipitous drop in temperature forecast to happen before I finished my night class.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought I was being smart by wearing a lighter jacket because the weather in Nashville has been in the 70s... but I just checked the forecast again and it's supposed to snow there this weekend! I'll believe it when I see it. Plus I have a chook and I'm a Yooper, so I'll be fine.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

My coat is good to like -40 degrees.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm decked out in the coat you gave me, and it's juuuust fine out there. I forgot the gloves Dan gave me, though. Tomorrow.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

My real winter coat is probably at about that level, and my back-up/bar coat Carhartt is the warmest most bulletproof thing ever. Too bad the cat puked on it >:(

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

xmas gift idea:

http://www.spoonsisters.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/51321.jpg

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

BOO:

"Tonight...Snow. Snow may be heavy at times after midnight. Snow accumulation of 3 to 5 inches. Windy. Lows in the lower 30s. Northeast winds 20 to 30 mph. Gusts up to 35 mph in the evening increasing to 45 mph after midnight. Chance of precipitation 100 percent.

Friday...Snow in the morning...Then a chance of snow in the afternoon. Colder. Snow may be heavy at times in the morning. Snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Total snow accumulation 5 to 9 inches. Very windy. Highs in the lower 30s. North winds 25 to 35 mph with gusts to around 45 mph in the morning becoming northwest 20 to 30 mph with gusts to around 40 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 100 percent. "

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I like everything about that except for "very windy."

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

http://images.google.com/url?q=http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6306010513.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg&usg=__7GEpTXRp5iYgsZdz7QNhr3LtBmk=

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

The temp in my office is roughly FIFTY DEGREES. Mother of pearl it is COLD in here.

Tomorrow is my SATURDAY! Yay. I would love some brandy-laced coffee right now.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel, you can talk about bands that we've never heard of, like Subway Sect.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

brandy
coffee
brandy
coffee
warm
belly

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going to the grocery store when I get home today and then I'm going to do dishes and tidy up the house because tomorrow all I'm doing is staying inside and studying and drinking coffee.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Around 6 pm I plan to start tipping booze into that coffee.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

You're waiting that long?

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

That's some willpower, mah sistah.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Me too me too except maybe I will make some more cookies. I made the butter-cookie-with-Andes-mint-inside cookies on Sunday and I have some dough left. They also have a melted Andes mint drizzle on top.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i really REALLY wish i wasn't working tomorrow. and i really, REALLY, REALLY wish i wasn't covering for someone tomorrow because otherwise i'd bang in. instead i'm going to have to fight through the snow and not drink tonight.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

at least you won't be working on saturday, and i will.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Man oh man those cookies sound good.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

That's some willpower, mah sistah.

No, that's two in-class exams, one take home exam, and a 30 page paper due in the next two weeks.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

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― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

"searches" = hits

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Is there going to be TT next week? I reckon I could be up for something like that.

In-class exams are so much more humane than take-homes. GIT 'ER DONE.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

i hope so because i'm going to try to take the 8th off and get my christmas shopping done. might as do it hungover, eh?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

(and kenan, that would be a perfect spot for a "sounds like my...")

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Is Kevin giving lessons in being the peanut gallery now?!?? BONUS!

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I looooved take-home exams, mostly because I've always liked essay-style tests over short answers/multiple choice/etc. Also I am a masochist when it comes to schoolwork, I guess.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

We had hot toddies last night!

What is zune?

Amanda, did you notice I made pumpkin bread? I'm so proud of my newfound cooking abilities. You should post recipes on the blog more often so I can try some out. I made your fruit crisp back when you posted it...or emailed it to me... can't remember.

I'm so jealous of the staying in tomorrow! On the other hand, I get to break out my snow boots.

I remember when we first moved here and it snowed alot and I was thinking, Wow! They must get a ton of snow days here! Then I learned that most places never close due to snow and I cried and cried.

I'll be up for TT next week, but also yous guys could come to our show for free and drink there Monday.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I hate take-homes. for lazy people like me, in-class is always better.

xpost: where is your show, Sarah?

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

What is zune?

Microsoft's (wrong) answer to the iPod.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

for lazy people like me, in-class is always better.

OTM

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

In-class can still be essay. It's just that you don't have to spend your home-time writing it.

I did notice that you made pumpkin bread. I'm glad you have discovered that cooking isn't that hard (it's not) -- you just need to have the ingredients and desire to put them together. Yay! I use the J of C basic cookie recipe for cookies and then adapt as I please. Usually I am too lazy to type it out and post though. :(

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

horseshoe, it's at the empty bottle.
sarah, i'll be there unless i fall asleep on my couch when i get home from work like i have the last 3 mondays.

are mondays still $1.25 pbr nights at the bottle?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I just felt more confident, like I had more time to digest the questions and make sure I had my ducks in a row with take-homes. Plus I'm starting to think I'm dyslexic or something, so the extra time was handy.

This was mainly for my Social Sciences/Humanities classes... hard science take-homes are always NASTY.

xpost: I'm gonna try to make it too if this weekend doesn't kill me.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh oh I could maybe make the FF show! Matt's playing with BR1GHT0N MA at Sub-T, so our usual Monday night practice has been moved to Sunday.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I can totally make it on Monday. yay!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan, I know what you mean about having more time to digest, but if I'm given a lot of time, I'll TAKE a lot of time, and then my whole day is gone before I know it. One reason why I hate writing sometimes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

John, are you me?

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going to check out Joy of Cooking soon.

I use the same basic muffin recipe from a betty crocker cookbook all the time and I love how versatile it can be.

I don't know about the pbrs...

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm glad you guys might be able to make it! Woo hoo! Apparently there is a little blurb in the reader about it. It's all about MMen, but it's still awesome they wrote something about the show. :-D

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 30 November 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, horseshoe, we've established this.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

:)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Most of my exams are essay, in class or out. In-class exams take three hours (I have never NOT needed at least 2:45 for an exam) and are usually one to three questions long and are sometimes closed book. Plus I have to hand write my exams and the longest one I've ever written took up THREE blue books. BRUTAL.

Take home exams are like fucking cake, comparatively. I prefer a take home exam or full on paper over an in-class exam any day.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

With inclass exams I like the idea that everyone is writing the exam in their own handwriting, which these days seems a little quaint. (And eliminates the possibility of cheating.)
I also love looking at other people's handwriting as mine veers increasingly toward old-lady chicken scratch.

Sarah if you don't get the JoC I will buy it for you for your wedding. How's that?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't like reading students' handwriting though, so there's that too, I guess.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

my college required that we handwrite our application essay.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, we can either write our exams or use this cagey software called "SofTest" that does not work on a Mac platform, which of course is the kind of laptop I have. It's also notoriously unreliable and every student I know has had to ditch the computer and use a blue book for at least one exam in his or her law school career.

xpost - good grief! I wonder why?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I hate writing by hand, my hand always gets really tense and painful.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

xp - it's so they can take it to a handwriting analyst and see into your soul.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I think out of some misguided notion that it would give the admissions staff a more personal sense of us, or something. it just seems very impractical and like a lot of deserving students with unreadable handwriting might not get full consideration. i have very good handwriting, though.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I forgot to tell you guys that this morning I spied a young hipster listening to Richard Marx on his ipod.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

IRONICALLY i'm sure.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Richard Marx is a
REPEAT OFFENDER
http://www.still-life-vinyl.com/images/3714.jpg

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

His hair accounts for about 8% of his total height there.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Sez the tall guy in the back.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I laughed at the hipster. You can't sit there and listen to "Hold on to the Night" without me laughing a little bit. Sorry, kiddo.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

HOLD ON TO THE MAAAAAAAAAAMMARIES

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

if only that were an option.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

1. we waited that long because we showed up at 6:50 for the signing and there were 1 million people there. And she did a reading for those who arrived early, so that ate up a long time.

2. Devon does not smell like seafood. Good seafood restaurants never do. Courtney and I discussed how it would make a great TT place, but we were concerned that we might have a poor turnout because some people might think it was too pricey. Drinks are about normal. No $6 buckets of PBR, but not over the top either. The apps make it all worthwhile.

3. Snow. That's ok with me I guess. I don't care.

4. Amy S. signed my Strangers w/ Candy DVD.

ihttp://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000HC2OBO.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V39796032_.jpg

She wrote on her ass "I'm thinkin bout pussy" (because she's lusting after the girls in the background, you know) and scratched out "thumbs" from "two thumbs up" and wrote "dicks."

The hispanic guy in front of us in line said "I wanted you to sign my ass," to which she replied, "No, I need a flat surface and everybody knows you Mexicans have those big asses. Sorry, it's late and I'm punchy. And racist."

― this is not jenny, but it is jesse (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Richard Marx was one of the 80's most tortured troubadours, though this is not always apparent from the highly produced pop sound that send him to the top of the charts. Just beneath this facade is a man prone to despair and existential angst, expressed blankly in his guileless poetry. Consider the 1987 hit, "Don't Mean Nothin'":

Cause it dont mean nothin
The words that they say
Dont mean nothin
These games that people play
No, it dont mean nothin
No victim, no crime
It dont mean nothin
Till you sign it on the dotted line

Here in a single chorus he expresses not only a feeling of personal emptiness, but spits bile in the face of the very record companies that sustained him. The song also suggests a national emptiness brought on by the heartless greed of the Reagan years.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 30 November 2006 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

oops

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000HC2OBO.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_V39796032_.jpg

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Truly, Richard Marx deserves to be our National Poet Laureate.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 30 November 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't want to go back to work because i hate my job so much

― jesse here (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

and work makes me want to be dead

― jesse (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 30 November 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

there was some beef between him and chicagoist or gapersblock a month or so back. i guess the guy still lives in the area and makes tons of $$$ as a song doctor.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

WELCOME TO MY WORLD JESSE.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

or jenny, whichever.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess the guy still lives in the area and makes tons of $$$ as a song doctor.

Yup, he's written a bunch of pop-country songs, actually.

Some theatre professor at my college who retired before I had the pleasure of taking a class from him was apparently good friends with Richard Marx -- as in RM was the guy he called when he was visiting Chicago and looking for a place to stay.

"Hazard" is pretty good.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 November 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

His wiki entry lists an assload of people he's worked with. He's been busier than you'd guess.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 30 November 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

later chicago.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 30 November 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Would I like Richard Marx?

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Thursday, 30 November 2006 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I'm going to do some serious booze restocking after work. I'm talking beer, prosecco, irish cream, that starbucks liquor business, vodka...

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 30 November 2006 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Would I like Richard Marx?

LOLZ

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 December 2006 01:18 (seventeen years ago) link

prosecco

Isn't that just a fancy word for ham?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 December 2006 01:21 (seventeen years ago) link

All those Jesse posts were Jesse.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 02:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I just shoplifted again. I didn't even set out to. They made it too easy. I went to one register, and they said, "Closed. Go to the register over there." Well, over there was a long-ass way away, and in between was an exit. So I just left. Like they watch for that shit. Please. Saved myself a good $20.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 December 2006 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I got a horrifying phone call this afternoon from ComEd (the electric company). They said they're going to turn my electricity off on the 6th unless I pay them $180 right now. I know for a stone-cold fact that I do not owe ComEd $180. So this afternoon I called them. Seems that my electric account is all paid up and totally on time, which was almost as much a surprise to me as anything else. It's Jessa's account that's horribly overdue, and subject to be turned off, and somehow that's still in my name. I explained that this is my ex, and acted extra surprised, and begged them to please not turn her electricity off, that I would talk to her. They gave her an extra month and took the account out of my name. Nice.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 December 2006 03:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know why I LOLed at "so I just left." But it is making me laugh still.


"prosecco"

Isn't that just a fancy word for ham?

Are you joking? (In case you're not--Italian sparkling wine = prosecco; prosciutto = ham.)

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 December 2006 05:23 (seventeen years ago) link

http://mail.google.com/mail/?attid=0.1&disp=emb&view=att&th=10f3b3c18564a17a

Courtney sent me this and asked me to diseminate it. I don't quite get it.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 December 2006 05:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh. Wait. Star Trek.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 December 2006 05:24 (seventeen years ago) link

In case you're not--Italian sparkling wine = prosecco; prosciutto = ham

I was joking.

Holy crap is it snowing.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 December 2006 06:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Greetings, People of the Great Lake! It is late at night, and I haven't gone to sleep yet and this thread came to the top of New Answers and I clicked on it and it seems to already be approaching browser-busting length and I don't have time to read all of it, and i can't figure any of it out but it seems there are a lot of pictures of a kind of cute woman named Saywhat? who is most often photographed eating potato salad or something like that, but I just wanted to tell you that I really enjoyed meeting those of you who came to NYC for CMJ- jaymc, nick and sarah (nabisco was already here and doesn't seem to post to these threads anyway) and i guess i see ailsa posted as well so i don't feel so bad bumrushing your thread and i'll stop now k-thx stop.

― Ruud Haarvest (KenL), Friday, 1 December 2006 06:33 (seventeen years ago) link

haha You're fluttery! Like snow!

That was an awesomely messy post. Welcome very much.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 December 2006 07:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I seem to vaguely recollect an It's Snowing thread from late at night two years ago where the only ILX0rs still awake were you, me, jaymc and teeny.

― Ruud Haarvest (KenL), Friday, 1 December 2006 07:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Hello!

The bus was SO crazy this morning. It was the most packed I've ever seen it. An old czech lady was smushed between a bookbag and the door. A huge jerkoff refused to move out of the way for people and kept saying, "I'm from east LA! You best not mess with me! Stop shoving! I'm for real!" Every time we stopped, I had to jump back off the bus and into a pile of slush to let people out. It was all very dramatic.

Anyway, now I'm at my desk listening to Wilco.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 1 December 2006 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

By the way, I did decide on ORCHIDS for my December topic, so please feel free to email me recommendations, including but not limited to: any songs by bands with the word Orchid in their name or songs with the word Orchid in the title, books you'd recommend, personal stories involving orchids, movies about orchids, places to see orchids...

― Calico (calico), Friday, 1 December 2006 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

i had to wait 40 minutes for a bus today. it's extra freaking awful out there today. plus i get to go back to the place i'm staying and shovel the sidewalks, which sucks because the house is on a corner lot.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 1 December 2006 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Bands: The Orchids
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orchids

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm 15 minutes late to work, and I'm still home. I called in late. REALLY late. Fuck this shit.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

looks like we're closing down early, i may be out of here at noon. if so i'm heading to oak park for lunch at flat top and borat at the lake.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

can we discuss something that doesn't revolve around breasts, please?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

all tits all day, huh?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

get one sense of humor

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

would prefer two breasts.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

weh

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, so in front of the desk i'm sitting at today is a window. out this window is a grass area about 50 yards by 50 yards surrounded on 3 sides by a series of buildings. it tends to create a weird circular wind thing in the field. so just a moment ago there was a strong gust that pulled up snow from the ground and blew it into the air. the gust was so strong and lasted so long that it looked like snow was falling in reverse, going from the ground into the sky.

this is the end of days, isn't it. c'mon, you can tell me.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I am working from home today, on the futon, under a comforter, a cat sleeping on my lap. It's nice.

― n/a (n/a), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

my friend has the most affectionate cat ever but her dog chases him away whenever kitty tries to get my attention. the dog doesn't realize he weighs roughly 70 lbs more than the kitty.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost I think I may make an argument for doing the same.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 December 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Did any of you get stuck around the red line chicago stop fire?!?!?! Dan almost had to be evacuated! I was worried.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Orchids sounds like a good topic, Sarah!

http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/044900371X.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Ugh. I had to drive Emm4 downtown this morning, and the roads were completely horrible and it took like AN HOUR. Then I tried to call in sick but it didn't take, so here I am at work (and I'll have to make up a couple hours tonight or this weekend), and I have a headache from putting off coffee for too long.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, this morning was ridiculous. I just got to work a few minutes ago because I had to a) scrape off my car, b) drive to Kr's place to pick up the gift certificate to Redhead Piano Bar, where we're going tonight, and c) wait for the Brown Line, all while d) stomping through wet snow with e) more snow blowing into my hair and face and f) carrying a box of 40 CDs.

Then I tried to call in sick but it didn't take

Haha. How so?

I shouldn't post too much today because I am hoping to finish editing this gigantic 18-page article about The Year in Computers.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Red line fire? Amanda, Dan is okay, I take it?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Then I tried to call in sick but it didn't take

I did the same thing. I'm resentfully going to work.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/movie/adaptation/13.jpeg

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm confused. I thought that snow didn't faze Chicago? Why is it such a cluster fuck out there? I feel like I'm back in NC.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah -- he's alright. Apparently he was on the last train that made it to Chicago before things got all messed up, but he was trapped underground for the better part of an hour. Scary.

In other news, I think I have some sort of wrist problem! It has hurt severely for days now. I made doc appt. I feel old and creaky.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha. How so?

I said I was calling in sick for the morning, but then I hedged and mumbled something about car trouble. I should know by now that my boss is a nice guy but he's strictly by the book, and you must be SICK to take a sick day. He was all "well, accounting doesn't allow you to use that time for anything other than being sick, so...".

Basically I'm forced to lie so he has plausible deniability, I guess, not that anyone would ever question it.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Like that time I couldn't use a sick day when I missed my flight out of New Orleans, but if I had been SICK and missed my flight it would've been cool.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Personally speaking, I was unprepared for the snow because the first snowfall of the year wasn't just a light dusting, it was a serious fucking snowfall -- and also because IT WAS IN THE MID-60s ON TUESDAY.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

In a way, laziness is a sickness.

― n/a (n/a), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Better dose up the lazy people with Lyproxin, or Epetrex in a pinch. These drugs have been specifically designed to cure laziness with a mininum of side effects.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

omg i just got an email from a student telling me that she can't come to class tomorrow. she signed it

"west wishes"

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Friday, 1 December 2006 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.midlandmemorabilia.co.uk/IMAGES/ADAM%20WEST%20SIGNED%20PHOTO.JPG

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

hey, i'm going to the bookstore to do some xmas shopping and i'll be picking up a book for myself, anyone reading anything that's knocked their socks off? blown wind up their skirt? otherwise affected their clothing?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

http://thewizardofoz.warnerbros.com/movie/img/photos/photo5.jpg

West wishes, my pretties!

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I am thoroughly enjoying BITCHfest: Ten Years of Cultural Criticism from the Pages of Bitch Magazine. Also good: Death in the Haymarket: A Story of Chicago, the First Labor Movement, and the Bombing That Divided Gilded Age America and Radical Unionism in the Midwest, 1900-1950.

Wow. I can't wait for break and fiction.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Death in the Haymarket and Radical Unionism in the Midwest are two different books. Sorry.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I am bored with that Simon Reynolds book. So I went to the library the other day and got THE RULES OF ATTRACTION by BRET EASTON ELLIS and THE BLIND ASSASSIN by MARGARET ATWOOD.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

i almost bought death in the haymarket last time i was at the bookstore! when i was an everyday green line rider i used to look for the spot of the riot on my trips into the loop, it's a parking lot now. :(

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

THE BLIND ASSASSIN is partially on the recommendation of that bartender at that one bar that I met Jeff and Jenny at before we went to Hema's Kitchen with those people, you know the dude who looks like Tom Cruise? But remember the bartender who was like quoting Margaret Atwood poems at us?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I keep meaning to read The Blind Assassin. I just bought the new Richard Powers novel, The Echo Maker.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

That just won the National Book Award, right?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

yes! I've been so out of the (contemporary) fiction loop I hadn't even realized he had a new novel.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Where's Jesse? I had a dream about him last night where he brought a witch* into our house to do cocaine in our bathroom but I was trying to take a bath, sort of, or just make a tub full of non-newtonian fluid with baking soda and water (I was trying to walk on the bath water but kept failing) and our landlord, or a representative of the property company anyway, was hanging out in our living room and suggested that maybe we shouldn't let Jesse stay with us anymore if he was going to bring witches over to do coke in the bathroom.

*

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoops.

* http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/4690/serenacz3.jpg

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

For Laurel, if you haven't already seen it (though I suspect you probably have).

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I had not, despite the fact that one of our books is reviewed in it! Esp like the end bit re GOODNIGHT, MOON. She's right.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, we had a huge house party and I ran into this guy I used to have a big old crush on in high school and he was kind of puffy and old looking (as happens alas) and he had ten kids by a number of different women and he kept picking me up and saying, "Wow, I can't believe it's you!" and then I spilled a cooler full of ice and raw chicken all over the floor and accidentally wiped my hands on one of his ten kids and he got angry and stopped talking to me.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, I just read THE BLIND ASSASSIN. It was pretty alright. Goes on a little too long.

I am reading a nonfiction book about the birth and the eventual death of the universe. It's actually really readable, but I'm still having trouble motivating myself to read it because I've gotten lazy about having to think about what I'm reading. It's all sciencey.

I want to read the new Pynchon, as well as this novel called "Measuring the World" by some German author, and that poisons book that Laurel mentioned, but I have all 3 on my amazon wishlist so I have to wait until after xmas and see if anyone gets any of them for me.

― n/a (n/a), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to read the new JOAN DIDION OMNIBUS. I've never really read her before, although I've picked up random volumes like The White Album or Slouching Toward Bethlehem from bookstore shelves and been like "hmmmm." Wait, maybe I got one out of the library and didn't like it. Anyway, I still want to give her another shot.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I love her, John! but the pinefox doesn't. :(

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Horseshoe has a spreadsheet TOO?!?!?!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm reading some more Dashiell Hammet stuff, and then onto the Omnivore's Dilemma.

I'm going out for FISH FRY tonight. Sooo excited, I'm going to throw down like I was Catholic.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Horseshoe is the nu-Jocelyn, I have decided.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

In other news, croissants are fucking delicious.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

SO, my step-family is a little nutsoriffic and started a holiday traditional a few years ago of having a Christmas costume party wherein the guests must dress up as something fitting within a pre-determined holiday-themed category. I have managed to escape this particular indignity by coming home after the party happens but this year, they've scheduled around our visit. The theme this year is "Christmas ornament." My mother's plan:

We have all been directed to dress as some sort of an ornament. I'm going to drink a lot on the way to the party and come as a light.

I'm thinking we can all get loaded and go as a string of lights...

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

We can take turns passing out and go as a string of blinking lights.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

And before anyone gets all up in arms, I seem to recall Jocelyn making reference to the Pinefox shortly after she started posting to the Chicago thread in late 2004. Although I tried to find this and all I found was us making plans to go to IRAZU with Adamrl.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Your jokes are meaningless to those of us without spreadsheet access.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

You also mentioned that Sayjal had an improv show.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Remember when we saw each other after Undertow at the CIFF?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

In other news, croissants are fucking delicious.

That's why they call them croissants.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know who Jocelyn is, but okay. I don't think I'm as good at the spreadsheet thing as John, but I do tend to remember posts that I like. and Amanda, pinefox and I had an argument about Didion really recently on ILBooks.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

TS: cancelling an already booked show at an out-of-town club we've never played so that we can take a much better show at another out-of-town club we've never played, opening for an indie-rock legend, and risking being blackballed from first club forever VERSUS playing already booked show and probably losing lots of potential new fans that would be at indie-rock legend's show?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Depends who the indie dude is.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

What did Amanda have to say about Didion? You know who also loves Didion is Reader critic and local scenester Jessica Hopper.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000035GC.01._AA156_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

fans vs blackballing?

i dunno. depends on what's in shorter supply: fans or clubs

i don't have squat to say about didion.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Ditto Jordan. Also how big is the indie-rock legend venue? And which was the greater future consequences: being able to say "Opened for Indie Rock Legend" or being blackballed from a club?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

no, I had an argument with the pinefox, not Amanda. (what do you think of Didion, Amanda?) He wrote lots of smart stuff which you should read whenever ILX-proper returns, but basically he thinks she's too mean. I think she's nice.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I still don't know the indie rock legend of which you speak.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I misread your sentence, H. You were addressing Amanda, not including her as someone with whom you argued about Didion. That's a good example, though, of how the serial comma is much more effective. Your lack of it should've clued me in as to the meaning of the sentence. In the UK it would still be ambiguous.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Everything is still ambiguous in the UK.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I recognize that pic, but can't place the band name.

Here is an excerpt from an embarassing college paper I just read online that made me laugh and laugh:
The orchid has even known to be erotic and influence sexuality. This species makes people just do the strangest things that somewhere in the world there has to be at least two people that have experienced love from their magnificence. I wouldn’t be surprised if two humans overlooking a genus of orchid became so moved by its presence that both were aroused to initiate intercourse; thus creating life and pollinating the world. It may be a little far fetched, however, in life, especially with orchids, there is nothing but flowering possibilities.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Indie-rock legend venue holds 300. But it's a solo performer, meant to be an intimate evening, etc. Plus it's not in Chicago.

No idea what the consequences are. I'm pretty sure we're going to keep the show we have, because we like to play by the rules and have a reputation as a good band to work with, but it's also kind of a bummer.

OK GUYS: Dude is J3R3MY 3N1GK from $UNNY D@Y R3@L 3$T@T3

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

That orchid excerpt is awesome, Sarah.

"Oh look, honey, it's a genus of orchid."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

!!! Hilarity! to Sarah.

To John - oh it's just the one guy? Forget it.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but you know there are $SDR3 fans from way back when who'll still show up in droves to see him.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean $DR3. Whatever.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

TS: cancelling a booked/contracted gig vs. putting together a band wholly comprised of sub musicians (except for one dude) with the same name?

(we are doing the latter in feb.)

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

later chicago.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I remember that impromptu Undertow meeting. It was shortly after N&S's bday throw down bash.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, it was like the second time ever I'd seen you guys. There was the awkward moment of whether or not I should say hi. These days I just run up and give you big ol' bear hugs every chance I get.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

We had that same awkward moment! But we fixed it with beer, which fixes everything.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to write a simulation for my mediation class and mine is all about a magician and Houdini historian who appeared on an episode of Legend Smashers, "a popular television show on which two co-hosts test urban legends under scientific conditions to determine whether the legends have any basis in reality."

Can you tell I was watching TV while doing my homework?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Why do the libraries close at 5pm on Fridays? DOES LEARNING HAVE TO STOP?? I wanted to go to the library after practice this afternoon. Bastards!

― Calico (calico), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I hate that! I've been burned by that before.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm here. What do you want.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Why do the libraries close at 5pm on Fridays? DOES LEARNING HAVE TO STOP?? I wanted to go to the library after practice this afternoon. Bastards!

The one in my neigborhood doesn't (Bezazian).

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Is the library in your neighborhood IN ARMENIA?

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, WTF is your gmail message about?

― Calico (calico), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:v0h-4quJe4YJ:writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/frost-mending.html+robert+frost+fences&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a

Something there is that doesn't love a wall

it's the first line of the poem "Mending Wall," a poem that contains the famous and frequently misused line "good fences make good neighbors."

Also, my fucking foot is wet because my shoe has a hole in it.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I love that poem.

Why Armenia?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm putting on my Christmas wish list:

Robert Frost poems
Dremmel Tool

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Because lots of names that end in -ian are Armenian and the presence of Zs is another tipoff: witness Bezazian.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

God I love Robert Frost.

I Googled Bezazian and the first result was the Bezazian branch of the CPL. My drawing professor was Armenian and his surname was An@ni@n.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

"The environment of my life causes me sudden horror because it is my irreparable petrification, the proof that I am this and not A or B. To travel is to invent a spatial future. Instead, if I stay, I destroy even the temporal future to replace it with a matchbox future, a future of weekends, new detective stories, Thursdays with Olga and Sundays at the cinema. I know how many shirts I have in the closet. The wall of my office is a vertebra. Soup, then soup. Then this blue armchair."

- Julio Cortazar

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Translation: I feel stagnant and unhappy.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I like detective stories and the cinema. I think I'd probably be into Olga too.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Soup, then soup. That's so great.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I just watched an episode of America's Test kitchen wherein they made chicken and dumplings. I come from a slick (or slip, I swear my family used these terms interchangeably but it seems that whichever one I use, I get mocked for not using the other one) dumpling family but this recipe made puffy, biscuit-like dumplings over a very rich stew and looked reeeeeaaaaaaallllly good. The heavy cream and chicken fat make it inappropriate for regular consumption, but I'm thinking as a nice new year's day dinner, it would be absolutely delish.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

nervous and i were in the same musical appreciation society back in college

― grbchv! (gbx), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I've already had lunch, but I want it again. I'm think my body is mistaking sleepy for hungry. It does that sometimes.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

nervous and i were in the same musical appreciation society back in college

VINDICATION!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone brought in a bunch of Ghirardelli chocolates, including an eggnog-flavored chocolate. WAHT.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

^^^^ sucker

― grbchv! (gbx), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

:D

― grbchv! (gbx), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I'm going to wear this costume to my step-family's xmas party:

http://feministing.com/vaginacostume.jpg

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not an ornament, but I don't think that will matter, in the end.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

will you deliver a....MONOLOGUE?

HAHA:LKHF:LKAHL:DKFHL:KDFlk;jsadl;kfjasdfjkljdaksjdf

― grbchv! (gbx), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i immediately regret that

― grbchv! (gbx), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone throw a beer can in the direction of Montana, would you? You guys are closer than I am.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

throw west young man

― grbchv! (gbx), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

rimshot.jpg

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I think dressing as a giant cartoon penis is just the kind of thing I would do. At least nobody will ask you, "What are you supposed to be?"

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

holy fuck, shoveling almost killed me. plus the 3 mile walk back from harlem & lake didn't help. but goddamn, am i gonna sleep well tonight.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone throw a beer can in the direction of Montana, would you?

gbx, i have a fridge with 13 frosty old styles in it and before she left my friend said she stashed a 30 pack in the bedroom closet for me (there was a party here two nights before she left). i have no want for beers.

but my arm isn't that good so if you want to partake, star walking.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm the fuck out. Have a good weekend Chi.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

okey dokey

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i would like a half-dozen beers, plz

― grbchv! (gbx), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

i immediately regret that

hee! people saying this is my favorite thing.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 1 December 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.consumerist.com/consumer/doritos/free-doritos-in-north-carolina-218482.php

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Friday, 1 December 2006 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha! I almost posted that here! Funny.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

In news that is likely only exciting to me, a friend of ours writes stories for video games and named a non-playing character in an upcoming game after me.

"Specialist Burg3ss is in the tavern of the main base, talking about ethics and morality and the ignoring of the Geneva Convention."

I'm in a tavern! Talking about ethics and morality and international law! IT IS LIKE REAL LIFE!

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 1 December 2006 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Reading Robert Frost is like eating Jenny's stuffed squash, or like doing a chore that you find satisfying like running the weedeater: it's delicious, wholesome, plain, yet nuanced. You can kind of feel the poetic nutrients absorbing in the fabric of your mind. It's like a snack of nuts and berries, or charcuteries.

And the saw snarled and rattled, snarled and rattled,
As it ran light, or had to bear a load.
And nothing happened: day was all but done.
Call it a day, I wish they might have said
To please the boy by giving him the half hour
That a boy counts so much when saved from work.

This piece is great, but so much better on a re-reading, with knowledge of the end:

They listened at his heart.
Little—less—nothing!—and that ended it.
No more to build on there. And they, since they
Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs.

Now I'm off to the Holiday Club to meet Satchel for a drink.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 2 December 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a trumpet play in front of the Jewel playing Christmas songs. He or she is not good.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 2 December 2006 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a wonderful day with Julia. We watched TCM and stumbled across a movie that hardly seemed worth watching, until, of course, we started watching it. "Paper Moon" with Ryan O'Neal and a ten-yr-old Tatum O'Neal, who apparently won an Oscar for it. Just charming as all hell. Very funny, too.

And then I came home and watched "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers," which is my second favorite Hollywood musical. Sexist? Oh, hell yeah. On one level it's ludicrously sexist, but that's all parody. On a deeper level it's good ol' fashioned 50's sexist, and that's harder to swallow. But know that going in, and it's just marvelous. The songs are great, and I sing them in the shower sometimes. ("Bless your beautiful hide / Wherever you may be.") The dance numbers are so great that they made me a little misty, no joke. There are not a lot of movies that make me choke up because of how unrepentantly JOYOUS they are. They don't make those at all anymore.

The #1 musical, though, is always "Singin' In The Rain," which I watched on Thursday night. And yeah, I don't know what it is that makes me get all misty when Donald O'Connor does "Make 'em Laugh," but it gets me every time. It's a totally different kind of misty than at the end of "It's A Wonderful Life"; less sappy but somehow more nostalgic. It's not tugging at the heart strings, but it's tugging at something. It's a feeling of, "Now THIS... this is perfection."

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 3 December 2006 04:13 (seventeen years ago) link

First thing out of bed this morning, I regaled Julia with a number fron Singin' in the Rain.

Don't bring a frown to old Broadway
Ah, you got a clown on Broadway
Your troubles there
[flourish] THEY'RE OUT OF STYLE
for Broadway always wears a smile

etc.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 3 December 2006 04:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I am not a homosexual.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 3 December 2006 04:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Methinks you doth protest too much.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 3 December 2006 05:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I did once march down Broadway in the driving sleet to the tune of a bagpiper playing "Singin' in the Rain". We twirled around a couple of lamp posts for good measure before we froze solid and had to be chipped out of our ghillies.

― Laurel (Laurel), Sunday, 3 December 2006 05:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Methinks you doth protest too much.

I know I do. But if only you knew how very very much I like girls...

The liking of musicals is harder to explain, is all.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 3 December 2006 05:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Methinks you doth protest too much.

I ALWAYS PROTEST TOO MUCH. ABOUT EVERYTHING. I PROTEST ABOUT EVERYTHING I CAN THINK OF BECAUSE I'M COLOSSALLY INSECURE. This should not be news, exactly.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 3 December 2006 06:08 (seventeen years ago) link

...neither should it be endearing.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 3 December 2006 07:18 (seventeen years ago) link

bah, i was supposed to watch charade last night and there was a change of plans.

young tatum o'neal reminded me a lot of my sister when she was little...probably that whole little-girl-who-looks-like-a-boy, not the adorable/manipulative thing. my sister didn't look like tatum o'neal when she got older though.

WHY THE FUCK AM I AWAKE. so fucking sleepy. i woke up at 6:30 and dammit it's sunday.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Sunday, 3 December 2006 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Good times:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bP21zUrMh7s

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 3 December 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw that guy once, it was fun. Probably the best one-dude singer/songwriter gig I've seen.

― JordanC (JordanC), Sunday, 3 December 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I am sad to say that I am considering taking a money-saving measure that will reduce my enjoyment of life: I may be saying goodbye to cable TV. I considered 86ing Netflix too.

Which will it be? Netflix or Cable?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Sunday, 3 December 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Biggest bills:

Rent
Cell phone
DSL (landline and internet)
Cable
Electricity
Gas

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Sunday, 3 December 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yeh, and

Student loan goes in right after Rent.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Sunday, 3 December 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

netflix >>>> cable

― JordanC (JordanC), Sunday, 3 December 2006 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, plus Netflix is less than $20 a month! Cable is like twice that, isn't it?

― Laurel (Laurel), Sunday, 3 December 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I would ditch the landline. Unless you can't. I would keep cable over netflix, you know, since you like watching sports so much these days. Call up your cable company and tell them you are leaving so that they give you a better deal.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Sunday, 3 December 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

tcm >>> netflix

― Ruud Haarvest (KenL), Sunday, 3 December 2006 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

or maybe i should say
tcm + dvr >>> netflix

― Ruud Haarvest (KenL), Sunday, 3 December 2006 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Nashville is laid out in a very confusing circular pattern. It is a nice place to visit, though. This is the first time I've returned to Chicago from visiting another place where it really felt like home coming back. I like that.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 4 December 2006 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I like Singin' in the Rain too, and remember liking Paper Moon too, though it's been a really long time since I've seen it.

― n/a (n/a), Monday, 4 December 2006 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link

tcm >>> netflix

Jesse doesn't get TCM anyhoo. I say fuck a bunch of cable.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 04:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I would ditch the landline. Unless you can't.

This is the evil of AT&T dsl. It comes with a landline, no option. Canceling the dsl means getting rid of the phone, and vice versa. They make you sign a contract.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 04:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been through this before. SBC (as it was then) charged me $40 a month for dsl and phone with no long distance. Then I got a bill every month for nearly a hundred dollars. Upon examination, the bill was FULL of wrong charges and mistakes. So every month I called them, and every month they told me they would take the charges off the bill. Sometimes they did, and sometimes they didn't. By the time this constant tug of war was over, I had paid them everything I did not owe them, and swore never to do business with them again. And I will not. Ever. I would rather have bamboo under my fucking fingernails than ever deal with a phone monopoly ever ever again.

So I have a cellphone and I have a cable modem. So far, no troubles. I don't anticipate many, either, since both of those companies have real competition.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 05:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Calling and bitching at Comcast, in my experience, can accomplish huge feats of cheapness. I once yelled loud enough that I got my cable bill cut in half. IN HALF.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 05:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I made Yenny's stuffed squash last night with acorn squash. It was great! I added a little bit of mushroom powder to the stuffing and it added an earthy sort of taste. Verdict: DELISH. Thank you for posting the recipe!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 4 December 2006 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I cooked, too! I felt so accomplished last night, tho my apartment was surprisingly cold and not-heated-like. I stewed a chicken and put up the extra stock and made soup with the rest!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 4 December 2006 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I made some other stuff too but I won't bore you with deets.

I do wonder, though -- I ordered some stuff from that Alchemy lab of perfumery and I was wondering how long it would take to get here. Has anyone made an order and received it? How long did it take?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Nevermind, apparently it takes 14-21 days.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I made a big fuck-off fried salami sandwich last night. It was for nostalgia's sake, I hadn't had one in years but I loved them as a kid. I think it made me sick (or at least dehydrated), I was up around 1 am drinking water.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I had un-fried salami. It is also good. And a large salad full of red bell peppers.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Good morning! With the wind chill, it was ONE DEGREE for my walk in from the bus. Exciting!

I'm having some hot chocolate at my desk. None of my coworkers have commented on the crazy dye job I got this weekend. I look Calico, in a good way, or at least I think so.

I haven't received my Alchemy lab order yet.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not supposed to wear jeans on any day but Friday, but this morning I decided they could eat me. I was not going out there in thin slacks to feel my legs quickly go numb.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

BPAL should send you an email telling you when your stuff ships. It took mine a good two weeks, I think. I know I was really antsy and sending Jeff text messages about "Did it come yet???" because we have packages shipped to his house since who freaking knows how to get packages delivered into the compound here.

Jesse, get rid of your electricity.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I waited for 20 minutes for a train yesterday in the nasty, windy cold. Fuck the fucking CTA. I have had really bad luck with them lately; they made me late for work twice in one week. I feel sorry for Brown line riders this weekend because you suckers were on "Brown Line" buses or SOL a lot of the time.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

You know what's weird? When it's around 40 degrees out, my apartment is chilly because the heat doesn't come on at all. But when it gets really cold the heat comes on and never goes off. Last night was blazing hot, as it is now too.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe wherever your building thermostat is located is drafty? In my last building the 'stat was IN THE FURNACE ROOM, meaning that it got hot in there in about 15 minutes and kept the heat off all day.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I added a little bit of mushroom powder to the stuffing and it added an earthy sort of taste.

I ate my leftovers of Jenny squash with some turkey cold cuts and gravy, to which I added mushroom powder (Spice House?), and as usual, it made me happy.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I have had really bad luck with them lately

No joking. Seems like with all the Brown Line crap, if you live north of Belmont, your arrival time to work is in the hands of the Transit Gods. Even leaving the house early does not guarantee anything.

Last night was blazing hot, as it is now too.

See, my trouble is that when it's 40 outside, they leave the heat just as cranked as if it was 20. My skin turns to parchment and my cats begin to char around the edges. But when it's 20, it's juuuust right.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost But does the landlord set the thermostat at 60 degrees or what? I think she put the sensor outdoors and set it to go on at 15 degrees, because that's the only time I get (way too much) heat. It's very nice when I'm up and lounging around the house in shorts and flip-flops, sipping Mai-Tais, but at night it's miserable.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Leave earlier to allow for delays.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

What's the problem with giving me a knob to turn? Why can't I turn the radiator off if I want to? THIS IS HOT, DRY MADNESS.

lol at Mai-Tais

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, thermostats don't operate by OUTSIDE temp, they only regulate based on the temperature in the room where it's located (unless there are fancy modern ones that have multiple sensors but I'm guessing no rental building goes there). Do you know where the thermo is placed in yr apartment or building?

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i called in sick to work because it was too cold to get out of bed. there was fucking ICE in the glass of water i left on my bedroom window sill. there was no ice in there when i put it on the sill last night.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, uh, it's cold out there, huh?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Seriously, though, I walked four blocks this morning with frigid wind blowing directly in my face, and I thought I was going to die.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I got a new winter coat and a moustache this weekend:

http://static.flickr.com/106/313349673_632589420e.jpg?v=0

I love my coat, and the Burlington Coat Factory in which it was made.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin, I am seriously worried about the fact that there's no heat in yr apt. Gotta find a solution, dude. Did you say you had space heaters? We used to put a standing propane heater in my childhood bedroom but only my parents could operate it and there was no risk of anyone being DRUNK or FUCKED UP. Fire hazard-wise, I'm not sure I'd recommend one of those for you.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Leave earlier to allow for delays.


I leave early! Earlier and earlier every day, yet I still manage to be late. Yesterday I was due at work at 4. I left the house at 3:05, and got to work at 4:20! And as most of you know, I live within earshot of the train. CTA trip planner says my commute should take between 19-25 minutes. No.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Mustache is awesome!!

You didn't grow it for this, did you?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, thermostats don't operate by OUTSIDE temp, they only regulate based on the temperature in the room where it's located

I am aware of that, but the outside temp has a direct impact on the temperature of the temperature indoors. So when it's 40, it doesn't get cold enough inside to turn on the heat. But when it's coooold, it comes on and never turns off. The fact that it never turns off is kind of odd: is there no heat source in the room with the thermostat?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, no, some friends in Milwaukee had a moustache party. I don't even know if they actually did it yet, I just said I would do it in solidarity and send a picture. To think that I could actually good have done good, with a moustache.

moustache vs. mustache?

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Agreed - leave early does not always allow for the kinds of delays you encounter. Sometimes it's no problem, or it's just a little late. Sometimes the trains stack up 10 deep, and you sit there and wait in line for 20, 30 minutes. I'm worried that calling in to work with the "I'm stuck on the train" excuse is going to wear thin soon.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I think gmail chat has been blocked at my work. Probably for the best.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

No, you just have to sign on. It doesn't automatically sign you into chat anymore. Which is definitely for the best.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, that's exactly the question you should be asking. :) As I said before: our thermo was in the furnace room, which was lined with fire-proof bricks and basically an air-tight seal so no fresh air got in and the room temp went up quickly and stayed there, keeping our heat off around the clock. We started propping the door open with a broomhandle, which was against fire code but the only way.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

laurel, i'm going to home depot this afternoon for space heater. it won't be propane because i'd be worried about blowing myself up. my shopping list consists of big assed space heater and christmas lights for the living room since i broke the overhead light. the pull chaing broke off inside the fixture and i haven't had the patience to try to turn off the electricity and fiddle with the wires yet.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

is there no heat source in the room with the thermostat?

I'm guessing, basement.

I found it odd that such an old woman would be so reluctant to turn the heat on. Aren't old women supposed to be cold all the time?

Otto -- I feel for you, I do. I lived without heat last winter for about three months. I had three space heaters going all the time, and hundred dollar electric bills.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

it's just gonna be a pain in the balls getting this thing home on the bus. but whatevs, it will be better than shivering on my couch or dragging my comforter with me all over my place. i need a superwarm blanket or afghan too, the fleece blanket i'm using in the living room just isn't cutting it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

lol at this ad

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/tattoo.jpg

That's a pretty sweet tat you got there, tough guy.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I asked her about the heat and she said it was on. Apparently she was right, but it's just weird heat. I hope it stays tropical in here as I can always open a window.

I'm sure Jeff is somewhere out there grumbling about how we're talking about the weather.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey Amanda!

I was suspiscious of the mango splitter when I saw it in the store, but this email from Cook's Illus. changed my mind:

Mango Splitter:
The OXO Mango Splitter is one of those rare kitchen gadgets that actually works. Try as we might, we couldn’t round up a mango that it couldn’t handle, and the mango splitter never left extra fruit on the pit by overestimating the pit’s size. It's especially useful if you're making our Curried Fruit Chutney to accompany a curry.
$11.95, www.cooking.com, item#411725

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Ooh! Interesting. But what can that thing do that a knife can't do? That's how I cut a mango anyway, by cutting two large slabs and then trimming/gnawing the rest.

I like the mustache, Jordan. It's cute.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the point is that it is curved to fit the pit, and it only takes one pass to remove the fruit.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks Amanda.

(just so we're clear, I lack mustache commitment and shaved it off soon after taking that picture, so now I look like I'm 12)

My boss is out all week and it's not helping my motivation.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.npr.org/programs/day/features/2005/aug/mango/blurb200.jpg

Groovy!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4790537

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess that's a neat invention, but I would be just as happy with a knife. Also, I can sharpen a knife but I can't sharpen that thing.It would be handy for fruit stand ladies, though.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I am not happy with a knife and a mango. Mangoes are difficult for me, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

howdy folks

― thebingo (thebingo), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/108/314104679_202592651b_m.jpg = http://static.flickr.com/103/257252816_02391ed830_m.jpg + http://www.simonsays.com/assets/authorkey/30186189/C_30186189.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse has a better nose.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.npr.org/programs/day/features/2005/aug/mango/blurb200.jpg

It's the Georgia O'Keefe of kitchen gadgets... I use Amanda's knife n' gnaw method.

Jordan, I was going to tell you to keep the 'stache because it's very handsome but I see you have already ruined everything. NICE ONE.

Whoa - who is that first guy? I thought it was Jesse for a second.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

First guy = Keith Harris, a freelance music writer from Philadelphia who contributes to the Reader occasionally.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

(Although I agree that Jesse is hotter.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Also -- hi Chris!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

TOTALLY OFF TOPIC:
I forgot to mention that I saw Rocky for the first time this weekend and I have two comments:

1) I admit it, Rocky is appealing.
http://iblnews.com/getpic.php?idfoto=105913
http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/medias/nmedia/18/36/27/07/18467337.jpg

2) But Adrian! She was supposed to be a loser? Put her in 2006 and she's the most popular girl in art school. She was ADORABLE.
This photo does not do her costume design justice.
http://www.talia-shire.com/images/gallery_slyend.jpg

That concludes my review of Rocky

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha. I guess she was a loser in tough guy-Philly, because there weren't any emo dudes to appreciate her.

I saw Aguirre (really liked it but I kept getting distracted, also I expected Kinski to be more overtly nuts) and Before Sunrise (pretty much what I expected but I was into it) over the weekend.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, I thoroughly understand the circumstances that would cause her to be a "loser" at the time of the movie and the circumstances that would cause her to be considered "super cute" now, I guess I was just surprised at how much I enjoyed the movie.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Amanda, me too!!! I'm always telling people how I just saw both Rocky and Jaws a few years ago and loved both! You are totally right about everything except that the weirdest/worst part of Adrian's being a "loser" was that she seemed to lack any processing or communication skills whatsoever. I'm talking, on a mentally handicapped level. Worrisome.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

In which sequel did Rocky start smacking her around? Or am I making that up?

I just rearranged our netflix queue b/c it's exam time, baby, and I get to exercise dominion over our leisure time:

I, Claudius: Disc 1
The Wicker Man
Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
Ravenous
Some Like It Hot
The Apartment
The Sentinel
Black Sunday
Eaten Alive
History Channel: War of 1812: Disc 1

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't seen Jaws yet, but I remember enjoying Rocky as well. I watched it for a college sociology class. We had to write a paper about "heroes." It was kind of dumb, but it was Sociology 101.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

So the themes for Jenny's Netflix queue = cannibalism and Billy Wilder?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Being back at work after a fun weekend with old friends is a dud.

Coming back from said weekend to a cold apartment that doesn't want to heat up is also a dud.

People in Tennessee are some of the worst drivers I have ever seen, or maybe they're just all drunk.

I don't know if I've ever seen Rocky or Jaws in non-edited-for-TV versions.

I wore flannel-lined Carhartts today and was very comfortable on the way to work, but now I am experiencing a bit of overheating.

I am starting to agitate for TT early this week. Thoughts?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

xp - And pagan sexytimes.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Pretty much.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Exam time is like being eaten alive by Billy Wilder during a historical reenactment of a pagan ritual, so it all makes sense.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I can only hang out on Thursday, so unless we go out on Thursday, I will not be there.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone going to see the FFs tonight?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Jaws is such a great movie. Robert Shaw especially, but even Dreyfus is good.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Needless to say, I must decline to participate in FFs and TT. I have my first exam on Friday. It should be easy, but I'm not going to tempt fate by going in with a hangover. Even if I have been studying while drinking coffee and amaretto for the past week.

xpost - I love Jaws.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Also who needs FREE tickets for the C4N4ST4 show on Friday?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

In which sequel did Rocky start smacking her around? Or am I making that up?

hm. Maybe you're thinking of The Godfather?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

He's a rough-and-tumble working-class dude -- it's bound to happen.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Jaws is great. I think I've only seen it on tv though, I should really remedy that.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Queue:

Jay-Z: Fade to Black
Reality Bites
Idlewild
Burden of Dreams
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
Bottle Rocket
Oleanna
Barry Lyndon
The Thin Man
Harvey Birdman: Vol. 2: Disc 1
Harvey Birdman: Vol. 2: Disc 2
Freaks & Geeks: Disc 1

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to Kenan: You know, I might be. I just have this picture in my head of Talia Shire with a black eye.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I will be at the show tonight! ha ha

I am also up for TT this week.

LUNCHTIME!!!

― Calico (calico), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I can only hang out on Thursday, so unless we go out on Thursday, I will not be there.

Oooh sorry, I just meant early planning, not an early event.

I am at about 50/50 on going to the EB tonight.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, Monday show = free, right?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

have a good show tonight, dudes. say 'hi' to maxy for me if he ends up going

― grbchv! (gbx), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i wish you the best of shows and offer my apologies for not being able to make it tonight. there's teaching (ie work) to be done. boo to weird schedules.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

LOL

http://www.idolator.com/assets/resources/2006/12/chavez%20fix.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I am planning on going to the FFs show! what time?

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Where did you find that?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

It was on Idolator.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, I was really close to spitting water all over my desk there. Thx Hugo.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

"Money Mark remix"

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Horseshoe, the Bottle website sez the show starts at 9:30. FFs play second, so I'll prob get there around 10.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

"Money Mark remix"

I liked that, too. I haven't thought of that guy in years.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, Dan, c'est FREE.

It's Fn cold up at my desk. Someone needs to invent more hot drinks for me.

The high for Thursday is supposed to be 20. That would be a nice day to not have to wait for the bus and then walk.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

There's some kind of malfunctioning equipment near my office this morning. The room smells nauseatingly like burning tires.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a good thing free donut/muffin/bagel day only comes once per month at work or else I'd be fat like Joe.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

There's some kind of malfunctioning equipment near my office this morning.

We keep hearing a loud, deep rumbling, like the El, except we're on the 19th floor. It's kind of alarming.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

It's Godzilla.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I think only the general shape of my face and the face I am making in that picture make me look like either David S. or the other guy.

In a developing story: IT'S HOT IN HERE. The sun is beating on the kitchen and living room, creating a strong greenhouse effect. I have opened windows and am not wearing much of anything.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Grousing kills thread.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.worldbook.com/features/birds/assets/grouse.jpg

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm getting nothing done today. But I have a meeting in a minute, and that will feel like something.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

2x getting nothing done

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 4 December 2006 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

3x. I've got a meeting from 4 - 6 that'll kill the rest of the day.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 4 December 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan, I heard tale of a $30,000 custom drum kit that was installed in the studio my friend works at in Nashville. I wouldn't even know where to begin with something like that.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 4 December 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Was it made from the wood of a one-of-a-kind cancer-curing rainforest tree or something?

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 4 December 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not sure. If I remember right he said titanium figured prominently in the design of the thing. Also, all the parts down to the smallest fittings were US-made, which probably jacked up the price a lot. I guess most custom makers will do the shells and rims and such themselves, but get the hardware pieces from overseas or something akin to that.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 4 December 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

4x, though I'm not at work yet. But still I have a stack of laundry that is literally as tall as me and I could be applying for jobs.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 4 December 2006 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

And I have something in my apartment that has been a source of shame for me....a wardrobe box that I have been putting all my trash in since Courtney left. It is all paper trash, nothing rotting, mind you.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 4 December 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan -- do you have the whole Clipse record now?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, my friend bought that CD for the trip this weekend. He got the rental car, so I probably heard it at least 10 times.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 4 December 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't understand what all the hype surrounding it is all about. It has some good beats and there were one or two good overall tracks. But I gotta say it's overrated, and they're probably selling all the coke they rap about to internet record reviewers.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 4 December 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I don't really listen to much rap on the album level, but people talk so much about the Clipse I figured I had to hear it. And it's like Metacritic's 3rd-best reviewed record of the year (although that will probably go down once more reviews come in).

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I might have just heard it too many times in too short a time frame, too.

Funny side story: My roomate M@tt (also at the wedding as he was standing in it) had never heard of the Clipse. His quote -- "what is that, some new mp3 player?"

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 4 December 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never heard of them outside of the Internet.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan -- do you have the whole Clipse record now?

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), December 4th, 2006. (jaymc) (later) (link)

i do

― grbchv! (gbx), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey. The other two bands tonight are awesome too, though somewhat more "punk" than us, if you need more incentive to come out 2nite.

I like Clipse.

― n/a (n/a), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

The Clipse record is pretty great, but it bums me out sometimes. I can't say exactly why. Well, maybe I can. It's viciously angry in a lot of places, and the life of a drug dealer does not sound like the happiest. That said, I keep coming back to it.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Their fine bitches, stripper bitches, and college ho's all like the dirty money (dirty money).

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the Clipse album because it is loud and obnoxious, like rap is supposed to be.

― n/a (n/a), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

WEP WEP
What it do, what it do?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry. Like I said, I heard it an awful lot.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

YSI, my peeps.

though somewhat more "punk" than us

Which is why I will be coming just for you guyz. :-D

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I believe you mean "WAMP WAMP."

― n/a (n/a), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Oooh, my thug pronunciation needs some work. Please Frosty don't hurt me!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

(And BTW, I don't need any more incentive to come see you guys play, although I do like teh punk bands. This is totally coming down to my relationship with the amount of money spent, beer consumed, and sleep missed this past weekend.)

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

It's nice having a new boss. She likes my stuff, and doesn't understand why it doesn't get used. Which is what I want to know, too!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.sendspace.com/file/b7lmg2

lemme know if this works...it's a few days old now

― grbchv! (gbx), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

ooh... can we YSI in the sandbox?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

shh

― grbchv! (gbx), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks!

― rgn! (jaymc), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

glasnost!

― grbchv! (gbx), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

D/Led for irony's sake, if nothing else. Thank'ye!

― thtchr! (danno martinez), Monday, 4 December 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan -- do you have the whole Clipse record now?

Yeah and I'm into it. I like how mnml the beats are. Any one of them coming from the Neptunes might be disappointing (except for Wamp Wamp), but as a consistent sound for the record it's serious.

I don't think it's loud and obnoxious, though I do like loud and obnoxious rap.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link

(I love Wamp Wamp)

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 00:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i just ordered the three seasons of arrested development on a whim.

they were on sale.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 01:58 (seventeen years ago) link

That was the right thing to do.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 02:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I firmly support you in that difficult decision.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 02:32 (seventeen years ago) link

TODAY ONLY!

http://www.amazon.com/Arrested-Development-Seasons-1-3/dp/B000JJ3Y78/sr=8-1/qid=1165279425/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-4115942-9279916?ie=UTF8&s=dvd

"You save $76.15."

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 03:16 (seventeen years ago) link

That's more than on sale.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 03:17 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah. i'm very happy.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 03:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Holy crap.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 03:21 (seventeen years ago) link

That just took care of a couple holiday gifts for me.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 03:29 (seventeen years ago) link

nice!

i am GIDDY over having just acquired that for myself for SO CHEAP.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 03:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, excellent, Jordan. That's a fine idea. If I wasn't flat broke again.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 03:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Shit. How can I NOT buy it at that price? I feel bad because I was party to Courtney's buy Season 3 at Borders for around $20-some. Fuck. I'm trying to stick to a budget. Fuck.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 05:53 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, I am not going to buy it. But I better get off the internet before its siren song gets to me.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 05:54 (seventeen years ago) link

5 minutes left....

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 05:56 (seventeen years ago) link

thank you julia! i just got me some xmas gifts!

― t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 06:10 (seventeen years ago) link

OK. It was still there after midnight, and I remembered that I had some Amazon GC credit on my account, so the complete set of AD is now mine, and my conscience is pretty clear.

Thanks, Julia, and I too support your decision.

Also: fuck you, FOX.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 06:29 (seventeen years ago) link

joy = spread

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 06:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Huh.

http://www.nysun.com/article/44247?page_no=1

Et vous, NYC?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 07:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Good morning, starshines. The earth says WASSSSUUUPPP?!?!?!?!?

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

dan, you missed a very fine fake fictions show last night. i tried (in vain) to explain to nick why despite a few bumps it was my favorite ff show and now that i'm sober i think it comes down to focus. it was a very focused set and i liked it.

$1.25 beers never hurt either.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

You mean like how Nick managed to unplug his guitar in one song and lose his strap in another or how one of our friends described us as sounding like "..you're about to drive off this cliff, but you have your seatbelt on.."?

I couldn't sleep last night. I finally got myself all wide awake to play, but that required drinking lots of coke and rum & coke. So then in bed my heart was beating really fast and I felt nauseous from all the smoke.

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

But also, I enjoyed drinking rum & coke and look forward to Thirsty Thursday. Where are we going this time?

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I couldn't sleep either, I was too pumped up from the show. It was a blast.

I am working from home again today, whooo!

― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I felt nauseous from all the smoke.

sorry, that was probably all me, i was chain smoking last night. but even with those bumps i still thought it was a great set. there wasn't one moment where i didn't think it wasn't totally about the music. and i'm confused by my own use of the triple negative but i thought it was great set.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

You'd make a good lawyer with those kind of triple negatives.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah knows it was a good show, she's just fishing for compliments. You can ignore her.

― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

how one of our friends described us as sounding like "..you're about to drive off this cliff, but you have your seatbelt on.."?

I think that sounds complimentary, actually.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I GUESS I AM IGNORING NICK, EH???

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Ugh, I've got a headache and I don't know why. I want to go back to bed and then get up and read detective stories.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

That's good that you guys had a good show. Good shows are good.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

It feels like it should be the weekend.

― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

seriously.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

10x

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm just pushing on for December 19. December 19th it will all be over... (My last thing is actually due Dec. 20 BUT I want to go to my office Christmas party/drunken pool playing bash on the 20th so I'm pretending that the paper is actually due on the 19th so I'll finish the stupid paper in time for drunken antics.)

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't ignore me! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! I need attention. Also, I need some slapping to stay awake.

Empty Bottle has smoke coming out of its pores. I reek after being in there like five minutes.

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I've come to cherish the smoking ban here.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I finally made it into the office around 10.30. Got lost in Chinatown last night, on way home from MNDC (I take a new, further away train now, and I was drunkish). Probably wasted 45 minutes being confused by angled streets and bridge lights. I have a problem with bridges, apparently.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

dan, you missed a very fine fake fictions show last night.

I know, I know, I'm sorry guys, but I got home to an ice-cold apartment (our thermostat is broken now, though the furnace works) and the one of the water heaters in the basement spewing water. That necessitated a lot of landlord interaction and moving of stuff (to escape the soaking), and by the time it was done I didn't feel like doing anything. Also, I couldn't feel anything because my hands and toes were frozen. Getting out of bed this morning was really, really hard. It should be fixed this afternoon but wow, what a pain in the ass.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.achewood.com/comic.php?date=12052006

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a problem with bridges, apparently.


...

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't understand. Why does she have a sad lamp? What are those good for?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

People with Seasonal Affective Disorder sit under sun lamps to feel better in the winter when it's dark and/or grey out all the time.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I think I need one.

http://achewood.com/comic.php?date=11202006

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

awesome

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

haha

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I went on a Motorhead binge last night, because of the ILM thread.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, it started out with listening to Boris, and then segued smoothly into Motorhead.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

My office is now fully pimped out with 1) a slammin' space heater and 2) a hot pot for making tons and tons of tea. I am currently enjoying blueberry rooibos and am not freezing. This rules.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Too depressed to finish biting through a piece of toast! That's hilarious and sad all at the same time.

Amanda is this an office at home or an office elsewhere? I keep threatening to bring a coffee pot special for the library at work but then they talk about fire hazards and being thankful for the terrible free coffee and crap.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

This is at eye eye tea, in my office with the gigantic windows. For some weird reason, though, my eyes are super bloodshot.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Does anyone have any good crockpot/slow cooker recipes? I have one but I've never used it. Maybe it would be good for red beans & rice?

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you in that terrible red and orange student center? Being in there makes everything look kind of bloodshot.

I know I'm supposed to appreciate that for all its architectural modernity and innovation and stuff, but that much shiny red and orange and silver makes me irritable.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan, it's awesome for all-day spaghetti sauce, too. I'll try to find my mom's recipe if you like.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

There's the chicken and sweet potato stew that I gave Kevin the recipe for a few weeks ago.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Nah, I'm across State in another square, modern building with very large, very leaky single pane windows.

I have several wonderful crockpot recipes but my WRIST BRACE is making me too lazy to type them. I am most proud of 1) NC BBQ and 2) Ethipian-style beef stew. Both have been successful on multiple occasions.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I meant Ethiopian. DAMN WRIST CAUSING FINGERS TO MALFUNCTION.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

STUPID NON-FUNCTIONAL ROBOTIC ARM.


Shit, I wish I had some spaghetti now! Good thing we're going to business lunch soon, only food will banish this hangover. Of course then I'll want to sleep, but at least Sleepy isn't Queasy.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

All those foodz sound delicious, but especially NC BBQ, mmmm.

Have you been to the wrist doctor yet, Amanda?

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, wrist brace? I guess I shouldn't ask you too many questions on the internet, but did you go to a doc? Do you have a RSI?

I think I have the BBQ recipe in my sent items from when I sent it to Jefferooni so if you're interested, Jordan, I can post or email it.

I guess that answers that question.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Going to doc on Friday. :(
I can email you the bbq recipe. It's crazy easy and right up your alley.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

post them, both of you, please.

thank you.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

FOR THE RECORD: I just checked my gmail and I had already emailed Jordan the bbq recipe months ago. Ha.


You can all peep my red hot wrist brace on Thursday at OLD Timerz.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

BBQ posted to blog!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

whatwhere blog?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Did you ever make the chili?

chilx blogspot com

easier to check than these infernally long threads

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

chili = no, i went to jewel on thanksgiving day (note to self, NEVER DO THAT AGAIN) and bought all the ingredients. then when i was opening a can of beans so i'd having something to put the grease from the ground beef in i realized i forgot to get the ground beef so i drank beer and watched football instead.

i still have everything though i'll need to buy more celery and an onion.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

rub all over the meat, like you like it:

i stopped reading after this.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin, did you get your heater yesterday? I meant to ask you at the (awesome!) FFs show.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I forgot to wear deodorant today.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

no, something suddenly came up (props to greg brady).

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I forgot to wear deodorant today.

what's distressing to me is that my old spice segues so perfectly into my own musky funk that i can't tell when my deodorant has stopped working. i'll have to take a whiff and think "is that more b.o. or carrot cake? carrot cake? then it's old spice."

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i should go back to the fresh scent, then i'd know for sure.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

TS: Deodorant stains on your shirt vs. Toothpaste stains on your shirt

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

holy shit, mission of burma is playing the double door the night after my birthday! BUYIN' MYSELF A PRESENT!!!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

That Arrested Development set is up to over $50. This shit is like the stock market.

I want to make the bbq this weekend, I just need to get the purrk and the "apple cider vinegar".

xpost, oh and thanks, that reminds me that I ran out of deoderant this morning

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I use some all natural hippie shit that also blends into my own funk so it's hard to tell. I might be smelling the Free Terrible Coffee. Or I might be smelling myself exuding the smell of Free Terrible Coffee, Expensive Coffee of Variable Quality Depending on Where I Buy It, and Decent Coffee that I Make at Home, all of which I have been consuming in mass quantities lately.

Deodorant stains on your shirt: If you mean the white streaks that can happen if you don't employ the roll-and-duck method of putting on a shirt, you can usually wipe those off with a damp towel. Toothpaste stains can ruin my day, however.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

roll-and-duck?

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

roll up yr shirt duck yr head into it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

How about the white stains that come from sweating like a hog? I think those are permanent. I ruined so many good t-shirts before finally breaking down and starting to wear undershirts. :(

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

i haven't worn deodorant since....10th grade?

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

HIPPIE

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

j/k, wish I was fragrant enough to get away with that.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm on a strict all-lilac diet, when i sweat it smells like a fuckin' greenhouse in the spring.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin is correct! You roll up the bottom of the shirt so you're putting on a crop-top with sleeves. When you put it on, your armpits only touch the inside of the shirt. Then you duck your head in and carefully put your arms into the sleeves. It's not fool-proof, but it minimizes the damage.

I am in close proximity to too many people who would judge me for stinkin' to even attempt to stop wearing deodorant. I do pretty well with the all natural kind, unless it's super duper hot. Then I have to pull out the big guns, especially if I'm wearing a suit or man-made fiber shirt.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

The deoderant/anti-perspirant thing is interesting. I don't mind smelling like myself and I use unscented Tom's stuff anyway, but there's no question of when the acrid BO has taken over, usually as a result of being cold or nervous or the constriction of tight sleeves. I don't understand how people could not tell...? Oh well, people in being different SHOCKAH.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

For the record, I use Dove deoderant.

Horseshoe, I suck for not remembering your name last night.

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm... human-made fiber? unnatural fiber? faux-fiber? What's a good gender-neutral term for that?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

it's not so much a matter of not telling, i can definitely tell when the old spice has given up the ghost, but determining when (if?) the old spice is at less than 50% effective is the trick.

then again, maybe i just smell so fucking good that i should foresake it all together and play basketball for 9 hours a day. i could rent myself out as an air freshener.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

This dumb article about Why Men Cheat annoys me. It also somehow makes me more sleepy.

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah, not at all! my name is weird.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

While we're on the subject of personal hygiene, smells, and potential TMI-topics, here's an informal poll:

Courtesy flushing. Do you? Why or why not?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

the fucking first sentence of that article pisses me off too much to read any more.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i've known way more women to cheat than dudes. bah, whatever, not worth it.

horeshoe, i am going to continue calling you horseshoe in public because i think it's an awesome nickname. let me know if it gets on your nerves.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

That article is high fuckin' comedy.

Think about what's on your iPod. You have your favorite songs you play over and over, but every once in a while, you're in the mood to hear something you haven't played in a long time. You don't need to hear it but once every month or so, but still, you appreciate the changeup.

Women are like iPods. I've never thought of it like that. What a refreshing perspective.

i've known way more women to cheat than dudes.

Yeah, I was gonna say. Well, not way more, but God, how old is this stereotype, anyway?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

actually, that would be one of the least annoying nicknames I've ever had. fine by me!

can I admit I'm not sure how "courtesy" flushing is different than just flushing?

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

So, let's see...

Men cheat because they are biologically compelled to (whereas women are biologically compelled, to paraphrase Lisa Jervis, use their vaginas as fly paper in which to trap wedding rings); they are bored with their current sex lives (read: once women trap said men, they stop liking to fuck and so on some level deserve to be cheated on); they are too emotionally stunted to maturely end a relationship; or a clever iPod-analogy rehash of the biological compulsion.

Now, as a woman, I find a lot to object to in that article. My question to you mens is whether you find those so-called biological gender imperatives equally as oppressive? I mean, doesn't it piss you off to be told again and again that you're not much more than a giant, erect penis thrusting about, searching for a home? And that you're immature, to boot?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

"The Mysteries of the Sexes Explained" bothers me too much to read any more. WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH WOMEN, AMIRITE??

And yeah, I don't know what courtesy flushing is, either.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Courtesy flushing. Do you? Why or why not?

Yeah, sometimes. Depends on what I ate and how potentially deadly the aroma. Why do you ask?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

then again, maybe i just smell so fucking good that i should foresake it all together and play basketball for 9 hours a day. i could rent myself out as an air freshener.

Husk Musk!

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to Jenny: Yes.

Also 2x/3x/whatever to more women cheating than men, both in my personal experience and with my platonic female friends.

http://www.poopreport.com/Techniques/Content/Courtesy/courtesy.html

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

My question to you mens is whether you find those so-called biological gender imperatives equally as oppressive?

I don't really have a sense of indignance about my gender being oppressed, and I'm not about to grow one now.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, I still don't understand the courtesy flush. So you flush once, and then you flush again to indicate that your shit stinks? Seems like that's calling more attention to yourself than need be.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

No, you flush before you're all done wiping or whatever, just to clear the air as quickly as possible and not have your poop sitting in the bowl giving off molecules for any longer than is necessary.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Courtesy flushing, as I understand it, is when you flush to try and cover up the noises you make while you're poopin' and fartin'. I ask because I just used the bathroom next to a courtesy flusher and I always thought it was kind of pointless. I know why you're in there! There's no need to waste water trying to act like you're not pooping!

Kenan, I guess I'm getting at the whole, "Feminism is good for men, too, because it frees us all from gender stereotypes" conclusion, via internet Socratic method.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Speaking of smelling, I just learned that some bees can collect a flower's perfume and store it in their legs to attract lady bees. The lady bees have a keen sense of smell and pick their mates largely based on the strength and diversity of scents belonging to the male bee.

As for the article, I just love how it ends with the implication that a woman better be sure to keep changing things up in the bedroom if she doesn't want her man out looking for new tunes.

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh. Doesn't seem like it's worth it. I mean, how long does it take you to wipe? Also, the bathroom at work doesn't get all that much traffic: there are two stalls, and it's maybe only 5% of the time that I go in there and one is already occupied.

My question to you mens is whether you find those so-called biological gender imperatives equally as oppressive?

I just hate any generalizations about gender*, especially ones that treat men and women like we're two alien species, impossible to understand without the help of a translator.

*except the ones about women liking chocolate and being cold all the time

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

The courtesy flush: gallant or futile?

to try and cover up the noises you make while you're poopin' and fartin'

I've never thought of that potential application. Well, if you're just embarrassed to be poopin, there's no help for you. I always thought of it as trying to clean up, in a kinda sorta way.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, i just thought it was to keep from clogging the toilet

I mean, doesn't it piss you off to be told again and again that you're not much more than a giant, erect penis thrusting about, searching for a home? And that you're immature, to boot?

it doesn't piss me off, really, but it is a bit irritating, more out here than any other place i've lived. the men of montana are, shockingly, huge pigs.

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

if she doesn't want her man out looking for new tunes

This is just so funny to me. I mean, I guess there are guys like that, who have women all over town or whatever. Playas, as the kids say.

"Allison is so rock and roll, but Cathy is more emo."

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

"I'd marry her if she weren't so noise."

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, i just thought it was to keep from clogging the toilet

Mein Gott, what are you eating?

http://images.livescience.com/images/top10_bad_good_chocolate.jpg

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

hott

http://namm.harmony-central.com/SNAMM05/Content/Numark/PR/iDJ-sm.jpg

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Right, women like chocolate.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

THREESOME!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sure there are men like that, but what I think the article is getting at more is, "Women, don't LET your men get like that!" or, similarly, "Women, if you've been cheated on, you should have been a better playlist."

Also, the comments are pretty hilarious.

"Hey, welcome to the Yahoo blogs! I think men have needed a forum to address topics relevant to them for quite some time"

Because nowhere in modern western society is there a forum for men to address topics relevant to them...

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Male normativity called. It wants it's irony back.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

And its possessive apostrophe.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Because nowhere in modern western society is there a forum for men to address topics relevant to them...

Precisely what I mean about my sense of gender-based indignance having become vestigal.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Mein Gott, what are you eating?

i've laid some serious pipe in my time, dudes

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Inappropriate apostrophe, I mean.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

You people are not talking about WIPING on the internet, are you?!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Just John.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i am talking about dumping

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Dominating that porcelain.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

It's okay, what happens in the sandbox stays in the sandbox. Right guys? Right?

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

LOLZ

Society vilifies, belittles, humitates, insults, debases and verbally abuses MEN in order to bolster the frail FEMALE ego. Does anybody realy think that the girls don't go out looking for it too? I have a friend who ruined 3 marriages because SHE couldn't stay away from MEN. She once told Me that She had slept with over 1500 MEN (and several hundred WOMEN). Is SHE on trial? I'm neither a "Greek God" nor a "stud" but even so I have slept with 7 MARRIED WOMEN (All of whom were friends {and still are}) because THEY asked Me to! Promiscuity is equally inherent in both sexes. If You want to sell books all You have to do is to appeal to Female vanity (much the same way as you would if you wanted to bed them down), and blame men for all things reprehensible.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

that article is also a case of "I'm going to trump up my personal experiences with the opposite sex into absolute truths about men and women writ large, rather than me just being an irresponsible asshole." I mean, I guess everybody does that, but it's always super-annoying.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Just John.

Kenan brought it up!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Promiscuity is equally inherent in both sexes.

100% agreeance from me.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i am so glad i came back with my turkey sub and decided to read this thread instead of peter king's monday morning quarterback column like i had planned. it truly is great reading while eating some mealey turkey.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, it's in MEN'S HEALTH so really, shooting fish in a barrel.

oh gross Kevin.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Promiscuity is equally inherent in both sexes.

100% agreeance from me.

Yeah, I'm not LOLing at that part. I have a lot of anecdotal evidence to refute the choosy female/seed-spreading male biological imperative, as I'm sure we all do.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Promiscuity is equally inherent in both sexes.

In some ways I wish I had the personal experience to back this up, because then I'd feel less like an asshole sometimes. But I'll prob. take occasionally feeling like an asshole vs. feeling completely horrible for being cheated on.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

xposts
told again and again that you're not much more than a giant, erect penis thrusting about, searching for a home?

this description amuses me.

yay for people buying AD--i wasn't sure about posting the link and frustrating people who didn't have impulse-splurge money. i hadn't thought of christmas presents.

i didn't completely read that article. scanning it was amusing though.

earlier, somebody pointed me to a silly article about how men could be better in bed. speaking of gender stereotypes... http://www.eioba.com/a2849/fifty_mistakes_men_make_when_having_sex

my favorite line: she wants to feel adored by the man to whom she has just given her most precious asset.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Assets: 1998 Saturn, checking account, maidenhead*


*not really

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I had to put my vagina down as an asset on my student loan form.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

That was before I got married. Now Jeff puts it down as an asset on his applications.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

He should plant a flag in it.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

"I claim this territory for the British Empire and the glory of God."

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

yep, glad i came back after reading mmqb.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

You can't come back til you make some chili, mister!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

later gators.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i was kidding, you wiener.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey I asked a question that maybe some of y'all (like ARMANDO GROUSE over here) might know the answer to.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

"Women, if you've been cheated on, you should have been a better playlist."

Not enough Motorhead. It's a common problem.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know of such a compilation, John, but I want one, too.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

One of the reasons I don't own anything like that is because okay, I love Gershwin and Porter, but they're not like bands with canonical 5-stars-on-AMG albums, or even slapped-together Rhino greatest-hits collections -- no, a million singers have performed Gershwin and Porter songs, and so there are very few "definitive" versions of anything.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

It's really a completely different model, even down to the fact that I came to love these songs not from any recordings but from my own playing of them.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

"It's incredibly exciting to see your gorgeous bottom as we make love"

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

The jazzman I work with suggests compilations on the Presitge and Verve labels, like this: http://www.vervemusicgroup.com/product.aspx?ob=prd&src=rslt&pid=9448

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

and so there are very few "definitive" versions of anything

Right. And even if there were, licensing all of them for one set would be a nightmare. What you need is a mix CD from a jazzbo. I am ill-equipped in the standards department.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I am looking up Rodgers and Hart compilations on Amazon. there are one million. Ella Fitzgerald's "The Lady is a Tramp" is my favorite version.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

John I believe this is what you're looking for.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Gross.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

hahaha

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm -- well, I dunno. I don't have that many compilations, but there are a couple of things that come to mind.
1) The Songs of [year] series, which is always fun and has hidden hits (and some standards). Sarah liked the one I gave her from 1930, I think it was.

2) I would look on AMG under "vocal pop" or "American popular song" for direction. It shows me "Academy Award Winning Songs [year-year]" is a good option as well as looking for collections based on composer versus singer.

But I am more into the singer than the composer - I would rather just listen to the work of one singer who I particularly like, but that's me. I would put links in but 1) i don't remember how and 2) my wrist hurtz.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

this one has Peggy Lee's "The Lady is a Tramp" on it, but it's just Rodgers and Hart songs: http://www.amazon.com/Isnt-Romantic-Capitol-Sings-Rodgers/dp/B000006MVH/sr=8-3/qid=1165343575/ref=pd_bbs_3/103-6832995-8765454?ie=UTF8&s=music

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

No seriously, this looks like what you're describing.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Ella Fitzgerald's "The Lady is a Tramp" is my favorite version

Yeah, ha -- she gets all Mark E. Smith on it: "Won't go to crap games with barons and earls-ah, don't go to Harlem in sables and pearls-ah."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000056O2R.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

But I am more into the singer than the composer - I would rather just listen to the work of one singer who I particularly like, but that's me.

Yeah, I guess this is my thing, is I don't know a whole lot about specific pre-rock singers because I haven't heard very much of them. I just played the tunes on the piano. People like Fitzgerald and Sinatra are exceptions because almost everyone's heard them, but I only know Ella's version of "The Lady is a Tramp" that Horseshoe brought up because Kelsey put it on a mix CD for me like three years ago. (And I was only able to make the Mark E. Smith comparison because I just listened to it on my iPod.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan, that one looks good!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

The Rodgers/Hart one looks good, too. Man.

Also would like recommendations on Jimmy Webb or Burt Bacharach compilations.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, I would love to somehow be able to get the "best" version of like the Rodgers and Hart, Gershwins, and Porter bodies of work. my stepdad had Ella Fitzgerald sings everybody, basically, and sometimes, like on "Lady is a Tramp," she's amazing, but then, she's really slow and boring on "Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered."

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeff prob. has a Burt B. recommendation. I know we've got some records of his that I l-o-v-e but I can't remember what they're called.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Not this Jimmy Webb, btw:

http://www.blueridgedemocrats.org/images/Webb.gif

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

But he was BORN FIGHTING.

His poor mother.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Similar to jaymc, I know most of these tunes from playing in jazz groups, but for half of them I've never even heard the lyrics.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

WHOA. I am listening to Joanna Newsom on "All Songs Considered" and am just realizing that my favorite song on last year's Emiliana Torrini record is actually a SANDY DENNY cover. ARMANDO, please advise.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I just heard "The Heat Is On" (from Beverly Hills Cop) on the radio and a co-worker left some cookies on my chair, my day is looking up.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

agh interrupted by pesky students

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Get Fairport Convention's Liege and Lief or Unhalfbricking.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I just discovered that L3v3l Optic@l has moved in across the street from Old Timer's!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Nice. Can't wait until January so I can finally get SPECS.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm gonna be getting a new pair soon, maybe even this week. I cannot WAIT to be rid of these awful things. Any suggestions, folks? (Preferably, under about $100.)

I hope that my insurance company gets off their collective asses and approves my claim for new contacts sometime this year, as well.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

1. My historic jazz go-to guy is named Armando for real. I might even have some of his compillations around the house somewhere.

2. My eye doc in GSO was in the same strip mall as a bar and yes, I have gotten my eyes checked after beerz.

3. Dan, it's hard to make specs suggestions w/out seeing them on yr face. But my glasses from Level Optical were $30 co-pay and I loves them.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the reason why the acronym GSO bothers me is that I think you guys are talking about a symphony orchestra at first.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

ps jaymc what was the song? i love sandy denny. i would like to hear fotheringay (her band after FC, i think?) but i don't have no moolah and i don't know if their albums are in print.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

xxpost I think I want something black or possibly dark brown, but not clunky thick frames. Honestly I sorta prefer the rimless kind but I have been told they are UNFASHIONABLE. The FASHIONABLE part was what I was really looking for aid on.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I decided yesterday that "The Look of Love" is the best song ever*. I was listening to a Sergio Mendes version but it sounded so great, esp. during the "don't ever go" part.


*i changed my mind almost immediately, but for a minute it was the best song i had ever heard.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

xxxxxxpost

john, i'm pretty sure i put the della reese version of 'the lady is a tramp' on your mix tape or whatever. that version blew my mind when i first heard it. it's like she 'got it' and everyone else was just doin' musicals.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Honestly I sorta prefer the rimless kind but I have been told they are UNFASHIONABLE.
http://www.knox.edu/Images/_News/news_media/img/2006/colbert_stephen-1ss.jpg

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www-assets.eyeglasses.com/dyn/frame_large/726396568.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Honestly I sorta prefer the rimless kind but I have been told they are UNFASHIONABLE

You don't say. I started out with thick emo glasses years ago and they've been getting progressively thinner. My current pair are half-rimmed so I assumed that rimless would be the logical next step.

(I am not talking about rimming on the internet etc.)

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Colbert can wear any glasses he likes. He's so handsome, he's impervious to fashion.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

kenan, i think a pair of glasses that is rimless along the bottom but a heavy dark top would look nice on you.
maybe not this exactly, but something similar:
ihttp://img.inkfrog.com/pix/DiscountEyewear/may30065.jpg

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

whatevs. link for yer pleasure.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

link = click. i'm tired.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I just shorted out my electricity with my space heater and hot pot.
:(

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

oh no! please don't freeze!

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

i need new glasses. i think i might like a pair of those half-rimless buddy holly glasses. or plastic on top, metal on bottom

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess mine are thin on top and rimless on the bottom. They're Chesterfield brand and they have a ridiculous snakeskin-ish pattern on the inside of the earpieces where no one can see, just to taunt me.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Grrr. The IT department here is infuriating. They're PC people. They're PC zealots, more like. They think that Microsoft is just simply amazing, and if asked to fix anything on a Mac, they get angry and frustrated. They do not know how to use Macs at all. Which is fine with them, since the narrative they have collectively created is that Mac people are pretentious little children who use Fisher Price computers. It's so weird. I didn't know that PC zealots were still out there in force, at least not ones who go around thinking that OS X is a piece-of-crap operating system.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

IT dudes who "think that Microsoft is just simply amazing" == n00b l@m3rz LOLOLOLOL

Seriously, *nix or go home.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

the glasses i bought most recently have a style guide on their website. i clicked on 'petite face woman' and found the glasses i got.

http://www.bevelspecs.com/

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, I know a LOT of sysadmin/developer/whathaveyou types, and I could count the ones who have anything good to say about Windows/Microsoft on like one finger.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

ps jaymc what was the song?

"Next Time Around"

john, i'm pretty sure i put the della reese version of 'the lady is a tramp' on your mix tape or whatever.

You're probably right. It doesn't sound much like Ella, now that I think about it. I just realized that you didn't give me a track list, so I had to make up the tags in iTunes when I imported it.

Who sings the version of "Girl From Ipanema" that's on there?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i have never known any sysadmins or IT people who have ever had anything but a serious loathing for microsoft.

cluster-sharing on microsoft in 99/2000 had me thinking kaczynski-like thoughts.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

couldn't tell ya, lil' j.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Excel is pretty sweet, though. That is pretty much the best Microsoft product ever.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Ooh, Kels, I like Bevel frames! I had my eye on a pair for a while but optician didn't carry 'em and I couldn't deal with the paperwork of going elsewhere.

Ev: Plastic on top, metal on the bottom, and tiny mother-of-pearl inlay on the temples.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

That song is verboten.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i have been extremely happy with mine. they were stupid expensive, but the titanium has held up beautifully. they have yet to get bent.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

What, Jordan? "Girl From Ipanema"? It's a pretty sweet tune, if a bit played out. I'm trying to remember if I know "The Look of Love."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I just listened to the Dusty Springfield "L of L" and it's luverly.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

...which has inspired me to move onto the rest of the Bacharach 3-disc set.

"What do you get when you kiss a guy? You get another chance to catch pneumonia / and when you do, he'll never phone ya."

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, GFI. It's probably the most requested and least played song at all jazz jam sessions/gigs. Well, it does get played, but only under duress.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I just listened to the Justin Guarini "Look of Love" on YouTube -- and yeah of course I know it.

the Bacharach 3-disc set.

What's this? Rhino's The Look of Love: The Burt Bacharach Collection? I just found that on Amazon.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, it's really pleasant. Lots of Dusty, lots of Dionne, DeShannon, deloveliness.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000003N8M.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

is he the hot american idol dude who disappeared?

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

is he the hot american idol dude who disappeared?

Yup, it was the first "Look of Love" performance that came up on YouTube -- that is, after ABC's "The Look of Love," which isn't the same song.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

oh. he's kinda hot.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel, you pick 'em out, i'll wear 'em

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Are we done talking about male promiscuity?

Will there be a TT this week?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

What's this? Rhino's The Look of Love: The Burt Bacharach Collection?

my ex wicker park ladyfriend's idol was burt bacharach. great music for wintertime afternoon fun. no double entendre intended there, just fun.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

we will never be done talking about male promiscuity -- it is a BIOLOGICAL FACT

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Wouldn't that be a reason to be done discussing it?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

people talk about the weather all the time

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't pick them out, you loon, you have to try glasses on.

http://www.eyeglassboy.com/New_mens_Eyeglasses_frames_Shuron_Combo_ronsurs.html

http://www.eyeglassboy.com/Vintage_Mens_Frames_Eyeglasses_Diplomat-II_32.html

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Will there be a TT this week?

We seem to have some interest. I tried to spark conversation on it yesterday, but with limited success. I'm in, for what it's worth.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to see if I understand correctly. Was the argument against the stereotype of males as more promiscuous than women that it is 1) inaccurate, 2) (possibly) accurate but too touchy a subject to discuss in very general terms (ie, validating the stereotype when the proper discussion is to talk about individuals) or 3) something else entirely.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

holy crap, i just got a slightly smaller than scale photograph of myself in my gmail. it scared the fuck out of me when i opened it.

xpost, i'll be up for TT if i have any $$$ left.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm in for TT as well, I suspect.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm in!

Also, I found a good Christmas present for myself:
http://www.fredflare.com/display_images/2607_D.jpg

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

i like the first ones better evan.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm pretty sure i've got pics of my dad wearing those exact same specs

thanks for the link, btw! just what i've been looking for

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i think i found something for myself as well:

http://www.jameson.cz/index.jpg

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I should be able to make a TT. I just dont' feel like drinking. Maybe that'll pass, but right now alcohol sounds meh as hell.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Probably better selection here but images aren't all online:
http://www.eyeglasseswarehouse.com/50-60-glasses.html

http://www.allynscura.com/mensvintage_index.htm

http://www.retrospecs.co.uk/catalogue/default.asp?b_id=131&s_id=2&c_id=1

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

for those of you who a) know the game & b) care about my choice:
i have disowned my previous 'barf or bone' . . . i am finally willing to admit that he is total barf, as they say.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

count me out of a but, sadly, into b.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

wait, what? barf or bone?

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that kind of like F/M/K?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

i care, i care,
i really don't care

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

what the fuck is f/m/k?

sounds like a leftist student organization from the '60s.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

why isn't it friday night yet?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

barf or bone is a game invented by my good friend, Brooke.
The deal is that you have to choose a person who you find both attractive and yet disgusting. Were they to enter the room, you don't know whether you would "barf or bone."

My B or B was Carrot Top. No hassles, please.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, and speaking of friday night. ronnys. bands, swine, good times.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

The deal is that you have to choose a person who you find both attractive and yet disgusting.

HI DERE.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

other barf or bone highlights have included:

Martha Stewart
Eminem
Britney Spears
Andre the Giant

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

F/M/K = Fuck/Marry/Kill -- 3 names are given, and you pick which goes with which act according to your little heart's desire.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

CARROT TOP??!?!?


dude wears makeup fulltime. also, loves coke!

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

AND DIALING DOWN THE CENTER *wink*

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

(i don't know what that means.)

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, Kelsey, Carottop -- that is truly, truly...gross. I know you said no hatering but...!?!?@2/?2/2/

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, hate full blast

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I KNOW!!!!!!!!

The point is: He is off the list!!! I have thrown him out with the garbage!

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

barf/bone

michelle malkin?

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

nah.

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

C'mon dude, go for the full Coulter

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

On the other hand, Carrot Top is a GREAT barf or bone b/c he is so full-on BARF to so many. That's kinda the point . . . choosing someone that is 'bone' to so very few.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

who's that?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I know what Kelsey meant about Carrot Top! He has a great body, but he is really gross otherwise. It's confusing.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

THANK YOU!!!!

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

er, xpost.

barf on the coulter.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

My new b or b is Howie Mandel, for what it's worth.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the effect of the confusion resulting from a Barf or Bone would be an overriding BARF that supercedes any possible Bone.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

if b or b is burn or bludgeon i'll take either.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Most of the cast of Miami Ink. Now, that might seem like an obvious "bone" cop-out but listen to those guys talk/argue/breathe sometime and ask yourself: SRSLY, do I want to deal with this in the morning? Or ever? The barf possiblities come slowly to light.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

barf on the coulter.

Well, he said Malkin, I'm just taking it to the next level.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't know who malkin is. i keep picturing leonard maltin, in which case barf. unless he's wearing one of his patented turtlenecks... hmmmm. no, still barf.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i'll bet judy barr topinka's a real tiger in the sack.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I would've thought that Carrot Top's iron-pumpin' bod would be the thing that would've finally tipped him over to BARF.

Kelsey started a thread about this on Ye Olde ILX.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I fucking hate people who do weird random shit like make weird grimacing faces for no reason or who smack their mouths during conversation. There is a guy next to me at Argoo Tea on the phone who *SSSSUCKS* in through his teeth at certain pauses. Fuck people like that. Especially when he is talking about really boring case files.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

hahahahahahahahhaha still laffin at carrot top "he is a very sensual man" hahahaha. glad you've chnaged your mind.

i am in for tt but i have to do this other thing first so instead of being early i will be late. byebye for tonite.

xp -- i'll bet judy barr topinka's a real tiger in the sack.
-- otto midnight (effyouto...)
PEEING PANTS

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i'll bet judy barr topinka's a real tiger in the sack.

Well, there's all the birth control I'm going to need for a while.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

seriously, i'll bet thirty years ago, with a belly full of bourbon, she was probably a cyclone between the sheets.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Fuck/Marry/Kill is pretty fun on road trips. Half the fun is just coming up with interesting trios. For instance, when I've played it with C4n4st4, we've done trios like "Chicago sound guys."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

did i say that? on the internet, no less?!

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

teach me f/m/k. do you have to personally name all three or do people give you options & you have to make choices?

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

what'choo talkin' bout willis?

http://abclocal.go.com/images/wls_081805_topinka.jpg

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

you can do photos now, otto?

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

One person picks three people, it can be anyone. Sometimes the three can be tangentially related to make it more interesting. Then you go around and each person picks who'd they'd F, M, and K, and states their reasons why.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

just not this one vowel-challenged photo sharing site.

xpost.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Howard Stern does it on his show all the time, which is actually how I discovered the game.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Can we play Fuck, Marry, or Disregard instead?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Destroy?

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

can we please play this game at tt?!??
pleasepleaseplease i am entertained.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

how about Court, Woo, or Make Eyes At, can't we all agree on that? Wally? Beav? Eddie? huh fellas? how 'bout you Lumpy?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't forget Make Time or Go Steady!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

My barf/bones: Bob Sagget and John Goodman. Except I don't feel very barfy about either of them.

I think the reason why the acronym GSO bothers me is that I think you guys are talking about a symphony orchestra at first.

Then I would abbreviate GSOSO.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Sagget!

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe a game that's all about people we hate. Ann Coulter: Wound, Kill, or Kill and Then Desecrate the Body?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it 'cause he's secretly a perv? Or rather, secretly a normal dude?

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost And if the latter, in what way, exactly?

This could be a dark, dark road trip.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

and here i was thinking that kenan was so sweet for suggesting 'disregard' b/c he didn't want to play a game where people got killed.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I was at first. But I just couldn't leave it alone, could I?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah Kenan, this is why people on the internet think you're crepey.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, "kill" does seem really extreme when the other two options are casual sex and marriage, both of which are (hopefully) pleasant activities. But if you have a group of things in the same ballpark, it works better.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Except, GSO has no SO so that's just a silly objection, Johann.

ALSO: Girl from Ipanema is a great song and my most requested jazz band song is Mercy, Mercy, Mercy FOR THE SPREADSHEET.

THE END BACK TO MY ESTUDIARINGNESS.

But first: xpost - four reasons: 1) he's actually pretty funny; 2) he's pretty good looking in a nerdy way (and that's my way); 3) I secretly find America's Funniest Home Videos generally entertaining when it's not all about nut shots; and 4) there's this look of trapped desperation in his eyes during AFHV that I find strangely appealing, like this ability to communicate a deep, just barely burried loathing for his job while still fooling a lot of Americans into thinking he gives a rat's ass about their home videos of brides falling over into wedding cakes. I fucking respect that.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

you just know he has a collection of pron that would fill, like, a mid-sized town's public library though, right? i mean, that's obvious isn't it?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

You just know Saget would play Desecrate the Body with me.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

The Good Emily finds my Bob Sagget position appalling because she says she can't respect a man who hosts AFHV if he really hates it as much as I think he does. But I think it's delightfully subversive.

I have not see the Aristocrats. I like knowing that it's out there, but I enjoy my delicate emotional Bob Sagget equilibrium to mess it up with additional information. Such as speculation on his public library-sized prawn* collection.

*I always read that as prawn because it's funnier that way.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i've got a craving for this:

http://i4.peapod.com/c/N3/N3MTV.jpg

but the spicy ones, not the original.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

jenny - i heart you & your reasons.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Mercy, Mercy, Mercy is a great song. My top 3 record versions are:

1) Cannonball Adderley & Joe Zawinul
2) Buddy Rich Big Band
3) Maceo Parker w/Reb1rth Brass Band.

They're all incredible.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

insert "too much" between "Sagget" and "equilibrium" up there okay? Thank you. Good bye.

KELSEY, I also heart you mucho.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

1) Cannonball Adderley & Joe Zawinul

I don't know who Joe Zawinul is, but my favorite version is from some live Cannonball Adderly disc that I have, so I guess that means I have an "EAR FOR JAZZ."

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

oksrslybacktobookskthxbi

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sure that's the same version. Joe Zawinul is the keyboard player, who wrote the tune.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

later chicago.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

i love the spicy ones too.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i've got a craving for this

I've got those in my freezer right now. Spicy ones.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Are those fake chicken?

I've got Morning* spicy black bean and mushroom lover's veggie burgers in my freezer, both of which I've been enjoying.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Oooh. I'm a Mushroom Lover. Is there a club?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

the spicy black bean burgers are awesome!

i'm hungry.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Are those fake chicken?

Yes, hence "Chik" Patties.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Who do we blame for "______ Lovers" in food products? Pizza Hut?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, hence "Chik" Patties.

Gross.

(it's taken me this long to get into veggie burgers, I'm a long ways off from being down with fake chicken)

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, yes there is, I'm glad you asked.

http://www.mushroomcouncil.com/history/national.html

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

W/r/t me and fake meats: How about never? Does never work for you?

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel you are gr8.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Lauren mostly OTM, with the notable exception of fake hot dogs, which are made mostly of tomato and are every bit as good as their sketchy meaty counterparts.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

jordan! try the chik patties! it's like elementary school!

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Fake meat is great. Tofurkey deli slices 4-EVA!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a Best's Kosher for lunch, it was delish.

it's like elementary school!

This is not a selling point! For anything!

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Looking at Julia's roomates food selection sometimes, I am a little weirded out. There's a ton of fake meat of various consistencies in there. Fake ground beef? Are you serious? I mean, I'm not totally closed to the idea (I like fake dogs!), but when I look at all that I think, "One of those might be tasty. But there's no way they all are."

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Tofurkey deli slices 4-EVA!

You should get that tattooed on your stomach.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 23:04 (seventeen years ago) link

tofurkey deli slices are a very special sort of nasty, imo.

i like well-prepared tofu. fake meats are usually suspect and scary.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

laurel: i had that new yorker cartoon on my fridge for a while.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Lauren mostly OTM, with the notable exception of fake hot dogs, which are made mostly of tomato and are every bit as good as their sketchy meaty counterparts.

I only buy kosher dogs, anyway, because you know they're all beef and no "parts". Keebler.

Julia, I used to work with someone who posted it outside her office

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

My love affair with tofu was short-lived, because I decided that it's only really good when heavily fried (which sort of defeats the point of eating tofu, no?).

Keebler makes kosher hot dogs??

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

tofurkey deli slices are a very special sort of nasty, imo.

No way. They're like 10 times better than any other fake deli slices -- great consistency and seasoning. Yves deli slices are thick and wet and kind of gross.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, my roommate W was just saying how if they're going to make fake meat look more and more like the real thing, why not just make a thin red sauce to go with it, that will pool on the plate like blood off a rare steak?

(Keebler called me Lauren.)

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link

ah

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

haha Oopsie.

I kind of like "Keebler" though.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/IMG_4760.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't much like fried tofu, it's still flavorless on the inside. properly marinated, it's great.

i may well hate all fake meat deli slices, i haven't tried any but the tofurkey ones.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link

This conversation is getting me psyched for chicken wings tonight.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 23:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Hannah's Bretzel has ruined fake meat for me. I didn't used to mind it that much, but now I can't stop buying the real good stuff.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 23:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Hannah's Bretzel!

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i am wearing the same hat as kenan

jenny - i heart you & your reasons.

-- sweet tater (kelstarr...), December 5th, 2006. (sweet tater) (later) (link)

cosign

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 23:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Nobody asked but here is why I like John Goodman:

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4569/totoroallsleepms7.jpg

Also, I think we could drink a lot of beer together.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 01:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I love John Goodman. when I was little I used to pretend Dan on Roseanne was my dad.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 01:37 (seventeen years ago) link

jenny, we should be best friends.

q: guys, should i get drunk/stoned and watch seven samurai OR have a home alone dance party?

― grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 01:38 (seventeen years ago) link

huh.

an video ad online (those annoying ones they show before streaming video)--two twentysomething guys are in a cadillac listening to yes and debating whether that band is cool. so they pull over to two bikini-clad women walking by and ask them if they listen to yes. the response? "of course. it's classic rock."

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 01:56 (seventeen years ago) link

DANCE PARTEES. May I suggest Futuresex/Lovesound?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 01:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I vote dance party, too!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 01:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Best friend Evan, Seven Samurai is ten years long. Do you have the drunk/stoned attention span to watch a ten year long movie? If not, then DANCE PARTAY.

I was listening to Kompakt Total 7 in the library earlier and having my own study dance party, much to the amusement of my colleagues, I am sure.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 02:06 (seventeen years ago) link

right now the only attention i have is for self-pity and cry cry baby shit. note: if you have friends, KEEP THEM.

May I suggest Futuresex/Lovesound?

-- Laurel (sininspac...), December 6th, 2006. (Laurel) (later) (link)

quiet you.

― grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 02:09 (seventeen years ago) link

OH NO Evan. I'm sorry that you are too depressed to finish biting through a piece of toast. I hope you feel better.

I have slashed and burned a friendship or three in my life. It is sad making.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 02:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i still have energy for wine, at least.


and i didn't so much slash and burn friends (lately), as I did move away from them.

basically: i miss chicago, and having friends of any kind.

― grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not meant as consolation, but you're doing so very much better than my sister did in her year at Winter Park. Individual circumstances were v different, obv, and WP SUX as a town, and she was younger and less emotionally resourceful...but it was the worst year of her life even though she did have some casual friends and a main squeeze (who was a bozo, but that's another story).

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 02:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm listening to the Sunn 0))) & Boris album, including some kind of limited-release 28-minute "prelude".

It is a large and moving Torg!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 03:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Except that track 3 is really pretty, for some reason. I'd be fine without that track.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 03:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, more on the "music you might actually like" tip, this new LCD Soundsystem is seriously great. Much better than the first one, and I like the first one a lot. He lets a lot more of his Bowie/Eno/New Wave junk jiggle, and it's... great. I don't mean to gush or anything.

If anyone wants it, I can... do that thing we sometimes do.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 04:15 (seventeen years ago) link

The first track is straight-up Bowie, and it's delicious. Track 5 is straight-up New Order, and it's savory. One of the tracks uses a piece from 45:33, and it's nutritious.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 04:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't have time to read 2500 posts but...I live in Chicago.

As of 2 months ago.

― Zachary Scott (Zachary S), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 04:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Welcome.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 04:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks!

Which part of 45:33 does the new LCD Soundsystem use? The 7:00-17:00 of 45:33 always gets mad props, for a reason.

― Zachary Scott (Zachary S), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 04:34 (seventeen years ago) link

The part they use starts at 9:15.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 04:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I only just "got" 45:33. I kept listening to it as a workout mix, only I wasn't working out, so I kept being impatient and waiting for it to get faster and reach some kind of screaming diva house music high, which it doesn't. But forget about that shit, and it's really good.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 04:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey Evan. Go out to a local bar and create your own dance party? Does this have to do with your not wearing deoderant?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 04:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, and Hi, Zachary Scott.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link

and i didn't so much slash and burn friends (lately), as I did move away from them.

basically: i miss chicago, and having friends of any kind.

Whoops! Project much, Jennyfur?

Hello Zachary Scott. Welcome to Chicago.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 05:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, somehow I missed the part about being lonely in a strange town. I know it sucked like hell for me in NO. But I did sprout a whole new branch of my personality that allowed me to make bar-friends like crazy. That's why I would suggest going out to a bar by yourself, maybe a dead one where you can chat with the bartender. And then dance.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 05:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, look what I found (in reference to Ju|ia's earlier post): http://tweekerchick.blogspot.com/2006/11/so.html

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 05:32 (seventeen years ago) link

That's pretty great.

From the comments: "I didn't really agree with the whole 'guys don't like to cuddle' thing.. but I can understand why a lot of guys don't."

She can understand that? I can't. Girls are soft and warm. However, I do agree with the part about falling asleep all intertwined. I have to be pretty wiped out to pull that off, and even then, once I'm good and asleep, I'm likely to have a rude "stop touching me" episode that I won't remember.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 05:44 (seventeen years ago) link

That made me think of that scene in Groundhog Day when Andie Mcdowall is describing her perfect man to Bill Murray with things like "Not afraid to cry" and "Cleans up poopie diapers" and he says, "Are you sure this is a man we're talking about?"

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 05:49 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/41251

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 05:54 (seventeen years ago) link

9. Whining when he pushes your head down on his cock instead of stroking your hair. Know why he's pushing, skippy? Because you aren't doing it right, and have apparently ignored the other clues he's given you. Pay attention to the signals that he's sending you.

This reader's response

1. "Because you aren't doing it right" is not necessarily true; sometimes it's just fun to push and thrust (for the receiver as well as the giver of fellatio).

2. It's so fucking annoying to receive bad head from a guy. Guys (on guys) don't have much of an excuse: unless you have never received a decent BJ, you should be able to perform at least some reasonable reporduction of the technique you enjoyed, ding-dong. The problem is either the giver is a bit dense, lacks interest in the job, or is uncoordinated. Or has never received good head--but if you're with me then that is unequivocally not the problem.

3. It seems like there is a steeper learning curve for straight sex. Thus, #2.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 06:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, what more post-coital cuddling could a person want than spooning? It's totally comfortable, it's cuddling, it's holding, it's a position you can sleep in. IMHO: perfect.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 07:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Not here. At some point, just stop touching me.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I am awake at 6 in the morning because it was time for a Mai Tai. Meaning that it was maybe 90 degrees in my bedroom, and I had to get up and crack the window. Then that didn't work and I went and opened the window wide. Then I said fuck everything, I'm having a cigarette. Oh, and water. I'm a tad parched. I guess the trouble is that it's a mere 37 outside? Sigh. This is going to be a long winter.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 11:57 (seventeen years ago) link

The window has been open all the way for a good five minutes now, which I figured would be risky since it might be freezing in there when I walked back in. Nope. It's still a little too warm. I'll give it another five.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:01 (seventeen years ago) link

regarding the fake meat thing, there used to be a sketchy grocery store in my 'hood (edmar [r.i.p.], for those who remember it) that would occasionally have chicken patties for rediculously low prices. being a fan of both bird and things i can microwave and eat in under 90 seconds i used to buy them. when i was house-sitting this past week, the freezer was stocked with morning* stuff, including the chik patties. the fake chicken tasted no different than the real stuff because with both all you can really taste is the breading, the "meat" is mearly the agar used in conjunction with the breading. and the morningstar breading was much superior.

so there's my fake meat story.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I sleep far, far better alone and I get backaches from any intertwined sleeping positions, but it makes me sad to always be scootched to opposite sides of the bed like logs/total strangers. I cannot win. I also kind of hate both those list-writers, even though both are at least a little bit right.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:54 (seventeen years ago) link

cold beds seem colder when you sleep in them alone, the one that got away called me as i was climbing into bed last night and we were discussing this phenomenon. we were in total agreement about it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, it's actually scientifically true: heat-sharing works!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I was suspicious of fake meat for the first few years of being vegetarian and openly mocked it before that. Now I love soy tacos, veggie burgers, chik patties, chik nugs (on and off, sometimes they gross me out for some reason), and the best are the fake corn dogs. I never really got into fake deli meat. Tofurkey, especially the ones with fake bones, give me the creeps.

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, someone once crankily scolded me for touching him while sleeping and even in my sleep-fogged state, I was like "Yo, that should be your WORST PROBLEM, that your girlfriend curls up to you while she's sleeping. Shut up." So no sympathy here!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I also kind of hate both those list-writers, even though both are at least a little bit right.

I dunno. I think they're both about half right, and I don't hate either of them. But maybe that's because I can only have the perspective of one sex at a time. Maybe if I could morph like a Moorcock character.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

it's too early for this, what else is going on today? anyone? anything good? oh! since i took monday off it feels like tuesday to me today but guess what? it's wednesday! so that means thirsty thursday is coming early for me, thank fucking god.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

No way, they're both only a little bit right, but both are totally convinced that they're 100% RIGHT and take, in order of address, a patronizing, moralizing tone, and a shrewish, brassy one. All unbecoming.

Also, for either one to be 100% right the world would have to be a place I couldn't live in, hence the vehemence of "hate".

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

At some point, just stop touching me.

Actually, that's not true. I do like a little bit of something against me. Just not AROUND me or ON TOP OF me. (Me and my cat fight about this, too.)

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Right, but the moralizing is somewhat called for, I think, if I apply those rules to myself. And the brassiness is... well, sexy.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I listened to the podcast of last Sunday's Wait Wait Don't Tell Me with Amy Sedaris and I laughed so hard on the train that I am sure people were considering calling the conductor for assistance. About 30 seconds into her segment I stopped trying to snicker behind my hand and just sat there and laughed loud and proud.

So I recommend it, especially to AS fans.

I like fake meat, generally.

Both of those list writers can take a long walk off a short pier. They both fall into the biological imperative trap within the first ten so they can both bite me. Also, everything Laurel said 2x.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, that's not true. I do like a little bit of something against me. Just not AROUND me or ON TOP OF me.


i don't mind waking up and finding an arm or leg wrapped around me. or finding someone's head on my chest, that's always a welcome surprise for me.

unless, y'know, i went to bed alone or there's no body attached to the limb in question.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Huh. The magical tropical heat has ended and now I'm cool again. I guess that's because the outside temp has risen to a balmy 32.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

And the brassiness is... well, sexy.

*GAG*

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Sleeping: I can't sleep spooned or otherwise touching someone for more than, like, an hour. Then I have to scuttle off and sleep all sprawled out on my stomach, or just lay half awake all night.

I just got into work a little while ago, I was working on this recording that I'm obsessing over and lost track of time. But my boss is out of town this week so it's "cool".

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

We're going to be talking about your heat a lot this winter, aren't we, Jesse? Also, with you on the gag.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

EVAN, THIS IS FOR YOU:

http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1161456405123.b.jpg

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

If anyone wants it, I can... do that thing we sometimes do.

Yes, please!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

John, I YSIed and sent to Mark, but I don't have the link with me at work. He should. Otherwise, I'll re-up it tonight.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

My brother Mark??

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

just e-mailed you, john

― mark cunningham (robots in love), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

wait, where did you move to evan?

and, speaking of new towns, i've been bummed lately about the whole friend things to. it was triggered b/c my birthday is soon & under normal friend-full circumstances, I'd convince friends to come out on saturday. as it is, i think leaf & i might see a movie or eat food out in the world or something.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

hi mark!! you were in my dreams a few nights ago. you had a baby.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

hi kelsey--i don't have a baby!

― mark cunningham (robots in love), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

i know! but you did in my sleep. it was w/ yer ex . . . C. I forget how it all came about (my knowing about it, not the making of the baby).

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/79/233144639_d89efca8bf_o.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

However it happened, I hope he was very considerate and asked politely before penetration.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

are they aiming to have the birds hump their hats? what is that?!

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

http://img201.echo.cx/img201/3692/batshark9wi.gif

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

completely unrelated, but the Batman birds reminded me: i saw a great blue heron yesterday, just chilling in the parking lot to my apartment complex. it was huge--at least 4' tall. quite a beautiful creature.

― mark cunningham (robots in love), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

wow.

hey -- what's with people using their real names on the sandbox? not that i'm complaining: i have more info to add to my spreadsheet now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I love blue herons. My parents get them by their house. They're so elegant & yet secretly evil b/c they can be so aggressive . . . before my cat passed away, we were always afraid she'd get stabbed by one.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost You didn't have your brother's name on the spreadsheet? I guess that makes sense.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess I'm mostly thinking of Dr. Morbius, who was going around posting as Bill Weber for a few days.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.fnal.gov/ecology/wildlife/pics/Great_Blue_Heron.jpg
now i wish i could have seen it in flight

― mark cunningham (robots in love), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to see a blue heron. where must one live for such a thing to happen.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

well, mark is on the west coast & my parents live in delaware . . . but they're usually around water. i think i've seen a couple in minnesota since moving up here.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

birds amaze me.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

seeing that photo reminds me of how much i love bird legs & toes. on the blue heron, for instance, their legs are so so long & once they get up in the air, everything tucks in so tidy against their belly.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I've seen a few back home in MI. Sandhill cranes too.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw one of these standing in a pasture next to the freeway on Sunday.

http://www.sfgate.com/getoutside/1996/may/photos/egret-profileR-wade.jpg

― Michael White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

screw chicks, dude

― grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

that's an egret, right?

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

At the college I attended in the UK, there were a couple of peacocks that hung out by one of the academic buildings. It was beautifully unsettling.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.ukpics.net/images/chicks-large.jpg

?

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i was at an art gallery/farm in new zealand & peacocks ran around inside & out. that was kind of beautifully unsettling as well.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

One thing I find odd is that the joint in the middle of those bird legs is not the knee but the ankle. I think horses are the same way, actually.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Cats, too! The weirdest thing about birds is that their knees bend "backward" to ours.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I love the dancing kitty! I also love birds. Cuddling in bed is great, but I can't sleep that way, mostly because I can't sleep on my side.

This dvd intrigues me.

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

that's an egret, right?

Yeah.

― Michael White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

want to see a blue heron. where must one live for such a thing to happen.

i saw a few when i was canoeing on the huron river in ann arbor two summers ago.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Bird legs freak me out, actually. Too then, bend the wrong way, looking all reptilian, etc.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

then = thin

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

a friend of mine has a story about when she was little: she was always getting into arguments with her brother about whether birds have knees. at one point the argument turned into a physical fight and she broke his arm.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

"Too then" sounds like it could be a synonym for "so five minutes ago."

"Too then -- not enough now!"

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Birds actually do have knees, but they are closer to their bodies and often hidden by their plumage.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha.

Sarah, the next time I break up with someone, I'm giving her that dvd.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

how are things with Emm4?

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

The birds' 'knees', like cats' 'knees', correlate to our ankles, not our knees.

― Michael White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

What about the bees' knees?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Pretty good, Kelsey. Taking things slow.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

two lumps please, you're the bees knees but so am i

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Would $30 buy you anything at a Michael Anthony salon? A mani? A pedi? I need to get my secret santa gift. I know she loves that particular salon, but I don't know if it's tacky to give someone a gift card that isn't big enough to cover ANY of the services...

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

there are a couple of manicures under $30, Sarah (and a whole bunch of waxing, if she's into that.) also, $30 sounds really generous to me.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

heh

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, good. I don't know if you were here for it, but I was complaining a while ago about our office Secret Santa minimum gift amount being $35. Thankfully, I got someone I like well enough, so I figure I'll get her a gift card and then some dark chocolate from a chocolate boutique.

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

YOU SHOULD BE SPENDING AT LEAST $35! MINIMUM! GOD WHAT IS WITH YOU, ARE YOU JUST CHEAP OR SOMETHING?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

UM... xpost

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

minimum $35??? who do you work with, oil tycoons? god, being a grad student is so sad.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

who do you work with, oil tycoons?

Worse. Shrill, pushy bitches.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

back when I worked at a real job, our secret santa MAX was $20. that is the civilized way to accomodate your lower-paid staff, of which I was one.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Just got the e-mail about the annual office Glögg party two weeks from today. Expect drunken posting.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't know for sure, but i might be able to set you up with a discount on gourmet chocolate, sarah.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

secret santa's are all but against the law here since it would be a federal violation for me to buy a gift for a supervisor. technically i'm not even supposed to pay for his coffee which i've done numerous times as a result of football wagering. which is also illegal now that i think about it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Yup, Kenan.

Oooh! Could you find out for me pretty please, Julia?

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i'll see what i can do, and let you know.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Jambalaya from the cafeteria today... hmmm. I hope this sits well.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Good luck to you. I had canned corn chowder which was pretty much just over-processed, sweetened goop. Never again.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Status: Tasted okay, resting comfortably. Still wary of that hot sauce.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i ate a chik'n patty. spicy, no less!

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

This African menthol gum is pretty good, though. I have brushed my breath.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Kiss me, I'm mentholated.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, I was wrong yesterday. I don't have the Morningstar chik patties in my freezer, I have the Boca ones.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a hot dog again. Luckily it was the last in the package so I can go back to real food.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i am picking at leftover aloo ghobi. i just can't convince myself to eat much of it though--the daal was much better (i LOVE daal). star of india is a good place, but i'm not really in the mood for caulifloweriness.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a really hard time with cauliflower. It's one of my least favorite vegetables.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

The CTA can seriously kiss my ass.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

The CTA can give me a Christmas Blumpkin.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

What'd they do now?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, it's been slow for me before, but it's never been this bad. What happened today?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I waited 21 minutes for a fucking northbound train this morning. As I waited, 5 southbound trains (I have "Southbound Pachyderm" in my head now) went by, and 1 "express" northbound.

Also, I renewed my ChicagoCard Plus last Thursday and it worked 1 time and then stopped. I re-renewed it on Saturday and see that I was charged $75, but it still was inactive! I called customer service where I held for 10 minutes. The CSR said "You were supposed to wait 3 days after renewing before using your card. Because you didn't, your card deactivated. I'll reactivate it, but don't use it for three days." WHAT???? Has anyone else ever heard of this??????

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Never. Sounds like bullshit.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I only have the standard Chicago card. Once the machine ate my $20, though, and I had to spend a long and arduous time on the phone getting it back.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

And WTF, if they're on the stick enough to immediately DEACTIVATE your card, why not immediately ACTIVATE it.

The CTA can give me a Christmas Blumpkin.

It's the least they could do. But you know how that goes. Forty acres and a mule.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

My commute has been totally fine lately. I think I've realized that getting on the train before 9:15 assures speediness -- after that, they assume that people aren't actually going to work anymore and thus won't complain as loudly if there's a delay.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the Brown line is eating up Red's efficiency.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, definitely. Which is weird, because the work is actually going on on the brown line. I guess they figure they can disperse the complaining if they make one branch of the line deal with closed stations and construction and the other branch deal with huge fuck-off delays.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Every. Single. Day. My commute gets worse and worse. Most days I wait forever for a train, and every day the train moves slower than molasses from Fullerton to Grand. If I leave for work 1 hour before I have to be there I am still not assured that I won't be late. No amount of bitching is enough to express how frustrating this is.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, see, my delays are always before Belmont. Between Fullerton and Grand? WTF are they doing there? They sure as shit haven't announced anything.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I was on a train that was poking along btw North/Clyborn and Clark/Division and I heard a man scream right outside my window. That was pretty cool

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Is there a bus alternative? You guys have all those fancy Inner Drive and XX Express buses over there, right?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

No bus alternative that would make things better. I wish I could take the 147 Outer Drive Exp. I love that bus. (Except for the day I took it and it was running 25 min. late and was the single most crowded vehicle I had ever been on. To make things worse, another 147 broke down and we had to pick up all of its riders! People were snapping at snarling at each other.)

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

You have bad public transit mojo jesse. My commute is great. I leave an hour and 15 minutes before I am supposed to be at work. I walk up to Addison and there is usually a bus coming, which I hop on even though it's only 3 blocks to the red line. On the red line, I stand at the last car and have gotten a seat nearly every single day. If I can't get a seat, I usually see another train rounding the Sheridan corner, so I just wait for that one. All in all, it takes about 30 minutes, door to door. Unless there are problems with the train, but even then, I haven't been more than a couple of minutes late.

I could take the 147 inner drive bus to work, but it is hard to get a seat on it and it takes longer, and is bumpier. Plus there are too many white people.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, I meant 146 bus.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Plus there are too many white people.

Good thing you don't take the Brown Line! It is like White Central in there.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I went to the local Aids Service Org to explore some employment/education/volunteering opportunities today. The guy who I spoke with exacerbated the sour mood that the CTA started. He was completely unconfident and wet-noodly. On the phone I thought he might have been a 15 year old with low self-esteem. When he greeted me in person he said, "Good afternoon--uh--good mor---good morning---uh, Jes--Mr. Kehr--uh, Jesse?" He went on to say such things as, "There are a lot--um.... There are a lot of--um.... We have a lot of--there are lots of opportuni--opportunities...um....here. Um...wow, you write fast."

Later there was a loud noise outside and he yipped and grabbed my arm for safety.

As it turns out he is way experienced in HIV/AIDS and GLBT shit, but he's just kind of a noodle-boy.

Anyway, the upshot of all this for me is that I should be able to make a little career shiftaroo some(hopefully soon)day.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I love the 147 because it's sometimes only 15 min from Foster and Sheridan to Downtown.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i used to take the 147 all the time...

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Noodle boys are for stomping on on your way to the top, baby. Greed is good.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan: oh man, we're like sisters
me: you're a fucking dyke

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

It's going to be funny when you start ovulating together.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

And smooching each other's hoo hoos.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

He neglected to mention that we were both simultaneously typing "as the Germans say" about the word "drinkenurge" that Jesse had just coined.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, you weren't supposed to tell them I'm a lesbian, Jesse.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Regarding spooning: I can sleep that way all night. Even when I'm alone I have to have a body pillow in front of me most of the time. (and I almost never sleep on my back.)

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Holy crap, a building blew up in Milwaukee today.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Goddamn!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

the opposite of a christmas miracle.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

really, that's awful. and the story of how the supervisors assure them the gas was off and told them to go back to work is especially messed up.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Just goes to show: You think your boss is an idiot? You're probably right.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Ikea is great because they have cheap energy-saving light bulbs. 3-pack for 3.99. Have I already said this?

I replaced my stairwell bulb with that.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

That's a big fuckign explosion.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

(Sorry Jeff)

Nine! Nine degrees! Wow.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I felt like I was wearing ice pants this morning instead of jeans. I should have worn some legwarmers under those. YOWZERS!

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 7 December 2006 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

It's 4 degrees here.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Dudes, I had an intense Thai experience last night. It may have been the spiciest food I had ever eaten, and you know it's not like I ain't eating spicy food. I pounded two beers like they were shot glasses of water and I could only finish just over half a bowl. It was seafood curry. At one point the blood flow to my head was such that I literally, seriously felt high.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan wins. (EEP!)

So, I'm assuming TT is at Old Timers today, huh? Maybe we could find somewhere just a little cozier? If not, that's ok. I mean, Old Timers IS cheap. It would just require being out in the cold a little longer than I'd like. (How far is it from the el?)

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Ice pants! The mind boggles.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm really putting off taking a shower because there are going to be moments of extreme coldness involved, I just know it.

I'll bet Kenan and Jesse's apartments are nice and toasty, though.

xp - Old Timer's is just under two blocks east of the State/Lake brown orange green purple pink line station.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I bet my apartment is toasty, too, though I wasn't in it this morning. I was going to go buy a wrench this afternoon to turn the heat off in my bedroom, but I think that can wait another day. WOOF it's cold today.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

So, I'm assuming TT is at Old Timers today, huh? Maybe we could find somewhere just a little cozier?

I'm up for going anywhere, I've got a full compliment of Carhartts today and am pretty much impervious to the cold.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

(Though I am going to the new location of Leve| 0ptica| to pick out frames today and that'd be v. convenient to Old Timerz.)

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

EZ on WBEZ now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Two quotes about smoking from all-time masters of the aphorism:

1. A cigarette is the perfect type of a perfect pleasure. It is exquisite and it leaves one unsatisfied. What more can one want? (Oscar Wilde)

2. To cease smoking is the easiest thing I ever did. I ought to know because I’ve done it a thousand times. (Mark Twain)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Heard it! When he said he couldn't play guitar "like a normal person" I had to larf.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I got in to work literally JUST IN TIME to hear the piece. Whew.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

DAMMIT I just missed Eric. Fudge.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

What could be more convenient, cozy or loving than Old Timer's? I have been looking forward to a greeled cheese and beerz since I woke up. Also, I brought cookies. For everyone.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

At least I hope there are enough for everyone. There should be enough for everyone to have at least one. That should distribute the poison evenly.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I have been looking forward to a greeled cheese and beerz since I woke up. Also, I brought cookies. For everyone.

Damn that sounds like a lovely evening.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I've got a full compliment of Carhartts today

Moi aussi. Another big shout-out to the kind folks who gave me this big-ass coat and these crazy warm gloves. You know who you are. :)

A couple days ago I was leaving work wearing this coat, and one of the girls said, "Carhartt? Way to go, farmboy." And I was like, "Laugh if you want to, but one day I'm going to be warm and you're not." I think today is that day. (She was wearing Uggs at the time, and I thought about making a joke about Trixies, but thought better of it. Besides, they do look warm.)

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Cf also "But in the morning, I'll be sober..."?

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I think dry, 16 degree days (hey! It's warmed up!) are the perfect days for Uggs. I don't even get irritated at their existence on days like today - they DO look warm! Plus nobody who can afford Uggs and isn't crazy would wear them with shorts or a miniskirt on a day like today.

You hear that, Ugg-wearing people of the world? You have my blessing!

(Similarly, I saw a young woman working at Intelligentsia on Jackson wearing black Crocs (sans holes) and they seemed like a logical and nice-looking choice for her situation. Am I getting soft???)

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

they DO look warm!

That's what I'm talking about!!

What are Carhartts? I thought it was a coat, based on context clues, but then I don't get what "I've got a full compliment of Carhartts today" means...?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a brand of hearty outerwear. Think Dickies.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.workinggear.com/gc/customer/cartt_go.html?ROITrakid=1

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Think Dickies.

You know that's not going to help him any.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

You know what's funny, Kenan? One of my coworkers asked me why I was wearing such a "light jacket" today. It's the heaviest, warmest coat I've ever had! Also, the toughest.

xpost: They do make coats, but they also make jeans (a flannel-lined pair of which I am wearing today) and hats (somehow I have three of the and) as well as other "work" clothing. So: hat, coat, jeans = full compliment. I wish they made boots, they'd be unstoppable.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

They kick Dickies' ass up and down the street. Or the construction site, whatever.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Dry is better for Uggs, def, but they still get dirty and I find that people still tend to shuffle around in them w/o picking up feets. Plus let's face it: I like drinking the haterade. I am pro Crocs, tho!

XP: They also make one-piece work/snowsuits! Good for snowmobiling, sitting in deer blinds, and lying on the frozen ground to fix cars.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

(somehow I have three of the and)

fixed: (somehow I have three of these and wore one today)

xpost: My dad got one for Xmas the other year, he wears it to blow snow and chop wood and stuff. It's the baddest-ass snowsuit ever.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish they made boots, they'd be unstoppable.

That site Jenny linked to looked like it has socks that would make boots almost superfluous.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok. Old Timers it is. I forgot about the grilled cheese (!). Also, I'm excited about cookies.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

True about the shuffling and the dirty. I guess I'm just all about situationally appropriate clothing. I'm also more forgiving when weather extremes demand drastic wardrobe measures. I would be more scornful of someone wearing sling back pumps today than someone wearing Uggs.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

There's something to the farmboy = warm thing, I think. One of the warmest pieces of clothing I ever had was a hoodie I bought for $20 in the middle of bumfuck Kansas. It was, like, triple lined. It was as warm as a coat. I loved that thing. Someone stole it out of my laundry.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a similarly warm, equally loved, and eventually stolen or lost lined Carhart hoodie.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I almost bought a Carhartts coat last week! It was like a jacket/hoodie. A joodie. Hacket. It was a black work coat with the hoodie-pouch and an attached hood, I looked forever to find one in a regular size and then decided it just didn't look good on me (big boxy shoulders, huge hood, elastic on the ends of the sleeves, etc.).

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i have had the same Carhartt hoodie for....ten years?? best ever.

― grbchv! (gbx), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

once i put it on, actually, i will have on a full complement of Carhartt outerwear.

― grbchv! (gbx), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

You know that's not going to help him any.

Ha, but all I know of Dickies is that they make jeans and workshirts popular among skaters and rockabilly dudes. Do they make outerwear, too?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

This was the jacket:

http://image.bizrate.com/resize?sq=160&uid=400997308&mid=71828

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

As long as basically graceful mobility is still possible, I am so in favor of situationally inappropriate clothing! If it's simply impossible to walk on the ice in anything but crampons, then crampons it is...but if it's just the cold, I would be so proud of someone wearing slingbacks well and showing no pain. RESPECT YO.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

those things are stupid warm, Jordan. every 'neck in town owns one

xp

― grbchv! (gbx), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Carhartt is not so good for winter sports tho. I've found their stuff can be too warm.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

very true

good for winter standing.

― grbchv! (gbx), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, which makes it perfect bus stop attire. Or driving a slow tractor, which was probably the original idea. But I'm all about perfect bus stop attire.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

What time is everyone getting at Old Timers? I can be there pretty early (I get out of work at 4:30).

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I might get the 5 o'clock, but I've heard good things about the 7, too.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I should be at OT sometime between 4:30 and 5:30 (when the eye doctor closes), it all depends on how fast I find some good frames.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I will probably not be there any earlier than 6, since I had to reschedule my Tuesday class for tonight. I'll be at Madison and Wabash until 5:45 and then I guess I will find some way to get to Lake. Brown line?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Is anyone familiar with a rock n' roll combo called the Zutons? I've heard the same song on college radio three times in the last week and I like it.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll probably be there at 6:30.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

JC -- name rings a bell but couldn't tell you anything about them.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't make TT tonight. :( I was looking forward to F/M/K.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Raise a glass for me, and wish me success on my legal ethics final tomorrow!

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

So to get a headcount, I see Sarah, Dan, John and myself raising glasses to Jenny in absentia?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse said yesterday that he's in, too.

What about husbands/fiances/etc? EZ? Kev? (I'm kind of worried he might be frozen solid in his heaterless apartment)

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

EZ is playing that show at Merch Mart tonight.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh shit, you'd think I would have retained that tidbit of info from the interview this morning.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

And Nick!

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

That was an xpost, obviously.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Please share my righteous fury:

Someone is using a WALKIE TALKIE in the computer lab.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

A real one? Is he construction crew? There could be a reason for it.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Although this may not be the same thing, I really wish people would stop putting a speaker feature on ordinary cellphones. Not a lot of people use it, because it's fucking stupid, but the people who do use it are just cruisin for a bruisin. For the safety of the user, these should be banned.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

CHIRP

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

YEAH WHADDYA WANT


BAGELS? NO THEY DON'T HAVE BAGELS. HOW ABOUT SOME NORMAL BREAD? HONEY, THEY DON'T HAVE BAGELS. THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE.

― grbchv! (gbx), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

*flies into blind rage, kills everyone*

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I use the speaker on my cell phone to check voicemail if I'm also going to do something else, but only IN THE PRIVACY OF MY OWN HOME.

He's not a construction/maintenance/building engineer. Student lab only. I would be less irritated by he's listening to headphones and so has the ringer turned WAY UP so he can hear it when it rings. Which is kind of mind boggling.

But it's all pointless because a whole fucking gaggle of undergrads working on some ding dong group project have descended are are sitting next to me blahblahblahing about some business school bullshit.

I just feel so old sometimes - like it's some sort of monumentally old-fashioned concept that people might like a quiet environment for studying and anyone under 25 has evolved beyond that needs thanks to early exposure to frenetic TV programming while doing homework.

Anyway, I'm considering the murderous blind rage option. I'll let you know.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I learned at work last week that 40% of digital music sales are RINGTONES. Who uses ringtones, seriously? My phone is always on either vibrate or (when I'm at a movie or play) silent. Subjecting other people to the synth riff from "Ridin' Dirty" or whatever emanating from my pocket seems kinda rude.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I just feel so old sometimes - like it's some sort of monumentally old-fashioned concept that people might like a quiet environment for studying and anyone under 25 has evolved beyond that needs thanks to early exposure to frenetic TV programming while doing homework.

OTMFM

this is my beef with my roommate -- he'll be all "well, time for some studying!" and then park it on the couch, turn on the TV, and start reading. waht. also is baffled and a little hurt that i study in my room, with the door closed. he is 23.

don't get me started on the fucking ACTUAL TEENAGERS I have in my classes.

― grbchv! (gbx), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

My friend N8 has a program that allows him to make his own ringtones. As such he has some really choice ones, like "Party all the Time" for when his gf (now wife) calls him. Beyond something like that, they're utterly stupid.

This reminds me of a time I was riding the train home, iPodless for some reason, and there was a guy going through EVERY. SINGLE. RINGTONE. on his phone, one at a time, and letting them play all the way through each time. So many people on the train were giving him the eye daggers, it was incredible.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Who uses ringtones, seriously?

It's letting other people know you're cool, is all. It's a mating call. A boomin' system. The kids love it. "Rude" is not a concern.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

My friend N8 has a program that allows him to make his own ringtones.

Yup, me too. They can be comic. Like "Da Ya Think I'm Sexy" -- I like that one.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

My ringtone is the Canadian National Anthem.

There is a limited amount/type of studying I can do with certain media distractions. For example, I can outline with sports on TV for example, because outlining doesn't require as much concentration and I am only marginalyl interested in sports. Also, I have learned to study with music out of self god damn defense but it has to be fairly smooth. But I cannot read law talking stuff with distractions - it's to fucking lame/boring/difficult.

I find intelligible live human talking and random loud noises (AS FOUND IN THE COMPUTER LAB RIGHT NOW) the most distracting.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

oh no she's blown her fuse

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

You guys my face is BRIGHT PINK. I think I have windburn or something.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I do like the idea of ringtones, but I'm too self-conscious to ever use them outside of my apartment or car, and it's not like I'm going to remember to switch my phone to "ring" every time I come home or get in the car.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, I have learned to study with music out of self god damn defense but it has to be fairly smooth.

http://image.listen.com/img/356x237/0/8/2/1/651280_356x237.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

You're damn tootin' sonny.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that John Michael Montgomery? He looks a lot like the picture of Bob Seger on the cover of the new Bob Seger record.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

AGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH
first my face is burnt off and now my EYES??!?!?!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I've had Sexual Healing as my ringtone for years. Not 'cause it's cool, I just don't want to pay money for a new ringtone.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

ha ha, Manda. I have a zit on my face!
When were you last outside?

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/09/46/35/45/0009463545062_500X500.jpg

Don't ask me how I knew what this looked like, I don't remember.

xpost: Sorry Amanda! Don't look at this one!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I like my ringtone, but I have no idea what it is. It's obviously a famous melody. Maybe you guys will be able to identify it.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

That's Michael McDonald in the pic I posted.

Speaking of Bob Seger, though, I was at my cousin's house for a family dinner a few weeks ago, and my mom was talking about how great the iTunes Store is ... "Except the other day," she said, "I was trying to find some music by Bob Seger ... for a friend." She didn't actually mean to pause like that -- it was in fact for a friend (she claimed not to have ever heard of Bob Seger before) -- but I can guarantee you there was much ribbing.

I told her that she was probably misspelling his name, that it's just one E, not two like Pete.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

(Dan, I'm guessing you meant Michael McDonald. John Michael Montgomery is a clean-shaven dimple-faced country dude.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Why did I think there was a "John" at the beginning of that guy's name? I would say I'm retarded but come on, this is classic rock we're talking about.

xpost XPLAINED

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Bob Seger - Face the Nursing Home

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

That's Michael McDonald in the pic I posted.

Yeah, come on Yacht Rockers! I'm a little disappointed in you all.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000025JQ.01._PE32_.Kenny-Loggins-Alive._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

He is so happy!

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

He also has no eyeballs. Or soul.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Somebody photoshop some glowing red demon eyes on him.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Seger does not look good these days:

http://www.lauracreamer.com/images/seeger_creamer_hof.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I was last outside at 8AM. I have been in a tiny, drafty room with a space heater for the last 4 hours. I wish I had a ski mask.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

why is his face that scary color?
(xpost about Kenny Loggins)

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

This one's harder:

http://www.vh1.com/shared/media/images/sn_legacy/addict/AMG_images/artists/P11778.JPG

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Christopher Cross is cute.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll go sailing with him any day. Or the old him, anyway.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I was the president of the Michael McDonald Lack of Appreciation Society for a long time. My association with that association cannot be discussed in a public forum, as it may incriminate me in several non-violent crimes.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny OTM, of course.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

He looks a little like Billy Corgan there. Remember when he was also cute?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

My unironic love of AM Gold is no joke, people.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

OK what about this crooner:

http://wwws.mmjbdata.com/graphics/www.mmguide.musicmatch.com/artist_image/amg/drp500/p553/p55323c585m.jpg

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

My friend 3van was trying to convince me that Michael McDonald has got some serious soul. He's an unironic yacht rocker, I think.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

"Sailing" is a really pretty song. There's no way around that.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude, I love it too. But I cannot stomach the soulless sounds of Michael McDonald.

Gerry Rafferty?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, 3van.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

McDonald is a great backup vocalist, or with the Doobies. A songwriter, he ain't.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Gerry Rafferty?

I don't think so. And it's not Gordon Lightfoot, either. The annals of lite rock beardos are to vast to take wild guesses like that.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

KarlNemetski (1 week ago)
Badass track by my man Christopher Cross. If you play close attention... this song is actually about espionage. Can someone say "Swordfish" or "Keyser Soze" from the "Usual Suspects" ? Nothing is what it seems. Scope the lyrics reeeeeeeallll close... LOL
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― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan OTM.

I'm stumped!

*shame*

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Bob Welch?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I think that one may be a little too hard... I'm trying to think of a hint that doesn't totally give it away.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

SUCH A LONG WAY TO GOOOOOOOOOOO

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Bob Welch?

The former Oakland A who won the 1990 Cy Young Award and the last major-league pitcher to amass more than 25 wins in a single season?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

See also: Robbie Dupree

I love that video for two reasons:
1. I love the song.
2. He is rocking the quintessential Yacht Rock look, right down to the non-aggressive sweater and white pants combo.

xpost - no ding dong. Bob Welch.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

How about... he's only really known for one pop song, and he also wrote a Tony-winning musical.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Rupert Holmes!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

dingdingdingdingdingding!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Marvin Hamlisch?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Who the eff is Rupert Holmes?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

He wrote the Pina Colada Song.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I've heard the title. Listening to it on YouTube now, don't think I know the song.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Gerry Rafferty wins. His perm was more awesome.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, you were better off that way. xpost

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I can play Baker Street on the saxophone. Or at least I could the last time I tried, which admittedly was about 8 years ago.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I used to play "Jump" by Kris Kross on the clarinet, much to the delight of the African American girls in my 8th-grade band class.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

The best part of the Steal Away video is when he gets DOWN toward the end and like, bends his knees a little bit.

Rupert Holmes was much more than the Pina Colada Song. Oh will the inoffensive white men of AM Gold ever get their due?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

The far superior Rupert Holmes song "Him."

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG listening to "Baker Street" right now -- didn't know this song had a name!! Or ... a verse. Weird: I've heard that sax riff a million times out of context, apparently.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Him! Him! Him!
Me! Me! Me!

xpost - See John? First "Africa" and now "Baker Street." Let me be your tour guide on our soft rock odyssey.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

We'll return changed. Softer. Mellower. Wearing crew-neck sweaters and white pants.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

The far superior Rupert Holmes song "Him."

See, your knowledge of the man far exceeds my own. There was some googling involved in my answer. But I did remember that the guy who wrote Pina Colada also wrote a musical.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost: i bought a ringtone. i bought the theme to 'the people's court' (when i had been drinking some wine) for when leaf calls me. i thought it was hilarious. it's actually kind of a funky tune.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Thursday, 7 December 2006 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

You're right, having just heard both for the first time, "Him" > "Escape."

LOL at "The People's Court" ringtone.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Oooh, I looooove "Africa."

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

It's on the jukebox at Richochet's.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

The video for Africa is crying out for a feminist/critical race deconstruction. There's dissertation material there, I am sure.

Also, so many glasses and mustaches...

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Do you think it's at the Hidden Cove? I've been practicing just in case...that song totally reminds me of driving around with my mom so I listen to it in the car (more frequently than I would like to admit).

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

It's on the jukebox at Richochet's.

Is that where we heard it? I was trying to figure that out.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Also the lead singer of Toto looks a little like John.

xpost - Man, I hope so! Also, my AM Gold love I am almost sure stems directly from driving around with my mom in her orange VW Rabbit, listening to the radio through one little dashboard speaker.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

xp -- me too me too me too re: speaker, only ours was a ragtop caprice classic

Although I have my heart set on Asia.

HA

HA

ha

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Chicagoist covered the karaoke scene last week.

I wish I'd driven around with my mom listening to AM Gold! But I was probably a born a couple years too late. My mom did listen to smooth-jazz radio (WNUA) in the late '80s, though, so I'm familiar with Double's "Captain of Your Heart" and Donald Fagen's "New Frontier" and Go West's "What You Won't Do for Love" and the collected works of Sade.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Sade is mah girl.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

wow, that "Africa" video. I'd never seen it before.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Captain of Your Heart.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

You know how crazy old ladies tend to wear huge amounts of blush? (or rouge, if they prefer)

That's what I look like right now! I look like I woke up in the morning and said "Yes, this would be a good day to apply clown makeup. Today." That's how red my face is.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

is Sade AM Gold? I love Sade.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Does your face hurt like it's been burned?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes my face hurts like it has been burned.

Sade is after AM gold as far as I'm concerned. BUT My bff and I made up a song called "Smooth Toilet Paper" in her honor.

Coast to coast and into the Acme,
go down theeeee
aisles and there is no Charmin left,
I think I'll die...
so I buy the
smooth toilet papaaaah
smoooth...toilet paaapaaaaah

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Sade is post-AM Gold, but could be classified within the more inclusive "Soft Rock" category.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

[note: Acme was our local grocery store]

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I used to get terrible wind burn/dryness while skiing. I'd have an outline of the space between where my mask stopped and my goggles began. It was like a little chevron across my cheeks.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

That's me! We are vewwy sensitive.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i SHOULD NOTE that we made up that song when we were 7 or 8 years old, not recently.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Woah woah woah John, do you mean "What You Won't Do For Love" as in the Bobby Caldwell song?

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

omg LOVE "smooth toilet paper"!!! Amanda, you have made me very, very happy.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

You can thank my 7 year old self for that gem. We also penned "Mr. Toilet Bowl Man" in the "style of New Edition."

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm heading to the train in a minute, see some of ya'll later this evening!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Woah woah woah John, do you mean "What You Won't Do For Love" as in the Bobby Caldwell song?

Apparently so. Didn't know it was cover. (Man, YouTube is great.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I forgot to share a gem from today's papers:

"...picturing a girl playing the foamy game."

Guess what the foamy game is.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Come on, I know you have all played the foamy game.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.surround-sounds.co.uk/images/event/foam_party_6.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Based on a sampling of "What You Won't Do For Love" performances on YouTube:

Go West > Bobby Caldwell >>> Dionne Warwick (live) >>>>> Boyz II Men

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Nope, it was a small child. She was blowing bubbles.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to go to a foam party with a Christian youth group.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, Tom Wolfe.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha! I almost spit my apple out.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

See you all in approximately 2 hours, give or take 15 min. I am hungry and will come bearing cookies. Someone should call Kevin to make sure he's not frozen.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Go West > Bobby Caldwell >>> Dionne Warwick (live) >>>>> Boyz II Men

I have to check some of those out! Digd0wn has talked about doing that tune.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

What's with people leaving work early to go drink? Is that a valid reason? I've never tried it.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

behind on this thread...

but, omg baker street.

i am mad at my computer for being all slow with the youtube africa video.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

eric's interview on 848 is up:

http://www.chicagopublicradio.org/audio_library/848_radec06.asp

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Thursday, 7 December 2006 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Kr is coming to TT, yay.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:29 (seventeen years ago) link

CONFESSION:

i was in a bluegrass band back in CO that did a cover of Africa. I was the singer :-/

― grbchv! (gbx), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Late_Night_with_Conan_O

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 23:49 (seventeen years ago) link

"I write a new verse of 'We Didn't Start the Fire' every few years. Right now, I'm up to -- 'A-Rod, Ipod, Jacko's Free, There's No God.'"

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 00:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone should call Kevin to make sure he's not frozen.

I neglected to mention this at Old Timer's, but I sent him a txt on my way up from work and he responded saying he was sick and had just woken up. Sick >>>>>>> Frozen

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 8 December 2006 03:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Depends on what kind of sick.

I just listened to Eric's interview! He's so cool.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 8 December 2006 03:28 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, Eric's interview was great.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 8 December 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Surely Kev is sick partially because he is frozen. I feel like we should take up a collection. To what end, I'm not sure. But damnit, I feel almost like in Kevin, I have my first homeless friend. YOU CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT HEAT IN THIS TOWN. SOMEONE HAS TO DO SOMETHING.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 04:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Why doesn't Kevin have heat? I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that's illegal in this town. I've got a pal over at MAP - should I give him a call?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 8 December 2006 04:40 (seventeen years ago) link

YES! By his reports, he has no heat. And as we can plainly see on night like this, that's really fucking criminal.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 04:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Unless he's squatting.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 04:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Heat would be known as an "essential service" - http://www.tenants-rights.org/index.php?page=heat#q1.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 8 December 2006 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, I called Kevin a while ago, and I feel like a dick again. (Again, you say? Yes, again.) This is none of my fucking business.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 05:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I did not go to TT. Nor did Courtney. This is because we made some big mistakes last night. We were going to go to see For Your Consideration but wound up futzing around with her iTunes for too long, so we just went to the Beuna bar where we drank 2 bottles of wine and something else. Then I walked home and got a bite to eat at Crew and had a beer. I wound up hanging out at my house with a friend I made there. Today sucked.

Did you know that Carhartt jeans are considered pretty fashionable? They are popular amongst gay men. Maybe because they flatter the booty like no pant ever has before. They're like the Wonder Bra for butts.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 8 December 2006 05:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin - I put Kenan up to calling you. Plz don't think he was a dick - I was the dick.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 8 December 2006 05:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Nobody was actually a dick. I just shouldn't be worrying about people's business, is all.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 05:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, if you find out we don't have heat and the temp drops to single digits outside, please call and worry about our business. I will do the same for you.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 8 December 2006 06:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think anyone's a dick, i appreciate the concern but no one needs to be worrying about me.

unrelated: i have taken more cabs in the past week than i have in probably the last two years. took one home from delilah's the other night because it was too cold to walk to ashland, took one home from the holiday club last night because i just wanted to be home as fast as possible, took one to work today because i was running behind and the next bus wasn't due to arrive for another 15 minutes. i forget how handy having an auto can be. it took me almost 90 minutes to get from the ukie village to uptown last night, the trip home was completed in less than 20.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 8 December 2006 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Kenan, it's called CARING. It's all the rage with the kids these days.

I don't feel like doing work today! I have more Christmas shopping to do.

My tree looks beautiful. I finished decorating it last night. I used strands of the huge colorful bulbs that blink AND tiny white lights that cascade in strings. I also managed to work in every single ornament we own, except for these tiny bows that Nick nixed, or Nicked if you will.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 8 December 2006 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I listened to Eazy's radio dingus this morning as well, pretty great. I had no idea about the freakish guitar playing style.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm supposed to be going this show tomorrow but i'm not sure, getting out of town for a night (even if it is just to milwaukee) would be fun but i should probably do some xmas shopping or something.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 8 December 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Kenan, it's called CARING. It's all the rage with the kids these days.

This is new and strange to me. I want to know more.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

http://dachuda86.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/hitlerjerk.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

anyone up for this? i'm giving it some thought.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 8 December 2006 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

that would be awesome

but i have no santa gear

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

me neither but i love the idea of a group of drunk santas on state street in the middle of the afternoon.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 8 December 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

for some reason I read that as "dark santas"

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

with the amount of bile and self-loathing i have welled up in me i can assure you i would be the darkest of dark santas.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

i think i can challenge you on that

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

My tree looks beautiful. I finished decorating it last night.

Ha, Kr said last night that her mom asked if she had a tree, and we had a good laugh because we have never known anyone in Chicago to have trees. I stand corrected!

For the record, I like Christmas trees, but considering I barely have anything on my walls, it's not exactly a high priority. Is yours real or fake, Sarah?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.chickenshop.co.uk/acatalog/SM22993.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Kingfish has done the Santa convention before, either in Portland or Detroit.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

my first xmas in chicago (or oak park to be more accurate) the only place me and jen knew that was selling xmas trees was on harlem and lake, i carried a 7 foot tree from there back to our place on washington two blocks west of austin. my arms were so cramped when we got home i couldn't put them back down to my sides.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

OH BTW YOU GUYS: I just beat a parking ticket this morning. I had an in-person hearing with a judge, and I was totally like "Look, I wasn't blocking an alley or parked in it, I had my blinkers on, and it's a pretty wide alley, vehicles could totally move past me" and the judge said, "This notice says 11:31 AM," and I said, "What? No, it was PM," and she punched a few things into her computer and was like "You're right, all the other tickets the officer wrote that day were at night, too" and I was like "Well, yeah, I wouldn't have been in an alley at all at 11 in the morning," and she was like, "The notice is factually incorrect, which is grounds for dismissal," and I was like, "Awwww yeah, you just saved me $150" -- or $145, actually, because I then took a cab to my office.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

It's a fake tree. My Dad bought it several years ago when my family descended upon a dorm room in Charlottesville for Christmas. It wasn't even my sister's dorm! It was someone else's she was staying in during the holidays whom she barely knew. Anyway, we had my whole family there, and even the other sister's boyfriend for a while (though the rents didn't know about that). Anyway, when it was over, my dad said I should have it because I am the oldest (but mostly because I was the only one out of school and in an apartment).

I love putting up the tree. I didn't do it last year because I was going to France. This year I'm going to DC, but screw it, I wanted it up anyway. It totally cozies up the place. I love it.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Did I mention I love it? Anyone who wants should come drop by to see it and maybe have something hot to drink and pet a cat.

Way to go, John!!

― Calico (calico), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

my apartment has a menorah (roommate is jewish, but i requested we bring it down because i think they're pretty) and a single christmas ornament. i kind of like that level of holiday decoration.

xp yay on getting out of the parking ticket!

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

You need to go full-on nuts with the Chanukah decorations. I wonder how one would do that.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I was super-nervous, too, because the woman who was before me was this Trixie (with an Old Town address), and the judge was totally playing hardball with her. She got a ticket for not having a city sticker displayed, and she claimed that she ordered one online, but it never showed up, and she went through all this red tape to follow up -- and judge was all, "Sorry, it wasn't on your car. That's a violation."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

trixies be payin'

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

You need to go full-on nuts with the Chanukah decorations. I wonder how one would do that.

Potato latkes hung from the walls.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Odds are good we're going to be in town next Christmas and that being the case, I totally want to get a tree. I've got this box of antique ornaments that belonged to my great-grandmother Elizabeth that I have carried around with me from state to state and stubbornly refused to get rid of and dammit, I want to hang them on a motherfucking tree. Also, dammit, I love Christmas, or at least the tree/music/hot drinks/decoration aspect of it and I am excited to have a chance to make Christmas happen my way.

Congrats on getting out of the ticket, John! We got two parking tickets in one day right before we sold the car and I was all FUCK THIS I'M FIGHTIN' 'EM and I sent in the paperwork and then forgot to go to the hearing and Jeff was less than pleased with me.

Okay, I'm off to take an exam. Send me some positive, edifying vibes.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

http://santaconchicago.com/photos/costume_ideas/images/51/original.aspx

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, speaking of which I'll be celebrating the end of Chanukah with breakfast at Ashkenaz deli.

Also, I had a jazz cd buying urge last night but was denied because (of course) the store didn't have anything I wanted, but I just realized I can go to the Jazz Record Mart in a couple of weeks! This makes me happy.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

and then forgot to go to the hearing

I nearly did this as well. I finally got my license in the mail yesterday after my speeding ticket last month, and I was thinking "Hmmm, I wonder when my hearing is for the parking ticket ... oh shit, I think it's this week."

Also, dammit, I love Christmas, or at least the tree/music/hot drinks/decoration aspect of it

My favorite part of Christmas was always Christmas Eve, when we went to church and then came home and my dad made a special dinner (like Moroccan stew or linguini w/scallops or fondue) and then we'd sit around the tree with coffee and homemade cookies, and Mark and I would exchange presents, and then we'd get to unwrap just one present from our parents, and we'd listen to Mel Torme's Christmas album. Also the lights in the living room were dim so the tree-lights could glow.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

My favorite part of Christmas is Jesus. I like to build a life-sized nativity scene and listen to hymns and hold my own private Mass in Latin and then roll on the floor in the holy nativity hay in religious ecstasy.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that what the kids are calling it these days.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

This is the origin of the term "roll in the hay," if I am not mistaken.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

has anyone else heard the bruce mccullough album? specifically, "i just wanna say that i really love the baby jesus...." ?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I luvses that album. "Answering Machine" used to be the song on my answering machine. It was so long no one ever left a message. Perfect.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't even see a manger without thinkin' about him

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

i have two copies of that cd, one was jen's but it wound up with my cds. i happened to be listening to it the other day. "that's america" is timeless.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't even see a manger without thinkin' about him

i believe the quote is, "I can't even see a manger without thinkin' about him, eh?"

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I've wanted to hear that album for years!

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Would any non-Catholics like to attend Midnight Mass with me? I wanted to do it last year, but for some reason didn't. I just think it would be fun to dress up real nice and watch a bizarre, antiquated ritual in a very pretty building. It'll be like theater! Who's with me?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i can not think of anything more depressing than going to midnight mass.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I do like Latin.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never been, is all. Maybe I'll find out how depressing it is.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd definitely be interested in going to a Latin Mass -- does anyone know of any that exist around here?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd definitely be interested in going to a Latin Mass -- does anyone know of any that exist around here?

http://www.cantius.org/

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

haha non-catholics. because Catholics are a bit creepy, yanno.
(should really capitalize consistantly but meh.)

i used to play violin duets with my sister at midnight mass every year at christmas.

i wonder if i should have a christmas movie marathon--elf, bad santa, and it's a wonderful life.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Elf has that one girl with the funny name who is pretty.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Now you know.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks Otto -- yeah, I know where that church is. Right by the Chicago Blue Line stop.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

When you're a kid and you go to Midnight Mass, does that mean you sleep late on Christmas morning? Or is there just huge napping that afternoon?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

no, we just didn't get much sleep. when we got older we slept late on christmas mornings.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I always wondered what went on in that church. Or any church, for that matter. I imagine fantastical goings-on.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Elves and fairies and chipmunks and dancing ponies and the like.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

when you're a kid there's no such thing as sleeping late christmas morning. you crash later.

i wouldn't mind finding a place with a polish mass. i'll bet st. helen's must have a few polish masses for christmas, it being the polish archdiocese of chicago and all.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Now you know.

that Catholics are Creepy?

xp, oh yeah, i loved those dancing ponies when i was little.

i think the most fantastical thing about our masses was chocolate donut holes afterwards. and my lovely violin stylings of course.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

When my Indian mentee doesn't understand something, she always says, "Why so?". It's really fucking cute.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

And I don't mean cute in an R. Kelly way, more in a chipmunks and dancing ponies way.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

she always says, "Why so?"

Well, it's depend.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.depend.com/images-new/beltedBtn_280x280.jpg

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Guys, I don't know what to say. A senior citizens' chorus has performed Sonic Youth's "Schizophrenia."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Go old people!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

TS: apples vs. pears. Go!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

they also performed a cold play song

― grbchv! (gbx), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

pears.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

An amazing pear at the height of its ripeness trumps all apples, but such a pear is a rare thing indeed. Outside of that ripeness window, pears aren't very satisfying, whereas apples are just fine at least 80% of the time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

^^^^ correct

― grbchv! (gbx), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

that seems right. I think it's related to how I feel about pie v. cake, too: the best pie is better than the best cake, but in this fallen world one often gets better cake than pie.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Apples bore me lately. I can't find any good Granny Smiths. I want an apple so tart I won't be able to talk for an hour.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

That said, I just has one of those amazing, perfect pears that jaymc described, so I choose pears.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

just HAD

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i would gladly pay a man tuesday for an apple pie today.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

apples might be better than pears in pie. I don't think I've ever had pear pie.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Pear pie sounds like it would be good, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

pear pie would be full of mushy goo. Pear cobbler would be possible, I guess. But really, anytime you cook a pear you end up with something more suitable for spreading on taost than anything else.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

it's a little awkward to say, with the alliteration. but it sounds delicious, yeah.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

spreading on taoists? sounds kinky.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

What's the diff betw a pie and a cobbler?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I'm hungry, guys. mmm, mushy pear goo.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

The tao is the way to all things kinky and pear-flavored.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

baked pears can be good, if they're soaked in booze and drizzled with ganache.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Pie has a top and bottom crust, and you eat it woth a fork. It has shape. Cobbler is fruit compote with something crunchy or doughy baked on top. You eat it with a spoon.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

cobbler=pie w/o bottom crust, right?

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Pecan_pie_slice.jpg/250px-Pecan_pie_slice.jpg

vs.

http://www.rawfoodchef.com/assets/images/Peach-cobbler-250p.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

ooh... pecan pie.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

baked pears can be good, if they're soaked in booze and drizzled with ganache.

I am going to gain weight this holiday season. Oh yes I am.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

omg porn\\

http://grande.nal.usda.gov/fs_recipes/imgs/CA/Rise_and_Shine_Cobbler.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

omg, you can't post stuff like that unless you can produce it immediately for me to EAT!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Note to self: buy country apples at farmer's market on Sat and make pies this weekend. Roommates will love me, house will smell amazing, breakfast covered for all next week.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought about starting a thread to post pictures of delicious-looking food on, but then I remembered that there are a lot of Britishes about.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

...who would inevitably post things like black pudding and stewed tomatoes?

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

For folks that were at TT last night, the TASTY JEWISH DISH I was thinking of last night is KUGEL.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought kugels were those little personal exercises.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

...who would inevitably post things like black pudding and stewed tomatoes?

Or whatever the fuck this is.

http://www.a2kay.de/wp-content/britishfood.jpg

It is the anti-cobbler.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I love kugel.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I know, I know, hoary, unfair, and unfunny. So sue me.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

No Kenan, that's kegels.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, right.

I think there are classes for that at the health club upstairs.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

hey, how did the game of f/m/k go? i totally would have gone to tt if i'd woken up at 4:30 instead of 5:30.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 8 December 2006 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

We didn't get to play f/m/k, unfortch. But we did talk about some hilarious things from back in school daze... And, just in case you guys thought I was kidding about "Is internet commerce will change our lives" ... I give you this: http://www.awesomecs.com/ospwww/ecommerce/ecom1.jpg

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 8 December 2006 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

page 2: http://www.awesomecs.com/ospwww/ecommerce/ecom2.jpg

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 8 December 2006 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

And right now the business on the Internet has become more than you can imagine , you not just can buy or see the stuff from the Internet , you can also bidding for the stuff from the Internet.


wow, just.... man, my brain can't take it. impressive. two thumbs up, WAY UP, for that.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 8 December 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

yay, Dan!

This is where you can start ignoring me...

I HATE HATE HATE my coworker Hemroid. I hope a reindeer sticks his antlers up her ass. My boss asked me if I knew where she kept a particular file. I looked for it and didn't see it. So he asked me to call her and ask her where it is. So I did (she's at the jobsite and at home today). She said, 'There are a few of those papers in this file, some over here, some over here... I've never kept track of that account.' So I pull this, that, and the other file and give them all to my boss who is standing behind me waiting. I say, everything is in here but it's completely random. If you like, I can call the bank and get everything from them together. He says, I might have you do that, but for now let me see what I can find in here. I scurry away.

Anyway, she just called and asked me which months were missing from the statements. I said, I have no idea. I just gave him everything. She's like WHAT?! You didn't pull out the statements from the other files?! Me - No. I just gave him everything to go through and offered to contact the bank. She - Well, you SHOULD have pulled them out. You really should. Now he's going to be upset with me for not having it all in one place!

I know. It's not my problem. It's her job. But also, IT'S HER JOB. Why is she going off on me for not doing a good enough job covering up her own fiasco? Grrr.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 8 December 2006 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

In better news, it's Friday.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Kugel is amazing.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey neat, I'm using a "gibberizer" for work:

Çhìçågö ìs gìbbêrìzêd

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

what does evan have to do with that?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

ha ha

I love cobbler. I'm sure I mentioned I made peach cobbler a few weeks ago. It was spectacular, if I do say so myself, especially considering it isn't peach season.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Speaking of it not being peach season, I have found that frozen peaches are pretty good for baking with! Throw peaches in a baking dish, sprinkle with sugar/cinnamon/nutmet, top with mounds of biscuit dough, and bake until dough is brown. Maybe at 350 degrees? It's flexible. AND DELICIOUS.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Ì'm pöstìñg ìñ gìbbêrìsh för thê rêst öf thê dåý.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Kugel is amazing.

I belatedly realized I should've called you when I was racking my brain trying to remember what it was called.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

John, am I your only Jewish friend

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Ì'm pöstìñg ìñ gìbbêrìsh för thê rêst öf thê dåý.

That's not really gibberish, is it? This is gibberish:

moomoo floompah rumpalumpa schmee. Hummah hummah maka froopah moo.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

(xp) Ha, not true. In fact, I tried to call my friend Aaron (I know, right?) who first introduced me to kugel in college -- but I guess I must have an old number for him because I got a "not in service" message.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean Jêwìsh frìêñd.

No, but it's what dudes use to internationalize software, apparently (like to show that the strings can be changed for translation).

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

^^^^my roommate to thread

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 8 December 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Hush, I have Kontroll and a documentary about Jewish homos coming today, I am very excited.
-- Laurel (sininspac...), December 8th, 2006.


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Trembling Before G-d? I tried to get people to see that with me a few years ago, but no one bit, so I still haven't seen it.
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), December 8th, 2006.


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Yeah!
-- Laurel (sininspac...), December 8th, 2006.

Jenny did you end up seeing this?

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

i wrote a paper on that movie once

― 69 (pete), Friday, 8 December 2006 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it good? I haven't seen it yet (just popped it on netflix) but I got the Zorn soundtrack a long time ago.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

None of you take Metra, do you? Apparently there was a shooting at Ogilvie this afternoon, and all trains have been delayed until further notice.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Ooooh I do. All lines? I ride the Electric.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, looks like only ones that come in and out of that part of the Loop.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

"ones" GOD DAMN IT I'M RETARDED

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yeah I forgot about you, Dan!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi, Chicago. Bye, Chicago.

I rented a car today and it is such a color as to maybe earn me some extra $$ as a gypsy cab. Weird that they would make a rental of a compact car in Taxi-Cab/OSHA Yellow.

I leave for the Great Lakes state tomorrow AM.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I'm okay, but I'm going to go to the station early just to be sure.

And yes, I am v. selfish to be concerned with my commute when someone may have lost their life. :(

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

And yes, I am v. selfish to be concerned with my commute when someone may have lost their life. :(

No no, I think this is the distilled essence of city living.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yeh. The reason I was talking about the rental car is that it has no CD player, but it does have an "Audio In" jack. Hooray! This saves me time and effort of burning CDs.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Shooting think looks like someone went postal on the 38th floor?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

There is nothing wrong or even wrong-sounding (to me) about "ones." You could change it to "Only those trains that I take..." but I think "ones" is probably preferable in casual conv.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Just talked to Jenny. Apparently things are all kinds of fucked up downtown. She was wondering why, after getting out of her exam, she could not get home.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

And yes, I am v. selfish to be concerned with my commute when someone may have lost their life. :(

This was pretty much Jenny's reaction. Though I do have to say that I don't think she knows the extent of what's up.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

She was wondering why, after getting out of her exam, she could not get home.

Uh oh. I didn't think this had an impact on CTA, though. In fact, CTA is supposedly honoring Metra tickets tonight.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link

HELP!

hello chicago ILX people! i'm not in chicago. i'm in toronto. i haven't read any of this thread so i have no idea what i'm interrupting... but anyhoo...

i just found out i'm going to chicago tomorrow! so i need knee-jerk, off-the-cuff, top-of-your-head suggestions for what i should do tomorrow (saturday) night. i'm staying at the hilton downtown (michigan ave), so i assume i'm fairly central, but probably all the cool stuff is further away. i'm not afraid of cabs. i won't be heading out until 10-11ish, and would prefer a cool bar/spot rather than a gig.

ideas?

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh wait. Apparently it was all just wacky activity on the street. She said CTA is fine.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 8 December 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

the offender was armed with a snub-nosed revolver, a knife, and a hammer. he was shot to death by the cops. he may also have shot himself.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 8 December 2006 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, Metra is working again.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 8 December 2006 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Rumors kill thread.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 8 December 2006 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link

going home kills thread.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 8 December 2006 23:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Enough filth/hilarity for one day -- I'm going home! Actually that's a lie, I'm going to eat pork dumplings with Carly. See you popsicles later!

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 8 December 2006 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi Rob.

There isn't much to do downtown. I'm not feeling particularly inspired so I'm just going to state the sort-of-obvious and say go to Wicker Park (northside Damen stop on the Blue Line). There's lots to do there. The Damen/Division area has bars, but it'll also be clogged with hipsters. There are a few good spots, like Small Bar, Rainbo, and Gold Star. Others will probably dispute my choices (and rightly so) but that's what springs to mind at the moment.

Keep us updated, maybe some of us will come out?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 8 December 2006 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

What's the name of that bar where we went with Pete Smith where Jeff got Kravitzed? That's a pretty good bar for the location.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 9 December 2006 02:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Or SHIT, go to Old Timers! Lake and Michigan.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 9 December 2006 02:40 (seventeen years ago) link

none of you know how to speak gibberish.

nuhthugun othuhguv yuhthugoo nuhthuhgoh huhthuhgow tuhthuhgoo spuhthuhgeek jithuguhbuhthuhgerrithuhgish

― grbchv! (gbx), Saturday, 9 December 2006 02:46 (seventeen years ago) link

That's Schiavo, not gibberish.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 9 December 2006 03:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm revisiting my childhood by watching Letterman clips on YouTube. The best is when he obviously hates the whole idea of the bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns-NBzraXqI&mode=related&search=

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 9 December 2006 03:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Saw Clerks II tonight. It was good. Goodbye Horses was kind of great.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 9 December 2006 06:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Aw hell. Here's the clip itself. I love the "Oooh!"

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 9 December 2006 06:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Whaaat?

"Goodbye Horses" was released as a single in 1991 together with the b-side song "White Lines"

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 9 December 2006 06:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I think we're having two different conversations.

― PaternalCrunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 9 December 2006 06:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Aw hell. Here's the clip itself.

Where?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 9 December 2006 07:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Oops.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Np3sPFPJgXY

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 9 December 2006 13:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I sure wish this tea was coffee.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 9 December 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

haha

Coffee is plentiful in these parts. Go get some.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I just made vodka pasta for lunch. I don't think there's anything that smells quite as good as onions and garlic being fried in a little oil.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

In-building laundry is a whole new way to do laundry. I realize now that the main reason I always let my dirty clothes stack up to the sky was because it was a giant pain in the ass to wash them. I thought it was because I was inherently lazy or something. No. It really IS a pain in the ass. It's not just me.

So anyway, now that I don't have to go down the street or (yikes) six blocks away like I did at my last place, laundry is no longer an event. It's just a couple of dollars that you spend during a time that you'd be hanging around at home anyway. This is the way it should be.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 9 December 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan, you are so right. And I don't even LIKE onions! I made a 3-egg scram with tomato, havarti, and scallions, and then went to the farmers' market and bought like 15 lbs of apples??? WTF? Guess I'm making pies tomorrow.

― Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 9 December 2006 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

If any of youse live in the 60657 area code, you can get free laundry - pick up and delivery - from Mud Room until 1/31. http://www.mud-room.com/

I got one of those stupid money saver junk mails last week and actually opened because it was either that or study and LO. Free laundry. They are coming next Thursday at 9 AM to pick up our dirties. They are dropping it off clean at 5:30 that evening. For free.

Couldn't have come at a better time, either!

Generally, I really like doing laundry. I even like going to the laundromat. But exam time ruins everything, so I used the Spin Cycle's drop off service last week and this free thing next week.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 9 December 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

You'd think that two cats would mean twice as much litterbox to clean, right? But it's more like three times as much. With one cat, I clean the box every other day and it's no worry. I'm cleaning the box every day now, and there's enough pee an poop to put my one little kitty to shame. This a pee-stravaganza. A poop-tacular.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 9 December 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

You know what's awesome? Cranberry juice.

You know what else is awesome? Pulp-free orange juice mixed with lemon-flavored sparkling mineral water. Cocktails in the afternoon, yo.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 9 December 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.yousendit.com/download/qBVxUTk%2BbWx5TA%3D%3D

― JordanC (JordanC), Saturday, 9 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi. This is probably a longshot, but is anyone interested in going to see the Chicago Blackhawks v. Detroit Red Wings ice hockey contest on Thursday evening? I am considering it.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Sunday, 10 December 2006 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

How much are tickets?

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Monday, 11 December 2006 00:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Last time I went we got the cheap seats, day of the game. They were $10.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 01:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Tonight I did something that will enormously impact my life. I turned the radiator off in my bedroom. Oh, I know it sounds silly, but you just don't know. That thing was a monster. It made my nights hell, and there was no knob on it. It woke me up in the early morning, incredibly hot but unable to sweat, parched, gasping. Well, today I got a wrench, and everything will be better from now on. Tonight I will sleep. Tonight will be totally different. I will remember this night better than my wedding night.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 06:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I did this hours ago, the turning off, but at the time I did it, it worried me. I felt the radiator getting cooler, but then I walked around and felt that all of the other radiators were also getting cooler. Had I done it wrong? Had I turned the gas valve in the wrong direction? Of course, the heat was off all over the building at the time. I did not know that for sure then.

It wasn't until about half an hour ago that I really had confirmation. The radiator in my bathroom was hot as a curling iron, and the one in my living room was hot as all bleeding hell. BUT... the one in my bedroom remained room temperature. YES! YESSSSSSSS! WOO BLOODY FUCKING HOO! I will not wake up at five in the morning unable to breathe because my room is ridiculously, punishingly hot!

You can't imagine how happy I am.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 06:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm so happy I could fuck a pumpkin.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 06:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still walking into my bedroom every few minutes to put my hands all over the radiator and feel its coolness, as if I can't quite believe it. Oh, so cool. Oh, so totally off. Oh.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 07:16 (seventeen years ago) link


Mornin'.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

MORNIN, LADY FRIEND.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Mourning.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Did someone die?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Speaking of death, I'm reading a book called Corpse. I'm learning all about forensic pathology, and in the process, all about what happens to a dead body. Grim and totally fascinating.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Ooh, I'll read that one eventually -- it looked good. I still have to find that book about rats, too. (Such pleasant reading from us -- is Nick still waiting to read my book about poison? Sarah, you might want to pack your own lunches for a while.)

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

No, no one died. I'm just kidding.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I put that poison book on my amazon wishlist too. I hope my inlaws aren't freaked out.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Corpse is GREBT

Also, good morning.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I went to a lot of gay bars this weekend. It was interesting.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 11 December 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Why do all these homosexuals keep sucking my cock?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

ha ha

Yeah, Nick still wants to read that. He looked for it at the library, but they didn't have it (at all - it wasn't checked out either). Also, it's on his amazon wishlist.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Corpse is wonderful. I am pretty sure I still have it somewhere if anyone wants to borrow it.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

how are you holding up wrt finals, Jenny?

hi everyone!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Tired. I'm halfway done, though. One on Friday then the big paper on the 19th. Then freedom, sweet freedom.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.exmusic.de/prodpic/mcdonaldsweetfreedom.jpg

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll keep the spirit alive.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

oh man, that song is so hilariously bad

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

AND YET SO SMOOTH

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

And now so, so stuck in my head.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I heard it on the radio on my way back from TJ's the other week and while it was horrible, I couldn't turn it off. I didn't turn it off.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

You only did what was natural. I wouldn't turn it off, either.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Tired. I'm halfway done, though. One on Friday then the big paper on the 19th. Then freedom, sweet freedom.

i've got 'till thursday. HOLLERRRRRRR

― grbchv! (gbx), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

you misspelled "holla"

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

That's how they spell it in Montaner.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

So Evan, how long before you can go to doctor school? And then how long until you are a doctor and I can sue you for medical malpractice?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

JUST KIDDING.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I may take the PINK LINE somewhere tomorrow. I've not ridden the pink line yet. This is potentially exciting.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i almost did the same thing last week, i was in the loop and thought about taking the pink line and getting off at ashland just so i could say i've ridden it. that and the yellow line are the only two i've yet to be on.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

that and the yellow line are the only two i've yet to be on.

Yeah, me too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been on all but the pink.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I watched someone make and then eat a salami and mayonnaise sandwich and wash it down with a couple cans of Bud Light (which he then threw off the train) on the yellow line.

I have to go to Halstead and Randolph. Is that a reasonable area for a directionally impaired woman to walk around at 1:30 or so in the afternoon?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think i've ever been to skokie so i'm not even sure why i'd take the yellow line. what's out there? there must be something there to support a branch of the cta, right? or since we're discussing the cta and prudent management isn't exactly it's strong suit, maybe not.

xpost to jenny, yes, you'll be fine. that's oprahtown.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I rode the Pink line down to E's in Pilsen right after it started operation. The only really interesting part was taking the Paulina connector thingy.

xpost: Halsted/Randolph? Yeah, I'd say so.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Halstead and Randolph is easy. You can see downtown from there, directly east of you just a few blocks. No getting lost.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, and that reminds me, I LOST MY FUCKING CHICAGO CARD PLUS!!!! i got on the bus this morning and touched my wallet to the rfid reader and nothing happened, so i went to take my card out of my wallet and it wasn't in there. so in addition to losing my card it cost me $6 to get to/from work today.

pissed off at myself about this.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I watched someone make and then eat a salami and mayonnaise sandwich and wash it down with a couple cans of Bud Light (which he then threw off the train) on the yellow line.

That's kind of awesome. Salami + balls.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

jenny: five years!

― grbchv! (gbx), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

there must be something there to support a branch of the cta, right?

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/onion_news2085.article.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, that blows. I thought I lost my driver's license when I went to Midway last week... I went to go through security and it wasn't there. They accepted my UofC staff ID, though, and I went around fuming about how I wasn't going to be able to go to bars in Nashville. Then I completely tore my wallet apart and found that it had somehow gotten into a pocket I never use and was completely hidden from view. WHEW.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't read that.

er, xpost.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

motherfucker. i need my 9 digit chicago card plus account number to retrieve a forgotten password? really? well that's very helpful if you want to log on BECAUSE YOU LOST YOUR GODDAMN CARD.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Okey doke. I'm super unfamiliar with pretty much anything west of Wacker and my directional impairedness, which I sometimes think borders on learning disability level impaired, combined with existing unfamiliarity and being out of sight of the lake always ratchets up my apprehension to unusual levels. Plus we watched Marathon Man last night and the part after he escapes from the Nazi dentist and goes running off into the New York night made me realize that if I'm ever kidnapped by Nazi dentists and I manage to escape I will probably have zero clue where I am, much less be able to figure out how to get somewhere familiar, especially if someone just drilled into my front tooth sans anesthesia.

Anyway, all that plus the potential of street harassment would assure that I took a cab. But if Oprah lives there, I'm cool. And Kenan, you'd be amazed at the perfectly benign circumstances under which I can get totally and completely lost.

Skokie is a pretty big 'burb.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't read that.

Neither can I. I was hoping the headline and graphic would get my point across.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

you'd be amazed at the perfectly benign circumstances under which I can get totally and completely lost.

We need to get you a seeing eye dog. Or a seeing north dog. Erm.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

If you're this bad in Chicago, I'd hate to see you in London.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

But if Oprah lives there, I'm cool.

Well, her studios are around there, on Washington.

There are tons of food warehouses around there. If you see a place selling meat or produce, buy some. It's good and fresh and wholesale.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, i logged on to my account (my username was an old email address) and it appears that no one has been using the card anyway so i'm hopeful it's somewhere in my apartment and not on the floor of the bar or on the sidewalk on western avenue.

jenny: stay away from boston if you can't navigate chicago.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a compass on my keychain, which has help immensely.

I've been to Boston a few times but I've never been left to my own navigatory devices. I am self-aware enough to never put myself in a situation where I have to get myself from point A to point B without assistance.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

stay away from boston if you can't navigate chicago

Seconded. My trouble is that I'm so used to the grid system that anything even slightly old-world messes me up bad. "What do you mean this street goes north-northwest-ish??!"

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

You should see my in Washington, DC. I have actually pulled over and cried, I've been so lost in that infernal city.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

jenny: stay away from boston if you can't navigate chicago.
ha, i was just thinking that, reading jenny's post.

the grid system kind of freaked me out when i moved here. it was too easy, and seemed alien. i used to walk my dog for hours just trying to get lost, and never did.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

kenan, i lived in massachusetts for a quarter century and i never, ever heard a native give directions based on points on a compass. it was either left or right and then describe the road ("it's gonna take dip" or "you'll go up a hill" or "it'll hook around on you") or a landmark ("there's a giant boulder on your left, take the next right" or "last turn before the river").

i never understood how people could know what direction they were going until i realized that not all streets were once puritan-era cow paths.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Let's get lost, lost in each other's arms

Let's get lost, let them send out alarms

And though they'll think us rather rude

Let's tell the world we're in that crazy mood

Let's defrost, in a romantic mist

Let's get crossed, off everybody's list

To celebrate this night we found each other

Darling, let's get lost

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny is right: Skokie is like the 10th or 11th largest suburb in Chicago, depending on whether you consider Aurora and Joliet suburbs.

I'd suggest that people take the el to Skokie for the Old Orchard mall, except the Yellow Line doesn't actually extend that far. Therefore, I'm sticking with my Jewish conspiracy angle.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

kenan, i lived in massachusetts for a quarter century and i never, ever heard a native give directions based on points on a compass.

I'd imagine not. It would make no sense. But even looking at a map of Boston or London or some such gives me heart palpitations.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin, so you mean it's really like this?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

why is jean luc shooting chunk?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

kenan, i lived in massachusetts for a quarter century and i never, ever heard a native give directions based on points on a compass. it was either left or right and then describe the road ("it's gonna take dip" or "you'll go up a hill" or "it'll hook around on you") or a landmark ("there's a giant boulder on your left, take the next right" or "last turn before the river").

That's the kind of directions I can understand!!! Probably because I grew up in an area built on Puritan cow paths. It wasn't until I moved here to Chicago that I even made an effort to figure out cardinal directions (hence compass).

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

That's what it was like in Ohio too. "Turn left at the Sunoco next to the drive-thru."

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

It makes sense in areas with no big geographical feature to use as an anchor point. Rehoboth Beach had the Atlantic Ocean but I still never put two and two together. People just didn't give directions that way.

They would, however, call streets by unofficial names. So instead of like, Route 9 they would tell you to take King Cole Farm Road or something.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 11 December 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel weird, sleepy, and kind of sick. NOOOO!!!!

Navigating in DC made me cry and cry once too, and Nick was the one driving. There are all these fucking turn-arounds like at the Arc de Triumph. They screw with your head I tell you!

― Calico (calico), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

hey chicago! does anyone know if i can somehow redeem my chicago card plus for the cash? i obviously don't use it anymore . . . i should dig up the paperwork they gave me & ask the CTA I suppose.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

HAPPY BIRTHDAY KELSEY

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still bad with cardinal directions. In Madison and Milwaukee I'm cool with E&W because there are major freeways running those directions and pointing at lakes, but I always get N&S mixed up. I feel stupid when I ask someone for directions (say in Chicago) and they say "get off at this exit and go north" and I'm all "so would that be left or right??"

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks, john! did you get my email reply?

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes! I only mentioned it here because I wanted other folks to know!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

jordan: i am the SAME way. especially here in mpls b/c at least in chicago if i know where to lake is, i know where east is. here . . . well, let's just say i get totally confused a lot.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

john, it is EXACTLY like that.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i just thought my reply was funny. i was tooting my own horn there.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

HBK!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Re "What's the Best Way?": Does anyone remember who was actually in that skit? I know one of 'em was Sandler.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks, dan! i'm 29 today . . . my brother made a point of telling me that it's the last year i can say i'm "in my twenties."

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh wait, it sez here.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost I've got that one coming up in just over 2 months... sigh. I'm sure my sis will say the same.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Happy Birthday, Kelsey!!

― Calico (calico), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks, sarah!
oh! i've been thinking about you lately b/c there's a woman in minneapolis who does the craft fair circuit & she makes sock monkeys! i'm partial to yours, of course, but some of hers have two heads! AND she sells them for a shitton of money...

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

hey waitaminute...

"Tony Vallencourt: Boston to Nashua? You goin' up there to buy liquor pally?

Stanley Sperrow: Aya, no sales tax.

Tony Vallencourt: Alright, you just gotta shoot up 95, but watch your ass crossin' over the border. Those state troopers are outa control.

Stanley Sperrow: That's correct Tony! "

if you're going from boston to nashua you wouldn't take fucking 95, that follows the coast going northeast, you'd need to take 128 to ROUTE 3, take the lowell connector then cross the bridge at 110. fuckin' morons.

sorry for perpetuating a sterotype but i'm getting cranky about stuff like this in my old age. i was sitting in a bar this weekend yelling at someone who was doing a piss-poor job of parallel parking outside. it actually made me angry that they couldn't do it.

your favorite cranky old man,
ktr

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

were they wrong about the dunkin' donuts as well?

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

yelling at someone who was doing a piss-poor job of parallel parking outside.

Hahahahaha I do this from my kitchen window at people parking on my street all the time.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course I do it more because they leave ridiculous amounts of room around their cars and cost other people (who actually live on the street -- most of the bad parkers are commuters going to the train) precious, precious parking spaces.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

for a long time i used to say that if i could have a super power it would be to squish cars together as to create additional parking spaces. although i need that power less often here, i still think it would make for a great party trick!

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

HBKelsey!

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

HAPPY BIRFDAY KELSEY!
29 is a decent year, albeit an overtly yucky prime number, but remember: when you complete your 29th year you are actually beginning your 30th. So you're on day one of your 30th year, starting...NOW.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

All things considered, I'd rather be 24 again. That was a good fucking year.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Disagree.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm with you, jordan.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

(ymmv)

And just for the record, 28 has been not-so-great (getting to know you fine folks better aside).

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

jesus you guys are old

― grbchv! (gbx), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

IT"LL HAPPEN TO YOU

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

how do you all feel about 26? I'm expecting good things.

― grbchv! (gbx), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

25 was pretty good, 24 was meh, really, 23 was A+++

― grbchv! (gbx), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

i had my quarter century crisis at 26.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I was not crazy about 24. In retrospect, 30-anything has been much better than 20-anything.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

26 was decent. Did a lot of snowshoeing and rode some good trails with my bros that year. Had a few dalliances with teh ladiez. Work sucked, but then I quit and moved to Chicago!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

also: i wish amanda had warned me earlier that i'd be 30 at 29. i would've treated last year with the reckless abandon of someone in their late 20s.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry! You've not yet completed your 30th year, so you don't have your 30-badge yet, but you are experiencing the tender buds of your 30s right now.

I am vastly happier at 31 than I was at 21. I was a reckless, shiftless, aimless person at 21. Now I feel a little bit calmer and a lot happier. Less like jumping around all the time, but more content. I like the 30s.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Sometimes I can't believe that on 09/06/07, I will be 30 and married. IT'S CRAZY! And yet... not so crazy. It will be a lot like now with just a few minor adjustments.

I'm feeling a lot more sick now, so Nick is going to pick me up early. Sadly though, he's coming all the way from Evanston. Owww!

― Calico (calico), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

if i could wake up tomorrow and be 27 but have to die at 33 i'd take that in a heart beat.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

That Owwww! was in response to belly pains.

Huh. I wouldn't. What happened when you were 27? Whenever I fantasize about going back to an earlier point in my life, I only imagine it happening with me knowing what I know now. Otherwise, I really don't feel a need to relive it.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

For someone who's as obsessive about dates as I am, I have difficulty distinguishing one year from the next in terms of quality. Each year has its ups and downs.

Also, are you guys able to remember what it was like "at age 24" without calculating what year it was? I have no idea what I did when I was 24, but if you remind me that it was 2003, everything comes into focus.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

same deal with me, it's all kind of a blur between 20 and 25 then 25 to 27 then 27 to 31 then 31 to today. i'm not very good at remembering exact dates but if you give me a year i think i'm a little sharper.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

What happened when you were 27?

happy, moderately successful, plenty of discretionary cash, madly in love, moved to chicago, body was still able to take a pounding and bounce back.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

No, I associate feelings a lot more with ages than I do with years. It would take some serious cross-referencing to figure out exactly what I was doing in 2002.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

That's so weird.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, I never think about the fact that I'm 27, but I think about how it's 2006 all the time. What happened when I was 24? Dunno. But 2002? Oh yeah, that's when the band started, we played that Belle & Sebastian cover-song show at Schubas in June, TAG also started, Mark was in Vienna and Kelsey was in Portland, Maine, for the first few months of the year, I stayed in his room and learned how to fingerpick and read John Cheever and listened to Kings of Convenience, I read Updike's Rabbit trilogy that summer and drank a 6-pack of Schlitz by myself while reading a Gail Gr1ff1n book I ordered from Amazon and went to NYC with my family for Christmas/New Year's and saw The 25th Hour, which was my favorite of the year, and back in the winter I saw Bosco & Jorge at the California Clipper for a few Sundays in a row with Nicolas and Hstencil and met this Canadian girl named BJ M00re who asked me if I wanted to see Neal Pollack at the Hideout with her, and I was too dumb to realize she was asking me out.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

when I was _____

it was a very good year

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, that makes me feel like I have no memory/recall. It would take a lot of association to come up with so many specific scenes like that.

BJ M00re

But this I would have remembered.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Like, if somebody mentioned a specific gig, I could probably remember the songs we played and the jokes people made etc. etc. But with a range of time like, uh, "last year" I have a hard time grouping things together and remember, y'know?

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i've been giving myself a little self-test and have come to the conclusion that i can't remember when anything ever happened. the best i can do is verify that something did or did not happen. usually i can further narrow that down to "that was in my 20s" or "that was in my 30s" but it's kind of hinky for 29-30.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

my_life.xls


most of my memories are pretty vague w/r/t the actual, REAL date in question. like, i remember chasing a coyote with my car through downtown aspen at two in the morning, stoned and sorta drunk, in the middle of a snowstorm, plowing through snowbanks and whatever, but my reference frame is "the winter after I graduated college," not Feb(?). 04, you know?

also, i'm still trapped in a student/ski bum mentality, where my "years" are actually from fall to fall, not jan 1 to dec. 31.

― grbchv! (gbx), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm with you, John. Today at lunch my coworkers were all talking about the parties they had for their Sweet 16, but I had to think about it in terms of what year it was, where I was in school...

― Calico (calico), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

also, i'm still trapped in a student/ski bum mentality, where my "years" are actually from fall to fall, not jan 1 to dec. 31.

Still slowly working my way out of that, myself.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, I'm trying to write a general intro to software testing for work, and I tried to find ideas online and came up with this:

In other words, you can consider an example as: suppose you are a good cook and are expecting some guests at dinner. You start making dinner; you make few very very very delicious dishes (off-course, those which you already know how to make). And finally, when you are about to finish making the dishes, you ask someone (or you yourself) to check if everything is fine and there is no extra salt/chili/anything, which if is not in balance, can ruin your evening (This is what called 'TESTING').

This procedure you follow in order to make it sure that you do not serve your guests something that is not tasty! Otherwise your collar will go down and you will regret over your failure!

2. Why we go for testing?

Well, while making food, its ok to have something extra, people might understand and eat the things you made and may well appreciate your work. But this isn't the case with Software Project Development. If you fail to deliver a reliable, good and problem free software solution, you fail in your project and probably you may loose your client. This can get even worse!

You don't want your collar to go down WTF

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

That sounds vaguely Japanese.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Indian.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Ahhh. It was the "you will regret over your failure" part that made me think that.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

wow. 2002 i was in portland. crazy.
then i guess i remember that year in shifts. everything was shifting. i quit my job to go to school in portland. i was feeling resentful toward the person i was dating & knew it would end but i just didn't want to realize it quite yet. knowing what i know now, i think i would've broken things off before i ever left for portland but whatever. my friendship with john grew back into a comfortable place, my friendship with emily was at its strongest (& has since fallen back). when i came back from portland everything happened very quickly. relationship ended, i started to crave living alone, my internship with TAL started. then the 'slut phase' of my life took off for a while.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

PORTLAND!! MARK'S SHOWPLACE!!!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I keep trying to have a "slut phase" but it never seems to work.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

2x

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I know, right?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Try dudes.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

No dudes hit on me at the gay bars this weekend, it wz kinda depressing.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i wouldn't want anything to do with a slut anymore, nor would i care to be one.


i'm beyond old and veering towards decrepit now.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i could handle a slut-phase.

― grbchv! (gbx), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Honestly, the slut phase is one of the main reasons I remember my 20's so unfondly.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

"there's strings attached to every single lover"
-The Hold Steady

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

For reals.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

(see also: i am not discussing my slut phase on the internet)

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

haha

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Ya srsly.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

as soon as i mentioned it i had second thoughts. there will be no further details.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, it's best to leave the details to the mind's of the chilx denizens. that's a much safer route.


― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah sorry, I didn't mean to make anyone uncomfortable... honestly I don't really need such a phase and find it pretty seamy and pointless, which is probably why I have failed so many times at acting that way.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Sweetheart, stop while you're behind: you've just suggested that everyone else's slut phases were "seamy and pointless". :D

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

honestly, though, laurel -- what was the point?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I am going to change the topic now. I went to a clothing swap last night and scored this sweet pair of boots -- they're sort of like Mondrian boots, but instead of having white and red and black, they're just red and black. So cute. I also got some other stuff. It's like Christmas came early and I have whole new wardrobe!
http://www.cetteadressecomportecinquantesignes.com/Mondrian_fichiers/image004.jpg
It's good, because I was starting to feel really goddamn frumpy. My (1) grey hair made another unwelcome appearance.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm okay with the fact that i had the phase, but i also would be perfectly content & happy without it too.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/101803/quality-assurance.gif

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

slut phases, seamy or steamy?

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

both, of course

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

What was the point of the phase, or of needling Dan? Specific examples are best, Kenan!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

of the phase, i mean. I got out of it a bad taste in my mouth.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I sure do love these new boots.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

They look like they lack traction?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

heh.

take a picture of them, amanda?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

They're for looking cute, not for climbing mountains.

+fashion
-traction

I would take a photo if I had the camera. D has it and he is in an airplane right now.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, that response reminds me of something my ex would say. Right before she slipped and fell on ber butt.

They do look v. nice. I wish I was of a somewhat normal size and could do things like clothing swaps or shopping at resale stores.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I dunno. I'm not much of a long-term dater, so most of my opposite-sex anything has been in a couple of those phases.

LOVE THE BOOTS!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

that does not sound healthy. the phases, not the boots. although the boots also sound a little treacherous this time of year.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

watch me talk about what's "healthy," and feel free to crack up laughing.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway, you can have rubber soles laid on those boots at a shoe place!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I retract my "no traction" comment.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, lots of womens' shoes don't have giant, ugly lug soles -- not a big deal. Don't wear them in the snow. Don't run on the ice. I am not wearing them today, but I could, since all of the snow is melted, practically.

I'm off to work, dudes. It's been a pleasure.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

then they wouldn't look as cute

xp to laurel

― grbchv! (gbx), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

You can't even see them, it's less than 1/8" thick. Just a thin layer of grooved rubber, like...I can't think of a non-shoe comparison. They cut it to the outline of the sole and glue it on tightly. Good for ages.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

something for which i have ilx to thank/blame: i now make snap judgements on women based solely on their boots. i learned at a young age to compliment a woman on her shoes but i find myself making silent but permanent judgements based on their boots now.

i wasn't always this way.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw a girl wearing purple-tinged Uggs (or similar) this morning, and totall snap-judged the shit out of her.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh boy, special Xmas bonus from work! UofC Pr355 LUGGAGE TAG! Truly this makes my past year's labor worthwhile.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

wow, dan. that will bring in the big bucks on ebay, right?

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

it doesn't even need to be something as obvious as uggs dan, i find myself quietly commenting to myself and giving them the mental equivelant of the roman emperor's thumbs up/thumbs down to gladiators in the arena.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

wow. dudes, that was some heavy Chicago talk today.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 11 December 2006 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

of the phase, i mean. I got out of it a bad taste in my mouth.

You were clearing doing something wrong, but I hesitate to ponder on exactly what.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 11 December 2006 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a story to tell:

My cell phone battery went totally kaput this morning and I went to US Cellular to get a new one and this punk ass kid behind the counter said they'd have to order one and it would take TWO WEEKS! I said UNACCEPTABLE plz expedite and he said nowai can't do it and I said let me talk to a manager and the kid gave me some gruff and I said, "Listen, you've been very helpful so far, but the more reluctant you are to let me speak with a manager the more likely I am to speak poorly of you" so out came the manager. He called another store that was THREE measely blocks away and they had the battery right there in stock so I stopped there on the way back to school and got a new battery for free right away and now my phone works.

I also went to the Christkindlmarket and got some sweet cheese pancakes and applesauce on a total whim, which is possibly the best idea I've had in weeks.

So the moral of the story is: ask for a manager and never pass up a chance for sweet cheese pancakes.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Monday, 11 December 2006 23:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay, I don't have to work tomorrow. (Because we are playing that show with $INDIEROCKLEGEND in Milwaukee.) The ability to sleep in is quite welcome, since I seem to be coming down with a cold.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 23:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, that's in Milwaukee? Where at?

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 11 December 2006 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link

That reminds me, I need to ask for next Friday off. I have a show with the rock band the night before, and then I'm driving to Chicago in the afternoon for the GM shows. Sleep will be key.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 11 December 2006 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link

NEW GLASSES GET

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 00:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd post a pic, but they look pretty much the same 'cept smaller and less silvery. Also I am not v. photogenic at the moment.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 00:36 (seventeen years ago) link

nice bike person (who i only know tangentially) just got nailed at halsted/grand/milwaukee


keep it safe out there, ppl!

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 00:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Is the rider still alive? I passed a ghost bike on Houston the other day, obviously incredibly sad.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link

JENNY WAI TO B POWERHOUSE. Am taking you on next customer-dispute resolution trip.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link

still alive, as far as I know

(getting reports from friends back in Chi...)


and yeah, ghost bikes are the saddest. but that's why they need to exist

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Evan! I hope your friend is okay. It's a very wet and dangerous day out there.

What is a ghost bike?

I came in here to post this for word nerdz b/c of our conversation on gender determinism the other day: http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/003894.html

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 01:27 (seventeen years ago) link

The US Cellular manager was very good at his job. He came out, shook my hand, introduced himself... basically came out of the box treating me in way that conveyed, "We are adults and we will do business here today." Not patronizing or obsequious or irritated at all. His name was Kirk and I was impressed.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 01:30 (seventeen years ago) link

It's an old bike, painted all white and locked to an immoveable object at a spot where a cyclist has been killed in a bike accident, and left there presumably forever. Sometimes they're children's bikes (more common in Queens & residential areas), more often adults. I've never heard of the city or anyone going around and cutting them loose (which quite frankly surprises me) but maybe I just haven't been talking to the right people.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 01:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh wow. That's kind of intense.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, the one on Houston had silk flowers wrapped around the crank & pedals like someone had been there recently. It's a lot of intense.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 01:35 (seventeen years ago) link

there's one right outside the empty bottle (or there was). really nice hispanic dude that built his own choppers was on his way home and got hit by a drunk

i'm surprised the city doesn't clip them, either.

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 01:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I wonder what it says about me that I find ghost bikes sad and lovely and respectful but am just irritated by plastic flower crosses on rural roadsides.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 01:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't know!


the road up to where i "work" is absolutely littered with roadside crosses.


maybe it's because roadside crosses can often be the result of yr own bad driving, while ghost bikes are generally the result of jerkoff drivers killing cyclists. AND they reflect the personality of the person who died, because it's actually their old bike that gets locked up.

also, religious v. secular?

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link

but yeah, ghost bikes are genuinely moving for me.

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link

The saddest thing about ghost bikes, for me, is that they were all killed in auto accidents -- an unfair fight from the get-go. Of course roadside crosses can equally be the result of an innocent trip to the grocery store and being hit by drunk driver, and I know this rationally, but bikes being the big-time underdogs makes the warning/memory different.

Or what he said! I didn't know it was the victim's own bike, though.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Me, neither! That's super intense.

But you know, could be the person's own plastic flower cross, too.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 01:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, that's in Milwaukee? Where at?

Shank Hall.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 06:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I came in here to post this for word nerdz b/c of our conversation on gender determinism the other day:

My mom to thread.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 06:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Also this book to thread:

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/0345372050.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.gif

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 06:43 (seventeen years ago) link

jesus! the size of this thread!

― Ste (fuzzy), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 11:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I have made a rare login from work to say that tofu is making us gay.

― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 12:45 (seventeen years ago) link

What is a ghost bike?

there's one outside the empty bottle from when a dude named esai got hit last january. it was so loud i heard the impact at my old place on augusta. in a sad bit of irony the ghost bike itself got hit by a drunk driver, the same fate that befell it's owner.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

there's one right outside the empty bottle (or there was). really nice hispanic dude that built his own choppers was on his way home and got hit by a drunk

i suppose i should read all the way through the threads before responding.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, and there's also a wooden cross with a rim attached to it outside the laundromat down the block which is where the guy died. the drunk was going about 80 mph down western ave when he blew the red light at augusta, swerved to miss traffic, hit a row of parked cars then plowed into esai at cortez. the force of the impact threw him almost half a block down to western and thomas.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I have made a rare login from work to say that tofu is making us gay.

I guess that's why I'm so incredibly straight!

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

fudge, in addition to losing my chicago card it would appear i also lost the slip of paper with my i-go member and pin # on it. no grocery shopping for me tonight.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

For example, if your baby gets colic from cow's milk, do you switch him to soy milk? Don't even think about it. His phytoestrogen level will jump to 20 times normal. If he is a she, brace yourself for watching her reach menarche as young as seven, robbing her of years of childhood. If he is a boy, it's far worse: He may not reach puberty till much later than normal.

Soy could have horrible consequences for little girls BUT EVEN WORSE it could have horrible consequences for little boys.

Won't somebody please think of the little boy children?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe it's also that LATE puberty is worse than early? Wouldn't surprise me if there's an important growth spurt for boys around then, too, and they might never make that height up. Not that I disagree with you or anything....

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I think getting my period at seven would be pretty severe.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I...guess? I think I was 10.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm still waiting.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm not up on all the facts though.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Are You There God? It's Me, Otto.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Dammit should have changed my login there

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

it turns out i was in fact smart enough to put my member # and pin in my work email's contacts. you can all stop worrying and get back to work, i'm sure you've been shivering with anticipation over what was to become of my i-go situation.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

That was brilliant. Groceries ahoy!

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I suppose I'd give that author more (any, really) credit for anything he said if he, you know, supported his claims with studies. Or even links to other articles.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

BUT THAT WOULD BE SO MUCH MORE WORK!!!!

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

JENNY U R GAY FOR TOFU JUST ACCEPT IT

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

So does soy actually effect estrogen levels, or is this total bullshit?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

it does kenan that's why soy products are so popular with menopausal women. it's safer than mare urine.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

If soy makes you more feminine, what about bovine growth hormone, out there making 15 year old girls look more and more like R Kelly bait all the time? Surely this masculine man would never advise us not to eat delicious American red meat.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, there was zero soy in my diet when I was growing up, and I turned out plenty faggy.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Isn't at least one kind of hormone replacement therapy for post-menopausal women made from soy? I think there's something to it, although on the other hand people all over the world have been eating soy protein in place of meat for centuries and they're probably better off than those of us eating antibiotic/hormone-stuffed processed meats...so who knows?

Haha, XP!

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

CAR RESERVED. and it's the one that's closest to my place, AND for the first time since i've been using the service all of the cars in wicker park were available when i needed one. available all day from noon on in fact.


― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Yupsters be walkin'

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i dunno guys, what about asian lady boys? they eat soy all the time*!


*....so do i. eep!

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

they eat soy all the time*!

*....so do i. eep!


i will now dust off this nugget of a school yard taunt that i haven't used since 6th grade. *ahem*, EVAN PEES SITTING DOWN.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

This abstract says soy does increase estrogen. But then this article says it doesn't.

It's probably one of those things that is good for you if you eat it in moderation but bad for you when it becomes processed as filler into every nook and cranny of the American diet.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

those japanese ppl r gay.

soy does effect hormone levels--originally it was touted as miracle food for regulating hormones, and now they've found that it's not so great as they thought, though sometimes beneficial.

from an fda bit on soy:

The recently raised concerns, however, focus on specific components of soy, such as the soy isoflavones daidzein and genistein, not the whole food or intact soy protein. These chemicals, available over the counter in pills and powders, are often advertised as dietary supplements for use by women to help lessen menopausal symptoms such as hot flashes.

The problem, researchers say, is that isoflavones are phytoestrogens, a weak form of estrogen that could have a drug-like effect in the body. This may be pronounced in postmenopausal women, and some studies suggest that high isoflavone levels might increase the risk of cancer, particularly breast cancer. Research data, however, are far from conclusive, and some studies show just the opposite--that under some conditions, soy may help prevent breast cancer. It is this scientific conundrum, where evidence simultaneously points to benefits and possible risks, that is causing some researchers to urge caution.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

fuck irrational deadlines.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess i have about 1-2 pounds a week. when should i expect to start filling out?

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't understand why, at home, every man doesn't pee sitting down. It's more comfortable and, more importantly, less likely to result in PEEING ALL OVER THE PLACE. And you can say that you have good aim and that you're careful but you know what? When you aim a hose at a bucket of water from a distance, some of it is going to splash out no matter how careful you are. And that's disgusting.

xpost - Julia rocks.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

You're just mad because you don't have a penis.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

if i go to target tonight am i going to want to kill myself after being in there for five minutes? i need to get some things (more shelves, a heater, a blanket, probably some xmas gifts) and if i have the car i can hit target on western & diversey then hit jewel or dominic's on western & addison.

huh, i guess i should've reserved the car at milwaukee and western instead.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I pee sitting down out of sheer laziness sometimes.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Shut up, Kenan Freud.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

don't understand why, at home, every man doesn't pee sitting down.

i will do this if drunk or hung over. i used to keep a toss pillow in the bathroom closet of my place on augusta so i could put my head against the sink and pass out on the can.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

there's an image.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, that's hilarious, otto.

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

TS: "toss pillow" vs. "throw pillow"

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Neither. Why would anyone need so many pillows?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm for throw everything. Anything in your home should be easily thrown.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

a throw pillow is for decor. a toss pillow is for tossing.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

you shouldn't throw anything indoors you fucking heathens.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

What if you're playing indoor bocci?

(nb this is played using those light-up rubber koosh dingii)

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

hey, i'm booking a flight and i forget, is it allegedly safer to have your seat in the cabin in front of the wing or behind the wing? not that i'd have much faith in surviving a plane crash anyway but still i'm sure if there was one and everyone died on board but one person, i would be that person. my clean living of a christian life tells me so.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Select your seat for comfort, not survival.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

they're all the same, my choice is in front of the wing or behind. i usually prefer in front so i don't have to hear the engines. but the last few times i've sat on the wing hoping to have one of those twilight zone freak outs where i see a monster on the wing.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

fuck it, i'll take the default seating, 14c going down, 13c coming back.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, were there more people on the Lost island from the front of the plane or the back of the plane?

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

The front, even before the Others got the Tailies.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, plus i figure if the plane splits in half at least the front half will be moving away from the fuel.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

In front of wing: supposedly more smooth/comfortable
Behind wint/in tail: supposedly more safe, bumpier ride

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

wint=wing

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I like to sit in an exit row because there's a little more leg room. I have no idea how you tall motherfuckers can deal with it. My knees are throbbing by the time I'm done flying.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

how this tall motherfucker deals with it, i get cramps in my back because i have to sit with my legs going diagonally as my femurs are freakishly long.

i changed it to 6c going down and 5c coming back just so i can get off the goddamn plane quicker. i won't be checking any bags so i just want to bolt.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, and yes, i prefer exit rows too but they weren't available.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't like sitting in exit rows, but that's where my paranoia ends. I like to sit in front so that I can get off the plane sooner, but I always forget to do online check-in so I usually end up in the way back.

xpost

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Exit rows are the f'n king. Aisle after that, but watch out for my shoulders. The upper body thing for me is actually worse than the lack of knee-room.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm all leg so i need the space. now i'm pricelining one-star hotels.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

window seats > aisle seats > middle seats

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

wrong

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost I was once like you! Now I must go without the pleasure of looking out the windows :(

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

i prefer the window, because if i nod off i can position myself to fall towards the window. if i'm on the aisle i'm either going to pass out (and likely drool) on the person sitting next to me or have my giant canetloupe head blocking the aisle and likely getting whacked by the beverage cart.

the cart got my knee the last time i was on an aisle. never ever again.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

wtf, priceline has a hotel i stayed at before listed as a one-star whereas orbitz has it listed as three. PRICELINE IS TELLING THE TRUTH. although the hotel appears to have a new name.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't like my ability to go to the bathroom to be limited by other jerks

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

My elbows always hurt after flying, too. I'm just all aching creaking joints by the time I get off the plane.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the window because then I don't have to deal with people on at least one side.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Window is good for sleeping against! And once I was seated between two fattish (well, middle-aged sales types who were pudgy and florid-faced) who ended up talking to each other ACROSS ME for most of the flight and leaning into my knees and stuff until I offered to move. They never excused themselves for the leaning or crowding me, NEVERMIND the sales talk. Grump grump.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

only thing you have to watch out for with sleeping against the window is bell's palsy. the vibrations from the plane tranfer through the glass to your facial nerves and can paralyze them. happened to ralph nader!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

jenny, how much longer 'til you're done school?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm too retarded to answer that difficult question.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

omg you did not just mention bell's palsy. it happened to my aunt and i lived in FEAR OF IT for the first 18-20 years of my life. my mom told me that i was NEVER EVER to go to sleep with wet hair while a fan was blowing cold air on my face or else i would wake up with a half-paralyzed face like aunt betsy.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Also I answered that difficult question on the DC thread, but the answer is: December 19th.

How did Aunt Betsy get Bell's palsy?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

From going to sleep with wet hair while a fan blew cold air on her face! Also truckers sometimes get it when they drive with the window open. Or so my mom said.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

that sounds like an old wive's tale!

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course I'm googling it now . . .
I love that the Mayo Clinic says that it can "be a blow to your self-esteem" . . .
"The condition may result in a droopy appearance of your face. This can be a blow to your self-esteem, but most often Bell's palsy isn't serious."

They also claim that most cases clear up within weeks or months for most people. Is Aunt Betsy's still active?

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i know. but i believed it all the way. i know for sure that aunt betsy had a partially paralyzed face for a good 6 weeks or so. i guess in a way i still believe it, just to be safe. who wants a partially (or entirely?) paralyzed face?

aunt betsy has been fine for many, many years -- way longer than i've been alive, but her legacy remains. avoid bell's palsy at all costs!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i googled it too, and it looks like it's idiopathic, meaning they don't know the cause. a friend of mine in high school had it, but it wasn't that noticeable at all.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

bell's palsy: worse than boogeyman because it's REAL

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

omg pwned by finals

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

one site i read said that it's possibly linked to a virus, one of which could possibly be herpes simplex. so the cold sore on yr lip could lead to (gasp!) bell's palsy!

think bells brewery would ever come up with a 'bell's palsy brew'?

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh no, Evan! Did you just take one or are you being pwned by the study process?

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

study process. barfcity. t-minus 4 hours until i'm pwned by the actual test itself.

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

OTM re: barfcity on the studying but you won't be pwned! You'll do good. You're going to RUIN THAT EXAM'S DAY.

In ten minutes I'm leaving work, taking house keys to the cat sitter, and then it's home to my own barfcity study time. I am in cross-country solidarity with you!

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

http://schools.katyisd.org/groups/speced/Clip%20Art_pictures/holding%20hands.jpg

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.nataliedee.com/012303/solidarity.jpg

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

...am i the little bunny creature?

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

must've been the tempeh i had for dinner last night.

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

You can be whichever you want but you're cute like a bunny so it would fit.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

A wee, pink bunny.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

for the record jenny is not retarded.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Speaking of retarded, that "tofu makes you gay" ding dong said that tempeh doesn't have the fagola compound. Only raw tofu has it. So yr cool, Evan.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, tempeh does make you bi-curious though.

― otto midnight, that "tofu makes you gay" ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Miso soup makes you grow a third boob.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I know. [hides face in shame]

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

using soy milk with coffe turns you into a compulsive masturbator.

― otto midnight that "tofu makes you gay" ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

boca burgers make you gay AND impotent

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

soy ice cream leads to a tendency towards scat.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:dyEEtinb5hm_VM:http://www.avatarist.com/avatars/Cartoons/The-Simpsons/Blinky-the-Three-Eyed-Fish.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

using soy milk with coffe turns you into a compulsive masturbator.

I've got to go and... um... get some coffee.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Bulgar wheat leads to porn.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

i have had TWO cups of coffee today.

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

careful, don't want to get that shit raw

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.activewin.com/reviews/xbox/software/2002/wwf_raw/raw_box.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

wow I bet that game blows

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't know if someone's been dosing me with soy or what but from the time i first read that awesometacular shoe thread until now i have abandoned what i was supposed to be doing in favor of looking for shoes.

i hope i remembered to tivo "the view".

― otto midnight that "tofu makes you gay" ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

i have been enjoying my new boots. wearing them today.
i am crazy bored and feeling overwhelmed with nerves for some reason.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i am crazy tired, a couple of nights with less than optimal amounts of sleep after a mostly sleepless weekend have finally caught up to me. my patience for shopping at target is gonna be pretty damn thin. but after that i will go to the grocery store and i will buy hummus and everything will be ok.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Mands! What are you wearing them with? I wish I could see. :(

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

so... what are you wearing.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

hey will someone remind me how to make that mexican chicken soup that was on some thread somewhere? i know it's easy, but i can't remember what's in it.

i am wearing jeans, red/black mod boots, stretchy red long sleeve shirt with black short sleeve cashmere t-shirt sweater over it for modesty. also black belt with large silver buckle that i have been wearing since 1990. AND i washed my hair so even my hair looks ok. i feel alright about myself today.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I love you today, plus you're wearing my colors! I wear red/white/black about three days a week.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

this outfit would look 75% better if i had slim-cut white pants on. i love you everyday laurel. tofu has made me gay.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

New glasses gettin' compliments, makes me feel alright about myself too!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

...now will one of you gaywads tell me how to make that soup?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i was told "wow, you don't look so good. are you sick?"


NO, THIS IS JUST WHAT I LOOK LIKE ALRIGHT?
fuck, i've only worked with you for 7 months, you ought to be used to it by now.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

amanda, i don't know how to make that soup but i know you put a lot of soy in it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Amanda, you could even WEAR white cigarette pants, you are Legs Malone!

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

If I can't be Busty Russell, I might as well be Legs Malone.

I think the ingredients include
chicken
broth
onion
cumin
chili powder
sweet potatoes
???

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

tacos?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Stupid Google cache. Waht was name of last real-ILX Chicago thread?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

sweater weather?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I will totally throw some tacos in there, thank you.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

amanda's gay for tacos.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I really am. I think tacos are one of my favorite foods. I really really really love tacos. Last time I made them I ate 5.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i feel the same way.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Can. Not. Make. Google. Cache. WORK. TODAY.

Anger growing, desire to find soup recipe falling... sorry.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Plz do not do a GIS on "pink taco" without safesearch turned on. I was going for a joke, and instead I got gash.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Keep using words like "gash" and you're going to get a knuckle sandwich.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

for reals

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

however, sheep's testicles are less disgusting than american hamburger is, as described in the book that julia was reading in august.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I have read that they are v. good indeed. ANTHONY BOURDAIN STRIKES AGAIN.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi. This is Sarah. In case anyone CARES, I'm home with the FLU. I feel craptastic. Thankfully, Nick just got home from work so he went and got me a movie and poured me some more gingerale.

What did I miss? Let's see...

The boots sound way cute. OMG what am I going to wear Thursday? I have my xmas party in the early afternoon and then Nick's office party that night.

I always get a window seat, preferably one right behind an exit row where there's lots of extra leg room. Whenever I get tix, I pull up the diagram of the plane to see the available seats and which ones have more leg room.

I never had a slut phase. I was going to start one around the time I met Nick, but look what happened!

Ok, back to being miserable.

― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

gas face to the motherfuckin' flu

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, Sarah! I hope you feel better sweets.

Amanda - was it the slow cooker sweet potato and chicken stew or was it the Puerto Rican chickan and rice soup?

Oh man Cesar Milan is totally schooling a vet on how to deal with dogs. Jutzpah!

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

In Puerto Rico, they are called "chickans."

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

however, sheep's testicles are less disgusting than american hamburger is, as described in the book that julia was reading in august.

it seems that we could start a new chicago thread...

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I will take whatever chickan soup recipe you think is the tastiest. I think it was the crockpot chickan-n-yam though. is it zesty?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Aye. I'll post it to the blog. Both of them.

OMG there are these adamndorable little poofy poodle/chi mix doggies on Dog Whisperer that BATTLE like fucking pit bulls and I know it's terrible but they are hilarious when they fight!

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

chi's are insanely protective and fearless dogs, they have no sense of relative size. when we lived on the west side linus used to go ape shit at any of the numerous rotweillers in our 'hood.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

These three little poofs are battling each other. It's like watching stuffed animals come alive and start attacking each other.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm jealous.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Amanda, I posted the chicken and rice soup recipe, but I can't find the stew recipe. I think it went like this.

Put all this in a crock pot: Pound of boneless skinless chicken breasts or thighs, cut into stew-sized chunks, two medium peeled and cubed sweet potatoes, one chopped onion, a can of diced tomatoes, frozen corn... Maybe something else but I can't remember. The spices were salt, pepper, cumin, chili powder, nutmeg and I added a dash of pumpkin pie spice b/c we were out of cinnamon.

I'm not sure how right that is, but I'm sure you get the idea and can take it from there.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

awesome, that's what i thought it was. i think i might add some chipotle powder (or pepper?) for smoky goodness. thankee.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

That sounds like a nice addition. Sweet potatoes and chipotles are good together. Witness:

Peel and cube some sweet potatoes and cook (steaming is recommended, I understand) until soft. Mash with one diced chipotle pepper (canned in adobo) and butter and a little sour cream and salt.

Amazing.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

if you could use some exotic booze theres a bar in far bombay...


i could really go for a stiff drink right now.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

2x, today has been brutal

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm fighting off a cold so I'm going to have a greyhound with my chicken wings tonight.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

test in t-minus 15.


let's do this thing!

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

ps - if someone can tell me how to annotate the genome of both eukaryotes and prokaryotes in 50 words or less, i'd really really appreciate it.

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

also, alternative transcription lol

― grbchv! (gbx), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I just looked in my spam folder and I have email from:

Humiliating E. Gaiter
Phosphorus E. Handymen
Handgun O. Mendocino
Rectory L. Mentor
Hassle H. Malignants

There is also a new twist on the Nigerian bank account spam that comes from Captain Scott Morgan (US Marine Force) and invites me to help him deal with $10.2 million he found in a box in Iraq.

― Lance Rock (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Good luck, Evan!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks! it wasn't that bad.

― grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 01:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay Evan! Here's hoping my Friday exam is not that bad, either.

Meanwhile:

http://static.flickr.com/138/318872980_04dcdd559f.jpg?v=0

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 01:40 (seventeen years ago) link

That reminds me of Julia.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 01:40 (seventeen years ago) link

wait, kittens are too weak to lift up pitchax---oh, i see what you did there

― grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 01:46 (seventeen years ago) link

hi. i'm home late.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 01:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i often get that kitten-with-pickax comparison.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 02:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's your pointy ears and whiskers. And that pick ax you always carry around.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 02:28 (seventeen years ago) link

bye. i'm going to bed.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 02:48 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.kontraband.com/show/show.asp?ID=4535&rtn=index-topten&nsfwfs=yes

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 02:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Colbert + John Zorn, now this is some funny shit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLPdrXMZTks

Hip-hopketball: A Jazzebration!!!!

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 05:41 (seventeen years ago) link

jenny -- that's not real, is it?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 11:24 (seventeen years ago) link

the corpse book is getting to me. i just had elaborate dreams about rotting corpses. of course, they were underwater, and there were also pirates, and leo dicaprio was in love with a badly decomposed dead girl, so it wasn't a total loss.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 11:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i smell movie rights!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 11:37 (seventeen years ago) link

of course, the reviews said that after the gripping opening scenes, the story settled into a lame Treasure Island rehash. Yes, my dream included reviews.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 11:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i bought a space heater last night. takes a while to heat up but it was nice sitting on the couch last night and not shivering. when i came in from my last cigarette of the night around midnight i could FEEL ACTUAL HEAT WITHIN MY APARTMENT!!! you have no idea how happy that made me.

i also went to the dominick's in roscoe village because i was up that way and i was totally underwhelmed by the place. nothing was in stock and there were only two checkout lanes open at 7 p.m. that is unacceptable. so despite spending almost $150 at the grocery store i still have to stop by the jewel near the division el stop after work today. but i need to get some nails to hang my x-mas lights so i'll go to the kmart that's over there too. and i need drano. and beer. i should be writing this down instead of typing it here.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 14:54 (seventeen years ago) link

HOORAY HEAT.

I have slept for my second straight night without having to kick off the covers. We're all reaching some kind of equilibrium.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

add interpunk.com to the list of blocked websites at work. so for those keeping score or just can't seem to get away from my incessant blathering about this, we're up to flickr, youtube, interpunk, goner, shit sandwich, and itunes. that i've noticed, i'm sure there are others.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

how do they determine what to block? because if they were monitoring traffic, seems like ilx would have been blocked a long time ago.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i got an email from a student last night addressed, "dear sir"

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

how polite.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

From a paper on children's television programming:

"...unlike older shows, that were made just to help teach kids life's lesions."

[a native speaker, btw -- a good kid with a startlingly bad work ethic.]

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

kenan, i'm not sure what the creteria is. for instance, the arts & entertainment section of the boston globe is blocked but the business section is not. flickr is blocked but photobucket isn't. certain parts of espn are blocked seemingly without rhyme or reason. almost everyplace with the word "record" in the url is blocked.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

One of the girls in the office just came in expressing frustration over having tried to help her nephew, who's in 6th grade, with a homework assignment. The assignment was to go online and find a picture of a can of avocado green paint with the price listed next to it. I can guess what the teacher was thinking, I suppose -- something like one of those Wal Mart ads in the Sunday ad supplement. But nothing like that exists online. Nor would it. First of all, why would anyone buy paint online? And secondly, assuming you were going to buy paint online, why would you insist on seeing a picture of the frickin' can? And I had a sudden flashback to every stupid homework assignment I ever had.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

sounds like the teacher is redecorating her house and wants the kids to do the leg work on the comparison shopping.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

That sounds like an important life lesion.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.marions-kochbuch.de/index-bilder/avocado.jpghttp://www.karensscrappin.com.au/resources/images/stories/Paint%20can%201.jpg

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

goddamn it, add music direct to the list of blocked sites. i'm trying to buy a zerostat gun as an xmas gift but have had bad luck with lp gear in the past. so now i have to spend more time looking for this thing. IF THE SITES WEREN'T BLOCKED I COULD GET BACK TO WORK A LOT F'ING FASTER.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

yay for Kevin getting heat!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

..."Baney taught show shave kids buying there fun."

this paper reads like spam.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

You shouldn't be shaving kids.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Tell that to Baney.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i've read that sentence 15 times and it's made me dizzy each time.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

That sounds like an important life lesion.

lolz

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

A friend just txted me that one of his students said she wants to shoot him and never see him again. She's autistic though, so I don't think he has too much to worry about (at least as far as getting shot).

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Yikes Jordan.

Hi, guys. It's Sarah.

I'm glad for your heat, Kevin. I don't understand the website blocking. Is there just one person in charge of picking out websites to block all day? Do your coworkers ever complain about it?

I feel totally out of it today, but at least I don't feel as much pain. Also, I threw on some clothes to do some laundry downstairs and I just realized how totally awesome I must look. Consider:
* tennis shoes, no socks (but with orthodix!!)
* black slip, hanging out over
* pink gym pants
* covered on top by green t-shirt
= AWESOME

Now it's back to playing Sudoku on the couch and moaning whenever one of the kitties breaks something.

― n/a (n/a), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Lucky you.

Hi.

We played a show in Milwaukee last night. It was the worst monitor mix I've ever heard. Actually, the balance was fine. But dude did not know how to deal with my keyboard -- there was no low end whatsover. High notes were screechy and loud, low ones were completely inaudible. Makes me wonder if I should get an amp instead of going direct. Other than that, show was okay. Got home at 2 AM and am exhausted today.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

John, was INDIEROCK$T*R worth seeing?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

For someone that's never really given a fuck about him in the past, I was pretty impressed. He has a cool voice: he strains for high notes, but it doesn't weaken the tone at all, it just gives it more character. Good backing band, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course, I was also playing Tetris on my cell phone and reading The Rules of Attraction for much of the time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

(Still Sarah) How is Rules of Attraction going? Also, could you tell the keyboards sounded off on stage or did someone out in the audience tell you that later?

― n/a (n/a), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

For someone that's never really given a fuck about him in the past

Not an SDR3 fan, eh? Guess I'm not too surprised.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I like "Seven" a lot, which a friend put on a mixtape for me in high school, but I've never really investigated further. (I didn't mean for that to sound negative at all.)

Also, could you tell the keyboards sounded off on stage or did someone out in the audience tell you that later?

It was the on-stage monitors. No one in the audience said anything, and we did have a couple of fans who made the drive from Chicago to see us (because they're also big J.E. fans) so it might have been totally fine out there -- but it was hugely disconcerting on stage. Also, it was a seated crowd that was there to see another band, so it was hard not to feel a little uncomfortable, anyway. I looked down a lot.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, I forgot about Sh4nk Hall. That place reminds me of high school (making my dad take me to see my drum teacher's band, etc.).

hey FF's

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan (and everyone else) -- this video has some neat drumming and wacky editing. Check it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzqumbhfxRo

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

That looks cool, I'll watch it when I get home.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link

people be workin'?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

friend of a friend who went through a windshield on monday is a-ok! bike is FFF-ed and she got a bunch of glass in her back, but otherwise she's totally fine. and it wasn't her fault, neither, so hopefully her bike and her trip to the ER will be covered.


driver didn't have a license, though. :-/

― grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

That's good to hear! No scarring, even?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think so!

― grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

what neighborhood was she in evan?

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey dudes and dudettes -- was thinking about taking Kr to Gr Zebra as a treat/x-mas gift. I know it's all about small plates, but that makes it hard to calculate an average check just by looking at the menu. How many plates would you typically want to get for two people? Just want to make sure this is in my price range. And I know a couple of you jokers will probably say JUST PAY FOR HER GODDAMNED MEAL ALREADY. And I will do my best to bite my tongue, thanks.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

JUST PAY FOR HER GODDAMNED MEAL ALREADY.


fulfilling my duty.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I think we got 5 or 6 plates, I think. Dessert and drinks and ours was about $125 with tip.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Tribune dude says 3 plates per person. $125, though: man alive.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

i heard there's some place in bucktown called marrakech cuisine that's knock yr socks off. little place in the back of a retail store.

just fyi

― grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

and for the love of god, john, just pay for her goddam meal already

― grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I've heard of that place, Evan. I get confused by it, though, because Kr and I had our first date at Marrakech Expresso.

Moroccans be openin' restaurants.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

What retail store?

Also: Just pay for her... etc.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

See, now I don't know if you guys are being serious or not.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.marrakechcuisine.com/

― grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I was being serious, just put it that way because Otto got to ya first with the captials response.

And think of it this way: last year I spent only a little more on a nice piece of jewelry for my gf and things went to shit shortly afterward. At least this way if that happens you'll have gotten an excellent meal out of it!

/cynic

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

he's right, you know!

― grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish I had spent $$$$$ on an engagement meal. :(

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I just bought two books for xmas break reading:

Boss: Richard J. Daley of Chicago by Mike Royko and Boundaries of Her Body: A Troubling History of Women's Rights in America by Debran Rowland

Those sound upset my neo-con stepfather pretty good.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I just bought two books for xmas break reading:

Boss: Richard J. Daley of Chicago by Mike Royko and Boundaries of Her Body: A Troubling History of Women's Rights in America by Debran Rowland

Those should upset my neo-con stepfather pretty good.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

SPOT THE DIFFERENCE AND WIN!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

sound/should.

what do i win?

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Corporations and Other Business Associations: Selected Statutes, Rules, and Forms 2006 by Charles R.T. O'Kelley and Robert B. Thompson. You can come get it Friday at 4:30 pm.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Glad he beat me to that.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

You can have Corporations and Other Business Associations: Cases and Materials by the same two guys who are probably just wicked fun at parties.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

oooh, lucky!

― grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

get it at 4:30, be in the depaul bookstore at 4:35.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I bet you get... $2.50.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

fine with me, that's a free coffee and donut at the forest park el station.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey John, I listened to clips of the stuff mentioned on that post-rock ILM thread. Some of it I wasn't into but that Lindstrom record sounds pretty tight. The drums sound incredibly like 70's Michael Jackson!

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Argh, I copied my dad on a work e-mail. Stupid Outlook completion matching. At least he doesn't work at GE anymore (competitor, etc.)

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I should check out that thread.

I was just thinking about how I always seemed to get boned on reselling my books in college, so I started keeping them with the intent of using them as reference. This is how the copy of Words Into Type and similar such volumes ended up on my shelf.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I've only heard two tracks from that record, but I like them. I don't know if I'd call it post-rock, though!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Lindstrom is post-rock now?

Come on, ppl. Space disco!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

haha xpost

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I like that Lindstrom record. And it's so trendy it'll match your goddamn shoes.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know if I'd call it post-rock, though!

I wouldn't either, but I still read about it on that thread. The thread where people were saying that they're not post-rock.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, and I just realized I had been reading one of jaxon's posts and jaymc's, i.e. why I brought it up here.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

later chicago.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

It's Marrakech for dinner tonight!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

JEALOUS

― grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry dude, but once I told my roomie about it there was no stopping that train.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Bring me Marrakech - 14th floor computer lab. kthxbi

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 23:34 (seventeen years ago) link

ditto -- BZN public library, 2nd floor, near the east windows

― grbchv! (gbx), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link

oh shit foxored red line again today. I took the 144 bus. not bad once i was on it, but it was an hour before i got to the stop.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 00:36 (seventeen years ago) link

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

CTA = Broken?

Red line fucked up, and on the Drive tonight there was one bus going 15-20 MPH with hazards flashing from downtown until I passed it at around Belmont. During that trip one of the long accordianed buses was completely broken down and blocking the right lane around Fullerton.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I would have taken then 147, but it was broken down on Michgan Ave, blocking traffic, and there were no other ones in sight. So I had to go with my 2nd choice.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 01:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Goddamn. What the fuck is going on?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 01:12 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, so I got pretty damn lost tonight. Or as lost as it's possible to be in such a strongly grid-following city like Chicago.

Returning from Michigan I usu. stop at the Gas City somewhere by a huge fireworks store just before the I-90 toll road starts. Or, failing that, I will get off at Exit 0 on the toll road (the stop where Jenny, Jeff and I stopped when we moved here--a smelly place).

Tonight I stopped for gas at S. Chicago Ave at 73rd. There was no return ramp that I could find. So this is what I did.

URL for this route is: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=586782

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 01:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I meant to say:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=586795

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 01:22 (seventeen years ago) link

You're driving now?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 01:26 (seventeen years ago) link

power outage. I took the brown home.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Thursday, 14 December 2006 01:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Fucking hell. I knew that when they announced on the platform that the delay would be "at least 15 minutes" we were talking about at least an hour.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 01:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I got to work in record time this morning, though. Not record, but what I had come to expect as normal before the last couple of months. I was quite early to work.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 01:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I was driving earlier today. I am not currently driving, nor was I when I posted.

I was just perusing earlier posts and I've got a couple of things to say:

- (Cake >>> Cookies >> Cobbler) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pie. And any and all of those make fudge seem as apealling as a turd out of a bleeding tumorous colon.

- I am not very good at parallel parking anymore. It takes me a couple of tries. Courtney reminded me of how it is unnecessary in NC and that in her 2 years in Charlotte she never once had to parallel park. (This reminds me of the World's Worst Drivers clip on Arrest'd Development where Lucille Bluth pulls into a parallel spot perpendicularly, gets out, and feeds the meter.)

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 01:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Also reminds me of Courtney's Charlotte-parking-related quote about a particular branch of a chain sports bar in a typical Charlotte strip mall: "That location of Midtown Sundries is so ghetto--they don't even have valet!" I didn't even have to call her on that one before she blushed and backpedaled.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 01:51 (seventeen years ago) link

- (Cake >>> Cookies >> Cobbler) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pie. And any and all of those make fudge seem as apealling as a turd out of a bleeding tumorous colon.

this is the craziest talk that ever talked!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 14 December 2006 01:54 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.comedycentral.com/images/shows/colbert_report/videos/season2/cr_2014_craziest_m1.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 01:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I finally listened to that lindstrom. I recognize it from M.A.N.D.Y.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Thursday, 14 December 2006 01:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm burning 6 dvds of noise/improv/experimental music for a co-worker

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Thursday, 14 December 2006 01:59 (seventeen years ago) link

and some dance.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Thursday, 14 December 2006 02:02 (seventeen years ago) link

didja like the lindstrom?

My favorite thing right now is Ricardo Villalobos. I've got everything he's released this year that I can find, and then some. Minima-tastic. I'm surprised to find I like this stuff as much as I do. I woulda figured myself for a more melodic guy. But hypnosis? Delicious.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 02:05 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, I do like it.

and I still love Villalobos. Get everything you can of his.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Thursday, 14 December 2006 02:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Waiworinao is probably in my top 10 songs ever.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Thursday, 14 December 2006 02:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm definitely working on a new artist collection.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 02:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Have you heard "Fitzheuer Zieheuer"? It's insane.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 02:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Dear Diary, I'm lonely and bored and I work nonstop tomorrow, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday, when all I really want to do is hang out with some motherfuckers in Chicago and get some dinner.

Also I met a boy who is cute and stuff and he actually has returned my phone calls. But, diary, I'm worried. Am I repeating past mistakes? If I get serious with him, then the answer is "Absolutely, positively, fer sure." See, Diary, he is a party kid--even at 34--and he reminds me of my last LTR in his proclivities. But he's cute, short, fun to hang out with, sexually compatible and I have to tell you that I'm tired of having either one-night-stands or nothing at all.

Is it really possible (for me) to *date* someone? Can I avoid "falling for" this guy?

Thanks for listening, you dirty, dirty Jew Diary.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 02:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Can I avoid "falling for" this guy?

Why bother avoiding it?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 02:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, bad question, I know the thinking that goes on there, believe me. But everything else you said leads me to believe that you're DYING to fall for this guy. Do it.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 02:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Or, well, see how it goes, but don't start talking yourself out of it NOW fer chrissakes. That's not fair to anybody.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 02:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Dear Diary, I'm sorry for all those hateful racist things I said about you.

― And meanwhile, our brothers from the east were eating bowls of rice safely nestl, Thursday, 14 December 2006 02:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I will absolutely not ever get serious about another guy who uses regularly. That is not to say that I would object to a guy I really care about and trust using cocaine at some point if it was a pretty special occasion, but I do not plan on having clubs and drugs as a part of any real relationship. Going out to drink with friends, getting shitfaced while out: fine. I am just really gunshy because the last guy knew the names of every DJ and dealer at every club.

Anyway, I'm only allowing myself to be mildly pleased that I have someone who I could potentially fuck more than once and who enjoys a little afterglow.

I want to tell you how I met him, but it's a long story. Highlights:

--Went out with Courtney and drank 2 bottles of wine (Wed b4 TT)
--Walked home, stopped at Crew for fried zucchini and a beer, and to show my very best behavior
--Went to Clark's. While 2 guys came in and one walked from the front door and right up to me without even taking his hat off and said, "Hi! How's it going?"
--I thought I had either met him when really drunk or hooked up with him, so I was cautious decided to act cocky and said, "I'd be a lot better if you bought me a drink."
--We did not know each other.
--He bought me a beer.
--We now know each other.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 03:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Ooops

--Went to Clark's. While I was there,2 guys came in and one walked from the front door and right up to me without even taking his hat off and said, "Hi! How's it going?"

Other typos be damned.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

"I'd be a lot better if you bought me a drink."

I can never use this line. :(

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 03:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Weird thing tonight with the cats. We've all seen Acker (Jessa's cat) get vicious, but I've never seen her get vicious with such purpose and conviction. Apparently, she's a mama bear.

So earlier, Dobbler was underfoot as usual, and I stepped on her tail. Happens every now and then with a cat who's always underfoot. So she made that "you hurt me!" sound, and Acker comes CHARGING out of whatever room she was in and ATTACKING me. Like, very much on the offense. She was protecting the young'uns! I'd never seen her do this.

Usually what I do after I step on my kitty is to go make amends, pick her up and talk sweet to her and rub her belly. Acker was having none of it. She wouldn't let me get near my cat. She would stand between us and hiss and swipe. VERY defensive. It was an hour at least, long after Dobbler had forgotten, that Acker would let me near her.

I don't know... it was kinda neat. This is a side of this normally randomly evil cat that I'd never seen before.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 03:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm only allowing myself to be mildly pleased that I have someone who I could potentially fuck more than once and who enjoys a little afterglow.

Yes! I think this is exactly right. Even VERY pleased would be acceptable. Mushy would be bad right now. Planning the wedding would be worse yet. But worst of all would be freaking out about it.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 03:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw the holiday train tonight.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Thursday, 14 December 2006 04:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Acker comes CHARGING out of whatever room she was in and ATTACKING me.

I've been at the receiving end of one of those Acker attacks. I don't think she's protective. I think she's just completely fucking insane.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 14 December 2006 04:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but you don't understand. It was because the other kitty made a hurt noise. That's what set her off. Believe me, I've been randomly attacked by her too. This was specific. SEE EARLIER POST. I EXPLAINED ALL THIS THINGS.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:05 (seventeen years ago) link

And I love this cat. Oddly. I know how you feel about Jessa, and you know I do not feel the same way, but please make an exception for her cat. It's just a cat.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Clearly I am projecting way more onto this hell bitch of a cat than you are.

Bed now.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I just got a holiday card addressed to me, at my address, but signed by a physician (and staff) whom I have never seen, at a clinic I have never been to. ¿Queeee?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:17 (seventeen years ago) link

What the fucking fuck.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:17 (seventeen years ago) link

®

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, so why not ¿ ?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:19 (seventeen years ago) link

But you just did it there, you fucking dirty jew browser!

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:20 (seventeen years ago) link

¿ Que?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:20 (seventeen years ago) link

¿Queeee?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:20 (seventeen years ago) link

...

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:21 (seventeen years ago) link

¿Que?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:21 (seventeen years ago) link

There we are.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Cool. Now I can finally be a web designer.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:22 (seventeen years ago) link

ha bloody ha.

I'm still here, you know.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:23 (seventeen years ago) link

:)

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Smilies cover all transgressions, right?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:23 (seventeen years ago) link

"I'd be a lot better if you bought me a drink."

I can never use this line. :(

I don't understand. ¿Why not?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I suppose if I were cheerful enough, I could say that to a girl, thus going against the standard "buying a drink" meatbar wisdom. The real trouble is, whenever I say things like that, I come off as full of hate. This does not play well in Poughkeepsie.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I was being a barfly. And btw, any possible slickness this "line" might indicate was promptly done away with when he ordered my beer and I said something like, "¡Oh no! Wait, wait--I was kidding. Here let me buy you a drink." Yet he bought me a drink. Hail the conquering queero.

― ¿CrunkleJ? (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:31 (seventeen years ago) link

RAH!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:33 (seventeen years ago) link

any possible slickness this "line" might indicate

No, that's just it! There's nothing slick about it! It's brass balls to say something like that, or just not caring at all. That's what's hot about it.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to say that I had the same reaction I would have to any one of my friends' saying it was the one I felt when I heard myself saying it--I did an small internal double-take. Pretty much the same reaction I had when Kenan told Robin her tits looked great in her Halloween costume.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh. I was horrified at myself.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:40 (seventeen years ago) link

And to once again clarify -- I was thinking her tits were PART of her Halloween costume. I guess because I'd never noticed them before. Which I guess is just as insulting. In a way. I guess.

Oh God I don't know what I'm doing. Don't listen to me.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Stoney and I would go over to Buckle's and Puff would turn us on to a hot load of mescaline crumbled into a tumbler of ether with a float of Percocet jimmies. I'd wake up with blood on my ass, and then we'd get high. Those were some good times.

― &int (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Remind me to tell you my traintracks story.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Jerri: Do a lot of the people die of syphilis?

Noblet: Oh, absolutely. Historically, syphilis is right up there with Germans. It wiped out the Romanovs, it decimated our fleet at Pearl Harbor, and of course, Fidel Castro impersonated Marilyn Monroe and gave President Kennedy a case of syphilis so severe that eventually it blew the back of his head off.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:51 (seventeen years ago) link

hahaha

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:52 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe i should give this show another chance, apart from my hate of the sedaris character and her bizarre facial tics.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 05:54 (seventeen years ago) link

You have convinced me. My hate is not fair. That would be like hating a mongoloid because they keep sticking their tongue out. They're also very funny people who say silly things!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 06:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Before I retire for the evening I need to tell you before I forget that I just remembered on my drive back down to Chicago that I went to high school with a guy by the name of Jeff Posthumus. Cool name.

And this too:

Jerri Blank: Shazam. Look. Drake Rogers. Mmm, he makes me all puffy down there. I'd love to tame his blue vein swayback throbber.
Tammi Littlenut: What do you mean, Jerri?
Jerri Blank: Take him backstage behind the meat curtain, know what I mean? I'm talkin' about pounding out the veal.
Tammi Littlenut: Are you thinking about having sex already?
Jerri Blank: Does a pimp carry a razor?
Tammi Littlenut: I don't know...
Jerri Blank: Trust me, they all do.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 06:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, see but the "old whore" part of Jerri Blank is the part I like the least, because it's the farthest removed from Sedaris herself, and the thing she's least convincing at. And SHE DOESN'T ACT, she mugs. She has funny lines, yeah, VERY funny sometimes, but when it comes time for her to be someone she obviously isn't, instead of acting she sticks out her teeth and makes like she's some cross between a whore and a hick and Buckwheat. Which is nothing, really, it's just... a pose. IT'S NOT FUNNY. It's uncomfortable. I feel for her. I wish she was being funnier.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 06:15 (seventeen years ago) link

It's like watching "Wet Hot American Summer," if that helps any.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 06:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Cheap shot. Sorry.

'Night.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 14 December 2006 06:31 (seventeen years ago) link

blue vein swayback throbber

Stephen Colbert said that on TV last night! Or the night before. Something.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 14 December 2006 13:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Also: Jesse, I would like to borrow your Strangers with Candy DVDs. And those for that show that Jeff doesn't like.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 14 December 2006 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG THE END IS NEAR

― grbchv! (gbx), Thursday, 14 December 2006 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link

How many more, Evan?

I've got one tomorrow and then the paper. So close... so close...

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 14 December 2006 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, I'm totally stealing your line, it's the most noirish thing I've heard in wee--well, since I watched Brick. And it will result in me being handed things with vodka in them, which is always never a bad idea!

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 14 December 2006 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, how do you strikethroughs? My usual HTML cheat-sheet has but it didn't come out right.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 14 December 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

[strike]like this?[/strike].

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 14 December 2006 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, thanks. In that case, make my last post: And it will result in me being handed things with vodka in them, which is always never a bad idea!

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 14 December 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

(Why does HTML site say to use "del"? Who knows?)

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 14 December 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

this talk of vodka drinks makes me want to go out for cocktails tonight. not beer, COCKTAILS. i'm thinking about going to the holiday club around 10-ish if anyone cares to join me. i'll be in the back bar.

or i'll be at home, one or the other.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I just use [s]Strangers With Candy[/s]

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

omgomgomgomg the laundry guy just came and picked up all our dirty laundry (and I was not shy about not throwing some things in there that I've been meaning to wash for awhile, like the quilt the cat puked on) and will bring it back today at 5:30 and IT IS FREE and he said we can do this once a week until January 31 FOR FREE.

For no money, a nice young man comes to our apartment and takes away two huge bags of dirty laundry and then someone brings the clothes back to me folded and clean and fresh at 5:30 pm. For free. Once a week. Until January 31. At no cost to me.

Best thing that has happened to me in like, I don't know. Months? Years?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Why free?

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2310903/

Someone you know is famous.

My server at T's last night was wearing a color of nail polish that the woman at the salon said was called "I'm Not a Waitress."

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i want a taco for my face hole.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I have that - it's an OPI color called "I'm not really a waitress." It's a really nice red.

The laundry service is doing a promotion in our zip code - http://www.mud-room.com/. I'm guessing that it's a real drug dealer kind of move - get you hooked when it's free and then charge you $1.50 a pound for it.

Although, I think it's very smart. I usually have the time and the inclination to do the laundry myself. I like doing laundry! But when we're really super busy, I will drop it off. That has happened twice in our lives and we look at it as a necessary splurge, like taking a cab when it's pouring down rain and the train is broken far away from work. Now that I know that this place is trustworthy and efficient and reliable, I will be more likely to call on them for that necessary splurge in the future. It's more expensive, but then come here and get the shit so there's definitely value added there.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

proving the pair knows how to handle spitting on organs

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey check it out, my bro in Chicago who does sound work for films did that one: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1914101/

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

If you asked people the number-one most-popular after-hours snack, the answer would usually be pizza. But for many of us, without question, it's Mexican food.

More specifically, it's the taco.

The answer is always pizza! Even when it's tacos! Dummies.

xpost - damn, we're all going to have to see that movie together since it's like a showcase for our show biz friends.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

No Moran, no credibility. And please, Flash Taco???!? C'MON

Altho they're totally OTM about biira.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

dan, you better not be talking bad about flash taco.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

All I'm saying is I've had much better. I guess I'm separating my judgment it from eating tacos for pizza. Just about any taco is good for pizza, Flash included.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

"judgement on it"

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

A woman I work with has Bell's palsy -- or at least I'm assuming that's what it is. She looked fine (if obese) until a couple of months ago, now she looks like she had a stroke.

― jaymc somehow missed a whole series of posts the other day (jaymc), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

A week from tomorrow I'll be having Fiesta Mexicana for pizza and fried shrimp for dessert pizza.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i can not count the number of times i didn't want to see the second band at sub-t and instead went over to flash or underdog. i've brought flash taco back into the big horse which probably pissed the owner who worked the door off since the lounge was in back of a taco joint.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

John, maybe she had a stroke.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Or maybe it's all that fat weighing her face down.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I still rep for Flash Taco because of the grilled peppers in its vegetarian burrito. Also, one time I was drunk and ordered a burrito from Flash Taco, and I was all, "Wow, this tortilla is interesting, it has a flaky texture, almost like phyllo dough" -- and then I realized I was eating the paper wrapper.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm finally caught up and all better.

I have that nail color too!

I FRUXORING love Strangers with Candy. Amy reminds me of my own comedy schtick, in the privacy of my own home (to which Nick responds by saying, Sarah, please don't do that any more. It's not funny, it's disturbing).

My frenchie sis sent this huge email this morning detailing how she thought for sure her paperwork wouldn't work out so she had already had her heart set on going to spend Christmas with her hubbie's fam (and hadn't told us this) and now she's heartbroken because the papers went through and she can come to the States. GRR!

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

and I was all, "Wow, this tortilla is interesting, it has a flaky texture, almost like phyllo dough" -- and then I realized I was eating the paper wrapper.

awesome. i saw a guy bite into the tin foil once but he opened his eyes and realized the mistake right away.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

and then I realized I was eating the paper wrapper

LOL

xpost oh even better

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 14 December 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG you guys, hot chocolate mixed into coffee. Why have I never thought of this before?

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 14 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

it's called a mocha, you dork.

― grbchv! (gbx), Thursday, 14 December 2006 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

ps - done wif finals.

― grbchv! (gbx), Thursday, 14 December 2006 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 14 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

free crappy work coffee + free crappy work hot chocolate packet = ghetto mocha

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 14 December 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

congratulations, Evan!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 14 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/120/286226332_2c386530c5_o.png

― grbchv! (gbx), Thursday, 14 December 2006 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, I remember that feeling. Let the slacking commence!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 14 December 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

WOO HOO!

Bye. I'm going to eat a fancy work lunch downtown followed by a fancy work dinner in Evnanston for Nick's company this evening.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 14 December 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Update from last night: Marrakech v. good, go for "The Couscous".

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 14 December 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Last night I had a last-day-of-class bash with my students and

1) i made jambalaya with chicken andouille and shirmps instead of the soup, a good idea since i used stuff that was sitting in the fridge and didn't have to buy anything extra

2) my ethiopian student brought food THANK YOU

3) i brought some music for the party, including several ethiopiques selections and my student, B, said that she likes that music, but
a. it's popular among "old people"
b. "old people" like to dance to it at weddings

4) which leads me to believe that it's a bit like our Motown -- so the next time you feel all hip and worldly listening to your ethiopiques, realize that you are basically jamming to "My Girl". i will try to remember this as well.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

ethiopiques is the greatest lounge music of all time and i will never feel bad for grooving on that.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 14 December 2006 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm not saying you should -- i groove on it too, or else i wouldn't have brought it to class -- but i thought it was funny that she said it was "what old people dance to at weddings."

you know, OLD PEOPLE.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

like me.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I'M OLDER THAN YOU.

where's my social security check?

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 14 December 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Put your glasses on old man, it's ON THE TABLE, next to the Geritol.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, totally. I know some dudes who play in a salsa band in town, it's cool but apparently in the timeline of Latin music the style is what people's grandparents and parents were hip to.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 14 December 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

free crappy work coffee + free crappy work hot chocolate packet = ghetto mocha

i used to drink this daily.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Thursday, 14 December 2006 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i think my nephew sent me this for xmas. but seeing as he's only 6 months old i'm guessing my sister helped pick it out.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B00005IBX9/ref=dp_otherviews_0/102-9207260-8074543?ie=UTF8&s=kitchen&img=0

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 14 December 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Cocktails and/or beers before the Hawks/Wings game tonight @ 4-St@r Bar at Madison and Racine.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 14 December 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

what time dan-o? i might be up for that.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 14 December 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Dunno exactly but the game is at 7:30. Say, 6ish? I've got to go home first and drop my shit off, then come back downtown. I'll shoot you a txt.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 14 December 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, i'm totally not committing to this though.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 14 December 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

whatevs dude

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 14 December 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I'm going to Neo tonight with EZ and some other folks, if I feel okay -- I've had a very low-level cold all week.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 14 December 2006 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm going to watch the movie about jewish Homos tonight.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 14 December 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Fuck fuck fuck the CTA! Remember that last Thurs. I said that I had waited for my Chicago card to activate for over a week? And they said that I was supposed to have waited 3 business days before using it? Well it's been 4+ and it's still fucking inactive, but they sure as shit charged me $75.

I called and they said that the system was supposed to have reactivated it automatically, but there was a glitch. A real person would do it. But that will take 3 days. In the meantime I am welcome to walk 6 blocks down to the CTA place and pick up a 7 day pass to get me through, but I don't have time.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, and the story behind the 3 day waiting period: When I was in NO I wasn't using my card, but when I came back to visit I saw that I had a small balance available so I used it. The card then tried to reload and could not, so they deactivated it. When I returned I reactivated it. Then I was supposed to wait 3 business days before reactivating it. I did not, so the balance went into the negative (despite my having been charged $75!) and it re-deactivated.

I could kill.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Chicago, should I quit my clerkship next semester so I can go back and volunteer for worker justice and give myself a little more breathing room for completing all the stuffnjunk necessary to finish school? I will be taking classes and externing at the EEOC plus ???

Pros: More time. Less stress. Good networking opportunities through worker justice endeavors.

Cons: Minuscule possibility that a miracle will occur and my current firm will decide to hire me after graduation. I will miss my coworkers.

Money is not an issue. What do I do????

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 14 December 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

shit, that reminds me, i need to cancel that chicago card that i lost.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 14 December 2006 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

JENNY -- You crazy?!?! Quit and do more volunteer work. If you don't need the money, you can see your coworkers anytime.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 14 December 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

quitters never win, and winners never quit

But that's bullshit. Yr firm obviously knows you're awesome, maybe they'll miss you enough to make room for a real job! I say do it.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 14 December 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

another vote for QUIT QUIT QUIT.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Thursday, 14 December 2006 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

chilxors if anyone cares to join me for cocktails, beer, and smart conversation i will be at the back bar of the holiday club from 10-ish until sometime later than 10.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 14 December 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Quitting sounds good unless there's a much higher chance that you'll be hired.

Does anyone know who originally wrote the song 'Red Dress' (aka 'Hi-Heeled Sneakers')?

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 14 December 2006 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

later chicago.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 14 December 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

They brought the laundry back! It wasn't a scam to steal our clothes! I'm so happy I want to put everything on all at once.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 14 December 2006 23:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i need a beer, but my bike is disassembled and i cant go buy some

delivery, plz

― grbchv! (gbx), Friday, 15 December 2006 00:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought you had a car, Evan. How can you possibly not have a car in Montana??

Jenny-- look into how things are in worker justice land before you go. The new director of Chicago |interfaith (her name is Breez3r) is supposedly not very pleasant to work with. Have you thought about volunteering at National |WJ? I don't know. It makes me sad that things always have to change. I liked how it was when we first started there and Jose was the head of the Chicago center.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 15 December 2006 03:44 (seventeen years ago) link

M@rikka's email was all sunshine, lollipops, and roses and she actually said really good things about BZ. But then again, she's dim so who knows. But if I volunteer, I'll be doing it a couple afternoons/nights a week so it's not like I really have to deal with anybody that much. I'm also checking into the Chicago W0rker's L3gal Clinic at the Chicago W0rker's C0llaborative - Jed works there so that could be cool. He's nice.

I've pretty much made up my mind. The only thing that will change it is if my boss tells me that I can have a job after graduation if I stick around. Note: I really actually very much like my job, so this isn't a frantic exit from a crappy situation. It's just not working with my schedule.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Friday, 15 December 2006 04:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish I spoke Spanish so I could work at the L@tino Union.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Friday, 15 December 2006 04:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Go to the fucking Chicago AIDS/homo legal place and volunteer. And get me a fuckingg job there while you're at it. It worked once.....

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 15 December 2006 04:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Detroit 3, Chicago 2. Suck on that, dudes down the row from me.

M@rikka's email was all...

I've never heard of anyone named that except my friend T0mas' sister, but it's only with one "k". Weird. Is this person Estonian?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 15 December 2006 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link

are you blogging from a hockey game??

― grbchv! (gbx), Friday, 15 December 2006 04:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish I could play a sport. I've been talking to my little jailbird friend in NO who is telling me how great a way it is to meet a future ex-husband and they accept all skill levels, but the thought of engaging in any team sport makes me very, very nervous--like being in high school again.

Group activities I could see myself engaging in: darts, tennis, pool, bowling, jam band.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 15 December 2006 05:01 (seventeen years ago) link

are you blogging from a hockey game??

Too nerdy even for me.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 15 December 2006 05:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll play tennis with you. Have I ever played you?

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Friday, 15 December 2006 05:11 (seventeen years ago) link

We have never played tennis. I haven't played since '97, so I don't need no attitude about my knowledge or abilities.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 15 December 2006 14:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh god team sports bring out some serious junior high gym nightmares for me.

Jesse, go volunteer yourself. Tell them you're looking for a husband. They'll like that.

I have no idea if M@rikka is Estonian.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Friday, 15 December 2006 14:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Mornin' pawdnuhs. I am a bit hungover today even though the last drink I had yesterday was around 4pm.

I just uploaded the 100 best 80s songs, according to ILM, and it's making me happy.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 15 December 2006 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny, I also vote for quitting.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 15 December 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Morning. I tried to watch Trembling Before G-D last night (no shlomo) but the dvd was scratched to hell and unwatchable.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 15 December 2006 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Shit, that's too bad -- it's quite a thing. I like how they put subtitles in for any sentence with a Yiddish or Hebrew word in it, and some of them are just approximate translations, which is funny.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 15 December 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, and some of them are totally obvious. Like the guy will say "it's not kosher" and the subtitle will say "it is not in accordance with Jewish dietary laws" or something.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 15 December 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah! Hah. I can't believe you just said "no schlomo".

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 15 December 2006 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh no!

Everyone in the office got a big gift card to Nike from the boss. I just went on their site and apparently they even sell FEDORAS. ha ha

― Calico (calico), Friday, 15 December 2006 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha, thx Laurel I made that joke last night and 4mma totally didn't get it.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 15 December 2006 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

That's because she's not an interweb nerdsky.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 15 December 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

True. :( She's not a rap nerd either.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 15 December 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

jenny, i'm all for volunteering but i would personally choose whatever would enable me to have a larger variety of choices/opportunities down the road. that's essentially why leaf went with a big firm for next summer . . . and they'll give him a "scholarship" if he does a clerkship.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Friday, 15 December 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

no schlomo

Oh speaking of which, happy Chanukah y'all (though not for a few hours I guess).

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 15 December 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Julia, don't forget to light one candle before sunset tonight. Remind yer roomie.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 15 December 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

There is a custom to have Hanukkah parties and to eat foods fried or baked in oil.

menorahs are pretty and oooo fire and yay fried foods. i like this holiday.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Friday, 15 December 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

weird spam of the day:

Hot married baby search for group anal sex!

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 15 December 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Here is a completely legitimate keyword search I just did at work:

baby wizard sex

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 15 December 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Back on the post rock tip for just a sec: I found the new Expl0s|ons in the 5ky record on the internets and even though some say "it sounds just like all their other records", their other records sound like AWESOME and I like the new one too.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 15 December 2006 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Would I like Six Parts Seven, Dan?

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 15 December 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe, I'm not sure. I'm always wary of reccomending bands like them to Tortoise fans because, well, they kind of sound like Tortoise! I like it mainly 'cause it was something new when I was starting my latest phase of music listening at work.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 15 December 2006 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

tom skilling is predicting a 60 degree day tomorrow. if he weren't from a family of degenerate liars i would be psyched about this.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 15 December 2006 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

CPR called it at close to 60 in their forecast this morning too, FWIW.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 15 December 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

weather.com says 53 tomorrow. Either way, hello open windows.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 15 December 2006 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey guys, I need suggestions for crazy html tags that might break stuff (i.e. that any good software should block the use of). Kenan, Dan?

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 15 December 2006 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

blink

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 15 December 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.devguru.com/technologies/html/QuickRef/html_other_tags.html

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 15 December 2006 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

http://obscuretags.com/

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 15 December 2006 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks guys.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 15 December 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

that obscure tags page is pretty interesting, actually. I've never even heard of half of that stuff.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 15 December 2006 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, ditto for your link! The WebTV stuff is totally foreign to me.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 15 December 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, parents xmas gifts bought, i'll get my sister/bro in-law/nephew's stuff tomorrow afternoon, just need to find a place to order a bottle of jameson for my younger sister and the family is done.

the ex's stuff is en route, just need to pick something up for the dog. then i need to remember to get to the ups store on monday. this will be the first year i'm not wrapping gifts on xmas eve in forever. maybe the first time ever.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 15 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, and on my cab ride home last night we drove by the music box and they were filming something in front of the marquee. it featured one of the most stunning women i've ever laid eyes on trying to look bored and blase as she was getting out of/getting into/otherwise leaning against the door of a taxi in a red evening dress.

it was kind of surreal.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 15 December 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

oh and i forgot my cigarettes in the jacket i was wearing last night and right now i'm ready to punch everyone i work with in the face.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 15 December 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I smoked way too much last night at some crazy-face art party in an apartment that might be bigger than my childhood home (a 4-bedroom 3-story Victorian). Urgh, champagne.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 15 December 2006 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Also I am listening to sad bastardess country music (Laura Cantrell) and it's making me so bluuuuuuuue, why don't I stay behind.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 15 December 2006 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

man i love a good champagne buzz. so effervescent. if i'm up early enough i think i'll have a mimosa on sunday.

xpost- i'm listening to quintron and ms. pussycat and it's making me happy for the first time in a while. we seem to be in sync, just polar opposites.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 15 December 2006 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

damn, quintron is over now. boo ba la hoo.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 15 December 2006 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I am considering purchasing a 3' x 5' Red Wings flag to just annoy the shit out of some Hawks fans next time they come to town. I'm wondering if they'd even let me in the door with something like that.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 15 December 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

ooh, champagne. can't get enough of it.

friend of mine, though, has the same reaction to champagne that i have to tequila. i mean, tequila already seemed gross to me before the night in question...but champagne? unless something truly happened, i can't see ever hating it.

xp shove it down yr pants!

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Friday, 15 December 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I am considering purchasing a 3' x 5' Red Wings flag to just annoy the shit out of some Hawks fans next time they come to town. I'm wondering if they'd even let me in the door with something like that.

getting in isn't the problem, it's getting home where it gets dicey.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 15 December 2006 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

xp shove it down yr pants!

That's what I was thinking, or possibly just under my coat. Also thinking of getting a cane to use as a flagpole once I'm inside. Given Kev's comment it might have to be a sword cane...

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 15 December 2006 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

So my first foray into suit shopping was at Men's Warehouse. They were nice and helpful but the prices were as much as a some suits I saw at Marshall Field's. They start at $199 for a really ugly sport coat. Suits start at around $300, except for this really gross one for about $250.

Where are these magical < $250 suits I hear so much about?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 15 December 2006 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

The man did have a wonderful idea. My primary reason for getting a suit is to wear to an interview. Since I would need one for a 1st interview and another for a second, he recommended buying a suit with a second pair of pants and then getting a sport coat that I could mix and match. This trimmed about $80 off the bill.

Also, alterations cost extra.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 15 December 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

hello? is this thing on?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 15 December 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi Jesse. I don't know anything about suits.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 15 December 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

You should call in sick to work and come party tonite

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 15 December 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Men's Warehouse, huh? Ask John.

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Friday, 15 December 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know anything about partying. Just kidding. I totally do.

Hey. My appetite is gone. It's amazing. A miracle. I can NOT believe it. I am simply not hungry, and when I am and I eat, I barely get started before I'm stuffed. This is the fucking best thing that's ever happened to me.

Some of you may remember that I used to eat a 1/2 lb. burger and fries and still go foraging from other people's plates. Now I can barely eat 1/2 of the burger and a few fries. This has been going on for more than a week. Today I was hungry and ate a small piece of bread at work and it ruined my appetite for lunch. And I had only had an apple for breakfast, and that only b/c I thought I should.

I think it's stress because of my dad's health, etc, but normally that would make me pig out. Let's hope this continues.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 15 December 2006 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2310903/

So here's the story about how Sayjal and the movie.

So once upon a time Heidi told me about these auditions for this indy movie she was helping cast and so I went and they thought I was funny and cast me and I shot it last summer. The director was kind of weird and they kind of swindled me since she (the director) told me I was going to get paid but I ain't seen no check yet... I've never seen the finished product but I think Heidi is planning on trying to go to the premiere in LA in Feb, apparently it got accepted to some sort of big deal (but not so big deal that I can remember the name) film festival...I'm not sure the details. I'm only in it for like 5 minutes but it's the funniest 5 minutes of the movie I'm sure.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 15 December 2006 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Wage-claim case?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 15 December 2006 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

All I know is that plot summary is terrible.

― Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 16 December 2006 00:29 (seventeen years ago) link

This town was built on mud and stilts. Chicago thought for the day.

Ok, I'm off to a party.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 16 December 2006 04:36 (seventeen years ago) link

three down. one big ass paper to go.

I watched people ice skating tonight and got all xmas squishy. Whee!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 16 December 2006 05:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, otto and dan. I bolted without telling you. I went out for a cigarette, and liked being outside so much I thought I might go look for a store to buy some food, and on the way I kinda caught a cab. I didn't mean to. I think maybe I just wanted to be home all along.

Jesus, I'm old. Or else I'm curmudgeonly. Nice people and free booze are no longer enough to keep me from going home. Maybe I need a good DJ? I don't know.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 16 December 2006 06:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Really, I think I have reverted back to being a teenager. I have no social skills -- in fact NEGATIVE social skills, because all I'm really good at is pissing people off, and then I play that up and start TRYING to piss people off, which is high school all over again. What am I saying... "all over." I never LEFT high school.

Anyway, yeah. I'm no good at parties. I used to say that I was ok at smaller gatherings with just close friends, but even then I apparently end up yelling at people. Truth be told, I'm really bad with with people. People, as a rule, cannot stand me. And so... I leave parties before I do things like start talking to people I don't know. That won't end well.

Grr. I don't want this to sound like self pity. It's all so ugly.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 16 December 2006 06:49 (seventeen years ago) link

You could always text them from the cab, you know. They might see that sooner than your POST, which they won't find until they GET HOME, at the soonest.

― Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 16 December 2006 08:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, it's OK. We figured as much.

And shit, how am I home so early from such a party?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Saturday, 16 December 2006 09:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Last night I was getting ready for bed and I realized I was engaging in some unusually elaborate sleepy time preparations, like I was getting ready to go on a trip or something, and then I realized that I kind of was and then I slept for twelve god damn hours.

I need to do that about ten more times and I should be back to normal.

I feel like when I'm done with law school I'm going to be a totally different, relaxed, normal person and then I'll have to make friends with everybody all over again.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 16 December 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, STFU. You're actually fun to talk to at parties and out drinking, etc. You're only really insufferable online. And really, that's not such a bad thing. For you. For the rest of us, it sucks.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 16 December 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

roommate had birthday.

roommate has pseudo-girlfriend who is professional chef. this morn she has gone away for xmas. so i have half a lovely boozy bday cake to eat for breakfast because roomie's pseudo-gf is totally in LUV with her and does stuff like making nice cakes.

i don't handle booze well but it seems baked enough that it's not totally doing me in. joy to the world.

damn, i'm sleepy though.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Saturday, 16 December 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

So I have been lying/sitting around the house wishing I had some milk to go with my berry Rice Krispies. I decided to eat my guacamole instead since that would not involve me going to the store, which is a whole half of a block away. But I didn't want guac, I wanted rice krispies. But I changed my thinking and got enthused about guacamole which I opened up and found had turned brown.

Now I'm hungry for guacamole, have no milk, and am writing about it on the fucking internet. It's not really a good way to spend a weekend morning.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 16 December 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I recommend this video for most of you ILXors. http://youtube.com/watch?v=pHFC6rlGsH8

I think Jenny, Julia, Laurel, Jordan and Sarah will like it. Jeff and Kenan probably won't.

For anyone who is watching it and not finding it amusing, hold on until 2:50.

I came upon this video in an odd way: through the Chicago Diner's website.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 16 December 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't believe an Eluvium album is in the top 10 on oink. Did he get popular without me noticing?

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Saturday, 16 December 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link


Hmmm. A strange interview with Robert Smith. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ki-U8RF5xjs

I want to be an oinker.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 16 December 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Did you know that David Bowie's pupils are of unequal sizes?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 16 December 2006 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought that video was amusing. How come I'm the only dude you thought would like it though, huh Jesse?

Also that drumming video that Dan posted upthread is brilliant.

Tonight I am seeing country artist Dale Watson, because a friend's band is opening up.

― JordanC (JordanC), Saturday, 16 December 2006 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah and I went to the Tower on Clark today. All cds that are left are 70 percent off. It took some digging but I ended up with the new Lansing-Dreiden, "Shine a Light" by the Constantines and "Griller" by Ut for like $14. Sarah got the newer Pretty Girls Make Graves, the Figurines album, "Anniemal" (for 50 cents!), a fourth cd I can't remember and a book about 1930's crooners by Lenny Kaye for $20. Basically, if you have some time to kill and feel like searching for good stuff, it might be worth heading over there in the next 6 days before they close completely.

― n/a (n/a), Saturday, 16 December 2006 23:34 (seventeen years ago) link

my brother went to the one in schaumburg the other night, i guess it was pretty much cleaned out. he found 'thrills' by ellen allien, though.

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Sunday, 17 December 2006 04:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan- I forgot about Dan. I mostly thought Jeff wouldn't like it. I have no idea what Kevin would think of it.

I can't stop watching it. The "Oh" gets me every time.


Tonight at work, the unthinkable happened. It was something straight out of a serving nightmare, though I have never experienced this particular scenario in an actual waiter nightmare. Anyway, I gave a guest another guest's credit card. And he left with it. I have never done anything like that before. Earlier in the week a bartender did the same thing. It was AWFUL and I was rattled for the rest of the night.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Sunday, 17 December 2006 05:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Work Nightmares?

Hey. Go contribute to my fucking thread.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Sunday, 17 December 2006 05:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I have seen that shoes video already and I thought, "I should send this to Jesse; I bet he would like it" and then I did other things instead.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 17 December 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Also - what consequences, if any, do you face for giving away your guest's credit card? Do you think you are screwing up on purpose so you'll get fired and have to find a new job because you are afraid to quit even though you hate it?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 17 December 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

this weekend = total blur. whoo.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Sunday, 17 December 2006 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I've barely left the couch.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Sunday, 17 December 2006 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

early christmas! my parents came over since they're going away for the holiday. i got boring stuff, and pretty white gold hoop earrings, and MANGO JUICE. i don't think that was an xmas present, but DUDE. my parents shop at costco where everything is in massive containers, so i have a lifetime supply of this magnificent nectar. or a few days' worth, anyway. IT'S SO GOOD.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Monday, 18 December 2006 00:07 (seventeen years ago) link

http://archive.salon.com/comics/boll/2000/10/05/boll/story.gif

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 18 December 2006 00:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Also - what consequences, if any, do you face for giving away your guest's credit card? Do you think you are screwing up on purpose so you'll get fired and have to find a new job because you are afraid to quit even though you hate it?

None. The guy was the father of a regular bar guest--a really nice girl from from the building, Le0 Burne77 I think. On one hand a mitigating factor, on the other hand something that made it so much worse! He called and cancelled his card. The manager slapped his forhead and I made myself scarce.

And then tonight was so. fuuucking. bad. We had a gross "Detroit ghetto" party of 25 who insisted on seperate checks-- which we simply never ever ever do. They told the manager that I had agreed to this and he fucking capitulated. I had to ignore stop taking tables, and spend 45 minutes processing their checks (for a fucking lousy $800 for 25 people) while one guy kept interrupting and harping because their limo had been waiting outside the whole time.

Anyway, I felt like I was back at Ganache and I had a very shitty night, with even shittier money.

I no longer want to be a waiter at all, but for fuck's sake, if I am, I'm supposed to be in a "professional" setting here and I would like to have some of the perks.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 04:32 (seventeen years ago) link

The fun part came when some fucking guy who talked like Chris Farley in his "Da Bears" SNL sketch corrected my handshake. He introduced himself, we shook hands and he said, "No. You gotta grip like this," and pulled my index finger out so it extended down the inside of his wrist.

Who the fuck does this?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 04:35 (seventeen years ago) link

When will Oscar De La Hoya EVERREWRRERERER come and rescue me from this? I have been waiting for about...10 years or more for him, and I'm afraid it might not happen.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/249741~Oscar-De-La-Hoya-Posters.jpg

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 04:43 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.mondowendell.com/osmile.jpg

http://members.tripod.com/miguelburgos_1/oscar_de_la_hoya.jpg

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 04:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey does anybody want to straight copy edit (no content changes, just typos/spelling and grammar) a 30 page paper on solidarity unionism?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 04:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh Jesse, he'd probably just beat you up a lot. And if not, he'll be dumb as hell before too long. The human head just isn't meant to take that kind of abuse.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 04:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I was just thinking, has he ever taken a hit to that beautiful face? I used to have an enormous crush on him when I was around 20, and he is just as cute now as then. I'd play rope-a-dope with him anytime. What a fucking hot man.

Did you know he has been a recording artist? I'm afraid to investigate this.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 05:01 (seventeen years ago) link

You're better off just pretending that all his songs are love ballads to you, I am almost sure of it.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 05:03 (seventeen years ago) link

http://members.tripod.com/miguelburgos_1/oscar_de_la_hoya.jpg

Oscar talks. He is actually more articulate that I thought he would be.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 05:03 (seventeen years ago) link

He says, "Image hosted by Tripod."

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 05:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, stop threatening me over email. If you have something to say, you just say it right here to my virtual face.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 05:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Motherfuckga;glkjds

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YoyNxoyhms0

oscartalkshe'smorearticulatethanihogua;hioewr;wgan;egivnaweg;iohwg'3w98h23

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 05:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I have been reading Prep. I don't ever want this book to end.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 05:11 (seventeen years ago) link

This is one of those books that make me feel anxious after I get halfway through if I don't have another sure thing lined up.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 05:14 (seventeen years ago) link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/1180471.stm

Goddammit. Old news, but this makes me mad because it slightly dissapates my disgust towards Madonna.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 06:31 (seventeen years ago) link

If you missed JT on SNL, you missed the vocal performance of the year.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1dmVU08zVpA

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 18 December 2006 13:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i finally finished my xmas mix this weekend and it's pretty goddamn good. too bad i waited so long i can't send it to anyone in time for christmas.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

sendspace

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Seriously, post that thing on the blog.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

where do i upload stuff to blog?

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

sendspace

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I have been reading Prep. I don't ever want this book to end.

This is one of Kr's favorite books. I gave her the follow-up (The Man of My Dreams) for her birthday, but I don't think she liked it as much.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

PS Hi everyone. I was in Chesterton, Indiana, all weekend with the band on a songwriting retreat. We have several new songs now, in various stages of completion. And arguing was at a minimum, although not entirely absent, as yesterday afternoon will indicate. I also got really stoned on Saturday night, like top five ever, like curled up in a ball on the floor giggling.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Has Amanda seen the ILM thread on Pentangle yet?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I just quit my clerk job! I said, "I'm really sorry. I love working here!" and my boss said, "Obviously not enough!"

Ouch.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

ILM? I thought it did not exist.

Man, I miss the days of getting so stoned all I can do is giggle. The last time I tried that all I could do was cower in abject terror of... well, pretty much everything.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

No, she hasn't.

I had the worst nightmare last night, y'all. I can't shake it.

I second Jenny on giggling. I don't miss being paranoid though.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

holiday mix is on the blog.
what was the nightmare about?

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I could not fall asleep until approximately 4 A.M., two and one half hours before I had to get up. Needless to say, I am tired.

I had dreams last weekend that I stole books from the library and then gave them back as a donation. I was haunted all day by a sense of being a complete asshole. Kind of like how I feel when I smoke pot!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i was getting drunk txt msgs at quarter of three this morning but luckily i couldn't sleep and was awake to answer them. i think i slept about two hours last night.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

AND THEY WEREN'T FROM ME, FOR A CHANGE!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

true.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

the dream was about this total creep i dated in high school (irl) and it was horrible and lurid. let me just say that i was publicly humiliated at a grocery store, in the parking lot, and he was responsible. then he asked me how to "write a good paragraph" because apparently he was going to immortalize my public humilation and publish it. it was a real, honest-to-goodness nightmare.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

not that i mind drunk txts, they are probably my favorite part of owning a phone. sending, receiving, it's all so much fun.

er, xpost. that sounds really really horrible amanda.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

usually i'm relieved to wake up from nightmares, but this is spooking me good.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I hate that feeling. And that dream sounds truly awful.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Fortunately, it was not real.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Where are these magical less than $250 suits I hear so much about?

My friend got a vintage suit for his wedding over the weekend, at a place up here. It's from 1928 (seriously, it has a little inscription with the last guy it was tailored for and the date) and it only cost, like, $175.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

OH oh oh I saw a TV commercial for TWO suits for $150 at some discount men's store. They are probably made from craft felt, but when the first one disintegrates in the rain, you'll have a back up.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

ooh ooh and then you can pull my favorite old man joke:

Person 1 touches the shoulder of Person 2
Person 1: "Is that felt?"

Person 2: "I dunno.."

Person 1: "Now it is."

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Except it works better when the garment is NOT made of felt.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey word nerds, check out this book I'm getting for my dad for Xmas.

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/hfs.cgi/00/169948.ctl

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

(OK, maybe not word nerdery, but ...interesting applications of words)

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I just got an Amazon gift certificate over e-mail from "Pappy Cunn1ngh4m." I'm guessing it's a Christmas gift from my dad. I wonder if he realizes he sent it to me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a really good weekend. Lots of chillin, movie watching (Life Aquatic and Burden of Dreams), productive rehearsals and a good gig. All of a sudden D1gd0wn has like seven new songs.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 18 December 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG so tired...

I have to do a considerable amount of work on my paper tonight. I can't decide if I should take a nap for a couple hours in the hopes of being more productive or just power through until bedtime and go for volume production.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG, Hot Doug's is going to be open this weekend. There is no way that I am not going this Saturday.

I don't suppose anyone wants to get dinner or something on Friday? I have the day off so I might drive in early-ish.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan, do you play Friday night?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Friday and Saturday

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey! Maybe I'll take my parents to come see you!!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I have often hoped that MDD and my parents would be in Chicago at the same time so I could take everybody to the Green Mill to rock out to a brass band. The only foreseeable problem would be if the set start time was later than my parents' bedtime.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Great! I bet a lot of people there will have their parents with them.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I think we start at 9:00 on Fri and 8:00 on Saturday.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan, I may drag my little sister and some friends to the show, depending on their level of interest. I want to go, though!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I would come if I were in town!

Ok. Emergency question: Do any of you know of a language translation site (I need French to English) that works better than babblefish? IT IS URGENT! Thanks.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

http://humanities.uchicago.edu/orgs/ARTFL/forms_unrest/FR-ENG.html

?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Awesome, Dan. It will be a family-friendly show, we will have songs about Xmas and changing diapers.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 18 December 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks, Dan. It seems like that page only does a word at a time. I have a huge f'n email to translate. I got the gist of the message via babbelfish, but wanted to find something better.

I don't have much hope for my youngest sis's marriage. :-(

― Calico (calico), Monday, 18 December 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

"family-friendly" lol

(I should say that "little" = 25... so no need to keep it PG for her.)

xpost: Oh, sorry! I had just heard about that through the grapevine here at the U.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Did your sister send you a whole e-mail in French?

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 18 December 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't suppose anyone wants to get dinner or something on Friday? I have the day off so I might drive in early-ish.

Do you want to come to dinner with me at Glenn's Diner, for breakfast cereal and seafood specials?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 December 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

(It would be at 7 PM -- don't know what time you have to be at the Green Mill. I think I'm coming to the Saturday show, though.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 December 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

She forwarded an email from her husband to my other sis who forwarded it to me asking for a translation.

― Calico (calico), Monday, 18 December 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

John, that might work out pretty well, actually (I should be at the GM at 8:15ish).

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 18 December 2006 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey word nerds, check out this book I'm getting for my dad for Xmas.

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/hfs.cgi/00/169948.ctl

I am 100% sure that I saw the name "Bloody Dick Point" on a map of Montana when I was in my teens. It was in the SW part of the state. I can't find it now.

I wonder if it is one of those intentional "mistakes" that cartographers use to protect their maps from plagiarism?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

BTW, I love maps and I love words, so this book looks like fun.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin: I love this Christmas mix.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 18 December 2006 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

cool, you were able to unzip it ok?

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Monday, 18 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Works great.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 18 December 2006 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

BTW, I love maps and I love words, so this book looks like fun.

2x.

(Am I using that correctly?)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 December 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

cool, thought there might have been a problem for macs.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i would seriously marry darlene love's voice.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I AM AT OLD TIMERS

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

JESSE YOU SUCK I WANT TO BE AT THE BAR

(Am I using that correctly?)

Yes -- "Two times".

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I am not drinking. I just ate a Reuben and a Diet Coke. I'm in the dining room.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

cool, thought there might have been a problem for macs.

We can do zip files. It's not the stone age, man!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I couldn't open it. :(

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I am downloading the mix as I type this. Our internet seems really slow today.

Even if you're not drinking at the bar Jesse, you're still closer to it than I am. This has already been a long day and I'm probably going to be here late :(

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes -- "Two times".

I saw one of you say "4x" once. Is that like "me four"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, or "^^^^^^^^cosign" or whatever. Basically: "I agree with the above and want to repeat it to signify my agreeance."

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

John, did you read Prep ? It is really good. It's full of very reassuring, outcast-affirming Truths without trying to be lofty. I really like that Lee seems to be growing and learning without having big giant moments when everything changes. Her losing her virginity was great b/c while it was pushed on her, it was what she wanted the whole time.

That sounds really terrible.... But that's what's great about the book is that it really captures how something can be really positive and kind of wrong at the same time.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

DUDES DID YOU KNOW THAT WILL OLDHAM IS DOING STANDUP AT THE EMPTY BOTTLE??!?!? WTF. SOMEONE GO, AND REPORT BACK, PLZ. ALSO: TAPE IT>

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Why is he doing that at 3:30 in the afternoon on a Monday?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Standup comedy?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

w-w-what? has that guy lost his noodles?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Sayjal sent me pics of herself as a Macy's elf. I forwarded them to some of you. If you were left out and want to see her, lemme know.

They're funny and cute because she looks like a disgruntled elf.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Huh. 2 guys just came into Old Timers wearing T-shirts and flip-flops.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

send me disgruntled elf pics plz.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

What? No "Fuck Christmas" on yr comp, Kev? ;)

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

On second glance, they're more worn out elves than disgruntled, but whatever.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

"putains de ongles!"? "mushroom whores?"

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought Will Oldham's stand-up gig was at Weed's?

And no Jesse, I haven't read Prep, but your enthusiastic recommendation makes me want to borrow it from Kr now.

I liked The Rules of Attraction. The best part was a fleeting reference to The Secret History, which didn't even come out until five years later. (Bret Easton Ellis and Donna Tartt were friends at Bennington.) But I have a high tolerance for narratives about people being young and foolish.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

that's an unhappy elf.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked the fact that while this girl, a Midwesterner at an E. Coast prep school, felt like a big fat misfit, the preppies were rounded characters and not victimizers or spoiled rich kids. Of course you identify with the "poor" girl from South Bend, but you recognize that it is not the individual preppies who are making her feel alienated, but rather mostly her own consciousness of the class divide.

Someone read this so I won't just sit here talking to myself about it.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

courtney and I were talking about how we feel equal parts love and hate for the author (Curtis Sittenfeld is a female, by the way) for writing exactly how our minds work.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Loan me the book dude.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Huh, again. Some shit be going down in the bar part of OT's.... There's a lot of "We don't give a FUCK. We don't give a FUCK in America about blah blah blah" and some guy just stormed out cursing and another guy just stormed in and smacked himself on the face and now people are saying "Hey, buddy, you all right?" and the whole "don't give a FUCK" is still going on.

xpost--the CPL will loan it to you, just as they did for me.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I am mad b/c I had planned on finishing it during my break (now) but I left it at home.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost That'll never happen.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

you don't go to the library?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Nah. I tend to use My0pic as a library of sorts. Plus I'm not registered.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

one of my best friends is a librarianat the logan square branch of cpl dan. of course she's a children's librarian but whatevs. oh, and her band is playing at the bottle for free on jan 8. of course they're playing w/vee dee who were so bad last time i will likely bail early on the evening.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

you don't get U of C library privileges, Dan?

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, srsly, dude.

hey: anyone read house of leaves? It's genuinely scary!

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Bad Citizen Dan.

I'm so bored and tired. Going back to work feels like going to sit inside doing math homework while all the other kids get to go sledding. :(

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

xposts Oops! Forgot about that. Yeah, I do. I haven't been by there in a while, because generally when I get out of work I want to get away from here as fast as possible. :)

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I have never read House of Leaves. Is it as unaccessible as it sounds?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost (And that's the same reason I don't take advantage of the Ratner Center... I should really get over there instead of wasting $ paying for my gym.)

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I hear that. but it does have lots of books.

xpost to Dan

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

dude, the Ratner Center is the best! it's my favorite part of school. yes, I realize that is very sad.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Once I finish Prep I am going to read A Short History of the World because my knowledge of history is absolutely pathetic.

Actually, if anyone can recommend a history primer, that would be great. This seemed like a good choice, but if you've read something else that weighs in at around 400 pages and is very readable and helpful, I'd appreciate it.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

It's actually surprisingly accessible. Someone said on that graphic novel thread that it's like a graphic novel w/o pictures. And that's pretty much right. I think it's very accessible.

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

dude, the Ratner Center is the best! it's my favorite part of school. yes, I realize that is very sad.

Well, I'd be kind of bummed if you said the GSB or something like that.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha-ha: I went to the CPL and accidentally picked up another book with the title A Short History of the World and fortunately I thumbed through it before leaving with it and saw that the final sentence said something about "...and in the future more and more people will realize that Communism is synonymous with Progress." Oops.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG who put the Muppets/John Denver Christmas album on the blog? I am going to download that bitch tonight and have instant flashbacks to being four years old. AWESOME.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, forgot to say: Xmas mix = good, Otto!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

those fuckers at the GSB get free coffee and other items of luxury. I resent them.

but seriously, I love the way Ratner looks like a big ship that got marooned on campus.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

amanda put that muppets album up. the rolf song has me contemplating opening up my wrists.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha that's totally how I have described it in the past, like it's got a sail on it.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I figured it was Amanda. CANNOT WAIT.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

later chicago, be good to each other.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I just snoozed through Poltergeist 2 and now I'm going to finish making the changes to my paper while not really watching Amityville Horror 2. They were in the house less than five minutes and blood came out of the kitchen sink faucet.

Man, FEARnet is good for free terrible horror movies.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Whenever Kevin says, "Be good to each other," I get that Journey song stuck in my head. Ohhhhhhh be good to yourselves!!!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Possessed brother and non-possessed sister talking in A-ville Horror 2:

Sis: You know what's weird? I think mommy doesn't want to make love to daddy anymore. I heard her crying. *pause* Why are you looking at me like that?
Bro: Because you're beautiful. Let's get on the bed.

After some more conversation...
Bro: Take off your nightgown.
Sis: What?
Bro: Just for a second.
Sis: Well, okay. Just for a second!

This movie is so bad!!!

Oh god, he just handed her her panties. Now they are making out.

Now she is confessing having gone "on the way" to a priest!!!!!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link

WTF?? I have never seen this movie, and now I know why not.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 18 December 2006 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

"All the way," not "on the way." Duh.

Well, she explained a little - see they live in a possessed house and the brother is possessed and they did it to make God angry. Also Burt Young is the abuse father of the family who likes to beat his wife and four children with a belt.

Also the acting is terrible.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 23:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh no! Mom just got clued in to her oldest two kids' incestuous relationship! It's like Flowers in the Attic except they are all brunette and Satan is their roommate.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

LOLZ

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 18 December 2006 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

It should be said that the original Amityville Horror was a real turd, too, so it's not like they were bespoiling a classic here.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 18 December 2006 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, everybody's dead now. Movie over.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 00:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh wait no! There are still 30 minutes left! Well, this can only get better. I should have made some popcorn.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 00:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Or taken some Tums.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 01:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I've given you all the gift of Muppets and uncontrollable crying fits this Christmas season. It was not my intention to cause wrist-slicing, but if you had this record as a kid and can make it through the whole thing without crying, you're a bigger wo/man than I am.

Because I just had a Grade-A sobbing fit. I can't figure out why, either, I just did.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 02:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Sobbing triggered by the Muppets? Or just random sobbing? I woke up last night from a dream in which I was crying, and I was crying in real life.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 03:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Christmas sobbing is a tradition in my family.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 03:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I woke up last night from a dream in which I was crying, and I was crying in real life.

That's better than me. I woke up from a dream in which I was having sex, and I just had soft sheets in real life.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 03:36 (seventeen years ago) link

A quote by Oscar de la Hoya brought on full-fledged tears. WTF.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 03:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I have never ever had a wet dream.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 03:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Neither have I. Just really dirty ones. I jerk off too much to release in my sleep.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 03:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't even do that all that often. Sometimes I go for more than a week. Not many guys I know can claim anything close to the same.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 03:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Goddamit, this is a conversation about crying, not J/O.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 03:54 (seventeen years ago) link

haha Sorry.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 04:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Sobbing triggered by the Muppets?
What, this doesn't happen to you? The only thing that allows me to listen to that album in the company of other people is the sequencing. Mercifully, a tearjerker is followed by a funny most of the time. But I've been known to burst into tears randomly throughout the whole album.

I thought/believed Muppets were real for a surprisingly long time. They were like Germany or Japan -- I knew Germany and Japan existed, but I had never been there. Likewise, Muppets existed; I had just never seen one in person. But eventually I would, if I were in Muppet Country.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Can't stop here, this is Muppet Country.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't have sexy dreams, either, and a friend did once point out that you have to be repressed in some way for that kind of thing to break out in yr sleeping mind. And so.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I have sexy dreams, but not even in the height of teenaged hormone floods did I have an actual nocturnal emission.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't remember my dreams but i would hope if they were good ones i would remember.

i would like to dream about muppets tonight. not a sad muppet dream nor a sexy muppet dream, something like going grocery shopping with grover or having beers with dr. teeth or watching football with rolf. just doing something normal only with a muppet.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I work with a guy who is 39 who says he has them a couple times a week even at his age.

Wet dreams seem like kind of a hassle, what with all the mess.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Amanda, I tried to download the Muppets album, but the link went to a page that said "delete this file?"

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Wet dreams only happen if you're not having regular wa(n)king emissions. I think I've had ONE.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Also I cried last night after getting a backrub.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I am living anecdotal evidence to counter the claim that sexy dreams result from insufficient waking sex/masturbating.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Lucky!

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think anybody has made that claim. I have plenty of sexy dreams, they just never result in semen emanating from my penis.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

*peep*

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

John is wrong according to what I know of the matter. 39 y.o. guy gets it regularly. Another guy (24, with a gf) has them a lot too.

And I am living proof of the opposite as well--holding off does not result in them either. But yeh, you can get off on a regular basis and still have nocturnal emissions.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

So are wet dreams a function of physiology (too much semen), in which case there is no female analog? Or is it psychological, so that women have "wet dreams" if they orgasm in their sleep?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait. I don't want to talk about this on the internet. I have a paper to finish. Goodbye forever.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

"paper to finish"

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i find your use of the double entendre particularly distasteful this early in the morning. repent, sinner.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

something like going grocery shopping with grover or having beers with dr. teeth or watching football with rolf. just doing something normal only with a muppet.
That's what it's like in Muppet Country. You do normal things, only Muppets are there doing them with you. Sometimes a chicken flies through the air.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i want to move to muppet country.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

in my head i'm singing neil young's "sugar mountain" but replacing those words with "muppet country". still works.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

hahaha

Wait, now I need to hear that song to get it OUT OF MY HEAD

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

with the barkers and the colored balloons!

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

It's so noisy at the fair, but all your friends are there.
Just close your eyes and make believe, and you can be anywhere.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.muppetsonline.com/images/muppetbabiestheme.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I just read a really interesting series of articles about this photograph:

http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/123050/2133481/2148159/060912_CB_911pic.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

links to articles?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.slate.com/id/2149578/

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't want to link to it right away because I wanted to see what your first reaction to the photo is.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

First reaction: still kinda surreal that 9/11 was such a beautiful day.

Second reaction: if you can't tell that's Williamsburg from the angle, you can tell from the hipsters.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

It looks like it could have been photoshopped.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

It did not occur to me that they were sitting there not caring about what had happened, because THAT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I was going to suggest that the photo was altered, anyway.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

It's sort of fascinating, though, how much we rely on body language in a photo like this: if it only consisted of the two women on the right, there's no way anyone would've accused the onlookers of callousness, because they look watchful, alert. It's the fact that the one woman in the center is casually leaning back and the dude on the right is facing away from Manhattan that gives the potential impression of the whole party being all "la-dee-da" -- despite the fact that she's positioned like that to look at him and he's positioned like that to look at everyone else, and presumably when they're not talking to one another (i.e., many moments not captured in this photo), they're casting their eyes across the river.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

My biggest problem is that the bike appears to be floating.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Ummm... http://fflaneur.livejournal.com/29595.html

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

holy shit. glad he's okay.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

WOW

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

do not get shot ez k thnx

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

chalk up livejournal to sites blocked at work. what's up?

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

It's EZ's live journal:

So I almost got shot last night. I was standing in a bus shelter at the corner of Fulton and Damen around 9:30. I heard a little pop no louder than a firecracker from a passing car, and the middle of the three plexiglass panels at the back of the shelter shattered in a fraction of a second.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Here's the rest:

My first thought was whether the car - red, something like a Jeep Cherokee - would come back around. Second thought was whether to get off of Damen (no cabs or anything nearby), but Fulton is nothing but loading docks and chainlink fences, nowhere to go really.

After five or 10 minutes a cab finally came by. The meter in the cab wasn't working, the driver starts doing all different kinds of math, figuring out rates at a quarter-mile and how many blocks I wanted to go, and I didn't want to listen anymore, just got out on Damen a block or two north of North and gave him a ten. Tried calling two of my oldest and closest friends, Geoff and Sarah G., who were on the phone with each other so didn't pick up until I called back a few times. Geoff and I went to the Beat Kitchen, and I had a big plate of gumbo and a glass of Makers Mark and ice. There was what looked like a company holiday party going on in the back room, with a stage full of people singing some big finale. In the front bar, surf and Chet Atkins versions of Christmas songs. Closing up the tab, the bartender said my eyes looked normal again.

The good thing is this. On the way home, I was thinking about if the bullet had hit me, and thinking about if that had been the end. And I felt good about choices I had made and what I had done yesterday, last week, all this year, and more (something I don't always feel day by day). For one, I had just been auditioning actors - I'm directing this obscure, tough-to-get-a-handle-on short play - and had a great time working with the actors on solving the play, and it was an engaging productive fun time. After auditioning 50 actors for my play and others, the casting director herself offered to read the scene, and she did great work and got the part. A good moment, and a good story. And that's why I was down near Damen and Fulton to begin with - so if I'd gone, it would've been while on the job doing what I love.

Thought about a lot of good conversations and good times over the past day, month, year; thought about the good work done; felt good about the life I've lead, and glad still to be here.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

i would've taken getting shot last night.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

And of course it happened on the west side where there are no cabs!

See? It's not just about yuppified convenience. It's about life or death!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

that's not exactly what i think about when i think "the west side". that's less than a mile from my house.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

In my own personal geography, anything west of Ashland is the west side.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i think of anything west of central park drive, maybe kedzie, as the west side. but if you say "the west side" to me the mental image i get is the corner of pulaski & jackson, which is one of the scariest fucking neighborhoods i've ever been in.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

My very poorly calibrated internal compass goes super wonky once I hit about Western.

Speaking of the west side, fucking Orange Line derailed today: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/12/19/national/main2281320.shtml

I think we should start a serious letter writing campaign to all our elected officials. There has been a major CTA delay every goddamn day for the last couple weeks.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Pulaski and Jackson... is that North Lawndale?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

And of course it happened on the west side where there are no cabs!

See? It's not just about yuppified convenience. It's about life or death!

roffles

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, i guess that would be lawndale. it goes from kedzie to cicero, and 22nd st to the ike i think?

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

re: cta, kreusi has to go. between the brown line station closings fiasco, the (literal) DAILY MAJOR DELAYS, and the fact that more than 30% of the tracks in use are in designated "slow zones" because they are in such a state of disrepair that they're unsafe at normal speeds someone needs to be held responsible for this.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Hasn't the state underfunded maintainence projects? I'm woefully uninformed about the specifics of their budget woes. Seems like both sides probably share the blame.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

underfunded based on kruesi's expectations. the state says cta lacks fiscal responsibility. truth is probably somewhere in the middle. but all the same, the brown line and blue line projects are funded with federal money so there's no way the brown line stations should have been shuttered. ESPECIALLY after saying for two years leading up to the project that they wouldn't be closing stations. you think that would have been an influence in your decision to say, open a business or move into a new residence if you knew that the el station closest to you was going to be closed? dude has to go.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Kr went to Beans and Bagels (next to the Montrose stop) yesterday to get her usual bagel with roasted-red-pepper hummus, and they said that they're no longer offering the hummus: apparently their business has plummeted since the station closed and they've had to cut back on some of their offerings. I just hope they keep the fresh-squeezed orange juice. :(

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

See? CTA mismanagement has a devastating impact on people's lives!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to start a letter-writing campaign to get the operator of the ~8:40 Blue Line run to shut his yap for a change. Dude just talks and talks and talks. Isn't that what all the robot announcements are for, and do we really need to be scolded into "using all available doors" at every stop?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i had to wait almost a half hour for an outbound blue line yesterday. i was on the western/congress platform at 7:21 and the next one came at 7:48. since the advent of the "service improvement to the west side" morning rush trains are supposed to run every 6-8 minutes. obviously that's not happening. the most frustrating aspect is that there is no communication with the riders about the reason for the delay either. i've heard more announcements about delays to the redline while waiting on the platform than for the blue line. the last time i heard an announcement regarding the blue line was about 2 or 3 months ago when a car jumped the jersey barrier on the ike and wound up on the tracks.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

CTA mismanagement has a devastating impact on people's lives!

Certainly.

However, it must be said that I have been getting to work on time and even early for several days. The train has been moving for the entire route, sometimes even relatively quickly. I am convinced it's all a coincidence, and I will be an hour late any day now.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

this morning when we pulled up to forest park we sat for 4 minutes with the first SIX CARS at the platform and the last two still not there. we were waiting for "signals ahead". it was great to watch my bus pull away even though i was at the station.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait... you know what? I am totally misremembering. I got to work early Monday because I took a cab. I got to the platform, it was so crowded you could barely stand, and there wasn't a train in sight in any direction. So I said fuck it and hailed a cab on Broadway.

So basically forget everything I said in the previous post. The CTA is a constant nightmare.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Not for me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

the most frustrating aspect is that there is no communication with the riders about the reason for the delay either.

THIS is what the operators should be talking about, not "this is Damen coming in to Damen bound for Downtown and Forest Park PLEASE use all available doors coming in coming in" etc.

xpost: Yeah, I really have to say I have few complaints as of late, but I realize it's probably luck.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I was just innocently looking at pix on flickr when I tried "Winter Cats" and ended up not being able to turn away from a monitor full of destroyed feet - blood, toes, inside of feet...ARGHGHGHH!H!!!! YUCKYPANTS!!!!!

AURGUTHGLAJSKLDJFKSLA

Anyway, I'm in a great mood today, aside from knowing the kinds of images that will show up in my nightmares tonight.

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

what do winter cats have to do with mutilated feet?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

My co-worker Laura just told me that the guy in the cubicle next to her, an old curmudgeonly dude in his 60s, has been surreptitiously looking at hentai all day.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I have no clue, Kenan. It's someone's emergency room pix. THANKS FOR SHARING, DUDE!

Great. Now I have to go google hentai.

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG that might not be a good idea. At least GIS-wise...

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, hentai = anime p0rn

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

That would have been classic if she had, though. Maybe next time she could look up bukkake.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

and what's that?

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I need a vacation.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I looked it up, but just read about it on wiki.

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Where would you go, Jordan?

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm not jordan but i would go to an island somewhere, preferably in the south pacific, and disappear.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

America del Sur!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay. But I want to clean my apartment too.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I would go hiking in Yosemite.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I would have sex with all this white girls.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I just walked around the office with two pieces of pointy foamcore in my hands saying, "I... am... a... stabbing... robot..."

I think I may have had too much chocolate.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

You don't have to wait for vacation, you know.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i've been blowing my nose so much the past week that it hurts to touch my nose.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Ughhhhh I hate that

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

2x

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

'Cause it's not like you get to stop blowing it at that point.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Puffs Plus!

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

'Cause it's not like you get to stop blowing it at that point.

OTM.

xpost- i know, they stopped carrying puffs at the store here and have instead switched to something akin to .25 grit sandpaper.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

let's line up by kleenex brand and softness

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

so long chicago, don't take any wooden nickels.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Bbbbut all the wooden nickels I've ever been offered were redeemable for free drinks at the bar where they were offered to me.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Grrrr.

There's nothing like having a REAL, IMPORTANT GOAL or TASK to get you to do things like mop the floor, organize your closet, spackle and sand nail holes and re-hang the toilet paper holder, all of which I just did.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link

And put up lights in 2 closets and changed the light bulb in my stairwell.

(BTW, Courtney is a lurker on this ILX.)

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 02:18 (seventeen years ago) link

ADVICE PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.


I am just trying to move around some files on my computer, from my desktop to a new folder or from one folder to another, etc. The computer will not let me drag between locations and when I try to cut and paste is says, "Cannot move [filename]: Source and destination file names are the same," which is not at all fucking true. Help!

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 02:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Went away, ate a sandwich, read, and came back and the files moved around just fine. During this episode I also could not move any items around on the desktop, and I made sure it that the setting was not "align to grid" or anything like that.

You know what else?? At 6 this morning I was startled out of my sleep by the sound of my dustbuster running in the bathroom (where it hangs on the wall, unused since the week I returned from NO). It was hanging there, running, but with the switch set to "OFF." I left it on the base but flicked the switch to the "ON" position, and back to "OFF" and I haven't heard from it since. Kind of weird, huh?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 05:17 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.solocine.com/images/poltergeist.jpg

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 05:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Also: Windows does that shit from time to time. I'm using a beta of Vista right now, and it gets REAL squirrelly about once every two weeks. And then it stops whatever shenanigans suddenly and runs like a dream. No explaining it. I bet the people who wrote the damn thing couldn't explain it without a week of debugging time. At least with Vista, it sends automatic updates to Microsoft whenever it crashes, so I like to imagine that someone somewhere IS spending a week finding a solution to my problem. Leave me with my illusions, ok?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 05:53 (seventeen years ago) link

My good good good good friend 3rica is back in town this week only! (And one day next week when I bring her back from the U.P.) We just had drinks, hence my enthusiasm in posting. We decided about the only good thing about this Xmas is the reunions with friends from far away.

Also: Kenan, I don't know if you remember me talking about this (we were both pretty drunk) but we now have a file server running Ubuntu in our living room, and it's had its fair share of shenanigans too. Computers are stoopid.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 06:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't dick with ubuntu anywhere near as much as I has planned to. I use a Mac at work every day, so I don't miss having a "good" OS. I just use this computer as an internet terminal and constantly-running torrent server. And occasionally, I do work on it, but never heavy lifting.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 06:13 (seventeen years ago) link

GUESS WHO IS DONE WITH HER BIG PAPER? ME. ME IS DONE WITH HER BIG PAPER.

That's the end of this semester. ONE MORE SEMESTER AND THEN ME IS DONE WITH HER BIG LAW SCHOOL.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 06:14 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to self: which is probably a good argument FOR using ubuntu more, now that I think of it.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 06:14 (seventeen years ago) link

JENNY! YOU ARE A MOVER AND A SHAKER!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 06:15 (seventeen years ago) link

M@tt's Ubuntu machine = torrent server, "tivo", movie/music center, possible web server... The torrent program has a slick web interface, it's fucking great.

xxxpost: My congratulations, again!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 06:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh god I just uploaded it to the uploading place. I told Drunk Dan Martin on IM a minute ago that I feel like I'm giving a baby up for adoption. A 35 page baby with 150 footnotes that I totally hate.

Stupid fucking baby.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 06:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Kick the baby.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 06:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh god I just uploaded it to the uploading place.

Going to school in the 21st century must be crazy!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 06:21 (seventeen years ago) link

"Kick the baby" just made me laugh uncontrollably. It's clearly bed time. But I don't have any more homework to do! I want to stay up all night and NOT DO HOMEWORK! I'll be fine at work tomorrow; Jeff's parents gave me a Starbucks gift card for Christmas.

xpost - It totally is!!! When I was an undergrad back in the day I had a motherfucking typewriter, the kind with the little screen where you'd type one line at a time and then press enter and it would type it on the page. We had computer labs but only one really rich kid in my dorm had a laptop. We all got email my senior year but I couldn't figure out how to work it because it was Pine or some shit. Now I am in classes that have affiliated discussion boards. For discussing.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 06:24 (seventeen years ago) link

adoption is a loving option

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 06:24 (seventeen years ago) link

But abortion is so much more fun.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 06:27 (seventeen years ago) link

There you go again, making Ann Coulter all happy.

:)

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 06:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I fell asleep on the train today. That's a sign that I should be in bed. But I'm NOT! Because I have a half day tomorrow, and then office xmas party. And then Thursday, another half day, and then a special marketing department party. And then Friday will be blah, and probably a short day or a nothing day for everyone. My week is effectively over.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 06:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Greek food makes my pee smell funny. Like asparagus, but not. It's more like nutmeg.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 06:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe it's just CHRISTMAS PEE. My kidneys have the spirit.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 06:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I watched two episodes of House tonight -- the last two eps of last season, which I had not seen, because it's been a while since I've even owned a TV. (I do now. Pawn shops are good things.) How can they get away with showing that much gore on network TV? I mean really. It's bad enough that they show surgery, but a dude's eye popping out of his head? In graphic detail? Fucking EWW. And the scene where House intentionally kills a dude (it's a hallucination) by driving a robotic bone saw deep into him all the way up his torso from his belly button to his neck? Causing puffy guts to puff out of his hugely open body cavity? Holy hell. Don't show me that. It feels like fetishistic violence to me, way worse than someone being shot (though the episode had a lot of that, too), and way more potentially scarring to our precious children than, say, graphic fucking. So how is this on network television? I don't want to sound like an old crank, it's a real question. Does NO violence get censored anymore?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 06:59 (seventeen years ago) link

and way more potentially scarring to our precious children than, say, graphic fucking

You know, I take this back. I think either way, children will learn early on that the human body is a strange, fragile, temporal, animal thing. But I wish they'd balance it. Hey, kids! It's not all blood and guts! Some of it's semen and mucus, too! Yin and yang.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 07:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to edit myself again. Both of those things are filled with yang, and not a lot of yin.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 07:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Raw yang.

How's everybody doin'?

I'm eating a packet of cream of wheat at my desk. For some reason, these little packets always end up more like a small ball of cream of wheat than a bowl of the stuff. It's still good and warm though.

Way to go, Jenny!!!

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.somethingleet.com/temp/kittahs/1144622353.gif

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Cute!

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

aw.

but yay jenny for finishing your paper!

i dreamt i was in some sort of very dry post-apocalyptic world, hanging out in a bar. and they wouldn't serve me anything, which made me mad.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I dreamt that I fell asleep on a school cafeteria table and it was the most comfortable sleep of my life.

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Where can I download a free, easy music download program for my work computer? I want something similar to poisoned, but for windows. FIND IT! TELL ME!

I'm listening to Take On Me from the ILM 80s top hits.

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I just highlited my entire To Do list. I'm sure I'll get everything done that much faster now. ha ha

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah, what is Poisoned?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

WOO BOY not in a good mood this morning.

Packaged up presents for the inlaws (most of them) and faced with the possibility of going to the post office, gave up and went to UPS store. In and out in 10 min, no lines. The post office made me wait 40 min to pick up a package that they refused to try to redeliver to my house.

Now I am going to listen to Alice Cooper and Tom Petty and clean the house and eat cookies. F this mess.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Tom and Alice: Together At Last for Christmas

Bob and Carole and Tom and Alice: Fogies for the Holidays

Tom and Alice: Homely Dudes of Rock Sing The Hell out of Holiday Classix

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.rekylvinyl.no/shop/products/size3/1118768807_DSCF0002_5.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

There you go.

Also, I have an idea for the next Chicago thread;

Chicago: The few. The proud. The egg donors.

Re: egg donorship
Have you noticed that the price went up? It used to be five grand, now it's seven. Have you also noticed that the numeral 7 is in bold type on those ads on the train? Have you noticed the smug look on the face of the blond girl on the left who's clearly thinking, "Yeah. I waited to be an egg donor and got two gees more than you did, hasty bitches."

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Amanda, You are awesome. Also, WHAT KIND OF COOKIES??

John, Poisoned is a music/file sharing program for the mac. You were probably joking though. This is one of those things you know about and I don't.

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

No, I've never heard of it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm also the guy who is still more or less in the dark about torrents, bit or otherwise, and who has to rely on your boyfriend to help me transfer cassettes to mp3, so this shouldn't be too surprising.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Cherry-almond butter cookies with a chocolate chip on top. They're alright, but I think went a little overboard on the almond paste.

I've never heard of Poisoned either.

In other news, I had to fail three students this term! Three! One of them was caught by surprise and tried to challenge me but I confronted him with his work and he (miraculously) realized that someone who completes less than 60% of the work for the class should probably not receive a passing grade. Oh well. Sorry, kid.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Today I get to:

a) fact-check biographies on Shakira, Albert Pujols, and maybe Tony Shalhoub,

b) hobnob with work-friends at a potluck that will include my co-worker Laura's delicious southwestern tempeh, and then

c) get drunk on Glogg.

BEST DAY OF WORK EVER

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

In about an hour: bowling and beer.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

i forgot i need to buy a gift for my 6 month old nephew/godson. anyone have any suggestions? please let me know as i need to go to a meeting in 15 minutes and will need to purchase said gift from amazon IMMEDIATELY after getting out of the meeting.

thanks kids.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

You can't go wrong with a well-placed Dr. Seuss book, always my fall-back kid gift.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think the kid can read.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

In about an hour: bowling and beer.

BOWLING?? OK you win.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

sassy caterpillar mobile with suction arm
http://www.amazon.com/Sassy-Caterpillar-Mobile-Suction-Arm/dp/B00009QMQV/sr=8-21/qid=1166633493/ref=sr_1_21/105-8918320-2548437?ie=UTF8&s=hpc

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

But someone can read to the kid, right?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

A subcontractor just brought in wine and spa gift certificates to three of my coworkers. It's upsetting. This happened last year too. These coworkers get all the good crap, even though I work just as hard behind the scenes. I know it's dumb because the subcontractors work one on one with my coworkers out in the field, not me, and they can't just buy everyone presents, but it's still irksome. It's especially annoying when they come in the front door and announce to me they are here to give presents to my coworkers, who I then need to buzz on the phone with the great news. BAH HUMBUG! WHERE IS MY SPA CERTIFICATE?

End of rant.

Get your nephew a monkey.

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd just like to restate I got a fucking LUGGAGE TAG from work for xmas. And $100 worth of books.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Fuck a font tag

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I got nothing for Christmas from my employers. How's that? NADA.

Hey I think we're going to Jordan's show on Sat., if anyone is totally psyched to MEET MY PARENTS.
And I know you all are.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

BOWLING?? OK you win.

haha I know! Best Christmas party venue ever.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Still workin' on going to the Friday show... dinner at Jin Ju beforehand, for sure.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm psyched. John, I'm still working out my Friday plans but what is the name of that restaurant again?

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

(what/where is Jin Ju?)

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

All I know is that I'm going to try and avoid stuffing myself at Fiesta Mexicana yet again.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Jin Ju = Korean BBQ as far as I know, @ Clark/Foster or thereabouts. I've got all these peeps coming through town on the way home for Xmas, and we're all going out for dinner on Friday. If there is sufficent motivation among us, some or all will head over to the Green Mill afterwards.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 18:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Rumor has it that I get a Cross pen for Christmas from work BUT I quit on Monday and then didn't go to the work party yesterday so maybe I don't get one. That is okay though - I don't like Cross pens. They are too skinny and heavy to be nice to write with and too ubiquitous to signify lawyerly professionalism.

I spent about an hour this morning trying to buy magazines to read on the plan tomorrow but most loop booksellers and newstands don't carry what I want to read. Hmph.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, the Borders on State probably did but the line was disgustingly long and I just can't wait in it, on principle.

I did get to watch ABC7 do the news, though!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I like Jin Ju. I wonder if the "best waiter in Chicago" (per Chicago magazine) still works there, because I saw him at Simon's the other night. I forget his name. Jeff or Jenny or Jesse would probably know. He looks like Mr. Clean.

Jordan -- the restaurant is Glenn's Diner at 1820 W. Montrose. I'll be there at 7, it'll be a party of 4 to 6 folks.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

i get nothing for the holidays at work. there can't be any parties or sanctioned gift giving here anyway.

amanda, i totally would've bought that thing you linked to but it wouldn't arrive on time even with 1 day shipping so i found something else somewhere else. thanks for the suggestion though, i truly do appreciate it.

is there anything going on this weekend? i figure i'm probably going on a four day bender if i can find a bar open on xmas day.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, Jordan, let me know if you're definitely coming, because I'm going to make a reservation tomorrow. I will say, though: Kr might not come (she's still deciding), and I don't think you'll know anyone else.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

John, are there good veg. options at Jin Ju? My sister doesn't eat teh meats.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes! There are a some delicious vegetarian offerings at Jin Ju. There's one that's a bowl of rice and vegetables with an egg on top and you mix it all up and it's great. It's not Bi Bim Bap because that has beef in it, but it's the same principle.

xpost - that waiter worked at Simon's and Svea for awhile and then got fired, I think! Or at least I seem to recall him telling me that. But I was probably drunk, so who knows. His name is Sh@ne.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay John. I should probably say no, since I don't know if I'm giving someone a ride yet. I would be fine wandering around or reading at a coffeeshop anyway.

His name is Sh@ne.

Of course it is.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, Sh@ne. He was behind the bar at Simon's no more than two weeks ago.

And Jenny is teh correct about vegetarian offerings. This is what I get whenever I go:

San Chae Bi Bim Bap rice topped with bean sprouts, spinach, carrots, shitake mushrooms, shredded raddish, sweet potato stems, red leaf lettuce, fried egg and a spicy red pepper pastre sauec. soybean paste soup served on the side

Word, Jordan. No prob.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

What do you wanna read, Jenny?

We went to the library last night to get books for the train. I will be reading about vanilla and a mystery novel involving orchid enthusiasts.

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

My holy grail magazine is Off Our Backs because there's an article in the current about women in the loony fundamentalist "Quiverfull" movement written by a blogger that I like, but the odds of me finding that anywhere besides Women and Children First are pretty slim, I realize. I thought Unabridged might have it, but they don't. The other one I want is Harper's and I should be able to find that anywhere!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

San Chae Bi Bim! That's it. I highly recommend it. Super delicious.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

DO you guys know that you can look at the menu for pretty much every restaurant in Chicago at Menupages.com? Well, you can.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

waht is quiverfull

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Menupages can be useful but I have seen some pretty glaring errors in their menus. Mostly spelling-related, but still.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

http://static.flickr.com/45/175866636_d86626afc4.jpg

More info.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, what the farg you talkin about? is that like lady archers for sexual equality?

"our quivers are full and our arrows are pointed at the patriarchy"

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

oops. quite the opposite i guess. their quivers are full of eggs.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

oops. quite the opposite i guess. their quivers are full of eggsBLESSINGS FROM GOD.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

That photo looks creepily like a lot of the fundie familes (apostolic lutheran) from where I grew up, except they don't all have blond hair. The biggest one I ever heard of had 24 chilluns. TWENTY FOUR

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

The woman in that photo was actually giving birth as the picture was being taken. They didn't notice until they were packing up to leave.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

haha

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Sounds like Orthodox Jews.

Btw I watched my replacement copy of Trembling before G-d last night. It was very good, if not quite as revelatory as I hoped.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

http://womensspace.wordpress.com/

That's the blogger who wrote the article. She was a Quiverfull mom and has eleven kids. She used to run a fairly popular homeschooling magazine. After a harrowing escape from an abusive husband she was excommunicated by the church and started writing feminist articles for a variety of publications. She seems like a really interesting person. Too bad I can't get up to A-ville to Women & Children First before we leave for DE.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Word on the streets is that my uncle only had relations with my aunt three times, resulting in their three children. Is that quiverfull?

I got my family Christmas cards last night. The annual family letters were depressing. The only 'godsend' was that no one mentioned Christ's blood this year. They must have just forgotten.

One family's letters always begin with something like, "It has been another trying year for our family, full of challenges and sadness, but the Lord is with us still." The other family writes things like, "We are so blessed that both of our sons are Christians! And we are doubly blessed that they have found wonderful, loving Christian wives! The Lord provideth!..."

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I prefer the latter, I guess.

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that quiverfull?

My understanding is that quiverfull would require them to have as much sex as is necessary to keep the kids constantly coming until the woman hits menopause.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

My understanding is that quiverfull would require them to have as much sex as is necessary to keep the kids constantly coming until the woman hits menopause.

holy crap, time to bust out one of my favorite sayings... "IT'S A VAGINA, NOT A CLOWN CAR!"

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

If only Flickr was not blocked for you at work you would see that we've already covered that one.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

lol I was just going to say that

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

aw fudge.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

But still, it was Kevin's invocation of the phrase that gave me the mental image of a vagina as one of those magician tricks where the continuous string of handkerchiefs is pulled out of the guy's sleeve. Priceless.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Didn't someone post a YouTube of a woman doing exactly that at the Juste Pour Rire festival?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Though I've never seen or heard of it until now, considering this is the internets, I'm going to say "yes".

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

And you would be right.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i am crashing hard into my post-lunch coma, the 16 ounces of coffee is not helping. i would seriously pay $100 to go sleep in a bed right now.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

The video was this woman pulling a scarf from a piece of clothing and then taking it off until she got down to nothing and then she pulled a scarf out of her va-jay-jay. It was pretty cool. I saw it on Metafilter where the thread immediately devolved into a discussion about whether the woman was attractive enough to dare to take her clothes off in public.

xpost - that's it!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

This just makes me more pissed no-one made it to the Fourth of July flag-out-of-the-ass thing.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Psalm 127:3-5

Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD,
And the fruit of the womb is his reward.
As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man;
So are children of the youth.
Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them

"Children of the youth"... Does this advocate teen pregnancy?

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

This just makes me more pissed no-one made it to the Fourth of July flag-out-of-the-ass thing.

I know! Me, too.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Have fun on your trip if I don't talk to you before you leave, Jenny!

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, thanks! Same to you!

I am all kinds of ready for a 12/28 Thirsty Thursday if anybody has any post-holiday energy left. I miss my pals!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, yes, and yes. I will be rolling back into town that day.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh guess what? I agreed to go to CHURCH with my mother on Christmas Eve. I haven't been to church for anything other than a wedding in yeeeeeaaars. I think halfway through the sermon I should stand up and throw the hymnal down and yell, "Man, this is bullshit!" and then leave.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

We aren't getting back until late on the 30th, but we need New Years plans. We should create some sort of wacky New Years tradition.

Have fun with that!

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

nye i'm going to the bottle. i think i could easily be talked into TT on the 28th. in fact i think i just was talked into TT on the 28th.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, we just had a work "Naugthy/Nice" Xmas drawing. I got a $50 gift certificate for C35!

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

NYE is so tough. Right about now I am ready for ANYTHING but by the time the 31st rolls around I just want to hide from people and go to bed by 10.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

What is C35?

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

the restaurant where I work

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

the "Naugthy" bag was for over-21 people, the "Nice" for the under-21ers.

Other gifts: a bottle of ketchup, a magnum of good Chardonnay, fifths of vodka, tequila, Hennessey.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, I am a dumbnuts.

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

And free stays at the Sheraton, Hilton, and Hotel Burnh@m.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

So a restaurant gift certificate is "naughty"?

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, depends on what you do with it.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

By that I meant that you could buy booze--not, say, stick it in your cooze.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

That's a lot of good stuff right THAR!

― Calico (calico), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

JENNY and KENAN:

I have your belongings! I want to give them back. let's make this happen. Also, I want to see Kenan's apt.

Oh, and Kenan: did you by chance take with you a box filled with my winter clothes? (Gap jacket, knit gloves, scarves, sweater.) It is not longer present, chez moi.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

What belongings? If you want to give things back, you have to come to our apt. tonight.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

later chicago, keep yourselves safe.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, so as I said to Jenny on GIM: "EEEEEEEEEEEEEK!"

I was on the train this morning, on the phone when I saw a woman who I thought was a coworker. I nodded, waved and gave her a big exaggerated facial expression. She did not respond, and I realized that she was not a coworker, but someone who could be her sister.

Since we're in a big city, I thought I would probably never see her again, but now here I sit in Argo tea and she's standing right in front of me and she gave me a second glance.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, what he said was:

Jesse: EEEK
EEEEEK
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
EEEEEEEEEEEK
EEK
EEEEEEEek
EEEEEEEEEEK
EEEEEEEEEEK
eeek
ek

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!

OMG, EEEEEEEEEEEEEK!

OMG: EEEEEEEEEEK; EEEEEEEEEEEEEK!

(EEEEEEEEEK!)

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

did you by chance take with you a box filled with my winter clothes?

I'd have noticed that. I have no boxes. I do have a sweater of yours, and The Office on DVD, and a couple other things. Oh, the blanket. I have a blanket.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I totally snuck out of the Xmas party to keep from having to do cleanup bullshit. Bowling was way fun, though. I bowled better than I ever have before. 124!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link

And my work buddy Shannon sang in the lounge area. (This was at Lucky Strike inside the AMC complex on Illinois -- you know that one? Nice place.) Anyway, she has a beautiful Diana Krall-like jazz singing voice. I kept requesting sad songs. I felt that her voice was being wasted on "Frosty the Snowman" and other such pap. I wanted her to do "Mood Indigo," but she wouldn't. I did get a nice slow version of "But Not For Me" out of her, though.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I went to bed late last night and Jeff was already asleep, all curled up and adorable and snoozing away and I got into bed to read for a few minutes and I was reading and the house was quiet and Jeff was sleeping like a lamb and then he yelled: JACKBALLS! and then he kept on sleeping.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

DRUNK @ WORK

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

APPLAUSE

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Awww I got my Cross pen and pencil set along with a cute little speech about how great lawyers need to either play golf, drink scotch, or have a cross pen and pencil set and the boss doesn't play golf or drink scotch but he does have a cross pen and he wants me to be a great lawyer. It was totally canned but really sweet.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

JACKBALLS!?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I believe this should be a new experimental curse, in the tradition of "bitchcakes." Start dropping it into conversation and see if it catches on.

"So then he says to me, 'No way,' really rude. And I went jackballs on him."

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Sometimes I talk in my sleep and wake myself up. I never remember what I was saying, though.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

A STEADY DIET OF GLOGG FOR 2 HOURS GOES FAR, EH?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link

heh.

I had two beers.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

They were free, though, so they were extra delicious.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Apparently we are released from work at 2 on Friday, which is good as I have yet to obtain several important Xmas presents.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 20 December 2006 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I have had the chance to hear a lot of Xmas songs lately and I have been thinkning:

I SAW MOMMY KISSING SANTA CLAUSE.

A kid sees her mother kissing and tickling Father Christmas. The kid's father must be resigned to being a cuckold or have a strange sense of humor if he would have "a laugh" about seeing his getting cozy with a fat bearded man underneath the mistletoe.

RUDOLPH
This song has always bugged the shit out of me. A reindeer is born looking different from his peers, they reject him because of it and the big man in charge condones it all. But suddenly he comes in handy and everyone changes their minds and Rudolph is all, "Yes, Masssa, I'd a-luv tah guide yall's sleigh tonight!"

I heard a version at work that had a verse that said something about, "Rudolph said, 'No! I ain't havin' none of this!'"

LITTLE DRUMMER BOY

My favorite Xmas song, when it's done very traditionally and simply. The lines "I played my best for him...I played my drum for him" brings tears to my eyes. Not that that's hard or anything, but still. It's moving for me to imagine the LDB putting doing the very best he can and being all like a little toddler saying "I played my drum for him!"

CAROL OF THE BELLS

Love it. I don't know if I'm stating it correctly, but it's all verses I think. There is no chorus, but there is a lot of repition in the sounds until the really great words at the end

"Merry, merry, merry, merry Christmas,
Merry, merry, merry, merry Christmas,
On on they send,
on without end,
their joyful tone to every home
Dong Ding dong ding, dong Bong."

AVE MARIA

I put this on my iPod sometimes at all times of the year. It's just plain good.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 06:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I SAW MOMMY KISSING SANTA CLAUSE

Oops.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 06:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Daddy was dressed up as Santa Clause, ding ding.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:00 (seventeen years ago) link

But as a gay you wouldn't understand the importance of cosplay to family values.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:02 (seventeen years ago) link

What's freaks me out about that song is that the kid is traumatized by seeing his mom make out with who he thinks is another man, and yet... he doesn't sound upset enough.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

crazy horrible migraine
paretns coming today

wtf is "cosplay"?!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

COStume PLAY<

What's freaks me out about that song is that the kid is traumatized by seeing his mom make out with who he thinks is another man, and yet... he doesn't sound upset enough.

That's what I was getting at. (The renditions I've heard have been females singing, and one sounds like Baby Jane at her most deranged.)

Jenny, re-read what I said, re-engage the old thinker for a minute, and then STFU.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Oooh. I see. I'm not up on the lingo. Big surprise. That sounds too close to Cosby to be appealing to me. "Dressing up" is one more syllable and does not conjure up the ur-dad.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I was just lying in bed chuckling about the stunts my co-worker pulls. He is the 50-something homo who is virulently racist, but a jokester and pretty funny.

The one that I was remembering was that he hung mistletoe above the urinals at the restaurant. The gen. manager was *furious*.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.somethingleet.com/temp/kittahs/stfucat.jpg

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

He's about 250 lb, baaaad teeth, pretty rough, mottled skin, cropped, balding head. And no matter how many guests are around--in a supposedly fine-dining atmosphere--he will lift a corner of his apron, loudly imitate Heidi Klum from Project Runway, and boldly skip across the dining room. Sometimes he looks bored/angry and acts like a model on the catwalk.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I cunt stop laughing.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

speaking of mistletoe, it's almost time for me to break out the mistletoe belt buckle. maybe it will work THIS year!

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Classy!

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

You know how you can tell I'm gay? I lurv Bette Davis.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

chicago, if the sun doesn't come out soon i think i'm going to throw myself in front of an el train. i think i need to start mega-dosing vitamin d or something because all i want to do is sleep all the time and i can't seem to make myself care about anything.

i fucking HATE the winter, i need to go somewhere warm. and light.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I would do very well in Seattle because I really like this weather. Not at all a big fan of silly, vapid springtime (and way less so of summer.)

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Please. There is no better smell on earth than that of fresh, recently thawed mud.

Which reminds me -- I got my shipment from the Alchemical Laboratory of Scents and my favorite favorite one smells like dirt + white flowers. I love it. It's called DEATH CAP.
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not that i want to line up according to our favorite season AGAIN

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, except for baking bread, sauteeing onions and cookies. Those smells are pretty good too.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

PS Thank you Imitrex for helping me with headache.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

the lack of sunlight kills me every year but moreso this year. i'm in the midst of a horrible horrible stretch right now and i'm pretty desperate to get out of town.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

My favorite sample scent from the Lab is King of Hearts, which I'm wearing today. Rosewood and black cherry with white musk, red rose, red musk and a spark of lavender. I want to smell more more more scents. My only regret is that perhaps I should have chosen scents from different categories instead of just from two, but there is still a decent variety.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost-- that smell sounds great! (I read DEATH CAMP and had a moment of wondering if maybe the Alchemical folks weren't going a little far with the whole gothy-dark-beauty thing by making allusions to concentration camps.)


Smells I like:

Dirt
coconut
the smell of clean, fresh sweat
rain

My dumb ex hated the smell of rain, something that I could never understand. How can you actually HATE that smell? He too was not a fan of sunny days, but only because he was too fabulous to be out during sunlit hours. He had blackout curtains on his windows and would put of blankets on my windows when he stayed over. He even tacked up a quilt over the bathroom skylight. Then he and his DJ friends would hang out talking about "I just don't understand how anyone can work a day job" like most people would say "I don't understand how anyone can sell heroin to middleschoolers."

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Another favorite smell:

"Sparkling Snow" from Glade. I stock up on cans of this during the holidays. Also, pine-scented candles.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link


http://www.fuckthiswebsite.com/Images/fuck_34.gif

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevotto, I thought you were heading south soon (I remember you mentioning making plane reservations), or was I mistaken?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.fuckthiswebsite.com/Images/fuck_41.gif

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, hi everyone. I am staying home this morning waiting for my friend to ride in from the airport. I'm also trying to motivate myself to clean the bathroom while I'm waiting, but so far have not had any luck with that.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I like winter, because I hate sweating.

I like early spring, because of cool, breezy days. And I like outdoor activities.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

going to memphis but not for another 4 weeks. four weeks from this weekend.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

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― Jeff... (Jeff...), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha-ha.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I like winter, because I hate sweating.

2000x

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

All it takes to get me cleaning the bathroom is the prospect of writing a cover letter or doing homework when I'm in school.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Oooh Sarah, that one sounds goooood. I am officially an Alchemy Lab addict. It didn't take much. I am saving one of the scents to take with me to UK so I can remember the trip when I smell it.

Do you (chilx) think customs/Homelnd Sec. will confiscate my little vial of perfume if it has a weird name?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Only if it's bigger than what, 3oz.? I don't think the name will have any effect.

Make sure it's all in a ziploc bag too if you're carrying it on. If you're checking the bag none of this matters.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

All it takes to get me cleaning the bathroom is the prospect of writing a cover letter or doing homework when I'm in school.

otm!

hi Chicago. I'm hanging out at Midway airport all day because I missed my flight home! any of y'all flying away for the holidays: don't be an idiot like me; arrive more than an hour early for your flights.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

You know how you can tell I'm gay? I lurv Bette Davis.

That is also how you can tell I'm gay. I have a copy of All About Eve displayed prominently atop my television as we speak.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i think i need to start mega-dosing vitamin d or something

2x, or get a happy lamp. Don't make me post those Achewood strips again.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

xp - Ok, cool. It's in a tiny little vial. If only I had 3 oz. of this intoxicating elixir.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I want more of the one I want on, but also I want to smell ALL the scents, so I should just wait and then order more (different) samples in a few months.

I love the Stars song Death is Death. I keep it singing it this morning.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I want more of the one I want on
Yo soy loco from too much coffee this morning.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I keep it singing it

You know what other song I'm loving right now? Here it Goes Again by Ok Go.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

testing

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

FOUR DAY WEEKEEEEENNNNNND

It starts with a rock show tonight and I'm going to keep the drink, food, and tunes rolling until Tuesday.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Niiicceee.

I think maybe I'll drink around my family this Christmas, just to mix things up a bit.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, I'm not complaining about a lack of presents any more. Two vendors have given me bottles of wine, one gave me chocolates, and one coworker gave me the wine & champagne out of one of her gift baskets. Then just now one of my coworkers, this guy who is NEVER in the office, gave me a $50 gift certificate to Aldo! Plus, I've got that $150 gift card for Nike. I'm feeling pretty set.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa. There are no presents here, no Secret Santa, no Chsistmas bonuses, nothing. I've gotten free lunch all week, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

towga sent me something so i'd have something to open on xmas day. and she also screwed up on the shipping so the toaster she ordered for work is also coming to me. she said she got amazon to send her one for free so i could keep the toaster but i don't need it. anyone need a toaster?

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, I've been training classes most of the week and have been grubbling on free pastries and lots of Thanksgiving-style free lunch food.

Btw it looks like we've graduated from the Heart o' Chicago motel and are staying at the Embassy Suites on State & Ohio. Walking distance to Ashkenaz?!

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah! I have Queen of Hearts and I don't like it very much - too sweet. I will give it to you if you like it.

To continue a related email convo w/ Amanda on ILX - I tried wearing it to see if it worked magic with my body chemistry but no go. I seem to do best with spicy, foody smells or things that other people say smell like old lady perfume (my favorite mass market perfume EVER is Cinnabar by Este Lauder). Superduper florals might smell fine but they give me a headache. Super sweet smells just smell like I spilled something on myself.

The White Rabbit oil, without a doubt, is my favorite smell. It smells like food and spice and powdery old ladies all at once.

In summation, I also want to buy samples. Then we can have a smellin' party!

Also: Amanda, I am glad you stopped your migraine. I cannot even imagine how dreadful that would be, especially when you have to do other things like talk to people or breathe.

Also: HS, we're flying today and will heed your warning! Like I need any prompting to leave work early.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Free lunch sounds wonderful too. Niiiice.

Check this out. Nick tracked his present for my mom, and it was delivered to our house back on Dec 8th, which means it was stolen. :-(

Yeah, horseshoe. That sucks being stuck at the airport!

Jenny & Amanda, we DEF need a smelling party. Also we could switch out less favorite smells perhaps.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 21 December 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

So, do you people know about Robin Thicke, Allen Thicke's son? He is soulful. We are listening to his album at work right now and it's pretty good.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i do not know about robin thicke. but i do know where i'll be tonight and if anyone is still in town, come on out and join me for the snow angels at the bob inn.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

i thought this would be a pullapartgirl thread

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Robin Thicke!! I need to buy his new-ish record.

Haha I also thought that would be a Jenny thread, I don't even have to click the link to know which one it is.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

So in reading about orchids, it seems like just about every orchid fanatic/collector/seller is also into bromeliads, at least to some extent. So I've been wondering what those were and I just discovered on flickr that I have one on my desk at work that belongs to a coworker! It looks like one of these.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I am loving this newish record, too.

Well I guess it's flattering that you think of me when you hear "social justice."

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah - pretty! I've enjoyed your orchid posts on your LJ, too. When are you going to try and grow orchids yourself?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin, maybe you could go to a tanning salon or something. Does that work for SAD? If you become too depressed to finish biting through your toast, call one of us and we'll come pull it off your teeth.

I'm like Jesse. I get reverse SAD and get more depressed during the hot, stupid, horrible summer. I'm okay with spring on its own except that it means that hot, stupid, horrible summer is just around the corner.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I was thinking of getting a cheapie one some time after the holidays. I'm kind of scared because I tend to kill plants, but most of my houseplants have been doing ok for a few years now, so maybe not all hope is lost. I might have to keep it at work so Toons won't eat it, unless I build some sort of shelf in the back window where she can't get to it.

I don't mind sweating a few months out of the year. It feels cleansing. Also, it's nice to get a little dirty sometimes. You appreciate showers more, for starters.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

fuck, i just realized i forgot to get somone their xmas gift and now i have to go to CRATE AND FUCKING BARREL ON MICHIGAN AVE AT 5:45 THIS EVENING TO GET IT.

fuck me in the goat ass.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I went to Crate and Barrel last night to see if I was inspired by anything there as a potential gift idea but came up empty, since I have no idea if people have glass pitchers already or if they even want them. Then I went to Borders and found presents for everyone in my immediate family.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

This Robin Thicke business sounds like the time I tried to convince everyone I knew in college that Jimmy Smits had a Latin rock album and that it was "actually kinda good." I smell prank.

Why do you have to go to crate and barrel?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

the time I tried to convince everyone I knew in college that Jimmy Smits had a Latin rock album and that it was "actually kinda good."

hahahaha!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Why do you have to go to crate and barrel?

that's where the gift i was planning to get her are. which originally were going to be house warming gifts then birthday presents but i wound up getting something else for both of those. anyway, it's actually a somewhat thoughtful gift that i know she wants, needs, and will use. and since she's leaving for north carolina tomorrow we're exchanging presents tonight pre-show.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought the Robin Thicke thing was a joke, too, but it's not! He even opened for John Legend recently.

Hey, so we went to Chicago Diner last night. The service was fine (I think we got lucky) and the food was good. We ordered chips and guac as an app but it was RAW chips and guac - they made the chips by dolloping corn goo onto a tray and dehydrating it. They tasted fine, but then we finished those so she brought us some regular fried corn chips and it was like, "OH that's what this is supposed to taste like!"

Anyway, I think being a raw foodist would be very depressing.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

The coworker who gave me the Aldo card just handed me a glass of wine. If everyone in the office is drinking, this could make for an interesting afternoon.

Those chips sound weird.

Nick and I ate at the Handlebar the other night and I was wondering why we don't go there more often. We both got the three sides plate, and I got us chips & dips for an app.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

"Shooter" was my summer jam last year

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

HI KIDS I WAS IN CHICAGO FOR ONE HOUR YESTERDAY. Now I am on le other side of le lake. Getting in trouble for stuff not-done at work. HAAAAAAY.

Sarah, enjoy yr presents! We get lots of edible stuff in my dept but everyone's on a diet so we try to spread the sugary, buttery cheer around the offices. The champagne's all mine, tho.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 21 December 2006 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought you would appreciate that, John. It was a very successful prank. Unfortch, Meloy-as-Horshack has not had legs.

Laurel! SOrry I missed your txt. I was at the goddamned grocery store when i finally saw it.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The chips were kind of sweet and not very crunchy and they stuck in my teeth like craaaazy but the taste was okay. If those were the only chips I could ever eat, I would sit at home in the dark eating dehydrated corn chips and crying.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i like handlebar too, i'm not sure why i don't go there more often as well now that i think about it.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

BEGIN RANT
When I went to UBS for my tutoring dude I overheard some people actually COMPLAINING that there was a mountain of chocolate in their office. They said some shit about it being Carb Mountain and I wanted to remind them that there are plenty of people in the world -- and one in that elevator -- who would enjoy a piece of that mountain. People complaining about the hardship of sweets/treats in their office can zip it the fuck up.
/RANT

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

It is kind of annoying though, like I'm trying to stay in shape but I have absolutely no self-control when it comes to food placed it front of me.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Boo hoo.

Hey how much is the cover for your band?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd prefer to have the starving third world get most of the food that gets placed in front of me! I don't need that much food to live!

It's ten bucks. I wish I could put you on the list but we only get one slot per person, and I gave mine up because some dudes have lots of out-of-town family coming to the show.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I've actually always been mildly disappointed whenever I go to Handlebar. Like it's decent enough but never outstanding.

I haven't been to Chicago Diner in a coon's age. I generally think other veggie restaurants do the fake-meat thing better, but their gazpacho is the best I've ever had.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

carb mountain=happiest mountain evah!

I am feeling much better about being stuck at the airport after 2 bloody marys (consumed at 10am, special airport rules).

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

re: food
there is a time of year when you give in to The Plenty and this is it.

re: cover
oh, that's fine! i'm glad to support you and am very thankful that you will provide entertainment for my parents, because i had no idea what to do with them. they're excited!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

THIS IS IT
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000025JQ.01._PE32_.Kenny-Loggins-Alive._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I am going to drink on that motherfucking plane tonight. Yes indeedy!

My sudden, sharp rise in incidental alcohol consumption (like, oh I will watch some TV. And drink a beer! or I've got to pack, I think I'll drink a beer!) since I finished finals suggests that I might actually end up being one of those proverbial alcoholic attorneys.

GOD THAT COVER.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Another rumor I like to perpetuate:
Kenny Loggins got married in the nude

(although I swear that I actually read this in Parade magazine at some point)

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny, I think any kind of graduate school drives you to alcoholism. I've even convinced myself that 1 gin and tonic "helps me read."

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I love how he's looking the opposite direction of all of the hands clamoring to touch his cockles. And smiling idiotically.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

OH KENNY
They know that they are considered bizarre. After all, their 1992 wedding began with the wedding party in the nude. "I saw it as a statement that [everyone] had nothing to hide," Kenny says. Julia says she follows only "far-out'' healers and therapists, and advises Kenny to do the same. He wonders: "Is that incredible wisdom or is she a New Age Gracie Allen?" She even inspired Kenny, who wore a beard for 25 years, to shave. "I was afraid Julia would say, 'Oh, I didn't know you looked like that!' " Instead, "she discovered a new erogenous zone."

Both had first marriages where their goal was "to get along." But introspection and angst pay off, Julia says: "The rough spots always lead us to a closer place."

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

amanda, you made me snort.

whoa crazy xposting.

has anyone ever done ebay sniping? i'm kind of tempted to.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I like how KENNY HAS NO EYES.

LOL @ one gin and tonic to help you read. Shamefully, I can identify.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

That cover is a perfect example of guitar-as-phallus.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I have, Julia! I got tired of being sniped, so I sniped back. It works.

One of my coworkers just complained about all the alcohol she is getting from the subcontractors. 'I mean, COME ON! I HARDLY EVEN DRINK!' Give it here, lady.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Waaaaaaay xpost: The Bob in is having a show? WTF

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

INN

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Bobolink eating worm
http://www.birddigiscoping.com/bobolink.jpg

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi dere cute birdie!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i haven't been to the bob inn in years, that's where i'd go pre-show for shows at the fireside to avoid the high schoolers at the punk shows.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.fauxto.com/edit/getImage.aspx?img=35DF96746C1A50B762AA1851562E5330

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.gironit.com/fotos/fib05/Devendra%20Banhart%202.jpg

separated at birth?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

hahahahahaha oh dear

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Shit, I thought that was an unwashed Crispin Glover for a minute.

Devandra B. would shoot white light out of his eyes and when the white light it the ground it would turn into tofu wraps and hits of acid.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

What's awesome about that photoshop is I thought you whitened KL's face a little bit, but then I looked back and realized you didn't! Dude has natural corpse paint.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

If I had more time and proper image editing software I'd decapitate some of the audience members and maybe put some blood running out of his mouth.

Note: I edited that image using http://www.fauxto.com/, which is a web-based flash image editor. You can open an image from a remote location and when you save it, you save it to their servers. It's like the best piece of message-board related technology since the http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/lachen/laughing-smiley-014.gif.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

so is anyone going to be around for the xmas holiday or are you all going out of town?

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I = leaving Saturday, back Thursday evening.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeff and I = leaving today, back next Wednesday.

Jesse will be here.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

hello chicago, i am among you. i'm meeting sarah for a girly cupcakes and wine thing early tonight, is anything fun happening tonight that i could come along to? or is anyone interested in eating leftover cupcakes/drinking leftover wine in my fancypants hotel room?

― colette (colette), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I will be in town, but out of commission on account of parental units.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

ok. i think everyone i know is going out of town. colette i don't know who you are but upthread there's a link to a christmas show at a dive bar called the bob inn. that's where i'll be tonight. then saturday night my friends eric and jeremy are spinning at the continental.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

JESSE WILL HE HERE.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

everyone i know but jesse will be out of town for the holidays.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

:(

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm gone Sunday afternoon through Tuesday night.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

everyone i know except jesse and amanda, though she will be otherwise obligated, will be out of town for the holiday.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Damn right.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey Kevin, do you remember that time you and Courtney and me were drinking at the Italian Village and you yelled PROVOLONE? I think about that sometimes and laugh.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Nick and I = leaving tomorrow after work and returning the evening of the 30th (Sat)

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i do remember that time jenny and in fact i yelled PROVOLONE today at my desk in place of the poly-syllabic swear word i wanted to shout.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

what a bunch of fucking guidos at the EYE-talian village.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish I'd had a chance to mention to the dude you met at the Italian Village a while back that he was the dude you met at the Italian Village a while back. I saw him at a wedding in August but didn't talk to him.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Garrett, I mean.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah! We were like BFFs for about a half hour. It's just so weird that you knew him.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

my favorite part of the italian village experience was when jenny got up to use the rest room she left her beer and cell phone on the bar in front of her chair with her coat on the back of her chair. this soused-on-wine 40/50-something woman came over and tried to sit in the seat. courtney was like "uhm, what the fuck are you doing? someone's obviously sitting there." then the soused-on-vino lady got all sour. about five minutes later some dude about 5 people away from us got up, left his beer, phone, and cigarettes on the bar and his jacket on the back of the seat. same old drunky-loo tried to sit there too before the dudes friend alerted her to the fact that someone was sitting there.

i love people watching when you can guarantee me that someone will act like a complete moron/asshole.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

My headache returned just in time for my parents' arrival. Thank god.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

:(

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Question: is Ohio & State walking distance from Wabash/Jazz Record Mart area?

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

yes.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, looks like it to me.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Sweet. Just trying to plan my day tomorrow.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

here you go?

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

lol

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Just talked with my BFF grades 3-7. She has 2 kids and lives in an old Victorian in the middle of Ohio.

Feeling wistful.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Not sure why. She was a total hellcat in middle school.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not sure why I shared that with the internet. My apologies.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, you owe us an apology for that one lady

― the internet (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

My 10th high school reunion is on Saturday. I'm reluctantly going, because of threats against my life from my one friend who does want to go. I doubt it will make me feel wistful, but I'd like to see just how far some of the jocky prep fuckers have fallen. In fact I'm going to be really pissed if only one or two of them has become a mess.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

The messy people never (or rarely) show up to the reunion. Don't get yer hopes up.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I like winter, because I hate sweating.
2000x

-- danno martinez (thedanmarti...), December 21st, 2006. (danno martinez) (later) (link)

x1000 for the pill change/acne thing. Man. I switched from low dose pills to a Nuva ring and from there to an IUD and good grief. My face is a mess. I've been using Aveno anti-acne face wash/toner/lotion and that seems to have gotten things a little under control but I'm not going to win any complexion awards.

-- Handgun O. Mendocino (rabbitrabbi...), December 21st, 2006. (pullapartgirl) (later) (link)

OK DAN MARTIN EXPLAIN THIS ONE TO ME. I thought "2x" was like saying "me too" and "4x" was like saying "me four," as in two other people have already agreed with the original poster. But now you guys are using #x or x# to mean an amplification of the original point, like you agree with it 1000 or 2000 times more than the original poster? Or is it like "yes, yes, a thousand times yes"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

It's whatever you want it to be.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Like a hooker.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, that too.

It's the internet, man! Grammar takes a holiday and the rules of usage are meaningless!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

YES! YES! A THOUSAND TIMES, YES!

chicago, I wish you were at my work with me now so we could drink some wine, listen to my wonderful i-tunes, and you could show me different poses to use at a photo shoot. MAYBE I COULD BE AMERICA'S NEXT TOP MODEL!? Also, I would give you some chocolate and cookies. Hmmm???

I can't believe I have another hour left here today. It's so excrutiatingly quiet.

Also, Amanda, I do find that interesting. I often wonder if anyone ever hears from people from their past or keeps in touch with them, or if I'm the only one completely in the dark.

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

It's literally "Two Times". Like if I said "The Detroit Red Wings are the greatest hockey club ever" and you agreed, you could say "Two times, man, two times." However, it's adaptable so if there's something you REALLY TOTALLY 110% agreed with, you could say "X000 times" which would be (more or less) the equivalent of "yes, yes, a thousand times yes".

Some dudes from the suburbs who I went to college with introduced the phrase to me. If I had to guess they stole it from some shitty hip-hop song.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i did not go to my 10 year reunion nor did i go to my 15 year reunion. i haven't spoken to anyone i went to high school with in two years when my best friend jon was in chicago two springs ago for work. we went to o'toole's in streeterville and got shit house wasted then taunted cbs2 sports anchor and former pittsburgh steeler mark malone who was drinking while probably getting ready for the 10 o'clock news.

i hadn't seen jon in 5 years at that point but we were together for 15 minutes and it was like we hadn't seen each other for 5 days.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i haven't spoken to anyone i went to high school with in two years when my best friend jon was in chicago two springs ago for work

err, i haven't spoken to anyone i went to high school with in two years except for when my best friend jon was in chicago two springs ago for work

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Like if I said "The Detroit Red Wings are the greatest hockey club ever" and you agreed, you could say "Two times, man, two times."

PS: AND THEN WE WOULD HIGH FIVE

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

When would he kill you softly with his song?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh shit! I forgot about that. Maybe that's where they got it from, though I still would guess it was in a Kool Keith rhyme or something.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 21 December 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I was about to say: THE FUGEES?!?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 December 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

But, did Wyclef mean "I agree" when he sang that, or was it just some hype man type shit?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 21 December 2006 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

THE WORLD MAY NEVER KNOW

I'm bored. Why am I still here?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 21 December 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

All I do know is that it's impossible to listen to the Roberta Flack original without filling in the "1x, 2x" part, either in your head or out loud.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 December 2006 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

later chicago, i got nothing but love for you.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 21 December 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

ta ta

Off to do photos and then cupcakes and wine!

― Calico (calico), Thursday, 21 December 2006 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

see y'all on saturday. i am contemplating getting dressed up a wee bit, but it might just be embarrassing. we'll see.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the drummer who played with the Fugees when they did that tune on the MTV Music Awards was a big influence on me. Don't know who he was, only heard him on that one tune but he was bad as hell.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 21 December 2006 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

THIS IS JESSE AND I WILL BE HERE FOR THE FUCKING HOLIDAY.

Hey Kevin, do you want to hang out with me and Sayjal (the elf)? She's fun and sometimes I am too, so you're chances of having fun would be pretty good. We are hanging out on Sunday, probably dividing our time between food, booze and going to movies. I don't know what is happening on the 25th. I hope something, or I'll be saaaaaad. Wow. I am going to be sad.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 21 December 2006 23:43 (seventeen years ago) link

There was some beer left over in the fridge. I took one. Maybe it's because I haven't eaten since lunch, but I am a little tipsy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 December 2006 00:38 (seventeen years ago) link

(Still at work.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 December 2006 00:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi, people. It's so late. I need to sleep.

I will be the first to work tomorrow, I know, because I can actually handle my liquor. My coworkers went out and got fucking TRASHED tonight. But not me. Oh no. I don't get trashed. No sir.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 05:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Buona Terra prix fixe = STILL A GREAT GOD DAMN DEAL

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 22 December 2006 05:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I learned things I did not know tonight, and things that no one would tell me if we weren't all really fucking pissed. (Except for me, obviously. I do not not get drunk.) Like that not only does my big over-boss love me, but my more immediate boss considers me the most important member of her team, and that her nightmare right now is that I will be moved to another department and given a huge raise. She's fighting to keep me in the SAME department and to give me a huge raise and a management position.

I think I would be an excellent manager. I can pretend to know what he's talking about like nobody's business. Sometimes people even believe me.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 06:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Learn to manage my Gap parka and then put that on your resume.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 22 December 2006 06:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Oops. Sorry, that sounded bitchier than I meant it to.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 22 December 2006 06:07 (seventeen years ago) link

(I know where the parka is. It's where you left it.)

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 22 December 2006 06:09 (seventeen years ago) link

wtf are you talking about?

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 06:13 (seventeen years ago) link

OH HOLY SHIT. YOU'RE RIGHT.

There's a coat of yours that's hanging in Julia's closet. It's not lost! I can bring it over tomorrow if you have time. Even if you don't, I can leave it outside the door. It's very warm.

Learn to manage my Gap parka and then put that on your resume.

Hey, eat me. I'm not trying to screw you, Jesse. I would love nothing more than to gie you back everything that belongs to you. I'm just poorly organized, is all. Did you think I meant to keep it? I don't even wear it. I wore it once, and left it in Julia's closet, and then forgot it existed. Which does not make me Mr. Responsibility, but I'm not trying to dick you out of a coat, either.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 06:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm talking about where my Gap coat is. I now know. Hint: It's where my Adidas shorts were.

this is now an xpost

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 22 December 2006 06:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't get worked up. I know how that neither of us could us could be considered Mr. Responsiblity.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 22 December 2006 06:26 (seventeen years ago) link

And I want to give you back your stuff too, not because I want to be done with you (I miss going out with you, actually) but because I feel bad that you left behind so much stuff at my house. The stack grows and grows.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 22 December 2006 06:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Hint: It's where my Adidas shorts were.

Wherever your coat was, it was never on my ass.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 06:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Do I still have your shorts? If I do, I can give them back plus some. I don't think I have them.

But I take your point.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 06:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I am pretty sure I have not made a point in quite a while.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 22 December 2006 06:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sorry, Jesse. For a lot of things. A lot of things that I've been honestly confused about. I knew you were pissed at me for some reason, but I could only guess why. I made your cat fat, and I wasn't the best at cleaning what quickly became a kind of stifling mess, and I'm just kind of an asshole in general. BUT YOU NEVER TOLD ME WHAT WAS MAKING YOU MAD. So I still don't know.

If it was the "asshole in general" part, I can't help you. Otherwise, I'd like to know what you don't like about me. In real life, I mean. I already know what you don't like about my internet persona. Not helpful in a real life scenario, though. Email me. Talk to me. I'm not retarded, I'm just not always good at making people as happy as they could be.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 06:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, STFU. Any time I have been pissed at you in a very particular way, I would not express it here. I am certainly not pissed about the substantial feline weight gain.

If I didn't have to work in the morning I would buy you a drink tonight.

Merry Christmas and I will see you soon.

Now calm yourself.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 22 December 2006 06:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Believe it or not, I worry about what you think of me.

Merry Christmas to you, too.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 06:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Get on Gmail and we might chat, assbutt.

Until then, Merry Xmas?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 22 December 2006 06:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I am certainly not pissed about the substantial feline weight gain.

haha I'm glad. Because it was SUBSTANTIAL. I couldn't have done that on purpose if I'd tried.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 06:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm on gmail, but you're not. S'okay. I have to work tomorrow, too.

Merry Christmas, faggo.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 07:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Good morning, Chicago!

I'm going to die.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I am certainly not pissed about the substantial feline weight gain.
This is the funniest thing I've seen since I woke up, 1.5 hours ago.

Kenan, we're all going to die eventually.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

But NOT LIKE THIS! I DON'T WANT IT TO END LIKE THIS!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I'm still drunk.

This could be a lot worse. I just chatted with Kev, and he didn't go to sleep last night. I slept in my pants, but at least I slept.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Since I can't depart on that sour note...
(i kinda screwed this up, but you gotta love me for trying)
http://www.fauxto.com/edit/getImage.aspx?img=BBE57FC31034D3C57AC5411AB244127C

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I do!

We can form a fat cat owners group, Jesse.

This morning hasn't been the greatest for me. My mom called me this morning. The line was horribly scratchy. That's been happening whenever we have any rain, or even moisture for that matter. So it was really hard for us to hear each other. But the long and short of it is that she was all ready to go pick me up from the airport but needed to know which one and what time and why hadn't I given her this information yet? So I say, um, mom, I've told you this a million times, but I'm taking the TRAIN. We won't be there until 1:30 tomorrow afternoon. And she was like, "WHAT?! YOU WON'T BE HERE UNTIL TOMORROW?!" Whoopsies.

Maybe she'll at least be calmed down by then.

Hi, CHICAGO! Why didn't anyone ask about my photo shoot, you frackers?

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

WTF is up with your photo shoot, Sarah.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Band photo shoot?

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Yep. Thanks for askin'. It was for a Reader article that's coming out next week. It was so much fun! All the photo shoots we've had in the past were ones we instigated. This time it was someone contacting us saying they needed to set up an appointment for our photo shoot. Of course, Nick, Ben & I were totally hyper and dorky about the whole thing and giggled through most of it.

Then I went and met Colette and another IndieBride and we ate a ton of cupcakes and drank wine.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Ooh, a Reader article! With photo! How about that!! Merry Christmas, FFs!

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Movin on up, yo. That's awesome.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, it's time for me to go fetch my parents. Stay awake, stay alive, don't drink and drive.

― Armando Grouse (Armando ), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Awesome. It's b/c Mil3s Raym3r is the new music columnist for the Reader and he has seen you guys play w/ Mann3quin M3n, right?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

chicago, my hangover started about 45 minutes ago and right now i feel like i'm gonna die. literally. death seems imminent.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i hate being awake for the START of a hangover. being awake for the tail end is bad enough but seeing these fuckers through from cradle to grave really blows. it feels like i have saran wrap stretched too tightly on the inside of my skull.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm praying that the full on ass feeling doesn't start before lunch.

Otto, maybe you should have a shot.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish I was a rock star. Sometimes when no one's looking I pretend I'm Black Francis.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

John, He was the one that asked to do an interview, but I don't know if he's seen us play. In fact, Nick even asked him if he heard about us because of the MM show. He said he originally was just in charge of fact-checking for the show listings/write ups, and that's how he first heard about us. So yeah, I think it was because of that show, but I don't think he was there, or he probably would have mentioned it.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

My mom has a cat which Leslie named Black Francis, but we usually just call her Baby.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin, When can you go home? Can you just say you're sick? I mean, you are basically.

Kevin & Kenan, DRINK WATER.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

i get out 59 minutes early today, at 3:31. can't go home as we're about half-staffed in the office. not like i'm actually getting much done but i'm doing some stuff that NEEDS to be done.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm gonna go down to the file room and pass out.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

hello, chicago! i am posting from a cozy little condo in the gold coast, with a cat named rabbit bopping around somewhere. last night, fulton lounge was very fun -- especially since someone else was footing the bill (hello, tax write-offs), and i expect the birthday dinner i'm going to at lula tonight will also be awesome. oh yeah, and i ate at amitabul yesterday afternoon, which was just what i needed to face cold and dreary weather.

i imagine i'll probably see some of you at the green mill tomorrow...

― robots in love (robots in love), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi! I'm sorry I'll miss you. Nick and I are bootscootboogieing off to DC today.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi Mark, glad to hear you are safe and sound. Too bad about the rain.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not cold though, Mark. That's crazy talk.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha, I was about to be all "You have to understand he lives in Orange County" but then I checked Weather.com, and Irvine is four degrees colder than Chicago and also raining!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 December 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, it was about the same temperature in CA when i left. but, it still feels more wintery here, hence the soup for lunch and hot toddy at fulton lounge. maybe i'm just bracing myself for cold weather to come. what's the forecast?

― robots in love (robots in love), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Flurries tomorrow, supposedly.

Is anyone going to the M@m@ D|gd0wn show tonight? My plans are being thrown into utter disarray by the weather out west.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Isn't your fam here now, Dan?

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i want to shoot everyone i've seen today in the face.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

EZ called me yesterday and said he might go to the MDBB show tonight but wasn't sure yet.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, otto.

I wished the bike messenger a happy holiday and he said he hates december because he's had six deaths in his life in december, including his mom and sister.

Dan, I thought I remembered you going to pick them up.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

My sis is here now, yes. But I have 2 other friends that are riding to MI with me who are coming from WA today, and their arrival is up in the air at this point.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin, you said Black Lips are good, right? If so, we'll probably see them in dc.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

That sucks, Dan.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

shit, yes, you definitely should. last night i think i made plans to go see the black lips, ponys, and turpentine brothers in boston some time in march.


listen to the live version of not a problem and decide for yourself.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm 75% percent certain that not a problem is the only song the drummer sings.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

That sucks, Dan.

Enh, not so much sucks as is inconvenient. We were going to leave tomorrow anyway, and I still have my sister to hang with. And who knows, they'll probably get here in time.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I really, really liked that song, so we're going to see them.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't "get" live recordings.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

explain

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

no

― n/a (n/a), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Just kidding. I agree that most live albums are pretty inessential, but sometimes they serve as a greatest hits album for bands that don't have a greatest hits album, and there are some bands for whom a live album is worth it.

― n/a (n/a), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

hahaha oh man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GkRsNllqmI

Merry Xmas everyone

xpost: you're not John

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

You get the vibe from the crowd, the enthusiasm.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree that most live albums are pretty inessential, but sometimes they serve as a greatest hits album for bands that don't have a greatest hits album, and there are some bands for whom a live album is worth it.

Motorhead.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

the sound from a black lips show is pretty different from what's on their studio albums and still pretty great but in a different way. i can not wait for the b-lips live album, i heard from someone who has it that it's amazing.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I had this live Fear album (post connections what?) that I used to lurrrrve for the retarded onstage banter between songs.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 22 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Uh. I woke up for the start of my hangover today, then I went back to sleep. Taking off today is the best decision I ever made.

Um, our sousaphone player is flying into O'Hare tonight, is that going to be a problem?

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Flights into Chicago's O'Hare International Airport were experiencing delays of almost three hours, according to Federal Aviation Administration.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi! I don't know how to get back on this ILX train, but hey. I'll probably go to the Green Mill tonight with a few people (including a friend from high school who I haven't seen since graduation - he's passing through town and is apparently kind of the manc0w of New Hampshire), and if not I'll go tomorrow night. You're all the tops. Would love to see any and all of you soon.

― eric z (Eazy), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, z-town. I'll definitely give you a call when we get back in town.

― n/a (n/a), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Oops, used my real name.

Z-TOWN AND DOG BOYZ

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Eric, HI!

What should I watch on youtube?

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

omg, Sarah and Nick, that's awesome about FFs picture in the Reader!

I am sorry about various and sundry hangovers and traveling inconveniences. fyi for anyone flying/picking people up from airports, the flight that I got bumped to after missing my actual flight yesterday was delayed an hour and a half. that seemed endemic; all the flights around me were delayed.

also, hi, Eric!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry just trying to be "controversial" upthread re live recordings. I don't have much of a relationship with them, though. In a lot of cases I'd rather just listen to the studio version than some poorly recorded substitute. And I don't want to hear crowd noise unless I'm actually there, because otherwise it can take away from the intimate connection with the recording. Neil Young's Live Rust is pretty good, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

ALSO, MOTORHEAD.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I was just gonna say: There are some good, some bad, just like studio records. I have an EITS bootleg that sounds almost as good as a studio recording and I actually like it better than the album it mostly draws from.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 22 December 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I will now officially vow to not mention Motorhead again for.. say... six weeks.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Friday, 22 December 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

We are Scientists are cuuuuute.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Might I recommend Incation or Great Escape.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

That was INACTION. I'm not even drinking at my desk today!

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm listening to Ace of Spades now, Kenan. Hey! The pixies ripped off that riff (or paid tribute to it?) in nimrod's son!

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

dear god i can not wait to get home and crawl into bed.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 22 December 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

No hair of the dog? ;D

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 22 December 2006 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

no. what the fuck happened to me last night?

unrelated: the bob inn has malort.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 22 December 2006 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I think you just answered your own question

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 22 December 2006 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

SHIT someday I'll learn to read

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 22 December 2006 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Be strong!

That show looked fun. I got drunk with strangers instead. How was it?

Holy momma. A subcontractor just gave me a $50 gift card to Lord & Taylor. Niiice.

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

first set was kind of choppy, second set was way way better. by that time everyone (crowd & band) was pretty sauced but it was a whoooooooole lotta fun. then there was an afterparty at a place pretty much right across the street. me and amy cabbed it home around 4:30-ish, i got back home around 5. my brain feels like it's been pressed against a circular sander for about 6 hours.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 22 December 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Bbut it was worth it, right?

My boss just came up to my desk and said I could go home. BOO YAH!

Have a great Christmas, everybody!

― Calico (calico), Friday, 22 December 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i have 72 minutes to go chicago, not sure if i'm gonna make it. it's the same sensation as when you've been driving a car with the gas gauge way past E for too long and you're not sure if you'll be able to make it to the next gas station or not.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 22 December 2006 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/12/22/sports/22cnd-duke.600a.jpg

Middle dude kind of looks like Mark Wahlberg/David Spade.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 December 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

you can do it otto!
you can do it otto!

http://www.gosimpsons.com/ProdImages/simpsonspinpalsaf.jpg

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 22 December 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey does anyone have any of these songs?

Zeigeist, "Tar Heart"
Geiger, "Good Evening (Supermayer Remix)"
Momus, "Nervous Heartbeat"
Sasse ft. Kiki, "Loosing Touch"

They're the only songs standing in my way of having the entirety of Pitchfork and Stylus's year-end lists on my hard drive.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 December 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

No.

I am thinking about showing up at the Green Mill around 10 tonight, but I might just go to tomorrow night's show. Not sure yet what I'm going to do. What should I do?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 22 December 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Who do you love more, me or Dan?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 December 2006 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

The Green Mill calendar doesn't provide show times.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 22 December 2006 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

nevermind. I see now that you can click on the name of the act and get a showtime.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 22 December 2006 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. Hmmm, hmmm, hmmm. What to do.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 22 December 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Who loves me more, Dan or John?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 22 December 2006 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm gone chicago, hope your holidays are everything you wish them to be.

peace & love.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 22 December 2006 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Q: How do you make a mix CD for someone in an age when they're able to routinely burn hundreds of songs from your hard drive and put them on their iPod and thus already own the songs you've played for them thinking they'd like?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 22 December 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

make it a mix cd with a flow to it. that they'd listen to in a car or as a playlist. so, basically you're just parsing and organizing them.

― robots in love (robots in love), Saturday, 23 December 2006 00:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey! The pixies ripped off that riff (or paid tribute to it?) in nimrod's son!

Oh, but it goes so much deeper than that. I was a fool before. I did not know enough to recognize that Motorhead is rock. They are the pinnacle and the nascent form all at once.

Christgau has a clear thought for once:

The stuff is so pure it's almost rarefied: no operatic declamations, no schlocky guitaristics, no satanism or medievalism or sci-fi or sexist s&m. Just aggression, violence, noise.

YESSSS!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 23 December 2006 03:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, so I have to tell you about how I bought a couch today. I went to that strip of Milwaukee between Ashland and Damen that is just lousy with crappy furniture stores. That and shoe stores. The are more end tables and Nikes on that block than anywhere in Chicago.

So I went to four of these furniture stores, and saw a lot of overstuffed things and a lot of grandmotherly things and a lot of just plain bullshit. It's a lot like looking for records in the dollar bin. But then this one couch jumped out at me. There was a soft glow behind it, and angels sang. I knew it was meant for me. It's a chocolate brown number with no arms and tapered and angled steel legs.

This is the conversation I had with the salesman:

Me: "I really like this one."

Him: "That's... yeah that one's nice too. It's very retro." [emphasis his]

Me: "I'll take it."

Him: "You're some kind of artist, aren't you?"

Me (flattered): "I'm a designer."

Him: "I could tell by your glasses."

So I have an artist couch, apparently. It will be delivered tomorrow.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 23 December 2006 04:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, and it folds out into a double bed. I laid on it -- very cushy. So feel free to crash at my place. Bring a friend, even! A friend you like a whole lot!

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 23 December 2006 04:55 (seventeen years ago) link

hi! i'm enamored with chicago again. it's a nice feeling. midafternoon beers at 3rd coast + dinner at lula + drinks at danny's + ending the evening at the zebra lounge = A+. although maybe it was just the company. so good to see old friends and meet some new ones as well. plus, the superhot bartender at zebra lounge was all smiley at me and told me i had a cute haircut! i'm taken, but that'll get me through the week i'm away from my gf just fine...

― robots in love (robots in love), Saturday, 23 December 2006 08:43 (seventeen years ago) link

john, you might also be interested to know i ran into n1ck luck1ng! he's following me everywhere. he came to 3rd coast with me and dan!

― robots in love (robots in love), Saturday, 23 December 2006 09:00 (seventeen years ago) link

No Dan at the Green Mill. No nobody, except for Jordan. So I left the cramped space and met Sayjal at Crew where we had quesadillas. Then we went back the the GM at 1.

After that we went to Nick's Uptown where we drank vodka and sodas until 4. I am strangely about my wits and I do not like it whatsoever after the money I spent on hard liquor (5 hours of drinking) that was to have taken me outside myself.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 23 December 2006 10:19 (seventeen years ago) link

So you're at work, it's Xmas eve and you are saying goodnight to your favorite wonderful mother-surrogate, white-haired, Twisted-Sister-loving, pothead, gives-you-a-hug-when-she-sees-you co-worker and what do you think you might say to her?

How about, "Goddamit--who do you have to blow to suck some dick around this place?"

Then I got a hug. Yay.

HAPPY XMAS EVE!

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 23 December 2006 10:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Sry guys. Everything happened later than anticipated, and ppl were tired.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Saturday, 23 December 2006 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Now I'm gonna go drive home. Merry Christmas, Happy Haunnakah, Krazy Kwanzaa, and all that to all y'all wonderful people.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Saturday, 23 December 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Weird drunk. I drank vodka all night and then came home and polished off a whole bottle of wine at about 5. The thing is that usually I can't handle hard liquor. Strangely, I have only a normal hangover. Not that it doesn't completely fucking suck, because it really totally does.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 23 December 2006 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

vodka is a surprisingly clean drunk.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Saturday, 23 December 2006 23:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Did anyone tell Jesse that it's not xmas eve?

― n/a (n/a), Sunday, 24 December 2006 01:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, it's not xmas eve.

I am in Virginia, watching "White Christmas" with my family.

― n/a (n/a), Sunday, 24 December 2006 01:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Wodka is deeeelightful. Sadly I have none. Actually vodka (more than any other liquor, for me) is for going dancing and being manic and/or coked up and busy. Everything else is for down times.

― Laurel (Laurel), Sunday, 24 December 2006 01:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I am speaking to a limited audience here, I know, but I just went to a good restaurant that you should all know about. It's called Glenn's Diner, it's on Montrose near Damen, and they serve seafood. I'm normally really skittish about ordering fish at smaller places, but they seem really good.

The best part is their specials. There's the early bird special--seated before 6, you get an entree, soup, and salad for $10.95. The special that I'm reeeealy excited about is all-you-can-eat Alaskan KING crab legs for $29.95 on Tuesdays.

Tonight I had the Simon and Garfunkle tilapia, seasoned with--you can probably guess--parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme, broiled (I think), and served with string beans and roasted red potatoes.

They have a small but respectable wine list. And you can order breakfast all day.

http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=4b1&q=glenn%27s+seafood+chicago&btnG=Search

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Sunday, 24 December 2006 06:20 (seventeen years ago) link

What's funny about crabs and lobsters is that they are the only animals I can think of that look appetizing when they are alive. It's kind of disturbing to pass the tanks in the window and get some mouth-watering action going on from looking at a living, moving creature. No other animals look so much the same alive and on a plate as these guys. This does not happen when I see a pig or a cow, but it would be funny if it did.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Sunday, 24 December 2006 06:33 (seventeen years ago) link

JESSE YOU IDIOT I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT RESTAURANT ALL WEEK. I WENT THERE LAST NIGHT. I HAD THE POTATO ENCRUSTED WHITEFISH. THIS IS NOT NEWS.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 24 December 2006 06:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Me. I don't know what date we're going to come to your show yet. On Friday (the 22nd) I'm arranging for Restaurant Club to go to Glenn's Diner, a place a block away from Kr's apartment that specializes in seafood and also serves cereal all day. It'd be v. easy to just come to the Gr Mill afterwards -- it's relatively close -- but if that doesn't happen for some reason, then we'll def. be there on Saturday. Kr is v. excited.

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), November 29th, 2006. (jaymc) (link)

Do you want to come to dinner with me at Glenn's Diner, for breakfast cereal and seafood specials?

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), December 18th, 2006. (jaymc) (later) (link)

Jordan -- the restaurant is Glenn's Diner at 1820 W. Montrose. I'll be there at 7, it'll be a party of 4 to 6 folks.

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), December 20th, 2006. (jaymc) (later) (link)

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 24 December 2006 06:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I missed that due to skimming. Do you think I have the time or the desire to read every single post on here?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Sunday, 24 December 2006 07:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Now that I'm not spending my days in an office I have a huge backlog of unread posts when I come to visit.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Sunday, 24 December 2006 07:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Was Jordan there at 7? Because I was there from 5:45 to around 7:30 and did not see him.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Sunday, 24 December 2006 07:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Good job, Jordan, avec le Digd0wn.

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 24 December 2006 07:24 (seventeen years ago) link

uh oh. Girlfight.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 24 December 2006 07:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Bad Santa is not just a good movie. It's hilarious. It's a classic. It's kind of amazing. It's bleeding genius.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 24 December 2006 07:33 (seventeen years ago) link

You know how some people watch It's A Wonderful Life every year and cry every time? I used to be that guy. Now I watch Bad Santa every year and cry laughing.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 24 December 2006 07:37 (seventeen years ago) link

It's pretty good, you're right. Underrated.

John -- do you have OCD?

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Sunday, 24 December 2006 07:39 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.neatorama.com/images/2006-12/world-longest-diary.gif

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Sunday, 24 December 2006 07:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I slept for fifteen minutes, as sound as a dollar. Except the dollar is far from sound. It is worth about two cents.

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Sunday, 24 December 2006 07:44 (seventeen years ago) link

For twenty years, Robert Shields has kept a written record of absolutely everything that has happened to him, day and night. For no less than four hours each day, Shields holes himself up in the small office in his home, turns on his stereo, and types. His diary, at 35 million words, is believed to be the world’s longest.

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Sunday, 24 December 2006 07:45 (seventeen years ago) link

i hear that chicks dig that.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 24 December 2006 08:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a raw, bloody place on each hand. I had a day. After I got my couch, I felt that something was missing, so I went to Brown Elephant and bought an end table, a lamp, and four dining chairs. The chairs were the bulk of the price, but I still got out of there for under $100. But I injured myself moving this stuff in several ways. Worst of all, the tip of my right thumb has a gash on it that didn't stop bleeding for hours. Ugly and painful. I hate using the space bar right now.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 24 December 2006 08:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Then I watched His Girl Friday, and everything was ok again.

I like movies. A lot.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Sunday, 24 December 2006 08:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't have OCD. Why do you ask?

I thought that diary you posted might have been of Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL).

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 24 December 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I was kidding about OCD. :D

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Sunday, 24 December 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I think he asks because it was a little odd (obsessive perhaps, but not compulsive) for you to dig through old posts and repost them. And you do that regularly.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Sunday, 24 December 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, have you ever tried using your other thumb on the space bar? I use my right one and I've experimented with the left one when I had a hang nail and it was nigh impopssible.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Sunday, 24 December 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

impopsicle

― n/a (n/a), Sunday, 24 December 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

John. Question. Where did Nora/Norah rank in baby names in 2004/2005? I've met three babies with this name in the past week.

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 24 December 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I AM HAVING XMAS EVE SUNDAY BRUNCH AT TWEET.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Sunday, 24 December 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

kev: xmas mix is a real hit with the fam!

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Sunday, 24 December 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

raise up

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Sunday, 24 December 2006 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

This is from BC's website.


Look for beer tasting night coming soon to Big Chicks!

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Sunday, 24 December 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Hooray.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Sunday, 24 December 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Things I have learned so far from my parents' cable TV connection:

1. The new Nas single samples "Inna Gadda Davida."
2. The Prince song "Black Sweat" kicks ass, and the video is pretty great too.
3. Cable kinda sucks (I already knew this, but I forget it).

― n/a (n/a), Sunday, 24 December 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Chicago was fun, now I'm in Milwaukee at my dad's house. I just gave a drum lesson to a little Hasid kid named Moshe.

Black Sweat was definitely one of my singles of the year. I think I'm going to go watch some cable now.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 25 December 2006 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

me too!

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Monday, 25 December 2006 01:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I've had a headache for the past two and half days. This has never happened to me before, waht is wrong.

― JordanC (JordanC), Monday, 25 December 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I took a nap yesterday and the the weirdest, most intense dreams I maybe ever had. I kept falling asleep and going into this totally real alternate reality, where I would be doing mundane things, like talking to my coworkers. Only one of my coworkers would be someone I totally made up, someone I have never even seen. And I'd say to myself, "Wait a minute. This is a dream. I don't work with any light-skinned black guys!" Then I'd force myself to kind of half open my eves to check in with the real world real quick before going right back to sleep and doing it again. It was strange waking up. For a good half hour, I still wasn't entirely sure that this was the real world, and I kept looking for signs that something was wrong with it.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 25 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, you know what, guys? Merry Christmas.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 25 December 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Merry xmas bros. Made a good haul. Lots of books, including two copies of the new Pynchon (going to return one). Donald Barthelme's 60 Stories. Sweaters. The Residents' Commercial Album. Good stuff. I am sleepy. Watching "Mythbusters" in my parents' freezing basement.

― n/a (n/a), Monday, 25 December 2006 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Barthelme is a hero of mine. That's an awesome book. Get ready to laugh a lot.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Monday, 25 December 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Merry Xmas. My neighborhood is a place that Xmas forgot--all the stores and restaurants are open and the sidewalks are full of people and Vietnamese women menacing pedestrians with their BMW SUV's and Volvos.

Last night Sayjal and I went to Tweet for brunch, then had a salty dog at Big Chicks while I filled out a job application. After that we saw The Queen (good) then went, had Chinese in Chinatown, and returned to Big Chicks.

Sayjal had to work today so she left me and my other brown friend Sheila joined us. We had only had a couple sips of our beer before a drunk man told Sheila and me that we were "beautiful, gorgeous people," and that he was from the Lower East Side and not since he was last there to had he seen such good-looking people. Strangely, he correctly guessed that she was Guatmalen and I was Mexican. He tried to buy us a drink, but we turned him down, to which he responded, "I'm really sorry to bother you but it's just that you're both so beautiful that I'd like to penetrate you both."

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 25 December 2006 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi everyone, Merry Xmas and stuff once again. I'm relaxing on the couch and thinking about the eggplant and mozzarella baked ziti dish I'm making for dinner tonight. Got some good books (Iraq Study Group Report, the Motorcycle Diaries) and a MIDI keyboard (!) among other things for presents this year, and everyone seemed to like what I got them. I helped my dad set up his iPod (his big present) this afternoon, and I put a bunch of music on it for him. I can't wait to see him listening to N.W.A.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Monday, 25 December 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

The papasan chair is gone. I'm sorry if anyone wanted it, but I doubt that anyone does, given the reaction it got last time Jenny offered it up. First I noticed that it was enormous and crowding my living room. Then I moved it into the bedroom, and noticed that it was even more enormous in there. Now it's enormous in the alley.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 03:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm glad it was in my living room for a couple of months, though, and I was thankful for it when I had nothing else to sit on. I watched movies in it. I fell asleep in it.

*cue Oscar-style montage of me watching classic movies, intercut with shots of me sleeping in a big-ass chair*

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 03:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Saw Borat tonight and couldn't stop with the laughing. Hilarious, with great satiric sensitivity. It rode the line beautifully.

After watching episodes of Ali G. on HBO on demand I thought I would cringe through the whole thing, but instead I busted a gut. I loved it the mix of candid and scripted material.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 03:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, Borat. So, so funny.

― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Drunk! Typing accomplished only slowly, with many corrections. Poss the bset night of my home time.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Ooh, time to play truth-or-dare, L.!

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Could do! Who but you and I are around?

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Only me, and I'm crepey. Best not for the truth or the dare.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan, you know I don't give a shit. Would tell you anyway.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Ugh, I smell like campfire.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, let's do this thing.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

How do you do an online dare?

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

DID YOU KNOW THAT THE 90'S WERE THE TIME WHEN MUSIC HIT ITS PINNACLE? After the 90's I stopped caring, with only occasional acts that spark anything like the passion I had back then. At Lucky Strike (bowling alley on the premises of the River East 21 Cinema) tonight they played almost 100% 90's and I saw what a glorious period that was. I want it back.

xpost--I have double-dosed on Xanax, so T or D could be fun. I also had a big giant Jim Beam Black, 2 Bud lights and the another JB, which I snuck into the movie in its rocks glass.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Who starts? I already peed in the woods twice tonight, so I'm feeling okay with the majority of dares. Haha XP.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

HI JESSE!!!!

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh god, Hi, Laurel. Penetrate me.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:41 (seventeen years ago) link

You pick a foreign object and I'll consider it.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone dare me to say that I LURV the Smashing Pumpkins circa Gish-Melon Collie. I'll take that dare.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I have posted about that bowling alley before, I think. Classic.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, you lose. I love love LOVE Siamese Dream. Still.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll see that, and raise you "August and Everything After" by Counting Crows.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:45 (seventeen years ago) link

You pick a foreign object and I'll consider it.

I'll take Big Purple Dildo for $1000, Bob.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:45 (seventeen years ago) link

"August and Everything After" by Counting Crows.

I think we can be friends after all. That's a really great record.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:46 (seventeen years ago) link

TS: 90's or 80's???

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Bra is starting to pinch, removed it in secret girl way without substantially disarranging any clothing. That should count as a dare, I think. So you both owe me a Truth, if I could only think of a question I cared enough about to ask the two greatest exhibitionists of ILX.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:47 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost 80's. Easy.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Easier if we can include Depeche Mode's Violator in the 80's. Come on, guys. It's just under the wire.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Where does Violent Femmes album come in? With the tribal art thing on the cover? Included that Fall Out the Window song.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I think 90s, in my case. I went to college '94-'98 so that's preferable. All I remember from the '80s is hair metal and "Electric Blue" by Icehouse.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:51 (seventeen years ago) link

For instance, the (in)famous Skid Row song, which I only heard on 104.5 Sunny FM and thought for ages was "Yukon Wild" instead of "Youth Gone Wild." Thank you, Jack London.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:52 (seventeen years ago) link

xxpost You're in luck. Or not. That's the cover of a best-of comp.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:53 (seventeen years ago) link

HELLO I AM DRUNK WHERE ARE YOU ALL?

XZP: hmm, maybe so. My roommate had it.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:53 (seventeen years ago) link

God, who could make such a deicision? Around 1998 or so I stopped caring about anything I didn't already like.

----this post was just interrupted by my co-worker P@xs0n who was sobbing b/c her grandfather is dying and she has to fly to Seattle and I will be house and dog (!!) sitting for her. Oy.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Re: Femmes. Nothing is as good as the first album. Not even the other songs of theirs that are AWESOME. 1983.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:55 (seventeen years ago) link

hmm, maybe so

I promise you, I promise you.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sorry but I'm just thinking of the right words to say.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:57 (seventeen years ago) link

god i feel like a fucking heel because she had wanted to hang out todya and i avoided her because she gets really weird after a few drinks --showing her mom's ashes, her journals, telling you that you are the most beautiful person she's ever known, inside and out, etc.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Less music-related nostalgia, more truth or dare.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:57 (seventeen years ago) link

We should tak the Truth or Dare to IM. Can we open a gchat group or something? Do I have to download AIM for this purpose? Because I'll do it.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:57 (seventeen years ago) link

The upside: I get to stay in her nice condo on State and Madison, 3 blocks from work, in-unit w/d, with a FUCKING DOGGY WOGGY!

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:58 (seventeen years ago) link

JAYMC IS LURKING

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I absolutely love Siamese Dream. That was a turning point in my musical life. The pinnacle, probabaly.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:59 (seventeen years ago) link

is there such a thing as g groups?

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 06:01 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost True nuff. That's a crazy good record.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 06:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Did you know that Jason Bateman is the single most desireable man in the world?

OH! So I met a guy last night and we hung out at his place last night and I spent the night. Now he's called me twice (TWICE!) today. That's really off-putting.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 06:01 (seventeen years ago) link

hey, who has aim?

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 06:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, how you gonna call somebody to hang out on Xmas day, the same day you just parted ways when it was clearly a casual thing, and then how you gonna call TWICE?

xpost--No AIM here.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 06:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I've only got yahoo and whatever works with my gmail account. I'm house-sitting in a condo in roger's park and I'm game.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 06:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Am I crazy, or is there some way now to make all of the different messaging systems compatible?

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 06:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm on AIM right now. There are Google Groups like there are Yahoo Groups: for listservs.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 06:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Cherub Rock, Zero, and Tonight, Tonight.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 06:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Hold on, downloading AIM and logging in....

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 06:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Trying the same...

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 06:09 (seventeen years ago) link

HEY what are yr names? I'll invite you to "buddy chat".

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 06:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse/EZ: download AIM, if you please? You can transfer buddy lists from several other services. Just post your chosen nicknames here and I'll invite you to chatz.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 06:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I use YIM and GIM.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 06:34 (seventeen years ago) link

JESSE DOWNLOAD AIM, I NEED YOU HERE.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 06:37 (seventeen years ago) link

There is some chat client that combines them all, I'll have to ask 3mm4 what she uses.

Back at work, back at work.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

went to that strip of Milwaukee between Ashland and Damen that is just lousy with crappy furniture stores.

i love that strip, especially the part between paulina and about wood or so.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

kev: xmas mix is a real hit with the fam!

awesome. the only thing i'd do differently is maybe leave off the andre williams song as it's somewhat raunchy but i put it towards the end of the mix in hopes that if it were played at a party everyone would have enough drinks in them by that point to appreciate it.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks to John/Eric/Amanda/Jesse/etc. for coming out this weekend btw, that was nice. I had a great time in Chicago even if I was so tired I could hardly speak by the end of the second night.

Final restaurant count: Lawrence's twice, Ashkenaz Deli once, Fiesta Mexicana once, Hot Doug's zero. As John said I think it has become my white wale. :(

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Bra is starting to pinch, removed it in secret girl way without substantially disarranging any clothing.

is this the thing where you unhook it then slide it off a shoulder then shoot it out the other sleeve? 'cause that is still a wonder to me every time i see it. i'm still not quite sure how that works but i don't spend much time pondering it either. i need some mysteries, y'know?

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Chat thing is Meebo I think.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I had Xmas eve dinner at Andie's - good food.

The bra trick is dazzling because is is concealed and quick.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm so congested that my left eye is watering.
if i were a horse they'd put me down.
they shoot horse, don't they?

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

why am i here? i don't mean that in an existential way, i mean why the fuck am i at work? i'm not doing anything but wishing i was home in bed nursing a pint of nyquil. on the bright side only four and a half more hours to go.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I've still got this headache thing that only hurts when I stand up or lie down, like it's an equilibrium thing. I'm pretty sure it's either minor cold/flu symptoms (although otherwise I'm not that stuffed up) or a brain tumor.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

So is everyone else on vacation still?

My stomach is still in holiday mode, I feel like I have to end every meal with 7+ cookies.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

no, i'm at work and now actually doing work while wishing death would come claim me.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still on vacation (sorry). Comin' back Thursday, hopefully in time to make it to Old Timer's for a couple if TT is still happening, though I'm not sure how late I'll end up rolling into town.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I am still on vacation, though I am working from my parents' basement for the next couple of days, which means waking up at 7 a.m., though it wasn't until this minute that I realized I could sleep until 7 instead of 6 due to the time difference. I went shopping for a suit today for the wedding. It was pretty painless but made me feel obese. Later I walked up to Seven Corners to get out of the house and wandered around in Guitar Center and bought my mom a gift certificate to the Vietnamese restaurant she likes for her birthday. I've been reading a lot, finished "Carter Beats the Devil" in a couple of days (the perfect vacation book, fascinating but quick) and the Bill Bryson Australia book in a day or so. Other than that, I've been sitting in my parents' basement trying to find anything good to watch on cable. I am ready to come home.

― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

you going to that black lips show on thursday nick?

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Looks like it.

― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess I will read more now.

― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

My work is in the pre-real-Jan/Feb-doldrums doldrums. I am bracing for being might broke.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I play the doldrums. I am a doldrummer.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I've still got this headache thing that only hurts when I stand up or lie down, like it's an equilibrium thing. I'm pretty sure it's either minor cold/flu symptoms (although otherwise I'm not that stuffed up) or a brain tumor.

i get those a lot. it prob means that you're a bit fluey in a way that has messed with your blood pressure a bit.

i watched a movie that was a very bad movie to watch on christmas day, though a good movie--tsotsi. not a fluffy heartwarming cute thing to watch when sick in bed on a holiday. and jimmy stewart was nowhere to be found on tv. i heard that someone bought the rights to it's a wonderful life and they barely ever show it now.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

So you're saying it's not a tumah? Oh good.

Movies I watched over the weekend:

Beastmaster (part of it anyway, in the hotel. I love the Beastmaster handshake)

Little Miss Sunshine (there could have been much worse movies to watch w/dad & stepmom)

The Good Sheperd (slow, long, boring, just like espionage work is? I liked it anyway)

Oleanna (I'm not sure but I think I really liked this)

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry I didn't get on AIM, Laurel. I was on the verge of unconsciousness, watching Youtube in bed. Things are not going to be right for a while I think, considering that I was drinking and eating for 3 days straight.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

i watched the blues brothers and the muppet movie (that was a gift from my sister).

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

jesse, i txted jenny to try to get your # so we could booze it up or whatnot but never heard back from her.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Boo.

That would have been fun. You would have been especially welcome as a reliable 3rd-shift guy.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't know what that means. instead i watched the best of triumph the insult comic dog on dvd which was a present from me to me.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I had Sayjal as 1st shift, then someone else and then I was all alone at the bar. Same situation the next day.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

dang, yeah. i could've worked a double actually.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

The Loop is lively with shoppers, but my building is empty. No L3o Burn3tters, no attorneys staff at W|inston/Str@um, even the Cartridge World and the hair and nail salons are closed. It's 40-some floors of nothing except for bored waiters.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

a cop was shot about an hour ago at artesian and division, that shouldn't fuck up my trip home too much i'm sure.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

What was he doing to get himself shot?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

probably acting like a dick or something. or busting criminals or whatever.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it is because of what he was wearing. He was asking for it.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

later chicago, i'm going home to curl up with my nyquil.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/101406/smoking-kills.gif

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

so am i the only idiot who got out of bed today or what? where the hell is everyone?

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm here. I imagine everyone else is having champagne blowjobs or whatever people on vacation do.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I am working in my parents' basement. Got the space heater on.

― n/a (n/a), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Just got to work. Nick and Sarah: I visited your cats last night. They are well.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I heard a really annoying solo (free jazz) sax piece on the way to work. It was like someone going "heyheyheyheyguesswhatguesswhatguesswhatheyheyguessguesswhat" and then screaming in your ear. I kept listening to it because it wasn't talk radio.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe it's too derivative of Oasis, Jordan, but if you would like to start a band with me called Champagne Blowjobs, I will go all the way to Madison to practice.

Madison seems like it'd be a great place to spend New Years Eve.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, I am in.

Madison seems like it'd be a great place to spend New Years Eve.

I hope so, but all of my best New Years have been out of town (Milwaukee, Minneapolis, up north). I have no NYE plans this year, although 3van has invited me to see one Robbie Fulks out at a bar.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I just googled that phrase to see if it was a common phrase and came across this (safe for work) set of photos
- excellent for fans of the "so not gonna happen" school of party photography/anthropology.

xpost - I saw that Robbie Fulks was playing up there. I know his drummer, Gerald d0wd, a bit - really good and nice guy too. And an Irish band called The P1nts who I met last summer when I played in Madison sent out an invitation to a NYE show.


― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

(Irish band with very cute gals, I should say)

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Cool, maybe I will go. I hear he has class A stage patter, which I am a fan of.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

If you've got time to spare and a printer at work, it's worth reading his September 2001 tour diary (and his other 'my day' diaries too).

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

hey chicago! yr airport is very clean, but i wish i could internet in it for free.

― a_p (a_p), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

also i could really go for a cigarette.

― a_p (a_p), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Internet personality Jon Williams called me from O'Hare last night.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't have yr number ;_;

― a_p (a_p), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I heard a really annoying solo (free jazz) sax piece on the way to work. It was like someone going "heyheyheyheyguesswhatguesswhatguesswhatheyheyguessguesswhat" and then screaming in your ear. I kept listening to it because it wasn't talk radio.

And THAT'S why it's a good thing that Chicago Public Radio made the decision to change their format.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Or wait. Maybe it wouldn't be a good thing for you, considering that you kept listening.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Chicago Public Radio never plays free jazz.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I wouldn't know. That wasn't my point.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I misread what Jordan was saying anyway, so my point didn't make sense.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

also i could really go for a cigarette.

i always ask the cops at the end of the security line how long they think the wait is, they're usually pretty accurate. if it's a short enough wait, and i need one bad enough, i'll go out and then go through security again.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Remember what Bill Pullman on Lost Highway played? Was that free jazz?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

hi dere i am in england.

curry + beerz + family = best ever

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Sad day today: I am disconnecting my cable. I just don't watch TV when I'm living alone, but I'm still going to miss a couple of shows that I would DVR.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey. Where is SArah?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

haven't had cable in close to 2 years. you'll miss it more than you think.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't miss it. It's nice to catch the Daily Show at the gym once in awhile though.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

My history with cable, beginning in 2000

2000-2001: got digital cable (was sort of living with a sig. other), enjoyed it.

2002: moved, broke up with S.O. New house had cable still running. Hardly watched it at all ever.

2003: Ice storm knocks down cable. Jesse hauls out ladder and reconnects cable (while wearing yellow Playtex gloves to protect me from the power lines)--still doesn't watch it.

2003-early 2006: No cable.

20006: Get cable in early spring. Go to New Orleans. Kenan watches cable for me. Return from NO, live with Courtney, watch cable. Courtney leaves, I stop watching TV again.

TV is a social activity for me.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I can watch Lost and Daily Show online. That's all I really need. Except for Big Style Small Spaces or whatever it's called. I fucking love that show.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I had free cable all through college (either in the dorms or at my apartment, where my roommates' cancelled it when I mooved in but it just kept coming) and it ruined me for paying for it.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I read that RF tour diary, pretty good stuff.

"Why, even if he had, would the sound still have sucked? Why are the rooms we're playing so ill-suited to our show? Why don't they have mikes? Why can't anybody do anything?" I'm harshing everyone's post-show mellow. "Tell me something. You have a group like the Waco Brothers. They do one thing, and it's loud. They don't accommodate the rooms the way we do, turning themselves into a folk act for a folkie room, changing to a bar band in a bar, doing old-folks music when they're booked in bingo tents. What the hell do they do when they get booked in places like we've been playing?"

"They do what they do then they never return," says Lorne. "Nobody changes their show night by night the way we do."

Too true.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I have an Arrested Dev. question.

Remember the episode where GOB is going around talking about the price of his suit? And he tells Michael that he doesn't want kids getting their sticky fingers on his $3000 pants? Michael responds, "Oh, you think they'll go right for the pants, huh?" While I think GOB's response is hilarious, I don't get why he spazzes out.

Watch here. http://gobspeechless.ytmnd.com/

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm bored. I should be cleaning. I'm drinking tea again b/c I'm out of Diet Coke. Bleh.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't seen that episode yet, although I did finish Season 1 last night.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah is here in DC, but she has been staying at her sister's place with the rest of her family and has most likely been too busy to even think about ILX. But this evening she will be coming to stay at my parents' place with me for the rest of the week.

Thanks for checking on los gatos, John.

I think Gob in that episode is just supposed to be generally power-crazy? COME ON.

― n/a (n/a), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I cleaned like mad this morning. Went over the living room rug with one of those tape roller things, and it took like 12 sheets to get all the cat hair off of it. Shaking it out does not remove cat hair. Then I rolled up the rug and swept and mopped the whole apartment. Then I cleaned the bathtub. Then I dusted. Then I opened the windows to get the smoky smell out. Then I febreezed. Then I showered. I am a new man.

Remaining problem: cat hair on the bed spread. I'll deal with that shit later.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Next up: watch another episode or two of News Radio, then get back to the freelance work that I've been massively procrastinating on.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

In fact, I think the reason I did so much cleaning was to avoid doing real brain work. It works like that a lot.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Cleaning is always a good way to get out of real work. BUT browsing the internet is a good way to get out of cleaning, though it does remind you that you're supposed to be doing real work in a way that cleaning does not.

xpost-- I know he's supposed to be power hungry, but I just wondered what he was going to say. "Should" what?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I've reached a point of feeling powerless to clean. Perhaps if I changed out of my bathrobe into shorts and put on some flip-flops instead of going barefoot....

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

You know what? The 3-prong outlets in my house--of which there are only 3--are actually not grounded! I pulled out the Playtex gloves again and did a little electritioning and was saddened to find that the grounding screw has nothing attached to it.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude. The suckiness of the wiring in your apartment never ends.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, when do Jeff and Jenny get back?

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

No, it only lives on through my rewiring.

xpst-- tonight.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I have found that the easiest way to clean cat hair off of cloth, such as rugs and couches, is with a slightly damp sponge, especially one with a rough Brillo side. The problem is you have to keep rinsing the cat hair off the sponge.

― n/a (n/a), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

ihttp://i.walmart.com/i/p/09/78/03/99/51/0978039951510_150X150.jpg

― n/a (n/a), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Nick -- I never thought of using a sponge. I happen to have a bunch of them around. With a rough side. I'll try that. Yer teh best housewife ever.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I will try that too. I've tried lint rolling, vacuuming, etc.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I just got a weird phone call. Monique from the office, who nobody really likes anyway except for our old pervert boss, who only likes her because she's a tall blonde with fake tits. Anyway, she a total dizzy dingbat, and she called me and said "Hey, Kenan! You wanna come to the office tomorrow and help me move boxes?!" She was loud, in some kind of bar, and clearly drunk. I said, "Um... I'm not really in the mood to move boxes. What's the angle?" She said, "Well, I can't find any guys to move things for me this week." I said, "That's because we're all on vacation." She stuttered a little as she said, "Wait, this isn't Joe?" "No, it's not Joe." Honey, you called me by my name. You knew exactly who you were trying to sucker into this shit work. I said, "That's a good idea, though. You call Joe. He's big and strong."

Weird. This can't be company sanctioned behavior.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

it's drunk behavior, bro.

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

ps - they've broken out the irish music. jaysus.

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

It's obviously drunken behavior, but even then, it's weird. It's like, nobody really likes you. You want people to help you make? Make some friends first.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

people to help you MOVE, i meant

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

otherwise, it sounds like she needs potty training.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

hey, i'm meeting jon for beers at tuman's around 5:30 if anyone wants to come out to the ukie village. nick, sarah, great timing on leaving town, we'll be like four blocks from your house.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

TT @ T(uman's)? I might get into town too late :( Somebody txt me and let me know what's up.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

dan, we're here now. me, jon, kenan, txt me when you get in.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 23:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Evan: Death by jig!

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 28 December 2006 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Kev, I misunderstood due to reading too fast, I thought you were talking about tomorrow.

Let me know if anything's happening then, I guess!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 28 December 2006 01:02 (seventeen years ago) link

danno, txt received. i'm drunk. i don't think kenan or jon are.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Thursday, 28 December 2006 01:06 (seventeen years ago) link

fuckin' amateurs

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 28 December 2006 01:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse is an old fuddy duddy.

We're home.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Thursday, 28 December 2006 04:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi, Home!

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 28 December 2006 04:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I am so sorry, bad jokes are all the energy I have tonight.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 28 December 2006 04:36 (seventeen years ago) link

HELLO. I missed you all. I still want to go out for TT tomorrow! Anywhere! I don't work so I am not limited by geography or work clothes. I can't read six days worth of ILX messages so if you hockey pucks want to go out tomorrow, say so!

My parents have a dedicated mini ice maker machine just for their bar area. I miss it so much!!!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 28 December 2006 04:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Fuddy duddy?

I have a bruise on my forearm the size of a half-dollar, it's been there since Sunday morning. What happened? I never got totally wasted.

The apartment is pretty fucking clean. I did more spackling. AND I caulked my leaky shoe. Would that I could maintain cleanliness; alas I am a man of extremes and this is a long-running trait.

By the way--flip-flops and shorts are way way better for cleaning than a bathrobe.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 05:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Really, why did you call me a fuddy duddy of all things???

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 05:27 (seventeen years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/335967759_4636cd9f07_o.jpg

Kitty is fabulous. Kitty sleeps in a Far Niente box.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 06:00 (seventeen years ago) link

So I hung out with JW tonight, and he's just about the nicest guy in the world. I mean, not to lay it on too thick or anything. He's ok, though.

The only strange point I guess was when I started making bald jokes and Kevin started kicking me under the table. Yeah, it's tacky. But come on. He once basically called me the worst human being in the world. A bald joke or two ain't gonna kill him.

We took a cab home together. We're all good. Until next year.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Thursday, 28 December 2006 06:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, I made the mistake of talking computers with him. He... well... ouch... he just knows way more than me about this. He was so nice about it, but I knew I was getting pwned, little by little, minute by minute.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Thursday, 28 December 2006 06:09 (seventeen years ago) link

So the final score is:

John Williams: bald.

Kenan Hebert: not earning near as much per year as John Williams.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Thursday, 28 December 2006 06:10 (seventeen years ago) link

He's bald?

I didn't expect to make it beyond Best Buy and then dinner, but Courtney and I ate at Dunl@y's on Clark (yuuummmmy grilled veggies the Killer Wild Rice) and returned to BB where beer greased the wheels of her credit card and we got her a wireless router and an external hard drive and then we went to Mikey's on Broadway (see Wine Markups thread for interesting photo of their BYOMeat advertisement).

Anyway, I'm sorry that I didn't make it tonight.

Why would JW make himself seem like such a douche online if he actually is not worthless in person?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 06:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Tonight's 90's Youtube pick: Spacehog!!

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 06:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Why would JW make himself seem like such a douche online if he actually is not worthless in person?

See: certain other people you know.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Thursday, 28 December 2006 06:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Q: Why would JW make himself seem like such a douche online if he actually is not worthless in person?

A: Baldness?

that is an xpost.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 06:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Internalized baldness?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 06:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenan--today in my cleaning spree, nay -- BENDER -- I found so many of your things. Let's get together, tour your apartment and give you back your stuff. It's taking up 1/3 of my sectional.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 06:17 (seventeen years ago) link

ok

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Thursday, 28 December 2006 06:20 (seventeen years ago) link

ily

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 06:22 (seventeen years ago) link

tomorrow?

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Thursday, 28 December 2006 06:22 (seventeen years ago) link

ily tomorrow.

Actually, no. I work the double tomorrow. And Friday. I'm off Saturday. Let's try to arrange some FUNZONE (usage?) for Saturday when I'm off.

WTF: I just found out tonight that Courtney is in NC 2 weekends in a row.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 06:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Saturday is perfect.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Thursday, 28 December 2006 06:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Best Music Video Evar.

I was on the bus tonight next to 2 aging gay men whose conversation about the good old gay days in Chicago was enough to make me pause my iPod. "Awww...Man's Country...I remember when Charlie opened that place up--I was the 2nd man in line--well, actually probably 10th, but still. We should go to Man's Country and take the steam again."

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 07:13 (seventeen years ago) link

BELLS BEER COSTS 3 AMERICAN DOLLARS FOR A 22 OZ GLASS HERE WTF IS UP WITH CHICAGO BEER PRICEZ

I will try to get to TT tomorrow (Old Timer's??), when will you guys be there? Send me txts.

xpost HI JESSE

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 28 December 2006 07:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I have ranted about UP beer prices vs. Chicago beer prices before, so that's old news. But seriously: Winter White. Big glasses. Three bones. What a great deal!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 28 December 2006 07:21 (seventeen years ago) link

No Bells here at all anymore, doncha know, eh.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 07:36 (seventeen years ago) link

You know what is kind of surpising(and maybe a part of the post-911 US)? Grocery stores in (L.P.) Michigan have started posting signs saying that they will not accept Canadian coins. What kind of bullshit is that? Everything up to 99¢ Canadian was always OK in my growing-up years. When I moved to NC and they refused my QE2 coins I was pissed.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 08:01 (seventeen years ago) link

No Bells here at all anymore, doncha know, eh.

Waaah, chriiist eh?

I was telling some Kalamazooers that story tonight and they didn't believe me!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 28 December 2006 08:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I love the exchange upthread where Jesse types "ily" and I pretend that it means something.

Good morning, Chicago. I love this city.

― Learn to ignore what the photographer saw (kenan), Thursday, 28 December 2006 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey. Sorry I couldn't come out with you guys last night. I've had a really rough week: family drama over the holidays and then me making myself anxious for no good reason over the last couple days. So meeting someone new wasn't high up on my list of priorities, although I'd like to see Jon before he leaves town.

I ended up at Simon's last night, where the glögg was not as good as I remembered it (or perhaps just not as good, or strong, as the glögg we get at work), but I was able to relax a bit. This morning I'm feeling jittery again, though. Fuck.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 December 2006 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't get glogg.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Thursday, 28 December 2006 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Mulled wine when it's cold out... I get that. I make that at home, over a warm stove. Glogg is too commercial.

;)

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Thursday, 28 December 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Does John Williams want to come to TT? Do we want to have TT at Old Timer's, just for shits and giggles? Does John C. want to come to TT? Does he want to have it at Old Timer's?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 28 December 2006 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Kitty sleeps in a Far Niente box.

Classy!

May be able to make it to TTs Tnight.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 28 December 2006 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that really your cat, Jesse? Are you sure it is not plush?

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 28 December 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

ily

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Conversation I walked into in the coffee shop, between and old regular and the long-haired/mutton-chopped baristas:

Old guy: Gerald Ford! Gerald Ford! He was a giant! Giant!

Barista (to other barista): I thought he was talking about the guy from Princess Bride, you know, Andre.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 28 December 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay Eric! I will call you later.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 28 December 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, someone pick up the new Reader that should come out today and see if the FF feature is in there (I don't know why it wouldn't be, but it probably won't be online until tomorrow, so I won't get to read it until then).

― n/a (n/a), Thursday, 28 December 2006 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't come to TT tonight: I have band practice. :(

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 December 2006 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, because I'm a pedant, no "h" in Jon Williams's name.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 December 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I knew that 30 seconds after i typed it. No sense in correcting it, though.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Thursday, 28 December 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I wouldn't have even said anything had Jenny not repeated it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 December 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Lookit:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/125/336389775_0337129196_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/159/336389218_4b5edd499b_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/130/336382964_39374acceb_o.jpg

Why did people put hay and fingers on gravestones in the olden days? I used to walk past that graveyard on the way to elementary school and I finally made it back there to take some pictures when we were visiting for Christmas.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 28 December 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Picked up a copy of the Reader at lunch. Holy cats, that's a fine (and sizeable!) article about the FFs.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 December 2006 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

(Kendrick wrote a blurb about C-n-st-a, too!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 December 2006 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Holy cats, that's a fine (and sizeable!) article about the FFs.

That's sweet. I remembered Nick mentioning something about an article in the Reader so I was checking for it last weekend when I was in town.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 28 December 2006 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Great photos, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 December 2006 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

C-n-st-a

I don't know what word I was trying to obfuscate here.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 December 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

cunsta

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 28 December 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

That's what I would call your band if I hated you guys (which I do not).

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 28 December 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Come here and entertain me, all of you.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Cunt Nasty

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Thursday, 28 December 2006 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Good start.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I spilled a few drops of Vernors on my laptop keyboard. What should I do about that? It's making my Enter key stick a little bit. I'm afraid to pull the key off b/c I've done that before and it's a bear to get back on.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sorry. I don't want to talk about that.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Cuntastic

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 28 December 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Cuntsta?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Clearly only the dudes are online right now.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 28 December 2006 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Did you know?

33. Eating a packet of crisps a day is equivalent to drinking five litres of cooking oil a year.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

45. Cows can have regional accents, says a professor of phonetics, after studying cattle in Somerset

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

45a. BBC News online missed putting a period on that sentence, thus eroding their readership's esteem and credibility.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Love that Reader article, and Newberry's photo too. And you guys even get a blurb on the cover of section one. I really like that the writer works on getting the details of your stories straight, so that it covers the different influences and paths and becomes the opposite of pidgeon-holing. Viva the FFs.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 28 December 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm. It does not appear to be online.

I assume it appears in the music section? I'll have to go grab a new copy since I always dispose of that part.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll have to go grab a new copy since I always dispose of that part.

!

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 28 December 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

¿

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't read that part. I grab a copy and that and any inserts go in the trash straightaway. Sometimes I keep it with me on the train and throw it in the newspaper recycling bin.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Ð

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 28 December 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

It's just funny because it's the first part that I go for.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 28 December 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

If I take it on the El on a Thursday afternoon/evening, I leave it behind, so that if someone is coming from Rogers Park or somewhere else that doesn't get the Reader 'til Friday they might see it as a gift.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 28 December 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

You can have mine.

I read the letters to the editor, Savage Love, headline articles, Perry Bible Fellowship, reviews of movies, and sometimes books and plays.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Thursday, 28 December 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I have drunk SO MUCH Vernor's over the past week. Like, liters and liters. Cannot get in NYC. In fact there's a Detroit-theme bar called Motor City that has VERNOR'S SIGNS ON THE WALLS but doesn't serve it, the lying bastards.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 28 December 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i love vernors.

if anyone finds a link to the ff article online, can they help a minnesotan out? i can't find it...

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Thursday, 28 December 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not online yet. It probably will go up tomorrow.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 December 2006 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never had Vernor's!

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 28 December 2006 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, it's ginger ale. I thought you were talking about a beer.

― JordanC (JordanC), Thursday, 28 December 2006 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG The Reader! Your picture is all right there and stuff! I haven't read the article yet, but I applaud your sweater choice, Nick.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Friday, 29 December 2006 03:28 (seventeen years ago) link

That's amazingly, totally, shitfuckingly awesome. Congrats you guys. Many hugs.

― Kenan is using Jenny's computer (pullapartgirl), Friday, 29 December 2006 03:31 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e66/LimitedLiabilityGirl/DSC00033.jpg

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 29 December 2006 03:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi miss Laurel!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, so, tell us how you got that pic.

I'm at Jenny and Jeff's place with Jesse. We're watching Ravenous and eating vegetable soup. It wasn't planned that way, but while watching this movie, we're all very glad there's no meat in this.

― Kenan is using Jenny's computer (pullapartgirl), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:44 (seventeen years ago) link

The same guy who took that photo has this neat one of Paul McCartney. Getting your photo taken by him is kind of a rites of passage in Chicago.

We should've had TTs at the Rainbo with you guys, just to flaunt it.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 29 December 2006 06:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Lovely pictures!

Goodbye.

― Jesse on Jeff (Jeff...), Friday, 29 December 2006 06:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Late. Just got home. Surprisingly lucid. Going to read the book that J&J just gave me, by Royko, about Daley #1. It looks really good.

Also, listening to Skip Spence. Man, I love this record.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Friday, 29 December 2006 07:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks for the kind words, all. N3wberry was a delight to work with. Professional but relaxed and relaxing. We'll be back tomorrow and we both have Monday off, so let's get together and hang out in the next couple of days.

― n/a (n/a), Friday, 29 December 2006 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, what are people doing for New Year's Eve? We have no plans.

― n/a (n/a), Friday, 29 December 2006 14:05 (seventeen years ago) link

the bottle is sold out so unless jim or jered put me on the list (unlikely since i will not ask either of them to do this) i will probably celebrate at home. i might go to tuman's early in the evening to get drunk but i'll be home before midnight.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 29 December 2006 14:08 (seventeen years ago) link

hey, is there an online version of the reader article? i want to read it!

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Friday, 29 December 2006 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

the reader.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 29 December 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

That's a great article.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 29 December 2006 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Any tips on where to buy a new computer online? Newegg maybe?

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 29 December 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Great article! I sent it to all the Top Models, Sarah.

When in June are y'all getting married? Leaf & I are on the 30th . . . not that it will conflict or anything, considering that since my side of the family is so huge I'm only inviting like, one or two friends. Literally.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Friday, 29 December 2006 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

June 2.

― n/a (n/a), Friday, 29 December 2006 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Last night I heard that an acquaintance had his bachelor party the day after Xmas and is getting married on New Year's Day. WTF? Who wants to have their anniversary on the most hungover day of the year?

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 29 December 2006 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you getting married in Chicago or Virginia or . . . .? June 2nd will be great. I actually wish we were getting married earlier or in the fall.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Friday, 29 December 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Do they still have Egghead Software? I used to love that place when I was a kid.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

And by "they" I mean "the world."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

BABBAGE'S

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

That was my free-videogame-demos-at-the-mall joint as a kid.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG I totally forgot about that place. Yeah, it seemed like it was only in malls.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Egghead Software was founded in 1984 as a computer software retail company. It grew into a chain with over 200 stores in the United States, primarily located in shopping malls. Faced with declining revenues, in 1998, the company shifted its focus to online business, closing its retail locations and selling entirely through its egghead.com website.

Egghead was hurt by a December of 2000 revelation that hackers had accessed its systems and potentially compromised customer credit card data. The company filed for bankruptcy in August of 2001. After a deal to sell the company to Fry's Electronics for $10 million fell through, its assets were acquired by Amazon.com for $6.1 million instead.

Among other things, Egghead's customers could voluntarily and freely sign up for a Que Card, a card that would guarantee a slightly reduced price on certain items.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Guys, I am listening to a WALKMAN right now. Old school!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Walkmen. I wish I still had one.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi, I'm back at work. For one fucking day! I'm kind of pissed about this. But on the bright side, this is the first time I've come back after a few days off and haven't had to put out a half dozen fires, so that's good.

I echo Nick's sentiment that we should get together and hang out sometime soon. I don't have NYE plans either but I may be heading over to Detroit. If not, though, I'm up for anything.

Also, please accept my kudos, FFs, for a great article. I feel proud to say I know you!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm drinking a rice shake that includes "spirulina, blue green algae, and nutrutious grasses" in the ingredients. it's quite delish.

in other news, i think i will finally sleep well tonight as leaf is due home this evening. i sure have missed that guy.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Where did he go? China again?

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, I have this awesome solo piano improvisation from like 1998, like Keith Jarrett meets Thurston Moore or something.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Now that I've read the article, I have to agree - it was really good! I totally laughed at the quote from Sarah about how badly it messed her up for her mom to get into Def Leppard and Nick's Boyracer obsession. The article made me want to buy your album and be your friend all over again, seriously.

Yes to getting together. I understand EZ and Cuntstanza are playing an early show at the Beat Kitchen on Saturday. I'd really like to go to that - a 5 pm show is totally my old lady speed! Maybe we could all do that?

We don't have NYE plans either. If I could have all my dearest wishes come true, I would want to find an uncrowded low key bar where we could all hang out and drink beer and listen to a juke box (isn't that what I always want to do though?). Chillin' with pals at home would be cool, too. I'm into that nowadays. Old lady thing again, I guess.

Three cheers for getting married on even days in June! Although I am like Kelsey - I wished we could have gotten married in October or November. Did you know: January is the least popular month for weddings?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I probably mentioned this before, but I am going to the Driftwood Bar for NYE. In a lot of ways, I wish I could hang out with you guys, but it's sort of a tradition, and I'm excited about playing DJ.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes to getting together. I understand EZ and Cuntstanza are playing an early show at the Beat Kitchen on Saturday. I'd really like to go to that - a 5 pm show is totally my old lady speed! Maybe we could all do that?

hey, i could do that considering i'll be at the beat kitchen for the criminal iq holiday party later that night. i wouldn't mind getting my drunk on early.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd be down for that too.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

also lol @ "Cuntstanza"

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I am working NYE and the brilliancy that is the investing partners decided that we would be open until midnight and have a Champagne toast. The thing is, C35 is the kind of place people go early before they hit their destination. Fucking waste of my time. Except getting to drink free Champagne (or maybe just cheap bubbly--probably).

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 29 December 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I totally laughed at the quote from Sarah about how badly it messed her up for her mom to get into Def Leppard and Nick's Boyracer obsession.

me too! great article.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Friday, 29 December 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm depressed/angry as fuck, I don't think I'll be on ILX the rest of the day. Have a good weekend/New Year all.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 29 December 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

That's just horrible.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 29 December 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

He's not even the first person FROM THAT BAND to get shot. New Orleans is so fucked.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 29 December 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Damn. It was 5:30 in the afternoon. Was he robbed or anything, or was this just random?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 29 December 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I have no idea. I know exactly where that block is too. Doesn't sound like he was robbed but I want to know if it was random or if someone had it in for him specifically.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 29 December 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I wondered that too. I used to drive there (Dumaine and Broad) daily and at all hours.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 29 December 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry to kill thread. I'm at home drinking a beer and trying to get my mind right before going back to work.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 29 December 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Did you know him personally?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I wasn't his best friend or anything but I went to see him play a bunch of times, sent some stuff down after the hurricane, listened to his recordings about eight million times. Some other guys in my band know him from way farther back, played in the same band, etc.

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Please start talking about minutiae again people

― JordanC (JordanC), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

How about this: my housemate got norovirus over Xmastime (actually Christmas morning) and so did his entire family. They all had to go to the ER to be rehydrated after spending literally hours on end puking. He says he lost close to 12 pounds over the course of a couple days due to not being able to keep anything down (and he's a skinny guy already). Also, he passed out (while puking), fell down in the bathroom, and got a concussion!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ WORST XMAS EVER

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

To top it all off, he's still contagious apparently! I'm nervous as hell!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, that's a little disgusting I know... but man oh man oh man I hope I'm safe.

Tho I could stand to lose a few lbs.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 29 December 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

That's what I was thinking. That I could stand to lose a few pounds, not you.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 29 December 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

So if you get it and you're contagious, I'll come over.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 29 December 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link


Dan: norovirus is spread via fecal-oral contact
I'm just saying
me: oh dear
yet you say you're worried about contracting it from your roommate
Dan: apparently it can be spread via other means (sneezing or whatever) but that is the primary vector
me: is there something you'd like to tell me, dan?
Dan: CORPROPHAGIA
me: you naugthy boy

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 29 December 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I knew you were going to do that

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 29 December 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm predictable.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 29 December 2006 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

And you used me as a means of letting the world know your secret.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Friday, 29 December 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

IT'S TRUE I HAVE WANTED TO TELL YOU ALL FOR SO LONG

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 29 December 2006 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Guess I killed the thread pretty dead too

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 29 December 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan, I'm so sorry. Somebody doesn't have to be your best friend to have an impact on your life, you know? Grief is grief. What a fucking shame, too.

Sorry to re-seriousify the thread.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming: Um, Dan... gross.

So, then shall we plan to meet up at the Beat Kitchen? Jesse has already promised me he would go. Doors open at 4:30.

We're about to go see a movie, either Children of Men or Pan's Labyrinth. Yay movies!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Friday, 29 December 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Um, Dan... gross.

if we can't joek about shit eating on the internets, the terrorists have already won

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 29 December 2006 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I really want to see Children of Men.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 December 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Another time when I like my job: trying to figure out whether "Ninja Turtles" needs to be written out as "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 December 2006 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

(Editor says it does.)

GR--N Z-BR-A in 2.5 hours. Currently salivating.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 December 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

And listening to a recording I made in 1997. I plugged my keyboard into a guitar amp for the first time and tried to do some sort of distorted organ slather, no doubt influenced by Yo La Tengo. For some reason, though, the jam also features me horribly "scratching" my vinyl copy of Saturday Night Fever, so that occasionally you hear "stayin' a... stay- ... stayin' ali- ..."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 December 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i've been out of work for a few hours, went to lunch w/my friend n0rah and had a $25 steak, now i'm at the bar. what's going on tonight?

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 29 December 2006 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

What are you posting on -- phone or laptop?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 December 2006 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

lapdance.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 29 December 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

what's going on tonight?

2x

For me, for now, video games and beerz. I feel like I haven't really sat still for a week. But I'm up for doing something in a while after I've sufficently numbed my brain.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Friday, 29 December 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

towga got me guitar hero II but it won't load on ps2, defective disc... :(

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 29 December 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Prob drinking w/ my sister in Grand Rapids. Exciting, I know!

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 29 December 2006 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

fuck, i wanna go to the gerald ford library. next time you're home laurel. seriously, if any chicagoans wanna go i'll rent a car.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Friday, 29 December 2006 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Children of Men is one of those movies where I got burned out on seeing the preview too many times (both times I saw The Departed, both times I saw Miami Vice, when I saw Babel and maybe one or two other times), especially because it seemed to give away much of the story. But now the reviews are so good that I'll probably see it.

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 30 December 2006 01:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi, just popping in to wish everyone a happy old year while I still have the chance.

My friend B. saw an interview with the F--- F-------s in the Reader and clipped it to send to me. That was nice of him, no?

That is all.

― Casuistry (casuistry), Saturday, 30 December 2006 02:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Children of Men was okay.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Saturday, 30 December 2006 03:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Otto/K and I are meeting at teh Holiday Club at 10 if anyone's interested.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Saturday, 30 December 2006 03:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Children of Men was a fuck of a lot better than Another Gay Movie, which we just suffered through because we made the mistake of letting Jesse pick the evening's cinematic entertainment.

That movie was so bad I want to walk down Halstead and do some bashing.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 30 December 2006 04:53 (seventeen years ago) link

What a terrible terribleterer;afkj;sdkflj movie. I'm so sorry. I didn't think it would be good, but I didn't think it would be as completely truly horrible as it was.

― Jesse on Jeff's (Jeff...), Saturday, 30 December 2006 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I did warn J/J that they probably wouldn't want to see it. I just didn't know that I wouldn't want to see it. (Jaymc, look away)--I want that 2 hrs of my life back.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Saturday, 30 December 2006 05:00 (seventeen years ago) link

OOPS. THAT WAS JESSE ABOVE..... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

― Jesse on Jeff's (Jeff...), Saturday, 30 December 2006 05:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Was Scott Thompson good at least?

― JordanC (JordanC), Saturday, 30 December 2006 05:02 (seventeen years ago) link

He was OK I guess. Nothing special.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 30 December 2006 05:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow. When a concert lets out at the Aragon the Red line and the Lawrence stop become hellish.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 30 December 2006 05:53 (seventeen years ago) link

the aragorn balrog

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Saturday, 30 December 2006 07:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Worst was new years' eve a few years ago, 'Moe.' was at the Aragon and I was going from Wilmette to my place near Clark/Division in the middle of the night. Helped some partiers get to their hotel, at least.

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 30 December 2006 08:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I went home last night but Sayjal convinced me to go out and get a beer at SoFo. I had a double Blue Moon and we played darts. While we were there who should appear but the guy who wanted to penetrate Sheila and me at Big Chicks.

There was a bizzare crowd at SoFo--they were just like douchebag Wrigleyville guys--loud, sporty, stripey shirts, hooting, saying things like "Bro" and giving high fives--but they were gay.

Ate some yummy and very cheap tacos at at El Quijote.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Saturday, 30 December 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been eating a lot of German food lately. Sure puts the fucking weight on, whether it tastes good or not. All German food is the same. There is no German food out there that is healthier than McDonalds. Learned that the hard way.

― LynnK (klynn), Saturday, 30 December 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

cats love me.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Saturday, 30 December 2006 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Who's going to the Beat Kitchen? What time are ya'll getting there? Let's meet up.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 30 December 2006 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Sarah and I will be there sometime between 4:30 and 5:00.

I have a $15 iTunes gift certificate, recommend me an album to download.

― n/a (n/a), Saturday, 30 December 2006 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Hm. Having a hard time imagining what you don't already have. Do you have Lindstrom? I like that one a lot.

Also, Chicago II.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Saturday, 30 December 2006 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Electrelane, Axes?

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 30 December 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Axes.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Saturday, 30 December 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, you've recommended something to me, anyway.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Saturday, 30 December 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Speaking os Chicago II, I wrote my dad earlier today and thanked him for it. Because Jeff was listening to Chicago Transit Authority when I was there the other night, and we were both like, "This is great shit." And then he asked me what else he should download, in a very general way, and I was, "My dad always loved Chicago II." So Jeff snagged it.

It didn't come in in time for me to here it that night, but I downloaded it today, then sat there thinking about the excellent taste in music that dad had once upon a time, and I wrote him a little thank-you note. MAN, that's a good record. The whole progression on side 2 from "Make Me Smile" back around to the end of that song... it all just kicks my ass.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Saturday, 30 December 2006 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Imagine Jimmy Hendrix crossed with Blood Sweat and Tears. Only better than what you're imagining.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Saturday, 30 December 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

whois klynn?

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Sunday, 31 December 2006 02:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Why is it so hard for me to find the animated gif with all the cats? (Strokin my harblz, etc). Help.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Sunday, 31 December 2006 08:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm on ur internet, hidin ur catz

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Sunday, 31 December 2006 09:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Hello Chicago. I am in you for 24 hours. I know Mr. Dan the Yooper in case I need a password or something to post on this thread as a non-Chicagoan.

Anyway, it is New Year's Eve, and I doubt anyone is going to see this, but if anyone could suggest the best possible option for take-out Indian food on New Year's Day it would be great. If not I'm just going to drive up to Devon and see who's open.

― joygoat (joygoat), Monday, 1 January 2007 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to have as many people inside me as possible, for as long as possible.

― they call me Chicago (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 04:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Bhabi's Kitchen, 6352 N. Oakley Blvd - right off Devon. I love that place!

Happy new year, suckas! I really like you guys, and that's not just bad champagne talking. I've said it before, but I'll say it again: ILX yields quality humans.

Also, N&S - just FYI, apparently we DID see the British ending of The Descent! Whoa!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 1 January 2007 07:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, happy new year! How'd the squash turn out? I stayed in and nursed my voice and watched the movie version of Mamet's Edmond - worth seeing.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 1 January 2007 08:09 (seventeen years ago) link

happy ukcing new year!!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 January 2007 08:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Happy new year!

The squash risotto turned out pretty well, I think. I wouldn't make it every day because it's a little time consuming (and involves more delicious butter and cheese than I prefer to eat regularly) but it's a great, relatively easy special occasional dinner.

I'm excited because we have leftover champaign and leftover Italian bread and that can only mean one thing: mimosas and French toast for NYD brunch. Now I just have to wait for Jeff to wake up.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 1 January 2007 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm just going to drive up to Devon and see who's open.

If my Vietnamese neighborhood is any indication, you'll find that EVERYONE is WIDE open.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 1 January 2007 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Last night every douchebag and his douchebag friend was out, but I found out that there is an escape--O'C@ll@han's on Hubbard has a bar on the 2nd floor that you access through a door marked "Employees Only" and it's industry-only and therefore way way less crowded and somewhat less douchey and the drinks are cheaper. Hoorah.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 1 January 2007 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

And it's industry-only every night.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Monday, 1 January 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Can I go?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 1 January 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Happy New Year.

I had a completely, totally sober, in fact damn near motionless New Year. I recommend trying this at least once. Julia says hi.

Then at about three Julia's roommates came in all giddy and making noise, including later the noise of two very large lesbians attempting to get it on on a creaky futon. Comedy.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

And it's industry-only every night.

The conversation must be insufferable.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Monday, 1 January 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

OR AWESOME.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 1 January 2007 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Depends on the industry. Restaurant and bar workers: awesome.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 19:53 (seventeen years ago) link

STFU all of you, Daddy's head hurts.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 1 January 2007 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Suck it up, son.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Hepatitis C is attacking my head.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 1 January 2007 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, I sympathise quite a bit. Not at the moment, but your description is exactly why I can't abide champagne.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Champagne is teh evil. If you're feeling fancy, have martinis all night. For all its evils, gin is still a better hangover than champagne.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Gin and tonic until about 3 and then switched to Grand Marnier. At 4 we went back to my co-worker's house and drank Champagne. I love Champagne. I'm drinking some right now. And I do mean stuff from Champagne, France.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 1 January 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

How to Drink
by Kenan Hebert

Dozens sold!

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think Julia likes the Marx Brothers as much as I do. She kept saying, "This is so silly!" I mean, with a smile on her face, but still. Silly is an understatement.

The "Going to War" number in Duck Soup, where a huge grand room full of people sing and dance about the joys of war, and end up writhing on the floor like some vaudeville version of Guernica... wow.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

the marx brothers were fun.

happy new year all.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Monday, 1 January 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know about you guys, but there's no way I could drink martinis all night. That's why I finally took up Bud.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 1 January 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Liquor then beer, never fear.

It took me a long time to figure out that the reason that rule works is because if you start putting beer on top of liquor, you're going to have to go to bed soon.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Speaking of hangovers! My favorite morning-after scenario ever:

http://www.tomatonation.com/morning.shtml

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 1 January 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

haha

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Movie line of the night, from Foreign Correspondent: "If you knew how much I love you, you'd faint."

That's awesome.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

* Jenny's squash risotto was great. I was full and I still ate seconds.

* The Descent and A Scanner Darkly = both worth watching, I'd say. Neither is genius, but both were entertaining and successful at what they were trying to achieve (A Scanner Darkly = trippiness, The Descent = scariness).

* Driving to J&J's house = a bad idea. I don't know why I did this, even after Jenny told me not to. Nowhere to park. Ended up parking at Damen and Addison and taking a taxi over.

* Taking a cab at 1:30 A.M. on New Year's Day = fun. Lots of stupid drunk people standing in the street trying to hail your cab even though you're already in it.

― n/a (n/a), Monday, 1 January 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

JBR and I tried to get a car service home, but they were charging FORTY-FIVE DOLLARS for a $15 trip. We got out of the car and took the train home.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 1 January 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Champagne is better with orange juice in it!

When Amanda and Dan come back from EUROPA I think we should schedule another karaoke outing.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 1 January 2007 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

That's such bullshit! Champagne is delicious!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 1 January 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

No it's not! Shut up you stupid cow!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 1 January 2007 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Shouldn't that be, "fucking dyke"?

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I still don't get the deliciousness of champagne. But Jesse and I have had this argument before, and I'll not revisit it.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Good bubbly is yeasty, citrusy and smells of sugar cookies. It's as much about the smells as the taste. Moreso than regular wine I think.

― Jesse is posting on Jenny's (pullapartgirl), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I conceded last time we had this argument that maybe I wasn't drinking the best stuff. If not, I'll do so now.

THE END.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Good bubbly is yeasty, citrusy and smells of sugar cookies.

Yes.

Still holed up in Rogers Park, but considering Hold Steady/Sybris/ChinUpChinUp at House of Blues in a few hours...

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Hold Steady is doing another show tonight?

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Yep, in the main room. Tickets are something like $18.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Starts about 7, with two bands opening.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i'll pass. once a year is fine. I'll play the new album at around 10 and feel a certain repartee.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

that's not at all the right word, is it?

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

what's the word I want? Like a metaphysical connection.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

XP: Nope.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

You need to just shut up.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

You head hepatitis is making you very curt.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

That's Jesse who has headpatitis.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Sunset makes me sad. Because for a few minutes right before sunset, there's this big orange glow in the room, and every time a train goes by it blocks the sun, so I get a little blackout. And I'm like, "Who dimmed the lights? Oh, riiiight!" It's kinda cool.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

One of the few advantages of living 100 feet away from train tracks, right at eye level.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm staying right near the N. Rogers Park Metra stop, so every few hours a train passes by and I hear the clanging bell as it slows down.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

sometimes I wish for every few hours, instead of once every two or three minutes. Like at about 6 in the morning, when I'm not sleeping well anyway.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

i will be at the hold steady show!

― t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost And oh God, when the Purple line starts running! It goes by at full fucking speed in the morning, and it's deafening, and it shakes the floor, and I wish to hell Chicago had a subway system instead of this stupid El thing.

xpost
Hi, Todd!

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, I'd hate having a dark underground subway ride from Howard to the Loop.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

hi kenan!
happy new year folks!
i had a nice time getting wasted at a friends place and drank some dom perignon!

― t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I watched a little bit of The Blues Brothers a few weeks ago and was trying to figure out where their railroad flat was - on Van Buren, maybe?

Clanging bell outside right now.

Nice way to roll, Todd - how was the Dom?

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

truthfully, i am not well-versed in champagne, but it was amazingly smooth and tasty compared to the other bottles we had which cost between 5 and 20 dollars each.

― t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Monday, 1 January 2007 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

We've decided to stay in today. Yes a shocking decision.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Monday, 1 January 2007 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm with you, bruthaman.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I know that the Blues Brothers' hotel is a long-demolished rat-house in the loop. I read it somewhere. Can't find it again, though.

― they call me candle guy (kenan), Monday, 1 January 2007 23:47 (seventeen years ago) link

All I wanna do is zooma zoom zoom.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 00:24 (seventeen years ago) link

np. Blues Traveler - Run Around.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 00:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Went to see Children of Men this afternoon, then dinner at Siam Country. Now I feel like collapsing, totally exhausted after the last three days.

NYE was fun, but we were sharing the bar (it was split pretty evenly between our group and another), and so it didn't seem appropriate to hijack the sound system, even though I'd put in a good couple hours putting together a dance playlist. I was promised that we'd go back to our usual style next year.

Drinks: about four gin and tonics, and a couple of Harps.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link

* Driving to J&J's house = a bad idea. Nowhere to park.

OTM

Although I eventually did find a spot nearby on Friday after about what, 25 minutes of circling around?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 02:27 (seventeen years ago) link

My NYE = quiet quiet quiet, just like I wanted.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 02:28 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost er, Saturday...

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 02:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Good New Year's Day. Drank some mimosas, made some BM's (and some Bloody Marys too!), watched a couple of so-so movies (Omen '06, Hard Candy).

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 05:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Hard Candy's good - kind of Oleanna to the Nth degree.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 07:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think I've ever seen a two-character movie that I didn't like.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 07:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never met a man I didn't like.

― Will "Fag" Rogers (kenan), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 07:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Hard Candy's good - kind of Oleanna to the Nth degree.

Really? I wrote it off but that makes me want to see it. Maybe.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Happy first morning of work in '07, dudes.

New Year's - Robbie Fulks was pretty great. It was incredible, those guys basically wrote a whole musical just for the NYE show. Comedy, satire, top 10 pop songs revue, props (!), etc. Then welsh rarebit at 3van's house, drunken acoustic jam session (pennywhistle/guitar/hand drums), bed at 6 am. I had big plans to have everyone over for brunch but I had a pretty epic hangover. The works.

Drinks: beer, homemade cherrywine, beer, beer, beer, beer, champagne, gin & tonic, beer, beer

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i've never liked a man i didn't meet.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

That's funny, both my 1+-year relationships have begun online. Not to say that either was a fantastic idea, I 'spose.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

All my fantastic ideas have begun online.

― look at them eating. i bet it tastes real good. (kenan), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Happy first morning of work in '07, dudes.

Same here.

Feels really weird, though. Half the office is still out, and I have nothing to do. I was amped for work this morning, then... blah.

― look at them eating. i bet it tastes real good. (kenan), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm bald?

― jw (ex machina), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi jon.

― look at them eating. i bet it tastes real good. (kenan), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Not yet.

― look at them eating. i bet it tastes real good. (kenan), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Half the office is still out, and I have nothing to do. I was amped for work this morning, then... blah.

Exactly

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan, I saw a van with yooper bumper stickers and Texas plates, please explain?

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

The constitutional right to unhindered interstate travel, I'd wager.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Could have been my friend's older brother, he lives in TX. Dunno if he drives a van though.

But really, we get around, so it could have been anything. That and people seem to like to go up there to vacation a lot. Silly tourista fudgies!

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, I have a yooper bumpersticker and IL plates, which causes more consternation among certan UP folx than most people would expect.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

On my flight out of GR I was seated next to a nice young woman from Manistique who now lives in upper Mass = you people DO get around!

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

ok fuck this. I'm taking a loooong lunch, starting... now.

― look at them eating. i bet it tastes real good. (kenan), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, the managers here are ASSHATS. They've managed to piss off the professional society whose journals we publish to the point that they're (the society) issuing an RFP to see if they can get a better deal from other publishing houses. This is what we get for treating an ostensible non-profit like a profit-maximizing monetization machine. THANX DUDES

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I am swamped. The upside is that it's almost lunchtime.

What I meant to start out with was... HELLO! HAPPY NEW YEAR! WOO HOO! * streamers *

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

happy new year, Chicago! just got back into town last night!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't really like 2-person movies as much as others. I'll have to think about this further, but it may be b/c in order to make up for the variety of voices they tend to have overly-clever dialogue and restless cinematography. They make me wish I was watching a play instead of a movie.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

While it's on my mind I would like to express my utter disgust with The Goodbye Girl and Sportsnight. Their snappy, lively, witty dialogue arouses in me the urge to kill.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, Jesse. you're, like, the anti-me. I love overly-clever dialogue. and Sports Night. I suspect I would dislike The Goodbye Girl, though, because isn't Richard Dreyfuss in it?

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Night ?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, that Sports Night. though, to be fair, overly-clever dialogue can be godawful, viz. everything else Aaron Sorkin has ever done.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, that show.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

See I kind of liked The West Wing for the first few seasons but I have never met anyone (ok, check that: one person who was just a giant sports nut, and now you) who honestly liked Sports Night. Just thought it a little odd, but to each their own when it comes to bad TV. (for example, I watched several episodes of Heroes last night)

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Sports Night is not bad tv! I mean business! I was under the impression that no one liked it because no one actually watched it.

I like bad TV, too, but Sports Night is not it.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Fans of two-person movies should rent Conversations with Other Women when it comes to DVD. I thought it was fantastic, one of my favorite films of this year, with strong performances from Helena Bonham Carter and Aaron Eckhart, engaging in clever, flirtatious back-and-forths for 80 minutes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I never saw Sports Night, but I was under the impression that it was a lamented classic that never got the ratings it deserved, a la Arrested Development.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Sports Night is not about sports.

I would guess that people could defend SN by saying it was "intelligent" etc, so I would think it doesn't fit into the generally-accepted canon of Bad TV. But it defines bad entertainment for me.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

how I defend SN (I guess this is of interest to nobody except maybe Jesse, so sorry everyone!):

it did a really good job of drawing out complex and indidvidual relationships between each of its characters and everybody else. it drew a social picture really well and remained more or less faithful to it. I admit, though, that I dig super-mannered dialogue and I get why many people don't.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

uh, I meant "individual"

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I am not arguing about what constitutes bad TV on the internet :)

xpost: west wing did that too, at least at first

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

My ex would not shut up about Sports Night, Goodbye Girl, and All in the Family, all of which I dearly hate and which are now evidence of how it could never work between us.

xpost--I haven't seen SN since '01 so my critique (beyond "hated it") will be pretty flimsy, but I suppose I didn't like the way it dealt with relationships because it used really broad strokes and the writers cared more about hearing their own voices than giving the characters' their own. Yeh, I think that covers it-- Goodbye Girl and SN are like watching a puppet show.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Dinner with Andre

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked Sports Night, but every subsequent Sorkin show I've seen has annoyed me. Go figure.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The reason I even brought this up is that Hard Candy was in the same vein--the characters were not believable because they were way too exaggerated, especially the girl. The problem was that it was hard enough to buy that this girl could be so cunning and smart, but impossible when her dialogue and acting did nothing to betray the fact that she was 14 y.o. I would have probably really liked it if that had been corrected and she had been made to seem like a child putting on being an adult. As it stands, the only reason I have to believe that she is 14 is that it's stated. It reminded me of The Good Son in that way.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

it used really broad strokes

agree to disagree.

the writers cared more about hearing their own voices than giving the characters' their own

anyone on a Sorkin show speaks Sorkin, so that's fair. I do think there were character-appropriate variations in Sports Night, but, like I said, I do get why people dislike his stuff. I get it a lot better after latter-day West Wing and fucking Studio 60.

xpost: omg, Jordan, you and I are totally alone on this SN superiority!

I love My Dinner with Andre.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Sayjal is pimping the FF through email.

I should watch the WW, this might work better in drama.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/160/342895819_c2dcad05b5_o.jpg

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

xp first four seasons are fucking solid imo

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a character on there who I'm told I resemble. Press secretary?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

she's the greatest, Jesse! CJ, played by Allison Janney. best Sorkin character ever, probably.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm guessing it's probably this dude:

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/7/70/240px-Joshua_Malina.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

No, no. It's a man who wears glasses.

Yes, him. And now that I see that picutre, I'm reeealy not happy.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude's character was a total shithead too.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

During his tenure on The West Wing, Malina was known to the rest of the cast as a tireless prankster. It is said he coated telephones with Vaseline and reset producer Alex Grave's iPod menus to Mandarin Chinese. It is also said he stole some of Bradley Whitford's letterhead stationary and used it in an elaborate prank.

How come actors are always pulling pranks? Makes for good talk-show fodder?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, right. that actor was great on Sports Night, but I wasn't watching West Wing anymore when he arrived.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

just chiming in to agree on sorkin mostly sucking except for sports night. i loved that show.

xxp i've only seen pics of you, jesse, but you don't look anything like that actor to me. (he was jeremy on SN too)

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Wikipedia says he has been in every project Sorkin has ever done, including A Few Good Men on stage.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost People pull pranks at work all the time.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Something that people do when they're forced to be in close proximity for long periods of time? I pulled all kinds of jokes (and had them pulled on me) when I worked at the restaurant.

xpost and what jesse said

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost People pull pranks at work in restaurants all the time.

fixed

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Not only there, but the environment does breed that sort of thing on a larger scale.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeh, the restaurant world is full of pranks. My favorites have involved our VIP Tickets that the waiters get for special requests, VIPs, etc. I got one that said, "Table 107 - Free Dessert - He's asking for a divorce tonight."

One other guy got one that said "Free Dessert - He's coming out to his parents."

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it okay to bring a cat in a cab if you put the cat in a carrier? Will anybody pick you up?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I've never worked in a restaurant.

I guess there were maybe a couple pranks pulled during my theatre days, but I don't really remember much apart from the "I Love Jesus" bandit.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, ILX, which is cuter:

Adorable Francie all curled up and sweet in a little wee basket:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/112/294810319_9cc4de9d0d.jpg?v=0

Or ding dong Brenda in a dumb wine box:

http://flickr.com/images/spaceball.gif

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoops, here is Brenda:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/335967759_4636cd9f07.jpg

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

P@xson says that if she is trying to get a cab when she has a dog she hides the dog a little and then bustles in with her. Try that.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

http://myspacecomedy.com/images/funny/driving-cat.jpg

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm kind of partial to ding dong Brenda.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry Brenda pwns.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Which is awsomer: a neurotic cat in a basket or ..... whatever is going on here?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/50/109792597_39a636e201.jpg

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

That's what I was thinking. Maybe throw a towel over the carrier so by the time the driver figures it out, we're already on the way. Since Sample gets doped up for vet apts. she should be fairly quiet.

XPOST WRONG.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Favorite prank on servers ever: duct taping all salt and pepper shakers together in one long strand and strategically placing them back on the shelf inconspicuously

xpost: I like Francie because shorthair > longhair

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

You oversold the Francie. You should have gone with the sympathy vote.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

OH yeah haterz? Check this out:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/7/11132830_60259c39fe.jpg

Waaaaaay better than Brenda.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

What was going on with the lobster again? Did you bring one home for dinner?

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

The presence of unattractive technology and lightswitch in the back is kind of detracting from the CUET in Francie pic, whereas everything in Brenda photo is quaint and unobtrusive. Francie looks like a better cat, though. LOBSTER PIC IS GENIUS.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

We're judging cats, not photo quality. The light switch is part of the real life fun because when I reach in to turn the light on, sometimes I accidentally jab Francie and she says, "Mrrprprprrrrmmwwwwmwmw???"

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

The lobster is from the Viet-seafood place on ARgyle. I ate him.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

But it's true that you wouldn't know about Francie's amazing light switch alarm capabilities from the pic. Anyway, here is this:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/114/291014187_81db70d526.jpg

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/124/317713845_8987f4fd81.jpg?v=0

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that Orpheus?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

my cousin's children are cuter

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.soulboxmusic.com/catalog2/images/cat-butt-m.jpg

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

no, orpheus has great disdain for cameras. just a silly pic of a black cat.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/29/39017947_03baea3396_o.jpg

Brenda staring down the barrel of a .22.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Damn, I was going to say: Julia's cat has a strawberry house, therefore she wins.

XP: Brenda's not very bright, is she.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Granted, it's only a .22, but Brenda is cuet AND bad-ass.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

A shaved Brenda staring down the barrel of a .22. If anyone is deserving of a sympathy vote here, it's poor CPO Brenda Waterbed.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesse, you have a gun? Wild.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

No, that's my father's gun.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/j_bdules/horus.jpg

there's fluffybutt, who is usually not very photogenic either.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

That's a cute pic, though!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Here's one more of Sample looking very Sample-like:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/101/306880421_6719cc2ca7.jpg

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

...

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay one more:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/114/306891355_d812ff5682.jpg

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Sample looks very much like Jonesy

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait. One more because it's a good shot of Ed's sad face:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/248208690_9c137b90cc.jpg

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Sample's my main homey.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, that's a great photo.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, I like EdChair!

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

That just looks really cozy. The colors are really cool but the content is warm and homey, plus the soft-focus effect of the window in back all make for a great pic.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

hubcap is getting surgery today. a tumor removal. all these photos are making me wish the vet would call & say everything is okay.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, sorry to hear it. i hope hubcap is okay.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks, julia.
sorry to whine in the midst of so much cuteness!

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Awwww... Sample...
Ed doesn't look that sad in the tv pic.

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Kels, I hope hubcap is ok! Does he have regular vet checkups or did you feel a lump?

― Calico (calico), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Kenny rooting around in my sock drawer is a contender for cutest pic.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/18/23966533_26b40b9608.jpg

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Kelsey, I'm so sorry about Hubcap! I will send out positive thoughts to the little guy.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Kenny is too sharp to be cute.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/16/22700720_359e9f9b8d_o.jpg

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

A propos of two-character movies, I had an idea once for a movie that was just a guy staring out his office window in a big skyscraper and talking on the phone for 90 minutes. You can see why I'm not afraid that someone else will steal this idea.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

No surfing internet messageboards?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Not on his office phone, on a cell phone, like right up against the glass. I guess it could get dark or light or something over the course of the movie.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I would totally see that movie, Eric.

I hope Hubcap's surgery goes well, Kelsey!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Eric, I like you a lot but I would not go see that movie.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Eric, do we hear the other end of the conversation?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks everyone.
i found the lump on his side & took him to the vet to get it checked out. i opted to have the surgery & now i'm glad b/c it grew over the holidays! poor guy.
he's so sweet it breaks my heart.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Would stuff happen outside the window?

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i like john's question.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I have no issues with eating lobsters but that pic does make it seem a little weird to have three animals of approximately the same size on your floor, only one of whom will soon be eaten.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Would stuff happen outside the window?

Like another, more interesting movie?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I was just thinking maybe the dude would react if there was something(s) going on out there. But yeah, that too.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

So basically, Phonebooth.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

It would be funny if there were superhero fights, plane crashes, etc. that were just completely ignored.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

slapstick window washers

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

was anything at stake in 'my dinner with andre?' anything in the conversation, i mean?

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd like it if we didn't hear the other end and that it was still somehow suspenseful, like in Babel, though for 90 minutes instead of 30 seconds. And, yeah, we'd see all the pretty stuff outside, as if this were high up in the CNA building or something. Maybe the guy would go and take a leak at some point and we'd see the rest of the office maze.

I like the trappings of a story like this because it does have to stay interesting and suspenseful. Stephen King's at his best when he pulls this off - there's Misery, and then he also has two novels that only have a single character.

The trouble with this austerity is that Dan and Jordan's ideas sound good.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I have no issues with eating lobsters but that pic does make it seem a little weird to have three animals of approximately the same size on your floor, only one of whom will soon be eaten

That's the brilliance of it.

So basically, Phonebooth.

I didn't see that. Premise was appealing, but Schumacher plus Farrell didn't sound promising -- was it good?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

it's an action flick. aren't you allergic to those or something?

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, kinda. Children of Men was the most technically impressive, but the least interesting, during its final half hour.

I'd like it if we didn't hear the other end and that it was still somehow suspenseful, like in Babel

What part of Babel are you thinking about here?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

How about a movie where the first half is a dude on the phone and you only hear his half of the conversation, and then the second half is the other person w/their half of the conversation?

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

john, what was that funny exchange . . . oh wait. i just remembered. you thought that hong kong phooey was a bazooka joe character.

i kinda like your idea for the movie, jordan.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

It's amazing how my tolerance for working goes right down the tubes after a vacation. I only have to work four hours today and 2.5 into it I'm totally climbing the walls. GET ME OUT OF HERE!!!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to admit, I'm a complete sucker for movies that show the same scene from different perspectives. Obv. Rashomon is the hip reference here, but Jackie Brown does it well, Lost does it all the time (e.g., the Others watching Flight 815 crash, the Tailies responding to Boone's radio transmission), and Babel, actually, has the phone call between Brad Pitt and the housekeeper at the beginning and end of the movie, from each side.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm thinking of the phone call in Babel.

Maybe 10 minutes of phone talk, 10 minutes of slapstick window-washers, 10 minutes of phone, etc.

Jenny, I will not be offended if you skip this movie. Though maybe the guy will get disembowled at the end or something, if that helps.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

XP: OMG that Hal Hartley movie is all about that! Is it Flirt?

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Last Days did that different-scene thing well (and was also a chamber movie - not two characters, but not many more).

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Kelsey, this thread made me realize that I'm pretty ignorant of Hanna-Barbera characters.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Vincent Gallo gives him a blowjob at the end.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

We do hear the other end in Babel, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

In the opening scene?

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, Flirt It plays the same story in 4 different locales with different people involved but same themes.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, you're right, J.

And there's another Hartley movie that uses the same script for three different scenes, right? Haven't seen any of his except the first one.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I have no issues with eating lobsters but that pic does make it seem a little weird to have three animals of approximately the same size on your floor, only one of whom will soon be eaten.

And only one of them would look the same on the plate as it did before. That's why seabugs are weird.

I like Jordan's idea of ignoring plane crashes, etc. You could do another take on 9/11, one showing America's complacency or somesuch.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Though maybe the guy will get disembowled at the end or something, if that helps.

Maybe you could send some zombies or evil robots rampaging through the office.

Chamber movies... that's a very descriptive term. I've never known what to call those types of movies so thanks.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

The only thing that made Phonebooth at all tolerable was seeing Colin Ferrel (sp?) standing around being hot.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to confess: I don't really understand Hal Hartley's popularity. He seems fairly obscure -- there's never any hype around his movies, except maybe Henry Fool (which came out during the Great Summer of Indie Films [1998] and is not coincidentally the only one I've seen, if you don't count The Book of Life) -- and yet I seem to know quite a few people who are big fans of his. I'm forever telling myself, "Oh, I need to see some Hartley films" and then forgetting all about it, because nothing reminds me except when people periodically bring him up in conversation. I don't think Flirt and Amateur and Trust are even on Netflix.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Conversations with Other Women comes out on dvd next week, I put it on the ol' queue.

xpost yeah I like "chamber movies" too

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

So do I. I should see more theatre, probably.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I am unsold on chamber movies (cf my inability to stay awake throughout Metropolitan) but I do love Trust so much. Not on Netflix, no. :((((

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

OK... my best/worst movie idea ever: World War 1 as a horror flick, with the machines of war introduced in that conflict as the "bad guys".

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I can handle a chamber movie if the acting is great and the conflict/topic of conversation is of interest to me. Otherwise I just end up feeling like I'm locked in a tiny room with people I absolutely hate.

Off topic: What is it called when in the middle of a novel, there's another smaller story that's related to the larger story but isn't the main focus of it? The only example I can think of is the one that prompted me to ask the question - in All the King's Men, Jack Burden tells the story of Cass Mastern, which is long and relevant but also a separate story as far as tone, time, place, etc. goes.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

A frame story, Jenny? Although in those the inner story is usually the point?

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

it is a tragedy that Trust isn't on DVD yet, Laurel. I wish you could come over and watch my VHS copy!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I can handle a chamber movie if the acting is great and the conflict/topic of conversation is of interest to me. Otherwise I just end up feeling like I'm locked in a tiny room with people I absolutely hate.

WHO'S AFRAID OF VA WOOLF?!!!!

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Framing usually refers to how the main story is treated, right?

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw a bunch of hartley movies that i got from netflix. i think it was amateur that i started with...loved that movie.

eric, would the guy sing? that could liven things up. maybe.

― JuliaA (JuliaA), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

No, I don't think frame story is right. That would be like The Princess Bride or Tales from the Crypt (to name two extremely literary examples). This is sort of like a long-ass diversion story in the middle of an independent story. I feel like the Bronte sisters pull this kind of stunt in some of their books, but I'm rusty on my Victorian lit and can't remember specifically.

xpost - In Who's Afraid of VA Woolf, I'm locked in a room with four horrible people who are drunk and hilarious and awesome, so it's okay.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm thinking of, like, Arabian Nights, Frankenstein, Canterbury Tales, even Usual Suspects, etc.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

VA Woolf was an example of a GOOD movie.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

That was an xpost, yeah I thought so. I don't know if there's a different term for those. It reminds me of The Thin Man where five pages in the middle are randomly devoted to the Alferd Packer (cannibal) story.

Those Hal Hartley movies sound interesting, but if they're not on netflix then I will never see them. I put Amateur on my queue though.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

It is called the interruptischmiddelstorien.

I wonder what it's called. Like the watch story in Pulp Fiction.

VA Woolf is the classic chamber drama.

Maybe he could sing, Julia. Maybe it'll be Nick Cave staring out an office window for 90 minutes.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Jackie Brown is Tarantino's best film. I will fight you so hard if you disagree.

Phonebooth had an interesting premise, poorly executed.

I have an interesting idea for a suspense film involving a portaledge and a multipitch aid climb on Baffin Island, called The Great and Secret Show.

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the singing idea, but I think it should be long spans of one-sided telephone conversation, interrupted by several short songs that he sings directly to the camera. Or perhaps that someone else sings, commenting on the action (or lack thereof), like a Greek chorus.

― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

That's beautiful, Nick. It'll be minutes and minutes of "Uh-huh. [Pause.] I know, I know [Pause.] Did you tell her that? [Pause.] Uh-huh. [Pause.] Uh-huh," and then he just turns to the camera and lets his heart out.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Story_within_a_story ?

It's like picture-within-a-picture.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

So, Buffy, the Musical, basically? I could do this all day. (XP)

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Laurel will be the seen-it-all executive producer who wants results and a big b.o. opening weekend.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

What I like about this movie is that we could realistically make it for free, if we borrowed a camera and snuck into an office building.

― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Do you like how I shifted this from the idea phase to the action phase?

― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

ooooh, project!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

i like projects


i am also a former filmmaker!

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

"Story within a story" seems to describe exactly what I'm talking about. I wish there was a snappier name for it, though.

xpost - I can get you into office buildings.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

What is a "mis en scene"?

― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Mise en abyme reminds me that I heard 2 guys talking at a coffee shop and one used the term "in medias res" in casual conversation to refer to a friend dropping in on him while he was in the middle of something.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha: Mise en scène (IPA: [miz?s?n]) has been called film criticism's "grand undefined term," but that is not because of a lack of definitions. Rather, it's because the term has so many different meanings that there is little consensus about its definition. (per Wikipedia)

― n/a (n/a), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

It'll be minutes and minutes of "Uh-huh. [Pause.] I know, I know [Pause.] Did you tell her that? [Pause.] Uh-huh. [Pause.] Uh-huh,"

I used to write playlets like this all the time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

somehow, that is hardly surprising

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

:D

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

He and Chris P. collaborated on them.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know what Chris has to do with it, but let's just say I'm a fan of banality and realism in art.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not even a fan of banality in LIFE, and I can experience that FOR FREE. ;)

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

2x

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

mise en place

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Chris gets off on all things others find bland. (He is hot for the guy who represents the PC in the Mac vs. PC commercials.)

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny, I think the chamber movie for you and Jeff (made by some of my poker buddies) is Bug.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah yeah, Laurel, I've heard it all before. Trying to recall how I addressed that in my senior project. Something about the thrill of seeing life's banality replicated artificially. The uncanniness of it. I love good, real dialogue.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

He prefers cuddling to an orgasm, a kind word to cuddling, and a pleasant Mona Lisa smile from across the room to all of them.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Chris gets off on all things others find bland.

bland != banal

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to Eric - While I don't think I'd want to be locked inside the room with those people, I would definitely want to look in the window and watch them.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I love good, real dialogue.

But why does dialogue have to be banal to be real?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

"so lacking in originality as to be obvious and boring" = no thx

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

It doesn't. But there's an element of banality in most conversations. Hardly anyone writes dialogue where people go "umm" or repeat themselves or step over each other's words, but this happens all the time, and I get a kick out of seeing it reproduced. Here I guess I'm talking about form rather than content, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I love this thread.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't find those 'yeah [pause] yeah' above banal, in part because of the recognizable rhythms (like John just said), and also because the effect, ideally, is like when you overhear something on the El and you have to make sense of it. It's writing that isn't for the benefit of the audience (as far as narrating the story) and ideally has the same what's-going-on-here? pleasure of eavesdropping.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

This kind of sounds like improv to me.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I dunno, are most people not as interested in the aggressively ho-hum as I am? Am I the only one who asks new romantic partners to "tell me a boring story"?

-- Chris Piuma (chri...), February 25th, 2003.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

so lacking in originality as to be obvious and boring

But when real-life banality is applied to art, it automatically becomes more interesting because a) we're not used to seeing banality in art: it becomes the exception rather than the rule, and b) art has the power to make the banal transcendent.

ideally has the same what's-going-on-here? pleasure of eavesdropping.

Bingo. There's an intimate, voyeuristic thrill to it. It feels visceral, somehow.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha.

This thread would be great to have read to you as a bedtime story
-- oops (buttch9...), February 26th, 2003.


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Oops is OTM.
-- Chris Piuma (chri...), February 27th, 2003.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I see you already unearthed the Chris P. contributions to that thread. Nice work.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

But when you know it's art and artifice and not someone you're eavesdropping on (which I also enjoy, but not for the banality, more because something interesting than whatever I've got going on might happen), doesn't that undermine that voyeuristic thrill?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Chris may be a deLillo character.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, take this dialogue from the thread above (which I hadn't seen 'til now - fantastic) and add some context and stakes to it (someone's job is on the line, or 'me' slept with boss's wife), and it's great dialogue:

My boss: Did you have a good weekend?

Me: Yes, thanks. You?

My boss: Not bad.

Me: Do anything exciting?

My boss: No.

Me: Oh.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

There's some term I learned in a poetry workshop about the mistake some writers make of writing something that is an example of what they meant to write ABOUT--like writing something boring when writing the dialogue of a boring person, or sounding stupid when writing about a stupid character.

Writing about something banal in a non-banal way would be interesting I guess. But I don't hold out much hope for the outcome.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Hardly unearthed. That was the third or fourth post!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Has anyone seen Dead & Breakfast? It's a zombie movie (w/Jeremy Sisto!) but it has the best modern use of the Greek chorus that I've seen (i.e. a dude singing funny country songs about the action who eventually gets turned into a zombie and continues singing between scenes until he gets killed by a chainsaw).

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

The way Mamet puts it is that people don't say what they want, they say what will get them what they want. As long as the actors know what is at stake for their character, and what they are trying to get from the other person, 'banal' dialogue can be suspenseful and compelling, beyond the ordinary rhythms of daily life.

Using that poetry analogy, I think what we're talking about is more of finding the profound in daily life than in being deliberately boring - it's more like Vermeer and Rembrandt painting daily life in Holland (ho hum) instead of the great moments in religious history.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

But when you know it's art and artifice and not someone you're eavesdropping on (which I also enjoy, but not for the banality, more because something interesting than whatever I've got going on might happen), doesn't that undermine that voyeuristic thrill?

This is a very good question, and the best answer that I can give is that I experience both at the same time, or go back and forth: the pleasure is both in the visceral voyeuristic thrill and the rational appreciation for the uncanniness of the vérité style. (I'm serious, I have like a whole chapter in my senior project about this where I talk about Raymond Carver and Mike Leigh.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

If dialog contains the "ums" and cadences of every day speech but is rendered suspenseful and compelling beyond the ordinary rhythms of daily life, it's no longer banal, is it?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, finding something profound (ie, non-banal) in something banal is interesting. But simply reproducing banality, not.

xpost--this is a corollary to what Jenny just said.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I grok the concept and I can think of examples of most of those variations, but I cannot abide movies that follow that model. Or books, for that matter. XXXXP

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Mamet is interesting. He writes "realistic" dialogue that nonetheless frequently sounds mannered. There's something incredibly compelling about it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, it sounds like what John is talking about is a movie of a guy talking on a cell phone about the same crap we all talk about on our cell phones, not a guy having a conversation that is banal on the surface but is designed to support and develop some great conflict.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Amen, sister act. Amen.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, it's only the gigantically obvious self-consciousness that makes HH movies attractive to me, probably...? Because, tho I haven't seen any lately, I recollect that he does extremely stylized banality quite a lot, too, but it's SO ENORMOUSLY DEADPAN that you're waiting for the ball to drop ALL THE TIME.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny and Jesse may be right about this. It's probably why I never wrote a successful play that put my predilections for banality into practice. When I took a playwriting course in college, I was miserable, because I felt like the professor (Von Washington, what up) cared WAY too much about plot and conflict, and I was like "b-b-b-but Robert Altman, Mike Leigh, etc." (Dan's comment about improv probably OTM here) -- and in the end, I wrote a perfectly well-made dramatic play that I have no affection for whatsoever.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

The tension itself just becomes hilarious after about 20 minutes. XP to me.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Mamet's incredibly mannered. He uses rhythms and grammar that come from the Chicago dialect, but he does it so specifically that it can be distracting (especially when he directs his own work).

I just saw this movie version of his play Edmond on New Years Eve, with WH Macy and Julia Stiles and others, and since someone else directed it the dialogue is less distracting than usually and it's easier to get caught up in the characters instead of thinking about the author. (It's really much better than I'd expected - and a few of the scenes are absolutely perfect as individual scenes.)

xpost- One dramamtic trick, though, Jenny, is to hide the drama in a banal situation. Like - the guy on the cell phone could be talking to the surgeon who is operating on his daughter in an hour - that's dramatic. Or he could be talking with the guy fixing the stucco on his house, and somehow from that "ordinary" conversation, something profound about the guy's life happens. If he doesn't change by the end, that's bad drama - but sometimes our lives change dramatically from a moment that seemed boring.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Said playwriting prof: http://www.wmich.edu/theater/faculty/images/faculty_14.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I hear you Eric. xp

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I wrote a short play a few years ago about a late-night college-radio DJ, and the whole point of it is that she's trying to cover up her emotions in order to do her job. And so she's trying to be banal (unemotional), and it doesn't work out. But by the end, when she reads the weather or says 'um', those should be the most compelling parts - not when she speaks all poetically, which is just her trying and failing to do her job.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I love that play.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Although, to John, I think that Altman (I don't know about the other person you mentioned) does more what Eric said - he allows for banal-seeming dialog that actually leads to profound things. It's not just purposeless banality.

Aren't there some web comics (or print, I dunno) that put principles more like what John is talking about into practice? I might be thinking of the Itchy and Scratchy lemonade cartoon that someone quoted on the banal conversation thread, but I can totally see a four panel comic in which two characters have a totally pointless and boring conversation.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Near-topic: The Brown Bunny (at least up till the end) was supposed to be an exploration of the tedium of driving cross-country--though cut with weird, silent making out--but it refused to do its part in the exploration. It was lazy "art" that is supposedly engaging the viewers by making them use their imaginations, but it's really just slack slapping together of bits of video. (I actually found some of the road shots really interesting on their own, but in context, really boring.)

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny: I don't think I actually want to have the completely pointless banal conversation. I think I just love the banal elements, the verite style, so much that I let that overwhelm my sense about what's actually great about what I'm seeing. I don't know how to properly integrate them (not that I've actually tried writing a play in YEARS -- which makes me sad). For instance, I love in EZ's play how she says "famous whatever" -- I love how she doesn't finish, how she can't be articulate, how she stumbles over the words, just like anyone would -- but at the same time, the real powerful dramatic moment of the play, if you've ever seen it performed or on film, is how the "I'm so fucking sad" comes out unannounced, and it pierces.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I actually found some of the road shots really interesting on their own, but in context, really boring.

I don't understand this. I found some of the road shots really interesting, too: the Gordon Lightfoot song soundtracking rain on a windshield is particularly beautiful -- but I don't see how the "context" takes away from the beauty. What is the context, anyway?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

The David Lynch cartoon about the meanest dog in the world definitely does that. He just sits in the yard on his chain and growls, and then the sun goes down and that's it.

The Brown Bunny is an interesting example of seeing a guy do very little for a long, long time, but then at the end you understand the circumstances. If it didn't have the payoff, it would be more like a travelogue than anything else. Which, if the scenery was pretty...

x-post - Jesse beat me to it!

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I like Eric's premise for a movie, the guy standing in the high rise talking on the phone for 90 minutes. It would be a like a modern day more solitary version of rear window. There would be no interacting with any one in person. I wouldn't want to hear the other side of the conversation. I would make a majority of the film POV, peering into other people's office windows, looking at the activity on the street. It would all work with his conversation on the phone, sometimes relevant, sometimes not. The film would be stylized to an extent, by having the camera have better vision than the man actually has. The detail that he sees out the window would be important.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I really like the POV idea. Maybe we wouldn't even see the man, just hear his voice -- which might make it seem more intimate.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Hence my earlier question about whether we would see what was going on outside the window, sort of.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

You're right - you don't even need to see the guy's face, really. Just an establishing shot in the office, something against the glass, and then whatever he sees out the window during the conversation. And with all the HD stuff now (used in the night shots in Collateral), the details could be really beautiful.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Then you could overdub all the audio without even having to worry about matching dialogue to mouth movements.

― JordanC (JordanC), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

The context of... endless road shots followed by a so-so payoff with the gratuitous BJ and twist ending. The road shots were not intersting enough to take up as much time as they did and it did not need to be a feature-length movie. I can't imagine how tedious it would have been in the uncut Cannes version that Roger Ebert talked shit about.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Elephant, Last Days, and United 93 were all interestingly antidramatic movies - those three all have really compellingly banal situations and dialogue. Seeing someone eat a meal or talk about 'whatever' underscores the lack of fate or destiny in any of those situations.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, The Brown Bunny didn't really add up for me, but I can't deny that I enjoyed watching it -- much more so than Gerry, at least.

And yes, good call on all of those, Eric. I'd also add Bully, which demonstrated the banality of evil more provocatively than anything else I can think of.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, those three films have really artful banality - the scenes have no great subtext or tension to them, and the effect is stronger (to me, anyway) than if there were dramatic storylines (star-crossed lovers and all) that reached a confluence when the big dramatic event happens. Instead, the stakes are low, which is more believable and powerful.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Not to continue this conversation forever, but it'd be interested to get Amanda's fella's take on this -- because, in making a documentary, you really can just capture ordinary moments, if you want, without creating a dramatic arc or storyline. Frederick Weisman's movies are incredibly banal but also edited in a way that they really give you a sense of their subject matter. Sh3rrif is kind of halfway between Weisman and Cops as far as banality-vs.-action.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I think United 93 is also powerful in part because of the dramatic disconnect between the viewer's knowledge of "OMG 9/11 WTF" and the film's subjects working like it was any other day, cracking jokes, making coffee, etc.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Not to continue this conversation forever

I want to continue this over drinks. Because I want to make this movie.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

dudes, do it!

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm heading out in a few mins too, but let's.

You're right, J. - all three of those are OMG 9/11, OMG COLUMBUINE, OMG ROCK-STAR SUICIDE, ho-de-hum, breakfast, etc. With no other competing dramatic storylines (kid dying of cancer, couple fighting, whatever), which I love.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:30 (seventeen years ago) link

OTM. If Brown Bunny's outcome had been clear at the beginning then the rest of the movie would actually have been really great. It might have had to have been a little more dramatic than a overdose (right?) but still, it would have helped. But the banality continued right through to the end, even to the point that Sevigny is smoking pot (as opposed to harder drugs or doing something more interesting) and Gallo is whining, "Why do you drink and do drugs?"

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Never a sense of something looming.

So little depends
upon the Brown Bunny
driving across the country.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

john & jon, sorry, didn't see your txt until about 2:30 on friday night. i was with some people who were thinking about going up there but we couldn't come up with a compelling enough reason.

my loss i'm sure.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 00:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Although it strikes me that the something-looming contexts in the three movies EZ names are somewhat dependent on a knowledge going in: I mean, I think it's hard to avoid with United 93 -- there's probably even a "September 11, 2001" title at the beginning -- but with the Van Sant films, isn't the something-looming precisely because we already know (from reading reviews or whatever) that we're watching his Columbine movie or his Kurt Cobain movie? Is any of that spelled out within the film itself?

xpost: Otto, it's cool -- I only ended up staying there for about 15 minutes, just long enough to meet Jon. I did run into an ex-co-worker of mine, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 00:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I finally put a note on my water bottle that says POR FAVOR, ¡NO LO BOTES!

If they throw this one out, I'm going on a rampage. I don't have $1.69 to spend on Nantucket Nectars every other day.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 00:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Get one:

http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/store/images/2078-2015-12L.jpg

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 00:47 (seventeen years ago) link

No.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 02:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Or you could write "No es basura", John. That's what my Chicano colleague said to put on my cup when it was getting thrown out.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 02:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Get one:

2x, just don't get the narrow mouth kind like the one in the picture because you can't fit 1. ice cubes through it and 2. a water purifier on it.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 02:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Favor de no tirar. Botar means something more like to throw or toss whiletirar means to throw away.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 03:15 (seventeen years ago) link

"Please do not throw this bottle."

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 03:15 (seventeen years ago) link

"Fragile: glass may break if thrown."

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 03:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, botar is OK too, according to the most useful website ever, wordreference.com. The best might be Favor de no echar en la basura or Esta botella no es basura, y si no quiere que el ICE le deporte, no lo tires en la basura, pinche mojado flojo.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 03:21 (seventeen years ago) link

And the cleaners should leave a note saying, "Comprete un Nalgene, puto Americano."

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 03:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Kr told me to use "botar." I think she consulted with her Ecuadoran co-workers.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 03:37 (seventeen years ago) link


Don't tell her to ask them what I said means.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 06:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the small mouth bottles better because I am less likely to pour water down my chin when drinking. I don't use much ice and never leave Chicago so filtered water isn't an issue, either.

I am now down to one bottle and no caps, though, so I need to pick up a couple more to get my three bottle rotation in place for next semester.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Sunovabitch I have to work a full day today because my coworker is sick. BOOOOOOOO. Who wants to meet me for lunch?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i would but i'm at least 5 miles from chicago city limits and about 15 from the loop so i doubt i could make it.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I finally put my Ikea bookshelf together last night.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, 3van put it together and I helped.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Also a problem w/ the small-mouthed bottles: can't get a spoon in them when you make chocolate pudding by wedging the bottle between rocks in cold running water. : D

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

wow, that's like the pudding equivelant of free basing cocaine laurel.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

you may have a pudding abuse problem.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

You try eating freeze-dried, boiled things for three days and see what you'll do for pudding.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't understand the MacGyver pudding.

I want to see Children of Men but apparently it's not playing here. :(

xpost

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

You try eating freeze-dried, boiled things for three days and see what you'll do for pudding.


i'm not talking about what i've done for pudding on the internet.

― otto midnight, that 'tofu makes you gay' ding dong (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, what's not to understand, Jordan?? You're in the great out-of-doors, in need of nourishment, you have previously added powdered milk to some pudding mix and dumped it into a Ziploc. Now's the time to add water, shake, and CHILL. And then eat.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

xp:

john, get a metal bottle. it's not plastic.
ihttp://www.justsportandleisure.com/images/Product2/800880.jpg


also: hubcap is fine! he was very tired when he got home but I think that's totally normal.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, yay, Kelsey! that's such good news.

I think I might go to Skokie to get a good bagel at this Kaufman's place today.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

hubcap does have a new "haircut" however. it makes him look so bad ass. the long scar doesn't hurt, either (in the bad ass department. it might actually be causing li' hubcap some pain b/c the vet gave me pain meds to give him).

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

you have previously added powdered milk to some pudding mix and dumped it into a Ziploc.

Ha I guess I've never bothered to make pudding before.

xpost, I am glad your cat is okay, Kelsey

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

jordan, it's a rat.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

which is kind of silly in a way & i felt slightly embarassed at work yesterday when i said i was leaving to pick up my rat from the vet. but hubcap is great. even the vet assistant said that after meeting hubcap he kinda wants a rat. hubcap is very very sweet. he'll cuddle anyone.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm glad your rat is ok kelsey.

i have to go to a wake for a cat tonight. i just saw him friday night! he'd lost a lot of weight but he still looked ok. anyway, his former owner is having people over for cocktails and chex mix.

― otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

not silly at all! one of my college roommates had a pet rat that was a total sweetheart.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, that's just instant pudding, which is pretty crappy compared to the home-made stuff. But you take what you can get.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

for those who love pudding and aren't out camping: it's really easy to make from scratch, and so much better than pudding mix chemically stuff. the betty crocker version of vanilla pudding, straight from the microwave, was my comfort food for a long time. xp--yes!

yay for badass healthy kitty cat.

― mmm pudding (JuliaA), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

jordan, it's a rat.

Oh. I take it back then.

(j/k!)

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm actually in the process of contacting a rescue to get a new cage friend for hubcap. i feel like as a human i'm just not enough for a rat.

― sweet tater (sweet tater), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/59/Willard-photo_09_hires.jpg/300px-Willard-photo_09_hires.jpg

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

is it, could it be, cage friend tiem pls?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay Hubcap! I'm so glad, Kelsey!

Julia, how do I shot pudding from scratch?

Okay, John, get one:

http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/store/images/2079-0016L.jpg

They supposedly don't have the toxic chemicals supposedly in clear plastic Nalgene bottles. Laurel, surprisingly, I'm sure, I don't make a lot of pudding in streams so... yeah.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I still gotta vote against the narrow mouth, srsly.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Although when it rains a lot, there's a pretty fast-moving river of water that runs down Addison, so I could probably make pudding there if the mood struck me.

I probably have a defective lip or something but about the third time I poured water down my chin during class I realized I had to do something different. Although there is always this:

http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/store/images/2575-3063L.jpg

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

You know, perusing the Nalgene website, if their #7 plastic bottles really do leach carcinogenic chemicals into the water and should be avoided by babies and pregnant women, the fact that they make a bottle especially for toddlers is more than a little evil:

http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/store/images/2182-1012L.jpg

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Also: the link between hard plastic Nalgene bottles and cancer is pretty tenuous and much debated. It's one of those "you're getting more cancer from breathing in the city" type situations: "There is no doubt that polycarbonate bottles contain BPA, but there's little evidence that it leaches out into liquids under normal conditions. Even if small doses do seep, the chemical's effect on humans may prove harmless."

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

chicago, why is damn near every site i want to go to today blocked? i have some record shopping i want to do dammit.

― otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

the government site police are on to you, dude

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, well then in that case... hi fellas!

― otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

BACK TO WORK, COG!

― VA INTERNET WATCHER #163609A (danno martinez), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Our stupid internet keeps going down.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

pudding: big pyrex bowl, whisk, microwave, milk (skim is fine), corn starch, vanilla extract (always more than the recipe calls for), eggs, sugar. i think that's it...i'll look up a recipe for you.

awesome awesome comfort food and oh look you're getting so much calcium!

and yay for healthy rat, i was too distracted by pudding thoughts to understand.

― mmm pudding (JuliaA), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

This is probably a stupid question, but I need to send someone an email and I don't want to start it off with "I hope you had a lovely New Year" if it would be inappropriate, and so: Do non-Orthodox Jews celebrate Jan. 1 New Year's or do they stick to Rosh Hashanah? Is it okay to start an email to someone whom I assume, but do not know for sure, is Jewish with the aforementioned New Year's greeting?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Healthy pets are far preferable.

I watched the premier of "Dirt" last night on F/X, and while the show didn't blow me away despite a hefty helping of sex, violence, and mental illness, the subplot involving a sick (and finally dead) cat proved almost too much to take. I had to give the kitties treats after that and make them promise never to die.

― look at them eating. i bet it tastes real good. (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

huh, i just realized i haven't had a cigarette today. and probably haven't had one in 13 hours. i wonder why i'm not nic-fitting?

― otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes Jenny, NY greeting is perfectly fine.

I was just making fun of a Jew on NYE for already having had their shot, but I don't seriously know any Jews who ignore western-calendar New Year's.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks, Jordan. I will send the email. My Jewdar tells me that this particular fellow is Reform to nonpracticing so I figured it would be okay but one can never be too careful.

Everybody come back and entertain me. Work blows and I'm all alone in my little law hole. Also I worked out my schedule over the next two weeks to conform with my coworkers and she keeps freaking changing things and messing me the hell up. Grrr.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't have much to say. I wish I did.

― look at them eating. i bet it tastes real good. (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess I could share with you that I'm excited about an all-new NBC Thursday lineup tomorrow.

― look at them eating. i bet it tastes real good. (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

lol lawhole

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

"Fuck you, lawhole!"

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it sad to get excited about TV? It's been so long since I've done it. But with Earl and The Office and 30 Rock on the same night... come on. This is good shit.

― look at them eating. i bet it tastes real good. (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I just wish they would move Scrubs t0 7 and mash the rest of the shows together, thus giving me a clearer option if I'm in a non-Braffy mood.

― look at them eating. i bet it tastes real good. (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, they call it "the library" but that makes it sound warm and inviting instead of windowless and harshly lit by fluorescents and furnished with cast off office furniture remnants. There are a lot books in here, however.

I like The Office. Sometimes I get excited about TV. I'll be glad when BSG and Lost come back.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Sometimes I call it the "clerk hole."

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a weird relationship with Scrubs. I kind of hate it and yet I watch it at the gym a lot, because it is on Comedy Central ALWAYS and it's better than a lot of other tv.

I should have Harvey Birdman dvds in my mailbox tonight.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I went out to a kosher steakhouse for lunch and I am FULL of "fillet". Because the fillet mignon is a NON-KOSHER CUT, so they serve something else and the menu reads "fillet". It was all right, not terribly special. Also, the non-dairy garlic mashed pot. were almost tasteless, I'm taking them home and slathering 'em in butter, thank you very much. I've had non-dairy ice cream at another steak place around here that's indistinguishable from the real thing, but today's dessert was a little...thin. Icy. No depth of flavor.

Overall, adequate but nothing I'd tell my friends about. Of course my friends aren't obsessed with THREE THOUSAND YEAR-OLD DIETARY LAWS INTENDED TO MAKE LIFE DIFFICULT.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually I never get annoyed by kashrut until someone starts putting soymilk in my coffee. Then I go from zero to cranky.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Why did you go to a kosher steakhouse? I asked the OJ about kosher restaurants this summer and he said there were a lot of him in his 'hood but that he didn't like to eat out because he didn't like eating in public. That led to a rousing mental game of "Jewish law or OJ neurosis?" which was always fun to play.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

lol jews

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

For example: the OJ brushed his teeth after he arrived at work and again in the afternoon. Jewish law or OJ neurosis?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

lol @ lol jews

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Because it was a business lunch and my boss is Ortho.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

orthopedic jews

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't like earl or that scrubs show but will gladly sit through both to get to the office and/or 30 rock. i know it is exceptionally warm out for january in chicago but i still wish it were summer. i want to walk to thirsty thursday in my shirtsleeves and think how nice the breeze feels coming off the lake.

then go into that dank little bar and get liquored up.

― otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah! Speaking of, the OJ came to the office yesterday for a printout of his time sheets so he could talk about everything he'd done over the summer during an upcoming interview (which is kind of INSANE given that once people figured out he was impossible to work with, they stopped giving him assignments, and most of his work consisted of pulling cases off Westlaw BUT ANYWAY) and I stopped in the lobby to chat because I'm fucking nice and three males came by and they all shook his hand and I wanted to be like "Are you doing that just to fuck with me???" because the whole not shaking hands with women thing was a well known affront to the females in the office.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, so they were three non-OJs who happened to shake his hand and not yours?

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, yes, but it would have been bizarre for them to shake my hand under those circumstances since I had seen them all five minutes before. Just the fact that they shook his hand at all instead of saying, "Oh, hello former clerk whom we asked not to come back because really you were a terrible employee" seemed weird. I mean, it's not like they are peers or anything.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I've always wondered if the handshaking thing causes a problem for OJ men & women in secular, professional jobs.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

If by problem you mean fostering resentment among the women in the office then yes, absolutely.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Yup. Does he not make direct eye contact as well?

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, my boss shakes hands with men. She also buys her own clothes from ladies' department stores according to what SHE finds modest, and she doesn't wear a wig or cover her head i her professional life. Of course, she also didn't marry until late in life so I think she was more independent by necessity but I can't imagine her having knuckled under regardless.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

He will make direct eye contact and hand things directly to women. I'm guessing those are his concessions to operating in non-Orthodox society.

There are different levels of Orthodoxy, obv. The OJ talked about the teachings of a particular rabbi once that slotted him into a particular sect but I can't remember which one it was.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i think his rabbi was e. bloom and he was slotted in the blue oyster cult.

whoo ooo ooo oooo..... GOD ZILLA!

― otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

STUCK IN MY HEAD!!!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't fear the rabbi.

― look at them eating. i bet it tastes real good. (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

STICK IT IN THA FRIDGE JENNY!!!!-

― otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

My housemates watched about three seasons worth of Scrubs in November and December. I hadn't seen it before. Not bad. Interesting that it looks more like a commercial than a TV show, with all the camerawork and the fantasy sequences.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.eldoblaje.com/datos/FotosCaratulas/5887.jpg

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Good God I hate Scrubs, mostly because of Barf.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Someone send me a link to the Braff-hating Salon article.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I used to think Scrubs was really funny until I saw 900,000 episodes of it, each with a life-changing lesson.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Now I watch it with a bored expression on my face. I don't HATE hate it, though. Not like I HATE Garden State.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeh, I don't really hate the show, but I do hate that guy. The show is just kind of boring.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I kind of loathe "Scrubs", plus there is always "Grey's Anatomy"! Which is awes except for the moralizing voice-overs at ends of eps but one can foward past/mute those.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

It took me an embarrassingly long time to figure out who "OJ" was.

Everyone I've met who likes Scrubs is weirdly proud that they like it. They're always saying, "You know what's a good show? Scrubs. I know, you might not realize it, but that shit's funny." Of course, I haven't heard anyone say this since 2003, so I don't know if there'd be any post-Garden State backpedaling these days.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Funny parts of Scrubs = pretty good.
Mawkish parts of Scrubs = unbearable.

― n/a (n/a), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i refuse to watch grey's anatomy. i tried but i just can't do it. before nbc juggled their line up i'd read or go to the bar early.

is there a tt going on this week?

― otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

O.J., original jewster.

Scurbs reminds me of Office Space. I saw both of them for the first time in the company of a superfan. They both have the nice guy in the lead who's having little crises of masculinity and conformity.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I kind of think Grey's Anatomy is a bad show. But there's a whole genre of prime-time soap opera that I totally avoid, so maybe it's not meant for me, anyway.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm trying to think if there are any other "critically acclaimed" TV shows that I want to start watching on DVD after Arrested Development and Undeclared. I hope not, because I kind of want to get back to movies, but on the other hand, it's pretty awesome to watch an episode or two of something before bed, without the commitment of a two-hour movie.

xpost Yeah, I don't have any interest in Grey's Anatomy or House or anything like that.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Do I really have to say that I love House? The show, the character, take your pick.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that the one Sandra Oh is on? I've never seen GA but she is great. I mostly think so because of Last Night.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

"Why would I want to watch 'The Sopranos'? It's all 'I'm gonna kill that guy.' 'No, f-k you, I'm gonna kill that guy'."
-Jaymc, November 2006.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I like House a lot, too. But I get the feeling from Grey's Anatomy that it's kind of all about "oh look hott boyz/oh no boy problems". House has a drug addiction. That's the kind of problem I can get behind.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't actually know anything about House except that it stars an asshole doctor named House. But I don't have any interest in it. Also not interested in The Sopranos, The Wire, The Shield, Entourage (first ep was really bad, like Swingers the TV show), Weeds, Big Love, Nip/Tuck. Maybe interested in The OC and Six Feet Under.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Grey's Anatomy was good for the first season, but after that I got tired of those people. I've seen House twice and it was nearly unbearable, the show, the guy, take your pick. No, actually, don't take your pick, I will: the guy.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I've got the first discs of Freaks & Geeks and the Wire on my queue, but I'm almost loathe to get sucked in because I also have been enjoying movies, and the Wire especially seems like a big committment.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

The Wire is pretty damn great. No, really.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Also interested in 30 Rock. Not interested in Desperate Housewives.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I also have been enjoying movies, and the Wire especially seems like a big committment.

Laurel said the exact same thing the other day.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

: D The Sopranos, on the other hand, I have no interest in.

I dunno, I don't find anyone on GA hott except Katherine Heigl, and I'm happy to admit that probably 2/3 of the characters are "types" (cf "the Nazi", the beautiful smart girl, etc), but they're well played and I like their interactions with each other.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I found the second season of Entourage used at Reckless and watched in all in two or three days. I had that same Swingers impression of the one season-one episode I'd seen, but I think it's improving.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

John, the OC? Really?

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

30 Rock is a treat. it is difficult to say whether I love Fey, Baldwin, or Morgan most.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

x2

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Not interested in Carnivale, Rome, Ugly Betty, Deadwood, or anything Law and Order- or CSI-related. Interested in The Office.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I should own some Curb on DVD. That might be my all-time favorite show. (Bold words.)

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

The OC is intolerable for me, although I have much-admired friends who rave about it. I don't think I give a shit about beautiful teenagers. Ugly Betty, though, hmm. I'd at least try one or two eps if someone said I should bother.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

John, the OC? Really?

Yeah, why not? I guess I'm hoping it's like Dawson's Creek.

xpost: beautiful teenagers: I could've just said this.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

what the fuck is in maggie valley, north carolina and why does my phone have two missed phone calls from there?

crunkle? jenny? jeff? what's out there?

― otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Interested in Mr. Show. Not interested in Oz or Queer as Folk.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

seriously, I can't imagine anyone disliking The Office. it's brilliant.

I love Ugly Betty, but watch it only semi-frequently. it's on at the same time as The Office, which is kind of a bummer.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Interesting in Talking; Not interested in Action.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I have only seen the OC once, at a friend's house. His younger sister was having a marathon. I've also never seen Dawson's Creek, but it was a lot like what I always imagined DC to be like.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Maggie Valley is a place in the Blue Ridge mountains that is a big tourist draw. I've never been, but I think it's just a really quaint, quiet, cute town with lots of jam and apple butter.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I've seen House twice and it was nearly unbearable, the show, the guy, take your pick. No, actually, don't take your pick, I will: the guy.

Jeez. What is it you have against arrogant assholes? :)

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Speaking of Dawson's Creek and Undeclared: man, Monica Keena is so hot.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

It's an apple butter marketer calling you.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

My grandparents used to take trips to Maggie Valley. They would go to the Stomping Ground, a dance place, predominately clogging/bluegrass related.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i checked a map and it's close enough where it could conceivably be some people i know in asheville but if it was them they would've left me a message.

― otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

My relatively good day was just totally ruined. The news a couple of months ago was that the CIO was leaving, and his stranglehold on the IT department and all things web would finally end and I'd have more responsibility. He hired a replacement for himself, and I had meetings with the replacement, and really liked the guy. It looked like something would actually happen that would be really good for me.

Well, I just got an email from the President saying that he's "happy to announce" that the new head of IT would be his sister (!) and that the CIO isn't leaving after all. I'm crushed. Things won't just be the same, they'll be more the same than ever before. I'm seriously depressed about this. I don't want to have to look for another job. But this little development means no new position, no raises, nothing but more and more being squeezed out. This fucking sucks.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

WHO TH' FUCK DECIDES TO RETIRE, HIRES A REPLACEMENT, AND THEN CHANGES HIS MIND JUST BECAUSE HE'S A CONTROL FREAK?

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

CRAZY ASSHOLES,THAT'S WHO.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I'M SO DEPRESSED I'M LISTENING TO PET SOUNDS. THIS IS NOT GOOD.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I WANT TO GO HOME.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

YOU CAN NEVER GO BACK. Oh, you didn't mean that home.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

That sucks, dude.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I really like Six Feet Under.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I have some interest in TT. I would like to take a yoga class at 4 pm but could probably be convinced to rearrange that.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

If the CIO should ever leave you,
Your life would still go on, believe you.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I am not drinking for a while. I could still go out I guess, but I shouldn't be out in public lest I spend money.

― crunkleJ (crunkleJ), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Dammit, I want to go to yoga at 4 AND go to TT but that's just not practical.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

how long does yoga take and where is it?

― otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

hey, could someone go to theponys.com and snag the tour dates? it's blocked here today. i blame dan martin.

― otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

FRIDAY 1/12/2007 SCHUBAS CHICAGO 9PM 18+

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Yoga takes an hour and a half and is four blocks from my abode.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, the four blocks thing is deadly.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

What about TT at Friar Tucks or Monsignor Murphy's or one of those near your abode?

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Yoga takes an hour and a half and is four blocks from my abode.

Maybe you could just meditate/relax/center/whatever really quickly?

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Or Brother Booze or Monks and Drunks?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

If those bars existed I would totally go.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

four blocks from jenny's abode = another timezone from tt's. :(


that was the only date listed? i can't remember when jered said they were playing boston, it's either the 27th or 29th.

― otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Bars in the Jesuit District.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

That was the only date listed.

The Jesuits can drink, no doubt.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

goddamn it, i will say the new web filters are VERY good at what they do, i can't get to anything good. can't find shit about dick in this motherfuck.

xpost- i was raised by jesuits! it's true!

― otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesuits raise wild men.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been curious about this Irish pub that I've seen a bunch of times right at Belmont and Sheridan, on the ground floor of some high-rise. It seems so other-worldly over there, and, even though I'm sure it's generic inside, I'd like to check it out sometime.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

So can the Christian Brothers:

http://www.barmedia.com/BC5Reviews/images/ChristianBrothers1.jpg

(Fun fact: my dad was in the Christian Bros. seminary for a year in the mid-1960s.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Monks and Drunks

This is a great name for a bar. Really.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Eric, are you talking about Bridget McNeill's? I went there with Renee once.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

(I just noticed that the first comment on that Chicagoist article is from M. C@lv3rt.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

is monks on lake street still open? i used to see it from the green line, i think it's west of clark & lake and either just before or just after the rive?

― otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, yes, Bridget McNeill's is it.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Monk's is still around. That would be a good TTs as well. It seems like the Loop version of Moody's to me.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to go to Bridget McNeill's. And Monk's. And Old Timer's. I like bars.

If my dumb yoga studio had some early morning classes, this wouldn't be a problem.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

i want to go to a different neighborhood for the next tt's so if we have it up by jenny & jeff's that's cool. i just need to allot some extra travel time.

― otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I read that big Reader article on the Bell's dingus today, it was interesting.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Monk's. Yeah, it's still open. Last time I was there, one of the people I was with knew the owner, and we got freebies all night. Sweet.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

kenan, what happened at tuman's?

― otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

shit, hold that story, i gotta go.

share yr love, chicago.

― otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I have been really bemoaning the lack of good beer selection in this shit hole town lately.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Nothing happened at Tuman's, far as I know. I found a scarf.

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

OH MY GOD REALLY???

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Is the beer selection in liquor stores limited too?

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I have been really bemoaning the lack of good beer selection in this shit hole town lately.

Whaddar you talking about, can't you get Bud bottles everywhere?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Depends on the store, but I haven't found anything like State Line Liquors in MD or Liquormart in Boulder, CO around here. Then again, I have not been looking that hard. I just prefer to bitch.

xpost - no, can't get OLD STYLE everywhere!

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

State Line Liquors

*genuflects*

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh my.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

A store with ~ 700 North American craft brewed beers. In Elkton fucking Maryland. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK FROM A MAJOR CITY?

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

The guy in the cube next to me always says "g/f" on the phone instead of "girlfriend". As in "gee slash eff". IT HAS MORE SYLLABLES AND SOUNDS DUMB. JUST SAY GIRLFRIEND, FLAPJAWS.

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

don't you mean JACKBALLS?

― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha. I was walking around downtown Chi with some dudes and saw a place called the Flapjaws Cafe or something, and it stuck (as in "what's up, flapjaws" or "listen to ol flapjaws here").

― JordanC (JordanC), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Holy cow, State Line Liquors, wtf. And here I was happy with the place at Clark and Foster. (Except dude gave me a shitty wine recommendation last time I was in there.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny, we should go here:

http://www.samswine.com/Products/beer.aspx

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Hiya, I took most of the afternoon off to tend to some bidness.

For big beer (and of course, wine) selection I like http://www.samswine.com/Main.aspx -- closer to my house, VAS Foremost liquor actually has a lot of good Belgians and craft brews.

I will go anywhere for TT, just don't make me decide. Extra travel time may be needed, and I may bring a friend.

Otto, you ought to know better than to trifle with the VA Office of Internet Time-Wasting Prevention Department, Northern Illinois Division. We see all, we know all.

The dude from Scrubs ruins that show, I don't care how funny it supposedly is. He sucks so hard. The Office, OZ, C.Y.E., and Mr. Show are all grebtx1000. Well, only the first 4.5 seasons of OZ, really.

xpost: GREAT MINDS, JEFF

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 4 January 2007 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link

FIELD TRIP TO SAM'S WINE.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 4 January 2007 00:32 (seventeen years ago) link

OLD ILX IS BACK UP.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 January 2007 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I've heard good things about foremost as well. Haven't been in the Binny's downtown, but I should check it out.

― Jeff... (Jeff...), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I started a new thread on the nu-old ilx: http://ilx.wh3rd.net/thread.php?msgid=7486949

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 4 January 2007 01:31 (seventeen years ago) link


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