Blah blah blah SB is an infringement of my human rights blah blah

keep it in here, guys

I did say "parc the sarc", I'm out.

list yr favourite posters who shd be allowed to express themselves without intimidation in this thread

Mark this isn't solely addressed to you by any means but hey feel free to SB yourself from the thread

funny how u adopt conservative rhetoric to defend such a brutal & injust institution just saying

i'm gonna keep posting on the other thread tho in case my comrades fail to open a started by a user w/ such a silly name

np.

i'm glad that you're not falling to my level of cheap, provocative clusterfuckery kevin. good work.

I don't really care whether SB is an infringement of my human rights or not tbh, I just find it kinda snide and sneaky. But then I suppose if I see a thread with some nutjob offensive stuff on it I just go to another thread.

tbf a lot of posters are open and honest about when they've SB'd u for that

If it's all out in the open, then fair enough, it's a bit telling tales to teacher otherwise

u're thinking of it wrong, essentially it's a venting steam button coupled with a mild but sadly ineffective quality control element

anyway, when we are allowed to vent it out in the open a slew of much-loved posters were life-banned

unless u think it's healthier for us all to be calling each other wankers to our faces instead of cooling down by quietly and repeatedly clicking the SB button

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCUAbexzLlQ

quietly and repeatedly clicking the SB button

You couldn't make that any more sinister sounding if you tried

i love a challenge!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EAXOVK8YVLk/TF-lJaQ-Y_I/AAAAAAAABlo/KR3F3Vn-YI8/s1600/Bond_Villain.jpg

I warned you Mr. Bond, now you have forced me to quietly and repeatedly clicking the SB button

NV has surely got the best attitude out of all of us w/r/t SB, apply liberally and apply often

I don't like the SB system because I can never seem to get any SB's.

and always choose factor 51 xp

lol how did this kick off again?

Nobody gets sb'd without both reason and fair notice, and the consequences are pretty light

What's the problem

Mark Grout started it, then ran away, sir

it was them that ran away!

(oops)

lol

I created a sandbox acct to sb people

I'm not a playa I just sb a lot

Me an yr girl mad tight coz we sb a lot

unless u think it's healthier for us all to be calling each other wankers to our faces instead of cooling down by quietly and repeatedly clicking the SB button

if ilx riles you up so much that you try to get posters banned b/c you don't agree with them then you should probably quit ilx

Do people try to get posters banned b/c they don't agree with them? Seems unlikely to me.

i'm not sure what else people sb for these days...?

i agree with you, i don't think it's an "injustice" or anything dumb like that, just that it is underhanded and kinda middle school

I assume people get sb'ed for being overtly offensive or aggressive, not just for having different opinions

wonder which sb'd posters rolo would like to offer us as examples of the 'disagreement theory'

Didn't Geir get sbed once?

Geir has said offensive stuff on numerous occasions

Doubt he's ever been SBed for defending melody and harmony against all-comers

burt_stanton and capn lorax have also been banned, not sure what kind of threat they posed

wonder which sb'd posters rolo would like to offer us as examples of the 'disagreement theory'

i dont know who actually gets banned but most of the sb's on lorax were a good example

would you classify what geir does as mere disagreement, tho?

P sure you could argue for it as trolling, tho obv whether it's intentional or not is v debatable

lorax about to blow the roof off the biggest conspiracy of our time iirc

he had to be stopped

51 was an inside job

Somebody was sb'ing him from that grassy knoll, I'm sure of it

tbh i'm not really convinced any ILX posters are dedicated trolls, I just wonder whether or not anyone's actually thought to themselves "i'm glad we sb'd that guy"

oh ok we're only talking about posters that are a 'threat' now, like if lj were in the bushes with a camera or s/t

Geir's pretty dedicated, apparently he was doing it before ILX even existed

I believe Geir is saying what he believes to be true.

And he's been saying it for 20 years.

... yes, he's never needlessly provocative, is he? (xp)

Is 'provocative' a bad thing?

I mean, do you really care if I think Radiohead are overrated, let's say?

It's sb, not challopbutton!

provocative is not a bad thing

annoying is

I said 'needlessly' provocative anyway

True.

Actually, he's not been around as much recently.

I like sb because it seems to pretty neatly defuse nasty tone policing arguments, because instead of nasty tone policing arguments people click sb and feel like they've done their duty because sb has a quantifiable/algorithmic effect on dealing with things they find problematic

how many posters actually get 51'd?

i dunno i disagree with that because as soon as people start to pile on a poster there's a bunch of "oh ya I sb'ed that guy and everyone else should too" which IMO is worse than tone policing (which I doubt would be a problem anyway)

instance?

wait are we actually having an sb discussion on a board where there is no such thing as sb? fuckin awesome, well done everybody

SB FREE ZONE

wait are we actually having an sb discussion on a board where there is no such thing as sb? fuckin awesome, well done everybody

It was not too healthy at birth and died in six hours, but if you want to do CPR, ok

wait are we actually having an sb discussion on a board where there is no such thing as sb? fuckin awesome, well done everybody

― undervalued aerosmith tchotchkes sold in bulk, Friday, December 9, 2011 11:52 AM (50 minutes ago)

some ppl may withhold donations unless assured that SB will not exist in the future, who knows!

some people get off on withholding

i am "holding" ur mom "with" my hands rt now

and some people get off on my mom

but yeah let's bitch it up about something that doesn't exist

from what does this thread originate?

the sandbox

an electronic database of posts

or something like that, i would ask stet if you need technical details

i've been essentially pro-sb since the frogbs era, like youve gotta admit it whole process is pretty hilarious. i'm firmly anti-permaban, though

oh yeah sb is v funny but i don't think it should result in a ban, should be like a poke or something

you're the fucking worst

seriously clicking at the empty space next to permalink by your name 50 times in a row

u seem v angry!

some ppl may withhold donations unless assured that SB will not exist in the future, who knows!

― k3vin k., Friday, December 9, 2011 12:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

lollin at the idea of k3v waving a $5 bill and looking very stern like "well, if you don't get of SB I'm just not going to support you guys in the future"

oh yeah sb is v funny but i don't think it should result in a ban, should be like a poke or something

exactly this, it's funny to talk about and make references too but as I mentioned above I highly doubt people have ever thought "man I'm glad that guy's gone for the next 4 weeks", its like get over yaselves people

i have thought that about almost every single person who has been SBed. that's the whole point of SBing people is making them go away for a while.

vindictive too!

some ppl may withhold donations unless assured that SB will not exist in the future, who knows!

― k3vin k., Friday, December 9, 2011 12:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

lollin at the idea of k3v waving a $5 bill and looking very stern like "well, if you don't get of SB I'm just not going to support you guys in the future"

― dayo, Friday, December 9, 2011 1:48 PM (1 hour ago)

haha yeah it's a lol concept but i shall be at peace w/ myself first & foremost, won't be a part of this obamanation of justice

On behalf of my other posters, thank you for being a shining light and a fine example of modesty and restraint. Your courage inspires, literally, millions.

i somehow accidentally bookmarked this thread

*removes bookmark from thread*

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KvDFauTmm3g/S8hqKXUHDgI/AAAAAAAAAx8/t2AF7ZQl9vw/s1600/animals-at-computer-04.jpg

i need not even accept your thanks, i hope my earnestness up til now speaks for itself xxp

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_oTM4yEhEgtA/S9Z567448wI/AAAAAAAABmg/faO_uVIWKKc/s1600/cat-on-computer.jpg

haha yeah it's a lol concept but i shall be at peace w/ myself first & foremost, won't be a part of this obamanation of justice

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a_q7OcrV30g/Su7WzfKjkGI/AAAAAAAACNQ/RS-8C7e_uo8/s400/cute-bunny-computer-500.jpg

that husky is me irl - how'd you get dat pic?

I highly doubt people have ever thought "man I'm glad that guy's gone for the next 4 weeks", its like get over yaselves people

Yeah sorry I'm with n/a here, in at least a few cases I've thought exactly this. Or at least "maybe now they can cool the fuck off" if said person is being meltdown central and wont listen to reason - it doesnt always have to be a vindictive thing (cf Bimble for eg)

That said I think I've maybe sb'ed one reg and one or 2 trolls.

Holy crap, the Giants are going to win?

I turned this game off after the Manning interception.

it doesnt always have to be a vindictive thing (cf Bimble for eg)

I am actually smDh at this.

uh yeah what the hell

maybe some scattered dicks had pressed the button vindictively in the previous six months, that doesn't mean the huge cluster of ppl asking Bimble to chill out and stop shouting and refrain from bombing multiple threads THAT NIGHT were in any way maliciously motivated

I'm sure they weren't. Really. (honest)

Just, that's a really bad example.

it is, tbh

yeah I think Bimble is probably argument #1, 2, & 3 against sb

(I of course was not around on ILX when that happened though so)

iirc Bimble was mod-banned that night, not SB'd. just sayin'.

yeah didnt know. nm.

iirc Bimble was mod-banned that night, not SB'd. just sayin'.

― sleeve sandbox, Monday, December 12, 2011 11:15 AM (1 minute ago)

i don't think this is true. and if it is, it was because he was on the verge of being SB'd

i was ambivalent toward SB before that but when a prominent, likeable, and ultimately harmless (not to mention severely depressed) poster was SB'd, mentioned to at least one poster via email that being banned deeply upset him, and eventually killed himself, that was pretty much the turning point for me.

i'm not saying SB directly led to bimble's suicide. but i couldn't remember whether i was one of those 51 people or not, and i still feel like absolute dogshit to think i could have had something to do with it

You wouldn't believe it by the way you continue to treat posters around here like shit.

^^^

mentioned to at least one poster via email that being banned deeply upset him

also wrong iirc

guyz

He mentioned it to me, actually, but I don't blame the existence of SB on what happened subsequently.

i am basically ambivalent about sbing, or not excited enough one way or the other to post about it, but you would think this thread, on this sb-free board, would make some kind of persuasive case for one side of the argument

Yeah I think we should leave bimble out of this thread from now on, its such a weird thing to bring into this and I'm regretting even tangentially contributing to it. It was just the idea of k3vin feeling guilty for anything was pretty lol to me.

He told chatz last week that he didn't mind being banned for a month and he enjoyed the time off ilx. He did say he didnt know if he would come back straight away. Now sadly we will never know.
His personal problems had nothing to do with ilx. But his friends on ilx did help him in the past. He was always appreciative of that.

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 August 2009

stfu k3vin

whoops, read alfred's post sleeve

again i'm not directly linking the two

^^ seriously, jeez kevin

xp

what bimble said to chatz vs what he said to ilxors on mail vs guys srsly

yeah um the possiblility that Bimble was modbanned makes me feel v uncomfortable with what I posted upthread.

I'm really sorry.

I made myself a promise that I would never, ever get into this again, but here I am anyway.

I'm only back on ILX in the sandbox because there is no SB here. Which means that I actually feel comfortable again ~talking~ to people, joking with people, asking questions about music, trying to be supportive to friends going through a rough time - knowing that I will not be penalised at random, with an awful sword of damocles hanging over my head.

Because that *fear*, it doesn't stop my freakouts when I think I've been insulted, it doesn't stop my manic episodes (and it certainly doesn't stop clusterfucks *about* me) - but it DOES stop me from having sensitive conversations with people, which I fear will be misinterpreted and penalised without explanation.

You guys talk a lot about how you think SB ~should~ function and spend very little time listening to people who have been SB'd multiple times, and how it affects our behaviour - and how it doesn't. To me, this just comes off like a bunch of Republicans talking about how Abstinence Only sex ed really *should* stop teenagers from getting pregnant and being mystified that it somehow doesn't.

If the Sandbox was a massive open warfare between ppl relieved of the responsibility to be nice to one another, you might have an argument for keeping it. If anything, I see people forced to take responsibility for their own actions, and actually make the choice either ignore or engage with people.

But I've said this time and again, and been ignored, so I don't expect anyone to listen now. I'll enjoy this while it lasts, and go lurker again when you bring it back.

I'd like the question to be "If it never came back, would you miss it and to what extent?"

sb threads

sb isn't even on sandbox and we still have sb threads

yeah deems dont worry; when sb is gone we will have loads of threads clamoring for its return

lol 'BRING BACK SB YOU BASTARDS' can't you just see it

I'm with FT on this one. It does seem odd to chase away awesome old-skool posters because of SB. I know of people IRL who are mortified of ILX because of the threat of banning by posting anything that long-term posters disagree with.

Why do you think ILX has such a large lurking contingent, while there only seem to be a couple of dozen regular posters? Hint: it's not the lolcat threads. ILX is great for intellectual tussling, but you guys hit hard, and unless you're v.good at standing on your own two feet right off the bat, it's intimidating, scary and nasty. Fold that into the fact that not everyone has skin made of iron and can shrug off mean, nasty, ad hominem attacks, and I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that ILX's success is despite of SB, not because of it.

Not to defend SB, but large lurking contingents are the rule, not the exception: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_(Internet_culture)

Is there a way of SB-ing lurkers?

Not all of them btw, just the ones who lurk in an annoying way.

Ones that look at threads 'funny'?

xp I did not know that! That is interesting!

Just because it's the norm tho, doesn't make it right. ILX seems to be a LOT nicer than other messageboards, but we're far from perfect. I trust the mods to chuck anyone out who is being for-real disruptive, and I'm really not sure that SB isn't doing more good than harm.

wait ilx is nastier and harder hitting than other sites or it's nicer than other sites

Was there more or less really out-there ad hom etc pre-sb

Struggle to think of the last newly-christened lurker that got sb'd for disagreeing with ppl, long-term ilxors or otherwise

Really don't see the angle here.

or:
What are lurkers so afraid to post that would get them sb'd, essentially

lotsa chelsea fans out there somewhere, just sayin'

is that a threat!

ILX is a lot nicer than other sites imo, probably because we seem to have an older demographic than most messagaboards.

In the conversations I've had, lurkers are afraid to post anything that runs contrary to the accepted thread's opinion because they think they and their views will get demolished and, eventually, they'll get SBd. Whether they actually would or not isn't really the point, it's the threat that's putting people off.

Footie threads seem to be the exception to this, since I think footie fans are used to arguing their challopsy opinions against all comers. I would assume the dynamics on other ILX sports threads/boards are similar.

ftr i don't SB people for saying stuff i disagree with, just really asinine or challopy stuff that i disagree with or for trying to make ilx boring like other boring message boards

or because i disagree with them

or because i'm hungover

they think they and their views will get demolished and, eventually, they'll get SBd.

Why would they think they'd be SB'd? Because they disagree with someone? Nice one, ILX.

yeah how dare you do something imaginary that never actually happens ILX, for shame

I didn't think it did!

tbh if ilx discourages a percentage of boring opinions this is a win

Why would they think they'd be SB'd?

Because as soon as someone says something people disagree with, it turns into a massive ad hominen insulting clusterfuck, especially if they try and defend themselves, and an SB seems to be the obvious conclusion to that, no?

not necessarily, you can always get your SB in at the start and then move on to the ad hom

yeah but that's what i'm saying, there's no basis for that belief at all, sure what can you do if someone's tellin you that?

I'd sb them

but again, by definition you can't ad hom a new poster cos you don't have any hom to ad, so i still think it's a case of attacking the idea.

but in all seriousness, a bit of slapstick intellectual vigour isn't a bad thing in a world full of Youtube comment threads

that is so far from the ilx norm imo NE

am worried there's a world of pop-despising John Terry-loving hyper-Tories out there desperate to post on ILX but frightened we'll be mean

Because as soon as someone says something people disagree with, it turns into a massive ad hominen insulting clusterfuck, especially if they try and defend themselves, and an SB seems to be the obvious conclusion to that, no?

Well, I don't think so, but what do I know? Obv. I'm not posting to enough ad hominen insulting clusterfucks.

Fold that into the fact that not everyone has skin made of iron and can shrug off mean, nasty, ad hominem attacks, and I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that ILX's success is despite of SB, not because of it.

This is totally confused. One of the things SB is arguably good at is giving people a way to say that mean, nasty ad hominem attacks are not OK, without having to give themselves a skin of iron to face the ultra-vocal minority.

And if you think ILX is nice, I think the culture change that SB was a small part of is one of the reasons why. In 2006, it wasn't so nice. It's interesting to see some of the old sandbox threads from that time pop up around here -- there's a really different, much more fuck-you, tone to some of them.

This is what's so frustrating, talking about this. Because a bunch of ~dudes~ who can't see past their own experiences keep insisting "I don't feel this way, so I can never imagine anyone ever feeling this way, so therefore, despite the actual stated evidence of people telling me that they feel this way... INCONCEIVABLE! NO ONE CAN EVER FEEL THIS WAY AT ALL EVER!"

SB does *nothing* to control clusterfucks. In fact, I think it actively discourages moderators from actually stepping in to do something pro-active about clusterfucks because hey, "SB will eventually take care about that, why should I take the shit for stopping it" and it's all just fun and games if a poster gets ILX bullied into their local emergency room with stress-related psychological issues directly triggered by a 500 post pile-on. (And that poster is actually *afraid* to even bring this experience up on ILX for fear that they'll be SB'd for even talking about that kind of experience.)

But of course, none of you ~dudes~ can possibly imagine things like that happening because hey, footie fans can ~handle~ thrashing out their challopsy opinions so it's inconceivable that anyone else would look at something like that and be put off contributing a valuable and interesting opinion for fear of being treated in that way, or SB'd by some jerk with a hangover?

Why would anyone even try to explain their differing opinions on ILX, if their differing experiences and perceptions are just pooh-poohed and utterly dismissed outright by a bunch of dudes with arms crossed?

ILX is ~nicer~ now because a small handfull of tone-setting arseholes like Dom and Chaki and Jon Williams were MODERATOR BANNED.

If you want to continue to say "SB is the reason ILX is nicer now" you can go on saying that til you're blue in the face, but again, it's like republicans insisting that abstinence only sex ed must work because, well, we beleive in it.

yeah how dare you do something imaginary that never actually happens ILX, for shame

you must be new

sb isn't the reason some posters keep getting involved in clusterfucks either, tbph

FT, i think somewhere where i was being serious i made reference to the fact that your SBing was mean-spirited and not cool, and very much about yr board persona and long term grudges.

Firstly, none of that cd possibly apply to people who aren't at least reasonably well-known board posters.

Secondly, and i sincerely mean this with respect, but your confrontational approach to disagreement - and sometimes, i think, disagreement with no underlying malice intended - at the least gives people an excuse to hit the SB. it takes some going to reach 51 and you have to consider that a percentage of that 51 came from people who had no personal ill will but were unhappy with the way you were conducting yourself on the board. as stet says, SB does give people the chance to register a serious protest without going full-on flame war or drawing attention to themselves that they mightn't want.

ILX is ~nicer~ now because a small handfull of tone-setting arseholes the realest posters we ever had like Dom and Chaki and Jon Williams were MODERATOR BANNED.

am worried there's a world of pop-despising John Terry-loving hyper-Tories out there desperate to post on ILX but frightened we'll be mean

― Angles that bitch (Julie Lagger), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:27 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

looool

sb isn't the reason some posters keep getting involved in clusterfucks either, tbph

I didn't say that.

I said that SB is the reason that *moderators* don't step in to do something about clusterfucks, believing that "SB will just take care of that" when SB does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop clusterfucks.

If you can't grasp the nuance of that, I seriously give up.

Oh So Real! (xposts)

Anyway, I thought Chaki just plain left.

in the sense that Leon Trotsky just plain left the Communist Party, yes

I'm obv. not as well attuned as some to the 'niceness' of ILX past and present

Firstly, none of that cd possibly apply to people who aren't at least reasonably well-known board posters.

I have tried to get SO MANY people I know to participate on ILX becauase they have great things to say about music, and I want their opinions to be heard. But when they see the way that many people (yes, including me and my grudge SB-ing) get treated, they tell me "I can't deal with doing that."

People watch. People learn, people project how *they* will be treated, from seeing how others are treated. This is something you just don't seem to grasp. You don't even know, the people that you have lost. But they've told me, after they walk away.

Leon Trotsky had a hot chick waiting for him in his bed?

I'm sorry, I can't do this. I feel my blood pressure rising and my brain starting to tick over into stuff that I know will do me no good, mentally. I'm out, and it's probably for the best.

Funnily enough, I have only ever invited one person to ILX.

Let's say, we lived through 'interesting times'.

I wouldn't want anyone I know reading the shite I post on ILX

Has any ~dude~ here said "no one can ever feel this way ever?"

Also: Is this a particularly gender-differentiated topic? There are plenty of ~dudes~ who hate SB too, FT.

You don't even know, the people that you have lost. But they've told me, after they walk away.
I know about all the people we lost that led to us adding SB. Are they more or less valuable than the would-be posters who would like to post but are afraid that posting like you do would get them SB'd too?

^^^

my ^^^^ were xp tbh

As someone who's been SB'd like four times, I think SB is hilarious and awesome and I try to SB everyone for the dumbest shit.

People lived on ILX for a while, then they moved on.

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/images/2011/10/486687.jpg

Is there a big 'History of SB Book' somewhere? Or a jaymc.xls of who has been banned throughout the years? Surely it's no more than fifteen people right? And some were banned several times (hi dere whiney and frogbs).

I mean, I get what some of you are saying, I won't doubt anyone's honest feelings on the matter, but to say people are "mortified" to post here, or as FT says "But when they see the way that many people get treated they tell me "I can't deal with doing that"... I don't know. "Many people" are treated poorly here?

LJ caught three or four, T-dogg and Hongroe have done two bids each iirc

Well, my point I was making wayyyy back was:

For something like the SB feature to get 'removed', it'd take a consensus of people to say "We dislike it please take it away".

Whereas here, and possibly on our new hosting server, it may well be something that 'costs extra' to re-establish. Which means it would need a general consensus to say "We must have it"

I was asking "Can we do without it?"

Yes we can. We went without before and are doing without now. Real question is if we want it back once we can have it back.

can we speculate on the people we may have lost, living in a sb culture - perhaps a young, timid but brilliant blond student boy, fresh with ideas but afraid of internet scorn, his opinions on burritos & energy efficiency lost to time, kept inside, mumbled under his breath on his quiet subway rides home; or a young woman with fire in her heart, but without the patience to have to explain herself politely, the way one must when keeping within the strictly drawn lines painted by sb law

schlump frequently otm

For something like the SB feature to get 'removed', it'd take a consensus of people to say "We dislike it please take it away".

I dislike it, so I don't use it, if other people do that's up to them

lol people getting heated about a fucking sb

sb is over, if you want it

is anyone else keeping a notepad tally of people they're gonna belatedly sb when we get back to ilx, lookin at you carnitas

~dude~-ishness has little to do with gender, it's an attitude and an imperviousness to recognising other people's points of view as valid. Not every man is a ~dude~ by any stretch.

I know about all the people we lost that led to us adding SB. Are they more or less valuable than the would-be posters who would like to post but are afraid that posting like you do would get them SB'd too?

It's not "posting like I do" - this is what I can't seem to get across. It's friends who say to me "jesus, you have an elephant's hide when it comes to dealing with internet crap, and *you* have trouble there? What is gonna happen to someone like me, who is actually sensitive and quite self conscious about getting blasted for saying the wrong thing?"

These are the people you lose to SB, not fuckwits like Whiney who can't learn/won't learn.

Now I'm going to go and look at pictures of Thom Yorke's ponytail for the rest of the afternoon because this is like beating my head against a brick wall.

i have 6-month reminders set into my phone, straight up

awesome I cant wait xxp

Whereas here, and possibly on our new hosting server, it may well be something that 'costs extra' to re-establish. Which means it would need a general consensus to say "We must have it"

It doesn't cost extra, we will be having it.

That said, and this might feel like merely a cosmetic change, but I do kinda hate the phrasing "Suggest Ban" and may change it to "Flag Post" to better reflect what it does.

(Someone generating a huge number of flagged posts would be still be likely to get some mod beats, but we haven't had the completely automated Ban for some years now.)

xp to me: FT's had at least two too? both of Tuomas' were directly a result of anti-SB-clusterfuckery*, and I think that's been at least an immediate, if not the dominant, factor in hers

*he'd gotten near the top of the hill a week or so before the first time by blithely posting a link to str0mfr[]nt in classic "idk what's going on" stylee, but the clusterfucking would have taken him all the way eventually

PS FT I hope you've both stopped reading this thread and continue to enjoy your sandbox experience

is anyone else keeping a notepad tally of people they're gonna belatedly sb when we get back to ilx

Got a greasemonkey script which adds an SB button, queues them up to be released in a torrent of fury when ilx proper returns.

lol xp again, also insert comma in last sentence

"Flag Post" is entirely different, to my mind.

yeah, rly good idea imo

i like stet swooping in w/some sage logic about something that has been debated for one hundred thousand years w/o touching on such a move

this is the kind of brave leadership we need

I seriously have a hard time believing that people would be afraid to post to ILX for fear of being SB'd when only a handful of people (all of whom deserved it in one way or another) have ever acutally been SBd. That is just ridiculous and makes me think people are exaggerating the SB system and what it entails/results in.

seems like ol curious orange doesn't know a lot about how totalitarian regimes start

http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/funny-gifs-cat-vs-string.gif

l-r: ilxors, SB

the thing i don't get about SBs is why the mods etc seem so determined to defend and maintain a system that really hasn't had a massive impact on ilx apart from contributing to periodic clusterfucks like this in which the same things are said every time. almost every SB to date has surely been for either a) something that should've merited a mod ban anyway, or b) a direct result of being annoying during SB clusterfucks.

like, why is it so important to keep SBs? idgi

(nb i mean a "massive impact" on ilx generally rather than any poster in particular)

I find it hard to believe any lurkers even read these insane board politics threads, so how would they even know about the tyranny of the sb button?

I feel like all newly registered users should start out with 25 SBs, just so they can feel the weight of the tyranny

I'm not opposed to taking away SBs, if that's what the consensus opinion is, but I'm pretty sure they're hear to stay. Frankly, I'd be more comfortable having *some* ammo (i.e. at least 51 posts indicating other people are sick of someone's dickery) before temp banning them from the board, and eating all sorts of kneejerky flak about how the mods are targeting/picking on/ethnic cleansing the board to suit their own purposes.

Rather than just poke holes at the admittedly imperfect SB system, maybe some of the strong opponents could suggest how and when posters who would be SBed would be fairly alerted to the fact they were about to be censured somehow.

Can someone SB me from this thread? I don't even know why I'm reading it or why we're having this conversation YET AGAIN but I can't stop. We're talking about something that has had an impact on a v small number of people who needed to change their behavior. I honestly don't understand people getting all up in arms about this AGAIN. Gah.

'Flag post' is a much better idea than SB; when it reaches 50 banning shouldn't be automatic, but rather there should be a discussion or a panel or something to resolve the issue.

(fps everybody)

i think the last thing ilx needs is more discussion related to SB/Flag Post

'flag poster' makes more sense to me than 'flag post'

suggest death panel
xxp

'flog poster' even better

I seriously have a hard time believing that people would be afraid to post to ILX for fear of being SB'd when only a handful of people (all of whom deserved it in one way or another) have ever acutally been SBd. That is just ridiculous and makes me think people are exaggerating the SB system and what it entails/results in.

I agree with that, I think SB is a really stupid feature but it's not really a big deal

more than that I think ILX's culture of piling on the "undesirables" and the really nasty/personal attacks are what makes the message board suck. because in general I do feel that ILX is a "nicer" and maybe "more intelligent" board than many (as in discussion is like at a 9th grade level, at least), so to see the place suddenly devolve into SomethingAwful when a few people disagree with someone is kinda out of place

It's friends who say to me "jesus, you have an elephant's hide when it comes to dealing with internet crap, and *you* have trouble there? What is gonna happen to someone like me, who is actually sensitive and quite self conscious about getting blasted for saying the wrong thing?"

This almost exactly mimics my experience with trying to get smart people with interesting opinions to post to ILX. They may well be all wrong, but it's certainly what they experience. It could be that ILX only wants internet hardmen on the board in which case it's not an issue, but assuming that we actually want a more diverse spread of views on here, then we're gonna have to take another look.

+1 for name change to "Flag Post" or similar, that would be a good start, it makes it sound significantly less aggressive. SM OTM.

xxxxps

We're talking about something that has had an impact on a v small number of people who needed to change their behavior.

tell us more about the "model poster" we should all aspire to

'flog poster' even better

― los krampusinos! (pomplamau5), Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:29 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

flag sitta post

Flag obv. short for flagellate

You mean this was a semantic argument all along? Good lord. (agreed that FP sounds better tho, and knowing there is no magic 51=autoban lessens my ire considerably)

The fact is that some (very very few) comedy bans are unearned, and a few posters in the past probabably shouldn't've been hounded off the board. But if you go into a community (message board) and manage to piss off 51 people, you're probably not in the right place and should leave, and if you need the incentive of 51 irriated posters clicking GET YE GONE to push you over an edge, you likely lack the social graces to respond to a gentler push.

Call it "FLAG POST" or "WHIP" or "FLING POOP" or "SUGGEST BAN" and it's all the same thing, although it might seem a little more pleasant.

the thing i don't get about SBs is why the mods etc seem so determined to defend and maintain a system

tbf I don't think they are. Some are, but some also dislike it just as much. I personally am for it on balance (obv) but don't pretend it's anything like perfect or doesn't have problems.

(one thing I think could maybe appeal specifically to a mod about it is that's it's at least more democratic than just banning on a single mod's opinion, which means the common and easy "x was just banned because a mod hates them personally, the board adores their roguish ways and telling of truth to fools" mod attack is harder to sustain.) xp

Remy otm. Rolo - obv there's no model poster but if 51 ppl think you're doing something wrong and/or offensive then there's probably something up that you should take a look at.

Who are these scared people getting their info about ILX or the SB from? I've certainly shared some unpopular opinions over the years and have never had more than 10 SBs at any one time as far as I know. Could it be that they're not getting a very balanced view of how the whole thing works?

If this is about semantics I'll rep for a button that says SHAME, SHAME and displays to the idiot a cartoon .gif of Newman in Jurassic Park locking out the computer system.

where are all these vicious attacks on the lone & reasonable dissenters taking place? Should i be even more glad than i am that i don't post to ilm?

fwiw i have also had the exact same response many many times re: getting people to post here

That is so very strange. I'd still like to know where they're getting their info from.

This almost exactly mimics my experience with trying to get smart people with interesting opinions to post to ILX. They may well be all wrong, but it's certainly what they experience.

Yes, mine too, and I get mail to this end, and this problem is part of the thinking behind SB -- posters shouldn't have to be internet hardmen to post on ILX. But I don't think many people would argue that ILX is actually cuddlestein, and these posters are somehow confused.

What FT seems to be saying, though, that it's not the need to be an internet hardman that her potential posters are scared of, but SB itself. Which I don't fully understand. It might be happening, but I don't think it's half as common as people getting put off by the rambunctiousness.

Anybody I've directed to the board who doesn't post cites the ridiculous number of in-jokes and pervasive meta-metaness and cliqueyness. I've never had anybody say anything about the HARD MAN CULTURE because for fuckssakes, I post on here and I am giant wuss.

I'd still like to know where they're getting their info from.

from reading the boards?

SB has no impact on people being internet dicks! it clamps down on the LOUDEST posters, not the meanest ones

yeah the cliqueyness seems like more of a barrier, you sorta have to have a loud personality to be noticed xp

very in favor of 'FLING POOP'

yeah but lex thats an important distinction from what stet was arguing against, which was the idea that SB was preemptively thwarting people from coming here to post.

Idk what to do about the meanness in this world

xxp

when did this turn into an encounter group

What FT seems to be saying, though, that it's not the need to be an internet hardman that her potential posters are scared of, but SB itself.

Yes, can't agree with this. SB had been up and running for like a month before i even knew what it was.

more than that I think ILX's culture of piling on the "undesirables" and the really nasty/personal attacks are what makes the message board suck.

where are the threads where we do this, i want in

Remy otm. Rolo - obv there's no model poster but if 51 ppl think you're doing something wrong and/or offensive then there's probably something up that you should take a look at.

I really don't agree with that since there's a real junior high mentality around here and you see posters just openly saying "everybody, you need to sb this guy"

I don't think these challops that get people banned are that indefensible, just that most posters who agree are probably afraid to say so

srsly

The SB functionality isn't so much the problem as the culture around it, obviously, or there'd be no thread.

I seriously have a hard time believing that people would be afraid to post to ILX for fear of being SB'd when only a handful of people (all of whom deserved it in one way or another) have ever acutally been SBd. That is just ridiculous and makes me think people are exaggerating the SB system and what it entails/results in.

― ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ (~curious orange~), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:14 (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

Flagged post for excellence and otm'ness

you see posters just openly saying "everybody, you need to sb this guy"

As a joke surely

there are some 'challenging opinions' itt that make me miss sb thats for sure

What FT seems to be saying, though, that it's not the need to be an internet hardman that her potential posters are scared of, but SB itself. Which I don't fully understand. It might be happening, but I don't think it's half as common as people getting put off by the rambunctiousness.

there are like a zillion factors that make ilx what it is & the delicate engineering & interlacing of each is part of what makes ilx - i am sure there is some sort of balanced interplay even between ilx as hardman central & ilx as sb-haven that give it some kind of character or suggest an appropriate degree of leeway. there are a million things that would or wouldn't make ilx a desirable place to post to - privacy, aesthetics of taste, aesthetics of message boards, dominant posting style, &c&c&c - & so speculating on those that are lost or deterred by the occurrence of some of these traits feel weird - i'm sure others would be deterred or attracted by some other alternate-universe slight-variation on ilx. ilx is real good to read, a lot of good discussion happens on it, i'm sure some of that is down to what it's like.

you see posters just openly saying "everybody, you need to sb this guy"

As a joke surely

yeah seriously this is like almost exclusively aerosmith when someone talks shit about rice or something, i can't really remember a lot of sincere, indignant "please suggest ban this awful man" going on

he really does like rice

suggest basmati

Flag pasta

I really don't agree with that since there's a real junior high mentality around here and you see posters just openly saying "everybody, you need to sb this guy"

Yes. And it never happens that people actually all freak out and run to the SB. I'm sure other mods will back me up on this, but I've never ever seen this happen, except in the unfortunate (?) instance of Whiney and the Big Bottom Birds. The most flags I've ever seen for a single post are, like 4 or 5, and that has happened v, v, v, rarely.

Nearly every single instance of awful piling on that I can recall occurs b/w board regulars, and escalates slowly over time; not as the result of a single trigger-happy SB culture.

i like rice

and pasta

also if anybody wants to come see my one new band, Whiney and the Big Bottom Birds, we'll be playing a benefit gig next week for victims of unnecessary SBing

haha I was gonna say, at least this thread created a great bandname

the unfortunate (?) instance of Whiney and the Big Bottom Birds

how is this not a childrens book
xp lol

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51yZa751uqL.jpg

you see posters just openly saying "everybody, you need to sb this guy"

As a joke surely

Yeah I have never, ever seen this happen seriously.

Unless I've got it all wrong and everytime someone posts "SB'd you for that" they are actually SB'ing people.

Blah blah blah SB is an infringement of my human rights blah blah

i am not really gonna retroactively sb carnitas just for the record

there are like a zillion factors that make ilx what it is & the delicate engineering & interlacing of each is part of what makes ilx

otm. I think some of the things that prevent people posting are desirable, in that they keep out the type of posts that make other forums so insufferable, while otoh some of them keep out the type of posts ILX wants.

The real challenge is finding the balance. I've said before that ILX shouldn't be 4chan, but nor should it be Metafilter.

ilx: the best parts of 4chan and metafilter

they keep out the type of posts that make other forums so insufferable,

I've never been on another forum!

metafilter: the garrison keillor of the internet

http://assets.flavorwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/garrison-keillor.jpg

Why do you think ILX has such a large lurking contingent, while there only seem to be a couple of dozen regular posters? Hint: it's not the lolcat threads. ILX is great for intellectual tussling, but you guys hit hard, and unless you're v.good at standing on your own two feet right off the bat, it's intimidating, scary and nasty.

this is so sad!

just came to 77 and hang ten if someone doesn't like your opinion on the weeknd or whatever, it's such a bummer that people are afraid to contribute!

i think the internet has created this tendency for people to always have to feel "right" or that they are offering an opinion that seems correct or whatever. people worry too much about looking like they are "wrong," they also worry too much about what other people think.

lurkers worry about sb, apparently

Lurkers come forth, y'all can't be as bad as whiney and he survived four sbullets

yeah the average posters will never get more than 10 sbs during his/her duration as a poster

seriously, if you're a lurker and then you bravely come forth and offer your opinions, and they are so bad and hated that you get SB'd purely because you're so wrong all the time (and not because of a combative posting style or because you're actually insane), then i salute you. that would be amazing.

fu i'm permanently on 12

yeah I think the #1 stumbling block over getting new people to post is not fear of SB but fear of standing out among noted internet personalities!

I mean I think even lurkers understand why somebody like frogsbs gets SB'd, repeatedly, just mashed into the ground, over and over

I am unexpectedly missing the ilx thread where we ask a mod how many suggest bans we have. I don't feel right that we currently inhabit a world where that's an impossibility.

there was a time when I was at 11, but last I checked I was @ 9

I don't know much about frogsbs or most of the other 'victims' of the SB tbh, apart from Dom and Geir, they haven't really made much impression on me either way

But I suppose that's down to the threads you chose to post in

Why do you think ILX has such a large lurking contingent, while there only seem to be a couple of dozen regular posters? Hint: it's not the lolcat threads. ILX is great for intellectual tussling, but you guys hit hard, and unless you're v.good at standing on your own two feet right off the bat, it's intimidating, scary and nasty. Fold that into the fact that not everyone has skin made of iron and can shrug off mean, nasty, ad hominem attacks, and I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that ILX's success is despite of SB, not because of it.

― You failed, you didn’t eat the whole pizza (NotEnough), Tuesday, December 13, 2011 7:21 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

ilx quality control, the secret ingredient that makes everything work!

seriously, if you're a lurker and then you bravely come forth and offer your opinions, and they are so bad and hated that you get SB'd purely because you're so wrong all the time (and not because of a combative posting style or because you're actually insane), then i salute you. that would be amazing.

― Z S, Tuesday, December 13, 2011 10:46 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

and his name was gabneb

haha otm

hahaha, ok but that was a rare exception, no regrets

yup

He's back though.

do we know that for a fact?

You tell me: 2012 GOP Presidential Campaign -- "This individual's going to accuse me of an affair for an extended period of time."

ya I guessed the same thing but was just spectulating

i support letting everyone ever banned back in, sb modban or whatever, we can always ban them again right

Oh, and hi guys. :)

― C.K. Dexter Holland, Saturday, December 10, 2011 1:54 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Permalink

http://www.garybabb.net/DramaticChipmunk.gif

I seriously have a hard time believing that people would be afraid to post to ILX for fear of being SB'd when only a handful of people (all of whom deserved it in one way or another) have ever acutally been SBd. That is just ridiculous and makes me think people are exaggerating the SB system and what it entails/results in.

― ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ (~curious orange~), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 15:14 (30 minutes ago)

i just really dislike the whole literally casting people out aspect of it all - if i were SB'd it would suck but i know i could definitely handle it, but it seems to hit others harder. i'm glad we've done away with permabans but i really think we ought to reconsider 30 day SBs as well, it just seems really cruel and unnecessary given the offenses most have gotten it for, and it seems to me like a temp mod-thread ban would suffice in most cases. i'd actually be a lot more OK with SB if it were like for a week instead of 30 days, i think that seems much more fair; all of us post here every damn day as it is so it's not like a week would be a slap on the risk.

as for improving the SB experience, many of us have suggested various reasonable things that could be implemented, none of which have been put into place or even seriously considered, such as a running SB count that you could check on the 'boards' page or something (to his credit forks and maybe iirc WmC have taken it upon themselves to email people who've amassed at least 40 (no, i haven't gotten one of these, lol)), or a notification when you are SB'd, and a way to see the post for which you were SB'd. another idea could be for the SB'ers to leave a comment of some kind, either to the SB'ee or to the mods, or both. i realize this would entail some more coding for the admins who i'm sure are busy as it is. i also strongly dislike the anonymity of SB, but that's kind of a personal thing i guess. it seems really cowardly to me - it seems like the person being SB'd should know who is accusing him or her of ruining the board for someone else, and why

for the most part i think ppl itt are kinda of the mind that it won't happen to them, other ppl should just get over it, which is kinda sad and pretty much counter to the way most ppl on this board ime go about thinking about other (admittedly more macro and important) issues

nothin but love

i still want to see these threads where ppl 'hit hard' feel like im missing all the good stuff rn

stfu jerk!

lol pwn

deal w/it (-B

kev k, ime, carries challenging opinions but does it pretty well

The reason a lot of ppl think sb won't ever happen to them is because it won't. I'm a dick but i've avoided it, for instance. There is a major behavioural input from the individual racking up 51 sb's and even if it came as a surprise to them, from any reasonable POV it shouldn't have

That's obv just a ~dude's~ theory though and we're just callous brutes telling ppl how to feel so y'know caveat emptor

just came to 77 and hang ten

i still think of 77 as the place where the cliquier ilxors go to bitch about others behind their back

if only

there are no cliques on ilx anymore

Some real great stuff on 88, before real ilx crashed--lots of bitching and complaining and zinging.

does that happen tho? (xp at lex)
it's mainly people talking about their mornings or posting fb stuff

i like the idea of being able to include a message when you sb someone, feel like this could be the ultimate secret board

haha ok finally figured out who p much resigned to deems is, sup dmac

sb chatz

excellent concept

Suggest ban anyone who fucks with Cary Grant's name in The Philadelphia Story.

i still think of 77 as the place where the cliquier ilxors go to bitch about others behind their back

― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:15 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

can we plz establish a place on ILX where this actually happens, would gladly pay $10 to have the privilege

sup kk!

The reason a lot of ppl think sb won't ever happen to them is because it won't. I'm a dick but i've avoided it, for instance. There is a major behavioural input from the individual racking up 51 sb's and even if it came as a surprise to them, from any reasonable POV it shouldn't have

cosign

sb anyone who outs ilxors on this board

There is a major behavioural input from the individual racking up 51 sb's

http://i.imgur.com/WcHBN.gif

i still think of 77 as the place where the cliquier ilxors go to bitch about others behind their back

no kidding there were some pretty disgusting things posted there especially from people I thought were respectible otherwise

Again, I don't know what 77 is. I'm just not paying sufficient attention here.

x-post Oh come on now, that's just horseshit.

Not just horseshit - that's p much a flat out lie unless there are a whole bunch of 77 threads that I haven't read but I don't think that's actually the case.

WHO R U ROLO TONY?

(ps wb orangey)

I have no idea what your DN is referring to but that sounds like a cru whose membership criteria I would surely meet. :)

Honestly we mostly talk about tits on 77 tbh

cf. atm machine

test

there was some shit on 77 early on, but i mean it is now the love-in zone of cuddlestein

btw if Rolo T is who I suspect he is then I think I know which thread he's referring to and would like to point out that it was not a 77 thread. If he's not then I apologize and pls carry on etc.

I have no idea what your DN is referring to but that sounds like a cru whose membership criteria I would surely meet. :)

ha just oblique for olbique's sake, mostly inspired by you and DJP chumming around in the brony thread.

Not just horseshit - that's p much a flat out lie unless there are a whole bunch of 77 threads that I haven't read but I don't think that's actually the case.

maybe i'm thinking of the wrong board but the fact is that things get pretty nasty

some ilxors initially took the opportunity to use 77 to snark on other ilxors who weren't yet on there didn't they? certain people (all since long gone whether mod-banished or sb'd into reform) in a place with that 'secretive' context would inevitably do this. a bit like what happened on noise for a while. once enough regulars joined it and warnings about what was/wasn't acceptable were in place this died out soon enough. that is my recollection.

also there's a rule that you can't talk about posters not on 77, on 77.

our recollection of the past is so faint. we must consult the ILX griot about the happenings in the before-time of the never-world.

RT - It's true - that thread that I think you're referring to isn't the nicest but it's not on 77. It happens. I just don't like when ppl think 77 is like some elite bitch fest. It's more so ppl can post details about their jobs and stuff without worrying about them getting found. Also, tits and Mark Ruffalo.

noise bord enemies list was hilar

also there's a rule that you can't talk about posters not on 77, on 77

True!

I want to know what thread curious and rolo are talking about now, that's what I want to know.

noise bord enemies list was hilar

Yes.

mid 00s noize bord revival

good times

laughter

also there's a rule that you can't talk about posters not on 77, on 77.

mmm and why was this rule needed

Because like 5 guys talked about dudes in the first few weeks of 77.

and hatched devious plots like posting snoopheadshack.gif in your threads. it had to be stopped!

lol at lex, no offense.

- 77 is where everyone talks behind everyone's back
- but there's a rule that says you can't do this.
- that's right! and why was that rule put in place?

lol @ lex worrying about people dissing him behind his back as if anyone ever holds their tongue in front of him

- USA where no one lets women vote.
- actually, there's a rule now that says they can.
- that's right! and why was that rule put in place?

ah he's just sniffing at elitist scum.

but 77 has been request invite for a while so no need, dude!

rip ask chaki

were you around for Ask Chaki?

http://beta.ilxor.com/sandbox/NewAnswersControllerServlet?boardid=151

the whole ask chaki/77/dont be a dick thing was just starting when i discovered ilx, i never posted to ask chaki but i read a few of the threads after the giant 1000+ thread where tombot and british mods laid down the new law

sb discussion ... in my sandbox?

i thought 77 only existed to talk about deathdr0ne

ah here now

I do think that curtailing the 77 secret missions was a mod step too far.

That was all me, and it happened after JJJ and LJ had their real names given to the psycho rapey guy, and I'd prob do it again.

No, I think I'm thinking of something that way preceded that incident.

√

I just don't like when ppl think 77 is like some elite bitch fest. It's more so ppl can post details about their jobs and stuff without worrying about them getting found.

^^this!

why would people talk about other people on 77 when so many people are on 77? that would be disastrous! i mean, i'm sure it happens sometimes when someone's just being an ass, but in general that would be a pretty stupid move

yeah at this point it would be pretty much the same as talking about someone on any other board

yeah I just assumed everyone was on 77

I did too until I started noticing ppl occasionally making comments about how they don't want any part of 77 or something and realized that there are people out there who think it's a secret club in a sneaky and malicious way which it is definitely not imo.

your average lurker might not be on there but who the hell is talking about them? xp

most of the time I don't even notice which threads are 77 and which aren't

fuck lurkers

all you lurkers reading this

fuck you

it's best they don't come around unless they want to get sb'd

Also, these people often seem to have intentionally not asked to be invited as if they're taking some moral stance on the matter said secretiveness which is pretty LOL if you actually know how silly and meaningless most of the stuff on 77 really is.

i still think of 77 as the place where the cliquier ilxors go to bitch about others behind their back

― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), dinsdag 13 december 2011 17:15 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink

What a lot of other people already said, but yeah this is so not the case. 77 is a friendlier environment because people can share more personal details.

77 = love

ew

jk!

LBI is otm there. Ironically, I think 77 has become generally a nicer place because it's a safe place for even the internet hardmen to drop the swagger and occasionally be earnest and unironic. Though you'd never get them to admit it on ILE or ILM.

or did I just give too much of the game away, hmmmm

And the lion lies down with the lamb....

who are the ilx hardmen tbh

stanm

it's a little known fact that what actually brought down the court of Louis XVI was the relentless hardmanning from certain courtiers, looking at you Vicomte de Valmont

fuck lurkers

all you lurkers reading this

fuck you

― iatee, Tuesday, December 13, 2011 1:11 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink

haha

he's right tho

SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT

no pics please

There are a staggering number of lurkers btw. We've done 35gb of traffic in 10 days. They could crush you, if they weren't all hiding.

That is sort of scary. I should probably keep that in mind before posting 1/2 the shit I post tbh.

hi, lurkers!

Yeah fuckers. Don't stir up this hive of lurkers because we will be on you like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyZwDcLGknU

stevie d was telling me a story the other day (IN REAL LIFE) about how he was out and about and someone came up to him and said "excuse me are you stevie d from ILX" because they had seen a picture of him and abbbottt.

*twilight zone music*

a friend of mine who lurks got to talking abt ilx w/some friend of his who im not acquainted with who it turns out also lurks and the guy was all 'i really like the poster called ice cr?m, i learn a lot from him' /braggin

Someone was looking at my funny on the bus recently and I had a moment of oh shit what if they're a lurker and recognize me but I don't recognize them and I got really freaked out. Logically I realize I probably had something on my face or whatever but it was sort of scary to think about.

both of those stories are fkn mental!!

x-post - Shut up, they did not!

We've done 35gb of traffic in 10 days.

whaaaat - I thought ILX was pretty low on data usage. like each thread is only a few kb. how the hell do we hit 35GB??

at my funny err me funny not my funny which sounds way ruder

I like how on a certain level we're just putting on a show for these people

its a true story guys, i can bring out the chat transcript if u like

No it's OK, I believe you. I guess.

although what he could be learning i can only guess

i'm super good friends with several ilxors now, it's a little weird telling people how we met since we didn't know each other growing up or in college or working together. i almost just want to say we met high fiving at a gloryhole behind the lake street kmart because it sounds less lame.

i just say "it's complicated" and endure the weird looks

'hey guys it's 2011, get with the program, man'

Through (your) a (best) friend (the internet)?

i say 'an nfl message board' and then enjoy the reaction

The circles of people I know who post here and the ones who know about ILX don't even come close to intersecting.

I mean, I've got buddies who are all like "Now why did you try to make a song sound like Lou Reed?" but none of them would know the letters I-L-X even if you put their backs to the wall.

"internet friends" covers it just fine these days

if I were to walk around in NYC I would probably get like 100 people following me just sayin

~pops jersey~

whaaaat - I thought ILX was pretty low on data usage. like each thread is only a few kb. how the hell do we hit 35GB??

nah, we're low on CPU usage. We get through a tonne of data. Tbf, some of those days I didn't have compression on so it was the full effect, but even at that it's barely 80k for a page and all the JS/stylesheets (if your browser hasn't cached them)

oh, my browser has cached them. my browser has cached the shit out of ilx

in a painfully and brutal fashion

/does the sums -- that works out to about 50,000 pages a day, which sounds about right xp

lol GUYS STOP REFRESHING THE ILNFL THREAD

i've had to tell a number of non-ilx friends about ilx in order to explain why i thought Hipster Puppies was funny.

see also: why every time i was out in public i had to verify that i was not hearing The Beatles

haw

One of these days, my brother is going to wander over here from reddit and try to start some Dr. Who thread. Y'all go easy on him.

has ilx ever been linked from reddit? do we have some sorta emergency evacuation method

the Dr Who crowd are pretty easy going as long as you hate any Dr Who from the last 10 years

http://www.reddit.com/search?q=site%3A%7Bilxor.com%7D

haha, http://www.reddit.com/user/OinkAdministrator

there should be a site for lurkers to hang out and discuss ilx, or maybe a secret board

www.ratemyilxor.com

OK. Who SB'ed the whole sandbox yesterday?

the Dr Who crowd are pretty easy going as long as you hate any Dr Who from the last 10 years

one grump hates the last seven years but is correct about five of them; one hated last year then rewatched it and cried tears of pure delight, then hated this year; everyone else is p much like whatever whatever

was sort of joking but i find the thread v. hard to read cos of mad nitpickery and begrudgement

in the absence of sb what's the recommended procedure, i know 'BAN x' threads were en vogue there for a while but i mean i think we ought to have contingency plans for this unsettling sandbox wastelandscape

BAN DARRAGHMAC

that's fair enough abt the Who thread rly, and I apologise as ever to any lurkers whose lurking experience I may have personally shitted up by either aggressively un-nitpicking or telling ppl to stfu, except Pleasant Plains' Schrodingerian brother, SBing that dude in advance

hay guise have you noticed that SB stand for Sand Box? Maybe when ppl get barred they can just come and chill out here for 30 days, seems p cool

sometimes i yearn for membership to a secret snarky & malicious club. not necessarily on ilx, or even on the internet, just in general

i blame satc

ew

― ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ (~curious orange~), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:27 (3 days ago) Bookmark Permalink

jk!

― ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ (~curious orange~), Tuesday, 13 December 2011 14:27 (3 days ago) Bookmark Permalink

lol!--it's true that 77 in its current incarnation is kind of gross, though! imo it has both the best & worst threads in all of ilx

SB may help prevent threads such as

is OK Computer a terrible album y/n [Started by that wiener from Emearlds (step hen faps) in December 2011, last updated 3 minutes ago by C.K. Dexter Holland on I Love Music] 124 new answers POLL closes: December 31 (in 1 week)

and posters such as

C K Dexter Holland

imo. just sayin

C K Dexter!!!!

He's a star!!!!!

ckd should not be SB'd, come on

he adds valuable flavor to the typical politics thread cycle.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5167/5212826954_dbb41f1086.jpg

http://www.ckdh.net/content/images/contests/rlwihnld_LoyalListener1.jpg

if I were to walk around in NYC I would probably get like 100 people following me just sayin

~pops jersey~

misread this as ~poops jersey~

lol

^ buttchuckle

*poops collar*

http://i.imgur.com/EIneL.gif
http://i.minus.com/iJaxQCRb7vMCQ.png
http://i.imgur.com/EIneL.gif

haha

i do that all the time :|

i have had that gif open in a tab for like a month waiting for the return of your blog

aw, it is a really nice gif

i like that his shuffle is on 1 and 3 and his head on 2 and 4

jamaican otter

is that a cat or an otter?

http://i.minus.com/iJaxQCRb7vMCQ.png

is that a cat or an otter?

http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/191124-1/Dog_air_humping.gif

loooool

Oh man dogs humping and just not quite getting it right is so sad. Benson always tries to make sweet love to one of his toys but it's too short and he winds up just desperately air humping and it's the most pathetic sight. Poor lil dudes.

humping is hard

when humping its hard

signs u've been on ilx too long

http://www.getdowngood.com/pics/GDG-Subb-An-v3-copy.jpg

lol we have flag post now

question is, who monitors?

you all may be please to know that there is ONE flagged post!

not much of a scandal, though. it apparently was a test.

a test of the emergency flag post system

are those still done btw? the emergency broadcast system? this is only a test...

we had warnings a month or so ago about this huge emergency broadcast system test... i didn't really understand how it was any different than a normal test... but we got dc alert emails about it for like 3 days leading up to it. v weird.

thread makes me v v curious about the ilx personas hiding behind sandbox masks

http://www.canadacardworld.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/pk_subban_canadacardworld.png

I mean who was rolo tony

You may find yourself living in a snoopheadshack.

srsly tho I need names

spunked my trousers i did

we can fp posts itt now :) :) :)

ok think i got em all

ALBATROSS