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― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Indeed!

The guy who plays Yemi is in the guest cast for tonight's ep, and it airs on Dia De Los Muertos, well done Lindelof et al.

― nklshs (nklshs), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know how I feel about everything being so segmented this season -- I mean, we've had four episodes so far, and Locke, Sayid, Sun, and Jin have only been in one each. So I'm excited about the Losties from the beach going on an expedition to find their friends. I'm really hoping that this 6-episode mini-arc will end with some kind of coming together.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I hope so too. But with cliffhangery momentum to lead into February's resumption.

I was about to relay what my cable channel guide says for tonight, but maybe it's too spoilery, plus everybody else probably already has their own source for the same info.

― I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link

So, tonite is the last new episode until February?

― grady (grady), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

No, there's two more, including tonight.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Last night I was thinking a lot about how the actor who plays Benry is really, really fantastic. Maybe I am reading more into it than I should but he always seems to show a lot of depth (hints of insecurity and weirdness when he is being big boss-man around the survivors, always seems way more composed and sure of himself interacting with the Others). It makes me happy is all.

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonster), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:09 (eighteen years ago) link

"God, I hate needles."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

haha, john, you are so hooked on a tv show!!

wait, so this ep and next ep and then no more new ones until february, are you kidding me? (see, i only watch tv shows, i srsly rarely know of tv things beyond the fictional spehere. ok, maybe actors'/directors'/writers' names but not much more really. reason #54543 to love the internet information zone and its insta-knowledge giving.)

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Just posted this in the Chicago thread, then I noticed this one...

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic

Fuck the hataz. Just 'cause they have short attention spans...

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link

otm re: benry actor!

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Jessie OTM re Henjamin/Benry. Also a very good sense of humor - his delivery on such a simple line as "you don't" (re: Sawyer "how do I know that's the same bunny?") - and weird tenderness that you almost NEVER get with tv villains.

And re: segmentation of cast, I've always loved in stupid fantasy novels etc when the disparate groups of characters miraculously come back together just in time for the most super important anyone-not-totally-bad-ass-need-not-apply missions, and am looking forward to February (as far away as it is) for Locke Sayid Des etc jungle adventures.

Also I hope they make "Nikki" and "Paulo" less shitty and/or more dead really soon.

― nklshs (nklshs), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link

At least Paolo is hot. Nikki looks a whole lot like Fergie from Black Eyed Peas.

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonster), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I chuckled at this from the TWOP recap:

Paulo is on the beach, knocking guava or mangos or whatever into the ocean. Oh, Paulo! At it again! Everybody drink!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Only it's okay to pee yr pants on craphole island.

Me and my roommate wager on LOST a bunch. We wager bottles of wine for some reason. Here is our current anty:

He bet me 1 bottle we would see Michael/Walt in first 6 ep story arc.
I bet him 1 bottle we would see smoke monster in only ONE of last 2 eps of first 6.
He bet me 1 bottle "Karl" is an off-islander.
I bet him 1 bottle Ben and Tom are lovers.
He bet me 1 bottle the Borat movie would only play in 2 theaters here (unrelated and kind of retarded on his part).

― nklshs (nklshs), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I bet him 1 bottle Ben and Tom are lovers.

i think you're gonna win this one

― jergins (jergins), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I met a lady who teaches at the private school that real-life Benry's real-life children attend. She said "it's creepy" when he comes to pick them up.

― grady (grady), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Paulo is on the beach, knocking guava or mangos or whatever into the ocean.

It suddenly occurred to me that it's stupid and unrealistic for him to be destroying part of their FOOD SUPPLY, air-drop or no air-drop.

― I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link

It looked like rocks to me. At first I was like "do they really have enough golf balls to be knocking them into the ocean like that?" But i'm pretty sure they were rocks.

― grady (grady), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

But they were splattering, weren't they?

― I Am Curious (George) (Slight Return) (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought they looked like kiwis, so, maybe hairy rocks? Or possibly freeze-dried polar bear nutsacks?

xpost no I think they had some "ping"

― nklshs (nklshs), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link

freeze-dried polar bear nutsacks

obv. nicka's new screen name.

― grady (grady), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I think fuselage.com just blocked my new thread attempt because it had the word "boobs" in the title (in ref to Alex grabbing Kate's boobs in s2 finale). This is an outrage!

― nklshs (nklshs), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't remember if sandbox uses ihttp or img src? Let's find out!

http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums/ep-caps/season2/finale/27/normal_livediecap1347.jpg

― nklshs (nklshs), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link

YES! BOOB CUPPAGE!

― nklshs (nklshs), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

BENRY = BLAIR.

That is all.

― much_aldo_about_nothing (much_aldo_about_nothing), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...

should of had an snl skit tonight with jack black as hurley and kyle whoever blowing up as arst

― jelky (jergins), Sunday, 3 December 2006 09:00 (seventeen years ago) link

OTM.

― grady (grady), Monday, 4 December 2006 04:13 (seventeen years ago) link

totally OTM. snl have gotten so lame about not doing "the obvious thing," especially if it might accidentally make you laugh.

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Monday, 4 December 2006 05:49 (seventeen years ago) link

"let's do a LOST parody..."

"that's so obvious. let's really blow some minds and do another DEEP HOUSE DISH! everyone loves that."

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Monday, 4 December 2006 05:50 (seventeen years ago) link

ellen allien. they were making fun of her but didn't even know it

― jelky (jergins), Monday, 4 December 2006 07:11 (seventeen years ago) link

matthew fox is a one-trick-pony. angry hot guy is all he knows how to play.

― grady (grady), Monday, 4 December 2006 07:14 (seventeen years ago) link

i love the guy for getting impaled by bamboo, but damn did he have some deer in the headlights moments

― jelky (jergins), Monday, 4 December 2006 07:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Apparently they are moving L O S T to 10 pm EST in 07 (possibly so as not to have to compete w/ American Idol for ratings). I can barely contain myself waiting for it to come on at 9.

― Dragons (per the previous FAQ answer) (nklshs), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

10 would make my life easier as i usually am out until 9:30 on wednesdays. which means i either tape it and sit there WAITING FOR IT TO END or watch the last half and then the first.

but why i really came here was to point out there's a new podcast. cuse/lindeloff swear many answers will be reveal'd in 2007. mmm-hm.

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Friday, 8 December 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

WILD SPECULATION:

http://www.fangasm.com/01television/lost/lost-to-return-early.php

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 21 December 2006 10:57 (seventeen years ago) link

In other news, BEEKAYVEE has now joined the writing team. THIS IS A GOOD THING.

― much_aldo_about_nothing (much_aldo_about_nothing), Thursday, 21 December 2006 11:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Who?

I kind of have prepped myself for the wait until Feb., and if they move it up 4 weeks, does that mean another 4 week hiatus midseason? Fuck that.

ABC I don't think are taking into account that there are a lot of LOST fans who aren't really watching ANYTHING on Wed nights now.

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Thursday, 21 December 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Comics writer Brian K Vaughan.

― much_aldo_about_nothing (much_aldo_about_nothing), Thursday, 21 December 2006 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah i have my gap groove on now, and there have to be gaps sometime unless they follow my advice and go to 52-week seasons.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

That's good advice, I hope they take it on board.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link

show has LOST it, i'm thinking. but hopefully now i can be pleasantly surprised when it comes back.

― sede vacante (blueski), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

wash your mouth out. the fuck it has.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

TROLL ON LOST THREAD BAN PLZ

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Lift up your eyes and look north, Stevem.

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I think SteveM is one of the OtherILX0rs sent to infiltrate us.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

it was a bit alarming how at the end of each of the new episodes i would be roaring "FOR FUCKS SAKE IS THAT IT??!" every time. 'moon on a stick' i guess.

― sede vacante (blueski), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

there are two main areas of frustration:

1) quantity of stuff happening

2) quantity of stuff NOT happening

― sede vacante (blueski), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

There should be some kinda retreat for LOST fans that are losing the faith. I am very saddened by SteveM's disappointment.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i was, in all honesty, a bit let down by the sixer, 4 & 5 in particular (iirc). but it was awkward having just the six and also i personally prefer it on ttv (have to get used to that). i am totally stoked about the next batch.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

if i could just wait and wait and then just watch the remaining 18 episodes together over one glorious week then i think i would.

― sede vacante (blueski), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

also i personally prefer it on ttv

with the 4 ad breaks and the 'sponsored by' bullshit? daaaamn

― sede vacante (blueski), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

But anyone that can manage such an awesome feat is obv. not a fan.

xpost

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 21 December 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

4 ad breaks? more like EIGHT amirite? it pads the show out to an hour, which i like. perhaps if i hook computer to tv i'd prefer it but i'm not really cut out for that kind of stuff.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

52 week seasons? Good God, that's like asking congress to work all year!
I would like it back in Jan., because...it's dark and snowy and bleak in Jan., so it's nice to go to an island.
Plus, I can stop reviving "The Wire" thread, and discuss, endlessly, a different show.
I'm for the Losties for my bleak midwinter, as opposed to Baltimore.
I'd REALLY like to go to Deadwood, on my HBO ticket, but that ain't gonna happen.
There should be more gambling on the LOST thread.

― aimurchie (aimurchie), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

i am just getting into 'the wire' now (s03 not out on dvd here till feb -- s04: fuck knows, so good to pace it). 'the wire' should have 52-week seasons too.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't seem to muster the energy for The Wire (because i KNOW it will be good and you have to see all of it). is it even on any UK cable channel?

― sede vacante (blueski), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

fuckin Homechoice. i want Evil Sky Plus back.

― sede vacante (blueski), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't seem to muster the energy for The Wire (because i KNOW it will be good and you have to see all of it).

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 December 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I have managed to avoid finding out so much as what the Wire is even ABOUT/who it STARS. All I know is that it is on HBO and that everyone I know loves it.

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:30 (seventeen years ago) link

yes L O S T, come back jan 10 plzzz before i go on vacation and miss weeks/months.

― jergins (jergins), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I think The Wire is like Homicide or something. No idea who's in it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 December 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

My GF and I drove by two seperate location-shootings-in-process in the past week!

AND we got to see the polar-bear cages live-and-in person. we resisted the urge to hop a fence and get frisky in one in some hot kate-sawyer role play action.

― grady (grady), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Grady, our man on the scene! That is cuet.

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

grady, what did the locations look like?

― jergins (jergins), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

VERY MINOR POSSIBLE SPOILERS:

one was obv a flaskback. total-carnage-everywhere-car-accident in front of a gas station inbetween a highway overpass and a mall. possibly spotted Emilie de Ravin.

the other was a little cove really near a place called blow hole. this is possibly the same place where desmond confronting inman was filmed. probably not.

end minor-possible spoilers.

a guy we hire from time to time has been doing audio work on the show lately. i'll be working with him on NYE. i'll try and remember to ask him if he's got any more goods.

― grady (grady), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

whooops..... that was suposed to have like twenty line breaks.... sorry.

― grady (grady), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

LOL flaskback, is it about Jack's dad?

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually if Emilie de Ravin was on set it might be (because that whole implied maybe Christian Shephard is also her daddy thing in s2).

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

lolz @ my funney typo.

― grady (grady), Thursday, 21 December 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/15359.html

― jergins (jergins), Friday, 22 December 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

just coming here to post that.

― grady (grady), Friday, 22 December 2006 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums/ep-caps/season2/2x09-kate/1/normal_kate-cap094.jpg

http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums/ep-caps/season2/2x09-kate/1/normal_kate-cap095.jpg

http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums/ep-caps/season2/2x09-kate/1/normal_kate-cap096.jpg

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Friday, 22 December 2006 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

The Lost drinking/general fun time game, with rules that change everytime I play it. Don't make fun of me.

Drink:

1. When there's a flashback, or it flashes back to the present
---1A - If you can predict that a flashback is coming just before it happens, you can give out 2 drinks. For example, if there is a whooshing noise and Hurley is just kind of staring off into space, that's a good time to yell out "Flashback!"

2. When there's strong tension between Jack and Locke.

3. When the Extras appear in a scene (obviously).

4. When Sawyer lays on his action movie star voice really thick.

5. When the Windows 98 screensaver-esque Lost logo pops up against the black background. Also, at this time you must look at the person next to you and whisper "Lost!"

6. When Hurley says Dude, or anything else that seems stereotypically Hurley.

7. When a main character dies, you must drink as much as you can stand, and mutter "oh shit...oh shit" to yourself a whole lot.

8. Whenever the polar bear or evil smoke appears.

There are more, which I'm sure you're DYING to read, but it's been a while.
*holds breath for new episodes*

― Zachary Scott (Zachary S), Sunday, 24 December 2006 02:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Good interview with Damon Lindelof...

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/television/lost/002870368.cfm

Events in the finale last year catastrophically screwed them all in a way that they don’t really appreciate yet.

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Thursday, 28 December 2006 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks. There's a bunch of interesting stuff in there. he does need to stop saying "über-goal" though.

― jergins (jergins), Thursday, 28 December 2006 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i swear to god i saw the dharma initiative logo with an ipod in the middle of it on CNN today. "the situation room," on the bank of monitors they have behind them. anyone else see it or know what the hell it was about?

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Friday, 29 December 2006 00:29 (seventeen years ago) link

after one of my exams a week or two back, a friend said "you wanna get high and watch this LOST dvd with me? i've never seen it." neither had i, so i watched with him AND I CANNOT STOP RENTING back episodes. i'm at season two, disc two. should i keep going, or will i just be disappointed? does the hispanic bitch get herself checked soon? i fucking hate her.

― the table is the table (trees), Friday, 29 December 2006 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Good interview with Damon Lindelof...

I think we tend to use the monster when it relates directly to informing character, as opposed to just an arbitrary plot device that can move the trees around and make scary noises.

haha, really? because it seems more like the latter these days. also, gotta love painting the death of eko as a sort of simpsons-writers-esque MESSAGE TO THE FANS.

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Friday, 29 December 2006 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link

they rock it all the way through season two

― jergins (jergins), Friday, 29 December 2006 00:52 (seventeen years ago) link

EKO DIES FUCK

― the table is the table (trees), Friday, 29 December 2006 04:11 (seventeen years ago) link

did you miss the rest of the thread?

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Friday, 29 December 2006 05:13 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

Revive! Lolz at Sawyer to Alex "well, we didn't see *that* one coming", ahahahah.

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I love realizing that not only was there new LOST LAST week, there will be new LOST THIS week too!

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonster), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

The crappy security guard was called aldo! We chuckled!

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Sawyer guy is going to be such a kickass Gambit.

― nklshs (nklshs), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

in an otherwise unwatchable movie, to be sure.

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonster), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

the price we pay

― secondhandnews (secondhandnews), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I love realizing that not only was there new LOST LAST week, there will be new LOST THIS week too!

you can say this for the next FIFTEEN WEEKS too.

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

OH FUCK YES

― the people's prince (jergins), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I just read that interview with DL upthread:

There have been sort of vague questions as to how much story we have or what the plan is, and I think that the only thing that I’ve ever said on the record is that if we were in a position to actually end the show on our own terms, that it would probably be at the end of four years. That would be the ultimate nexus point for the show. But unfortunately, it’s completely moot whether it’s four years or five years or seven years, because I don’t own the show and [co-creator and executive producer] J.J. [Abrams] doesn’t own the show and [executive producer] Carlton [Cuse] doesn’t own the show - Touchstone and ABC own the show. And as long as it’s a show that is popular and that people are watching, they’ll never let us end it, which is sad and depressing.

I never knew this was how things in TV work. I was actually really hoping for them to end it at season 4/5 because I can totally see myself losing interest after the 4th year or so, if there are too many things unanswered.

And at the rate they're going, it's gonna be really tough to deal with the timeline - Losties are still in 2004 and we're in 2007 already.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I kind of hope after 4 or 5 years they have a finale that, while maybe not the END of the show is so obviously "GUYS STOP WATCHING NOW WE ARE JUST DOING IT BECAUSE THEY MAKE US FROM THIS POINT ONWARD" it will practically be an ending.

― Brig. Chop Them Up (scarymonster), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Michelle Rodriguez is "On "Some Jane Fonda-Type Shit"

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

alcohol intake monitoring beacelet????

http://www.mollygood.com/media/michellejane4.jpg

― scott seward (121212), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

er, bracelet.

― scott seward (121212), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I want the series finale to resolve almost everything but leave them on-island, so they can save the getting-off-the-island for a BIG SCREEN MOVIE EVENT. Terry O'Quinn's bald-ass head, LARGER THAN LIEF.

― nklshs (nklshs), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

"Iï¿½m going to make giving back sexy and fuckable.ï¿½

daaaaaaaamn, she opening up a soup kitchen in her pants?

― scott seward (121212), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Damn baby, the way you donated them sweatpants makes me want to ride yo ass.

― Brig. Chop Them Up (scarymonster), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

hahahahahaha

"I’m going to make giving back sexy and fuckable."

Ana-Lucia ft Justin Timberlake

xpost

― nklshs (nklshs), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa, there's a secret message if you backwards messages">play the Room 23 scene backwards.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

haha so NOT a direct ripoff of Clockwork Orange then

― nklshs (nklshs), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

HOMAGE TO

― teh_kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 February 2007 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

awesome!

time manipulation theory is a GO.

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Monday, 12 February 2007 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Time flux is necessary addition to the show's mysteries probably because they want Malcolm David-Kelley to play Walt again in season 4 but also want it to make some kind of sense that he's now an adult-sized teenager (as opposed to 10 yrs old). Luckily it is also kind of interesting.

― nklshs (nklshs), Monday, 12 February 2007 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

So I looked up the domain registration for http://www.mittelosbioscience.org

And it's actually registered to Richard Alpert, and he gives a Portland, OR registration address, but a fake phone number. ARG maybe starting up again?

― Brig. Chop Them Up (scarymonster), Monday, 12 February 2007 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Rousseau has never mentioned what year it was when she crashed, I just realized. All we have there as far as defining time data is the sixteen years the message has been repeating - on the island.

xpost I read on thefuselage.com that that is supposedly a fan-site, but it sure is fucking fancy-looking to have been slapped together by LOST fans.

― nklshs (nklshs), Monday, 12 February 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

http://one.revver.com/watch/165062/flv/affiliate/62101

^^^^spooky video linked from fansite

― Brig. Chop Them Up (scarymonster), Monday, 12 February 2007 23:30 (seventeen years ago) link

heh. making a creepy, distorted video is fast becoming the cosplay of lost fans.

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 01:52 (seventeen years ago) link

who in the world has that much spare time?

― Brig. Chop Them Up (scarymonster), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 01:53 (seventeen years ago) link

apparantly next episode is Desmond Desmond Desmond, so any timeflux excitables (me!) will have a feast :D

― Slump Man (Slumpman), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 02:36 (seventeen years ago) link

OOH FEAST TIEM

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 09:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I still really want an other to use the line "nah...we were just fucking with you guys that time!". preferably Tom...."the lists?? you believed the lists!??"

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 10:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I love realizing that not only was there new LOST LAST week, there will be new LOST THIS week too!

you can say this for the next FIFTEEN WEEKS too.

Yeah, this is taking a lot of getting used to. Pinch me?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 10:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey on another subject, in season two, does anyone when Jack and Kate meet the others in the woods, while trying to get Michael back, whether Tom says "you stay on your half of the island" or "you stay on your side of the island"?

― the people's prince (jergins), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 11:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Side.
Two days.
I do love Tom. I love the way he scurried for Jack after showing his blood revulsion.
i got really annoyed at Evangeline's two acting skills - kicking ass and sobbing into a microphone (walkie talkie) while doing her sad darting eye thing.
Why did she have to fall down, just like she does every time they run through the jungle? Not her fault, but...it's such a trope at this point.
And as has been pointed out upthread (the one in heaven/space)hammering the head of what's his face until he is left twitching should not have been resolved as what's his face suddenly awakening and escaping the cage to kill them.He shoulda been dead! or really disabled!
i hate any and every dramatic scene that has a female protaginist fumbling with whatever important thing she is handling.
it is done to death. the fluttering hands just don't fucking work any more.
Another fucking trope! I am really embracing my profanity this morning!
Kate fumbling with the lock, the walkie talkie, etc. needs to stop.
Anywhoo, I ate some great pasta carbonara last night! And now my tummy hurts:(

― aimurchie (aimurchie), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/customavatars/avatar49617_8.gif

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Alison, maybe you should have fumbled your dinner fork more.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

If they don't start asking TechnoKarl questions like "WTF do the Others do/want ffs!?!?!" in the next few episodes, I will go mentalistic. Actually, because that would be so simple, I fully expect Karl to die as soon as he gets back to Lostie home base.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I was actually thinking he would die on the way back, and then Alex would hate them and not be their friend and not meet her birth mom and be emo with those big blue eyes of hers swoon.

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

My guess is that they make a big deal out of deprogramming him after all the others' happy sunshine videos he watched.

― Slump Man (Slumpman), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

In true LOST fashion he will probably survive, but his arrival to camp will be largely (if not entirely) ignored, no Sayid questioning, no Locke sweatlodge deprogramming, not even a "dude who're you?" from Hurley.

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

He is a tap of answers and information. He's so fucking doomed.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

otm.

least favorite part about show.

xpost

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

FWIW I actually like Karl and hope he isn't as underutilized as I expect him to be. Not just as a plot device, but as a character. In fact...

MY PLEA TO DAMORN LINTELORF: PLEASE KILL NIKKI AND PAULO AND MAKE ALEX AND KARL REGULAR ACTORS-NAMES-IN-CREDITS FLASHBACK HAVING CHARACTERS PLZ THX.

PS ALSO TOM.

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude, everybody knows that the execs are DAMIEN WANKMEOFF, GAYGAY ABRAHAMS and CARLTON CLUELESS.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

If "everybody" = me and Melton, obv.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

other than that, 100% agree.

actually, given Tom's "big friendly bear" demeanor of later episodes (as opposed to the growling Zeke persona), is there any chance that he (or any of the other regular Others) are brainwash victims themselves?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Tom is a THESPIAN, whereas we saw him as this growling scary kid-stealing guy come to life off the Gorton's fishstick box in the pre-Others Experience days, I think we're now supposed to get that he was just sort of hamming it up and playing a part (a part that involved kidnapping, raft-exploding, and bola-ing, but whatever).

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Which is why I want the pre-island Tom-in-a-high-school-production-of-My Fair Lady flashback.

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

No, make it Cats. Tom would make a wonderful Mr. Mistofelees.

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Or Tom as the Phantom! Lost needs an injection of ott Andrew Lloyd Webber cheese.

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, maybe not Tom...
Thing is, it's not very plausible that they would have built the Branewash facility after being on the island for X amount of time, on the off-chance that some goofs would fall out of the sky and rumble whatever the fuck it is that they're doing. Thus, if the BW facility was part of the original setup, surely they would've taken some weak minded fools to the island to experiment on, that are now fully-fledged, albeit slightly brainwashed Others?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

We need more Tom vs Sawyer zingplay, altho unlike Jack i guess Sawyer would still kill Tom given half a chance. i expect a situation will arise where Sawyer 'warms' to him more tho, as we have.

i am optimistic re Paolo and Nikki, in that either the writers will enable us to take great pleasure in seeing them be killed off by Island Momus or whoever OR they will actually become good characters somehow. i can't be bothered to actually dislike them.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Tuesday, 13 February 2007 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

And as has been pointed out upthread (the one in heaven/space)hammering the head of what's his face until he is left twitching should not have been resolved as what's his face suddenly awakening and escaping the cage to kill them.He shoulda been dead! or really disabled!

I think the conclusion was that the hammering wasn't that bad, it was the electric shock you get on the third press of that button that disabled him, and that wears off with no long-term effects fairly quickly.

― nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

you play too many video games, nicka.

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 04:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I cast thee out!

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 08:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh wait, this isn't ILG. Carry on.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 08:44 (seventeen years ago) link

who could have foreseen that ben would have woken up eh/

oh right: ME

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 10:13 (seventeen years ago) link

And Desmond.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 10:19 (seventeen years ago) link

getting sawyer and kate off the island was pure boilerplate, it really was. in the autumn sixer the flashbacks were rubbish and i liked juliet's, but they still haven't worked out how to deal with all the spare parts on the main island. they should have killed more of them by now. carl's room was roffles.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 10:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Carl's room was more than roffles, it was great. Please to brainwash me Others, it looks like fun :D

― jibe (jibe), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 10:29 (seventeen years ago) link

it was like the flat in 'nathan barley'.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 10:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Your search - Nathan Barley - did not match any documents in your brain.

Off to google then for me!

― jibe (jibe), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 10:47 (seventeen years ago) link

has anyone ascertained the date juliet arrived on the island. if it was three years and change from november 2004, could it have been...?

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 10:49 (seventeen years ago) link

oh okay it was 5th sept 01. it would be great if 'lost' did turn out to explain 9/11 in terms of an electromagnetic anomaly though.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 10:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I have seen it speculated that the date of the failsafing hatch meltdown might have been the same date on the LOST calender as the massive tsunami in 04.

― nklshs (nklshs), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

nah that was boxing day. they aren't at december yet i don't think

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

did turn out to explain 9/11 in terms of an electromagnetic anomaly though

that would suck. if it explains El Nino tho then fair dos.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Damon and Carlton said in their last podcast that they understand the hate for Paolo and Nikki but that pretty soon we'll be thankful for them. Whatever that means.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe they'll save sawyer's life and then go "WE HAVE TO GO NOW, OUR PLANET NEEDS US" and disappear.

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

only poxy fules are enslaved by time and space

― dmr (dmr), Wednesday, 14 February 2007 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I NEED A VERY SIMPLE ANSWER TO A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION: ARE THEY SHOWING LAST WEEK'S EPISODE RIGHT NOW????

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Thursday, 15 February 2007 03:04 (seventeen years ago) link

yes.

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Thursday, 15 February 2007 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

u r in mtn, right?

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Thursday, 15 February 2007 03:12 (seventeen years ago) link

yessir

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Thursday, 15 February 2007 03:14 (seventeen years ago) link

whooooooa!
Yeah, this is a bit of an enlightening episode.

― Zachary Scott (Zachary S), Thursday, 15 February 2007 03:27 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, wtf with the clockwork orange shit

(sorry, i'm a bit behind here people)

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Thursday, 15 February 2007 03:35 (seventeen years ago) link

THE BUS WAHT

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Thursday, 15 February 2007 03:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't fall for it Desmond! Noooooo!

― mh (mike h.), Thursday, 15 February 2007 03:44 (seventeen years ago) link

This is my favorite episode in as long as I can remember, partly because it has nothing to do with the main theme and partly because it has everything to do with the main theme!

― Johnny Fever (johnnyfever), Thursday, 15 February 2007 03:50 (seventeen years ago) link

wait, what, you guys are watching some different shit, shut up!

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Thursday, 15 February 2007 03:52 (seventeen years ago) link

O HLY SHT

― Johnny Fever (johnnyfever), Thursday, 15 February 2007 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link

this is the US lost thread jerks

― this is cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 15 February 2007 04:09 (seventeen years ago) link

^^^^^^ listen to this guy

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Thursday, 15 February 2007 04:17 (seventeen years ago) link

wait, can someone tell me a few things: what the fuck was tonight's episode about? yes, desmond, but... i am truly confused, maybe because i missed the first 15 minutes b/c of 'the departed' watching?

― the table is the table (trees), Thursday, 15 February 2007 04:27 (seventeen years ago) link

From a mile away, he foresees that Claire is about to drown and runs and saves her. Hurley says "That dude can see the future." Charlie's deeply suspicious of this guy and decides to get him drunk to see what he's all about. I think that's what happened at the beginning. Does that help at all?

― sundarsubramanian (SundarS), Thursday, 15 February 2007 04:35 (seventeen years ago) link

okay. yes, thank you. those are some BAD cuts in that episode.

next week looks good though.

as a matter of interest (i missed some of the 2nd season)...do they ever find walt?

― the table is the table (trees), Thursday, 15 February 2007 04:38 (seventeen years ago) link

You're going to need to rent some DVDs.

― Zachary Scott (Zachary S), Thursday, 15 February 2007 04:41 (seventeen years ago) link

"And it's actually registered to Richard Alpert"

hey i didn't catch that before. a tip of the hat to baba ram dass!

anyway, yay, charlie's gonna die!!!

― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 15 February 2007 04:50 (seventeen years ago) link

FUCK, SHIT, WHY AM I READIN THIS SHIT I THOUGHT WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Thursday, 15 February 2007 04:52 (seventeen years ago) link

oops, sorry, but really, we're ALL gonna die, you know?

i missed cool people island. i wasn't all that thrilled to be on loser island again. i'm beginning to think that i only really care about what happens to sawyer and kate.

― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 15 February 2007 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link

wait, next week is the tattoo episode? aw man.

i also missed cool people island. fuck charlie in the face.

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Thursday, 15 February 2007 05:00 (seventeen years ago) link

But he's going to die! Don't kick a brutha when he's down like that.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 15 February 2007 05:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Why would Desmond try so hard to keep Charlie from dying? Charlie can't really be all that important, can he? I mean... think of all the other people Desmond could've saved!

― Johnny Fever (johnnyfever), Thursday, 15 February 2007 05:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Am I spelling "McCutcheon whisky" right? I am having no luck with internets.

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 15 February 2007 05:33 (seventeen years ago) link

haha LOSER ISLAND

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 15 February 2007 05:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh wait...dur hur ADMIRAL MCCUTCHEON.

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 15 February 2007 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link

No that doesn't help much either, just a tv character...OR IS IT!?!?

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 15 February 2007 05:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i wouldnt let you drink my whiskey

― this is cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 15 February 2007 06:06 (seventeen years ago) link

that bar is HNL's best place to go for godawful live music seven days a week. charlie on the street corner is preferable.

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Thursday, 15 February 2007 08:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Richard Alpert

!!!!!!!!!

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Thursday, 15 February 2007 08:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Why would Desmond try so hard to keep Charlie from dying?

UK looooove?

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Thursday, 15 February 2007 08:50 (seventeen years ago) link

'Lost' loses footage in airport blunder

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Thursday, 15 February 2007 09:29 (seventeen years ago) link

anyway, yay, charlie's gonna die!!!

I was so happy at the end of this episode.

That old lady was totally a timelord, amirite? I kept expecting to see a police call box somewhere in the backround when she was talking to Desmond.

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

This was my favorite episode in a long time. I couldn't stomach another week of Jack, Sawyer, and Kate. Loser Island is the best! But more importantly, they got back to the weirdness. The more they explain about Dharma/Hanzo/Others, the less I care. I really don't understand people who need to know what's going on. When the "Next week on Lost" said they'd be answering some of the island's biggest questions, I thought, "Oh man, this is going to suck."

But I also like Charlie, so I guess I'm in the minority in more than one way.

― lindseykai (lindseykai), Thursday, 15 February 2007 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

The more I think about this episode the more it breaks my heart - very well planned V-Day ep.

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, next week's preview totally excited me! maybe there are two kinds of lost fans? supernatural dreamscape loser island fans and nuts & bolts cage sex cool island fans?

― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i vote 4 loser island

― this is cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I like it all. But they're making the show so complicated there's no access point for a new viewer. Maybe they're doing it on purpose to try to get ABC to sign off on four seasons and out. Would the producers sabotage their own ratings?

― The PEW Research Center for Panty-Twisting (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, i'm being a little silly. i don't hate everyone on loser island. i just felt a little deflated by desmond dreamland after action and intrigue. i just didn't care that much. nice to see penny again.

― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

OTM Scott. Without the mystery and intrigue, this show means nothing to me. (And were they implying that Jack's tats are one of the ISLAND'S! BIGGEST! SECRETS!?)

I have to admit that Charlie is annoying when he get's all overprotective about Claire and the baby. But in that case, the clear solution is to kill off Claire and the baby. Charlie needs to stick around so I can giggle about Britpop never-weres and hobbits.

― lindseykai (lindseykai), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

BTW guys Charlie singing "Wonderwall" was gay, except when you realize the first line Des heard him sing was "maybe you're gonna be the one that saves me".

Drunk Hurley's "DUDE!" was his best utterance of the word since ever.

xpost

Would the producers sabotage their own ratings?

Yes.

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

the clear solution is to kill off Claire and the baby.

OTM OTM OTM

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

how about just kill charlie and claire? the baby doesn't bother me that much.

― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

so after everything we saw last night, where do you think libby fits in with the boat?

― this is cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Season 4

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude loser island is soooo much better.

I definitely think the creators' were right when they said this episode would make or break LOST for you--the whole "ZOMG FATE" and more "ISLAND ARE MAGICALS" implications could definitely turn a lot of people off. I LUFFED IT THOUGH.

― METAL ROBOTIC HEAD FACE (scarymonster), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I really liked it too, but felt this weird frustration when it was over, like, "um, was that really L O S T?".

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

My favorite moment of the whole thing was probably the microwave beep.

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked it. Flashbacks to events that never really happened are cool with me. Sad that Claire won't die although Charlie getting it is a small consolation.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Totally. I was all sorts of impressed that a simple generic beep on a TEEVEE SHOW could freak me the hell out the second I heard it.

What if L O S T is, in fact, a Dharma initiative psych experiment itself?

― en i see kay (EstrangedNative), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually I really felt like it was closer to first season LOST than any episode since the, uh, first season. xxxpost

My theory is that Desmond's mind is going between two timelines--the one that started after the failsafe was hit started in the past, but actually moves in jumps and starts, so it's now a little bit into the future. Poor Desmond. :(

― METAL ROBOTIC HEAD FACE (scarymonster), Thursday, 15 February 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

i feel like desmond was sent back along his own timeline, which is unchangeable, as is his future, and the island's

― this is cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 15 February 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

but simply being sent back in time doesn't really explain knowing the future.

FAAAATEEEE.

― METAL ROBOTIC HEAD FACE (scarymonster), Thursday, 15 February 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

his timeline is no longer linear

― this is cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 15 February 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

therefore he keeps getting flashbacks to different points in time, whether they be past or future

― this is cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 15 February 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I can buy that!

But he definitely isn't PHYSICALLY time-traveling, so the issue of the number of timelines is kind of moot anyway, eh?

― METAL ROBOTIC HEAD FACE (scarymonster), Thursday, 15 February 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

he is not physically time-travelling, but his memory has somehow been freed some the constraints of linear time

― this is cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 15 February 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

so there are two kinds of lost fans then. stoners who talk philosophy when they are stoned and stoners who just stare blankly at the t.v. when they are stoned? MORE FISH TREATS PLEASE.

― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 15 February 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoa this episode wtf?

Fuck Claire not dying. I'd rather her than Charlie (HIERONYMUS PACE!), who at least occasionally gets some good zings. Also, hobbitses.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Thursday, 15 February 2007 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I still don't get the Claire-hate. She's a cutie! Is there something loathsome in her diction that my American tin-ear can't pick up?

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Thursday, 15 February 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's the accent.

― METAL ROBOTIC HEAD FACE (scarymonster), Thursday, 15 February 2007 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Guys, Charlie's not dying. No way. Desmond CAN change fate, or else they wouldn't have played that damned Mamas and the Papas song TWICE.

And Beth OTM - you can ask my roommate, I really did say to him (during scene when she thanked Desmond for saving her) "jesus I forgot how cute Claire is!".

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 15 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

where do you think libby fits in with the boat?

she gives/sells it to him right? I guess the only question is who sent her to keep Desmond on the correct fate-path. Maybe Libby was some kind of Dharma manipulator, doing their dirty work in the "real world" -- nudging Desmond in the right direction, keeping an eye on Hurley in the psych ward ....

Desmond CAN change fate, or else they wouldn't have played that damned Mamas and the Papas song TWICE.

but he didn't change fate, the universe "course corrected" until he got to the cricket bat

― dmr (dmr), Thursday, 15 February 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

another more literal course correction was that the island wouldn't let him leave on his boat, he sailed around in circles

― dmr (dmr), Thursday, 15 February 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

re: claire

Not the accent so much ("MOY BOY-BEEE!") these days. But really, besides giving birth to Aaron, she's probably the most pointless main character and really should be demoted to Rose/Bernard status. But I also think it's a Claire and Charlie thing - on their own, they're ok, but together, blegh.

By the way, if you google Charlie Hieronymus Pace, the first result gets you an Italian biography of Hieronymus Bosch, translated by one Claire Pace.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Thursday, 15 February 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

one thing is still bugging me about last week's episode and the Tom commment people were talking about -- "ever since the sky turned purple" their communications are down, or they can't get off the island anymore, or something

he was implying that if not for that event they would have sent Ben to a real-world clinic for surgery

but that doesn't really jibe with Ben saying they had targeted Jack bc of his surgical skillz .... they already had Jack in a hood when the sky turned purple

― dmr (dmr), Thursday, 15 February 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

My guess is that island-born Ben would rather not leave for medical assistance. So they sought out Jack's help, but were keeping the off-island option as a last resort (like if Dr. Douchebag chose not to cooperate). But then... PURPLE SKY!

― lindseykai (lindseykai), Thursday, 15 February 2007 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i feel like desmond was sent back along his own timeline, which is unchangeable

just a thought but was Charlie in the flashback really Charlie? if so it was a Charlie who never got famous (or else he would have been all YEAH YOU KNOW ME FROM DRIVESHAFT, BROTHA)

so some aspects of the past maybe are changeable?

although I think I agree that he didn't physically time-travel

― dmr (dmr), Thursday, 15 February 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

he is not physically time-travelling, but his memory has somehow been freed some the constraints of linear time

except ehn he gets concussions, maybe?

xpost: i think it was before driveshaft got popular.

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Thursday, 15 February 2007 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000GM4TTK.01-A1FHV3WBFRTHQ1._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_V60231943_.jpg

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Thursday, 15 February 2007 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost: i think it was before driveshaft got popular.

yeah I guess that's right ... I forgot how the old woman said desmond's boat race was still "a few short years" away

― dmr (dmr), Thursday, 15 February 2007 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

k i just watched episode 8. i haven't read the thread yet because i just wanted to immediately post here to say HOLY FUCKING SHIT. SRSLY.

back later.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 February 2007 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

k my girlfriend just ridiculed my pensive "post-LOST thinking expression" after i spent a couple of minutes rubbing my temples. i feel she is somewhat underestimating my obsession.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 February 2007 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm slow here,

was jewelry-store-mistress-of-time in "next week on lost"?

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Thursday, 15 February 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

do people in scotland really say "brotha" all the time? I like Desmond but it seems kinda fakey.

― METAL ROBOTIC HEAD FACE (scarymonster), Thursday, 15 February 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Yeah, I thought I saw her in there, too.

― danno martinez (danno martinez), Thursday, 15 February 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

do people in scotland really say "brotha" all the time? I like Desmond but it seems kinda fakey.

I think it's true, I've read the glasgow thread.

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Thursday, 15 February 2007 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I say "Brotha" all the time. But only when impersonating Desmond. Which is all the time. Conversations in our house = "do you want to watch L O S T now, brotha" "yes, brotha", etc.

(I clicked on this thread by accident as I haven't watched this week's yet, but I caught that while scrolling down)

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 15 February 2007 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

that's a risky click

― this is cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 15 February 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

This episode totally ruled. I loved that so much of it was devoted to the "flashback."

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 February 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Has the Desmond Hume - John Locke -philosopher point been made? Not that it means anything.To me.
I didn't love this episode - still like the thread(s) better!
I found it weird that Desmond wouldn't react more when red shoe guy got smushed RIGHT NEXT TO HIM!
That suspension of disbelief was too much for me.

― aimurchie (aimurchie), Thursday, 15 February 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

was jewelry-store-mistress-of-time in "next week on lost"?

I thought that too, but jeweler time cop lady actress (Fionula Flanagen) isn't on next week's guest star roster (but Alex, Karl, and Tom are).

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 15 February 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Has the Desmond Hume - John Locke -philosopher point been made?

somebody mentioned it at some point I'm sure

there was also a Burke last week

not sure it means much beyond "zomg, questions of free will and causation"

― dmr (dmr), Thursday, 15 February 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Drunk Hurley's "DUDE!" was his best utterance of the word since ever.

totally! possibly best uttered word of the past several episodes

so there are two kinds of lost fans then. stoners who talk philosophy when they are stoned and stoners who just stare blankly at the t.v. when they are stoned?

hand raised for former. totally into desmond's non-linear time access, plus some multi-dimensional stuff too

re: claire - that really was the first time in a long time she's looked cute and not been whiney

also, desmond, hottt

― impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 15 February 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

(Fionula Flanagen) isn't on next week's guest star roster (but Alex, Karl, and Tom are).

nicka, you are the wind beneath my wings.

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Thursday, 15 February 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I love how Dezzy's been out of the hatch for, what, 2 weeks?, and he's already the tannest one of them all.

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 15 February 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

young deezy

― dmr (dmr), Thursday, 15 February 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't find this episode that great. Then again lately all the shows have kind of disppointed me :(. Anyway, did anyone notice the dharma logo on dead guy's red shoes? Or was I just hallucinating? I'm almost certain it was there, but what the fuck is it doing there?

― jibe (jibe), Thursday, 15 February 2007 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh I didn't see that! I was so stoked for having called yet another Wizard of Oz ref (right before he got crushed) I must've missed it.

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 15 February 2007 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I could put a screengrab up if I knew how. I've been looking at the guy's shoes for a minute or so and I still can't make up my mind as to whether there is a dharma logo or not :( Also, I'm quite sure that L O S T is the only tv show where I've rewinded and played the show in slow motion so to as to see a small detail and I feel like an idjut for doing so

― jibe (jibe), Thursday, 15 February 2007 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

big round of applause to the writers for such an accurate portrayal of London in an American Tv show FINALLY...

red phone box check
policeman in classic 'tit' helmet check
classic cars parked on every street check
pub landlord in shirt and tie check
combo of distant london landmarks suddenly close together (houses of pariament and er, greenwich foot tunnel?) check
angry man with CRICKET bat check

and yeah buskers always attract a crowd of 20 people esp. when it's 'wonderwall'. and the instant rain thing was mega lame.

fuckng loved it tho (altho it really wasn't that revelatory)

bring on charlie death obv. (except he won't die and this will persuade des to restore faith in the future, linda bellingham style)

― resumo impetus (blueski), Friday, 16 February 2007 01:14 (seventeen years ago) link

filmed in downtown Honolulu, too! (with obvious bluescreen assistance)

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Friday, 16 February 2007 01:16 (seventeen years ago) link

they just do it to wind us up on purpose.

nice of them to get Dave Gahan in for the backdrop-photo scene tho

pretty confused about what is meant to really have happened to him during his flashback vs what he imagined. surely that old woman can't have been real.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Friday, 16 February 2007 01:18 (seventeen years ago) link

also, probably not significant, but the backdrop for the Dez/Penny photo is HNL.

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Friday, 16 February 2007 01:19 (seventeen years ago) link

i just realized blueski was being sarcastic : (

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Friday, 16 February 2007 01:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I love how Alan Fucking Dale makes such a big deal about the whisky, but then it turns out you can go drink it in in any old random pub.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Friday, 16 February 2007 01:20 (seventeen years ago) link

...or beach.

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Friday, 16 February 2007 01:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Hah but that's OBV the point!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 February 2007 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link

nice of them to get Dave Gahan in for the backdrop-photo scene tho

OH ROFFLES

― METAL ROBOTIC HEAD FACE (scarymonster), Friday, 16 February 2007 01:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow... this was teh shit! Desmond is a winner! Best episode since whatever episode from season 1, no doubt. Stepping off the linear timeline was the best thing they could do. Truly warped, truly wonderful.

― Le Bateau Ivre (gerard), Friday, 16 February 2007 02:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I also thought it was a great episode. I really like Charlie and I totally expect that something's going to stand in the way of his death, leading to some sort of breakthrough for Desmond.

(That was brilliant about "Wonderwall," Nick.)

― sundarsubramanian (SundarS), Friday, 16 February 2007 03:05 (seventeen years ago) link

does anyone else do a double take when they see posters for this film:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/gradygillan/host.jpg

?????????????

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Friday, 16 February 2007 03:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I like how Claire took our advice and cut her bangs herself on the island.

― Carey (Carey), Friday, 16 February 2007 06:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Dharma shark tried to bite her face off when she was face-down underwater, but was still weak from being shot by Sawyer in S2, so missed by an inch or so, and merely chomped her a new fringe. Everything happens for a reason!

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 February 2007 08:54 (seventeen years ago) link

My mind is still totally blown by this ep.
I think the writers got tired of people saying "sto answering questions with more questions!" and decided to instead answer some questions with a huge WTF (which, I admit, is actually a question, but fuck it).

― teh_kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 February 2007 08:55 (seventeen years ago) link

why did they have to make up 'Graybridge' football (footage looked like a Spanish game) team when it's OK for them to talk about the Red Sox? DELIBERATE WIND-UP

― resumo impetus (blueski), Friday, 16 February 2007 10:31 (seventeen years ago) link

also "lobsters on the pier" lol

they should've had Desmond tip the barman 10%

shame we couldn't see Eko in London

― resumo impetus (blueski), Friday, 16 February 2007 10:33 (seventeen years ago) link

the whole chestnuts scene with Mrs Hawking was so Matrix Oracle

― resumo impetus (blueski), Friday, 16 February 2007 10:36 (seventeen years ago) link

you know, you're right. and now i feel a little sick.

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Friday, 16 February 2007 10:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I was surprised that Judi Dench Jr. said that pushing the button was Desmond's big accomplishment in life, when turning the key seems to me equal or more important.

― the people's prince (jergins), Friday, 16 February 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

lol @ "judi dench jr."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 February 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

anybody know why 'next week on lost' is never included in the torrents?

― the people's prince (jergins), Friday, 16 February 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

It is for the good of us torrenting folx. Jokes apart, I think you can get them in some torrents, dunno which oens

― jibe (jibe), Friday, 16 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

You can always find the "next week on LOST" bits on youtube.

― nklshs (nklshs), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Shit I bet if you looked hard enough you could find Judi Dench Jr Pickett Make-Outs on youtube.

― nklshs (nklshs), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm counting on you, nicka.

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

We all are. While on your hunt, please find the cut Tom-on-Benry scenes please.

― jibe (jibe), Friday, 16 February 2007 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

next episode preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sarZ-buukoQ

― a.b. (abanana), Friday, 16 February 2007 20:03 (seventeen years ago) link

ha just saw Goodwin in Ugly Betty

― resumo impetus (blueski), Friday, 16 February 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

rly not looking like a dharma logo on the red trainers there. sad to say i went back and checked. also the flash frames right after the key turn were unenlightening too.

BAH.

― BounceBounceBounce R TINY KITN (bounce), Friday, 16 February 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

It isn't just, like, a Converse logo, is it?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 February 2007 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/ is good if yr into that sort of thing

― BounceBounceBounceBounceBounceBounceBounce (bounce), Friday, 16 February 2007 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to admit that Charlie is annoying when he get's all overprotective about Claire and the baby.

He's an utter dick! An addict deliberately getting an alcoholic drunk? I think he's a great character.

I also went back and checked the logo on the runners. Not Dharma.

Lolz@ fake London, with its lobsters on the pier, and its posters for the Scots Brigade calling all and sundry to fight with HONOR (and American guns).

STILL NOT ENOUGH SAYID, FUCKOS!

Maybe have been drinking.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 16 February 2007 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

London has no lobsters?

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 16 February 2007 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

but jeweler time cop lady actress (Fionula Flanagen)

She was the creepy old maid from... wait for it... THE OTHERS!

― onimo (nu_onimo), Saturday, 17 February 2007 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, really, london really doesn't have lobsters? me and beth could send you some.

― scott seward (121212), Saturday, 17 February 2007 00:39 (seventeen years ago) link

we have lobsters
and the Thames has a few piers
but you can't buy LOBSTERS ON THE PIER

― resumo impetus (blueski), Saturday, 17 February 2007 00:49 (seventeen years ago) link

That's too bad.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I watched it when I was quite drunk and got pretty emotional about the whole thing. Especially when Penny was trying to convince him he was worth something. Really, really great episode.

Couple of stupid cock-ups on the British front, though. Wouldn't Desmond actor have said "Eerr... we wouldn't have posters like that and we certainly wouldn't spell 'Honour' that way" to the props people?? Oh well.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i sort of thought that the over-the-topness of desmond's flashback scenes were purposful, indicative of a dream or an in his head experience, rather than a literal, in his body experience.

didn't the whole thing have a dreamy, unreal feel to it?

― lxy (lxy), Saturday, 17 February 2007 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, if it was real no one would have given Charlie money for singing Wonderwall.

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Saturday, 17 February 2007 03:15 (seventeen years ago) link

the extras in the busking scene were awful..."bopping"

this episode was quite ridiculous but good I guess, tho the scene with the old woman was a little too crazy maybe. also why did getting hit with the bat send him back to the island?

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 17 February 2007 04:52 (seventeen years ago) link

is it possible he died in both instances? when he turned the key and when he got the bat to the head?

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 17 February 2007 04:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I was thinking that whatever Desmond went through was The Island trying to tell him something ala what Locke went through - except that Boone is now Judi Dench Jr.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Saturday, 17 February 2007 09:00 (seventeen years ago) link

bah beaten to the lobsters on pier thing.

― BounceBounceBounceBounceBounceBounceBounce (bounce), Saturday, 17 February 2007 09:26 (seventeen years ago) link

brittishers be getting worked up over lobsters on the pier!

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Saturday, 17 February 2007 09:32 (seventeen years ago) link

also, FINAL DESTINATION ppl

― BounceBounceBounceBounceBounceBounceBounce (bounce), Saturday, 17 February 2007 09:41 (seventeen years ago) link

If Final Destination was it, then they're ALL meant to die when flight 815 went down but then the Island became the intervening event, and now they're going to be picked off one by one according to where they were sitting. 0.o

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Saturday, 17 February 2007 09:58 (seventeen years ago) link

spooky ring shop lady said, if desmond doesn't, well whatever, "we're all dead". or summink

― BounceBounceBounceBounceBounceBounceBounce (bounce), Saturday, 17 February 2007 10:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Wouldn't Desmond actor have said "Eerr... we wouldn't have posters like that and we certainly wouldn't spell 'Honour' that way" to the props people??

Nobody ever listens to me. Sigh.

I agree though, that the not-quite-rightness of the London scenes made for a lovely kind of fever dream. Poor Desmond. I really like him, and he is an excellent foil for Charlie, really.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 17 February 2007 11:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i tht dench jr was when 'lost' jumped the shark tbqf

this ep really wasn't that revealing!

they made a lot of the ring going in the river. maybe hobbit boy will go after it/it'll turn up on the beach. also the jom robinson/deezy thing is a bit too much like the jin/sun thing, no?

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Sunday, 18 February 2007 12:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Well I guess they were running out of new ways to portray fathers in a bad light.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 18 February 2007 12:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I started watching Heroes, and that seems to be full of bad or absent dads too. And then there's the new series of 24 ...

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 18 February 2007 13:01 (seventeen years ago) link

nb i am up for 'lobsters on the pier' fap

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Sunday, 18 February 2007 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought the scenes in the pub were some of the strangest. 16floz glasses, napkins instead of beermats, being given a napkin by the barman as he poured your drink, not paying until you're leaving - THIS IS NOT A BRITISH PUB.

― I am not a crappy security guard on L O S T (much_aldo_about_nothing), Sunday, 18 February 2007 13:15 (seventeen years ago) link

oh also no-one mentioned this because by now it's just kind of standard lost bidniz: OMG POLAR BEAR PAINTINGS IN JIM ROBINSON's OFFICE!!1!!!!

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Sunday, 18 February 2007 13:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm surprised that this hasn't come up. From the "brainwashing" scene from 2 weeks ago. Played backward , this scene has a voice clearly saying "Only fools are enslaved by time and space."

― Metrosexual Healing (crunkleJ), Sunday, 18 February 2007 13:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i brought it up and it crashed ILX and now we're stuck here, on this island/sandbox.

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Sunday, 18 February 2007 14:05 (seventeen years ago) link

only poxy fules are enslaved by time and space

-- dmr (dmr334...), February 14th, 2007. (dmr) (later)

― this is cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 18 February 2007 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

OMG POLAR BEAR PAINTINGS IN JIM ROBINSON's OFFICE!!1!!!!

watch that scene again. as soon as Des looks away from the painting, it is GONE. unsure whether this intentional or just a horizontal flip of the film for some reason, but it disappears as soon as it cuts to the next shot.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Sunday, 18 February 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

people be trippin' on those paintings over at the fuselage because they look like the painting claire's boyfriend made, years later

― more humid 4 u (jergins), Sunday, 18 February 2007 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

napkins instead of beermats

what is a beermat?

Okay, a coaster. I wikied it.

Some beermats are collectible items. Tegestology is a latin term defined as the practice of collecting beermats or coasters, with practitioners known as tegestologists Collecting beermats is an especially popular hobby in Germany. There is an international collector's association called IBV in Germany since 1958. The British Beermat Collectors Society was founded shortly afterwards in 1960 and currently has around 300 members spread around the world. Like the IBV, it organizes regular meetings for collectors and also publishes a monthly newsletter. Other notable clubs associated with tegestology include the South Australian Coaster Collectors Club and New South Wales Coaster Collectors Club. There are many subcategories of tegestologists, including those who are solely interested in porcelain or other specific kinds of beermats.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Sunday, 18 February 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

The London bits were much more convincing than the portrayal of Brixton in one of Charlie's flashbacks, which was hilariously bad.

I think Charlie is going to die, but we'll spend the whole season waiting for it to happen.

Also, am I the only one who finds Claire's story really interesting? There's still that whole thing about the baby being special - and I'm assuming the psychic dude in the first series was experiencing the same phenomenon as Desmond?

Hurley appears to have got over his girlfriend dying like way quickly. Isn't it about three or four days?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 18 February 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone else find the whole "Mr. Eko is dead, the island killed him" really unsatisfying and annoying since it was never alluded to again in this episode?

― Metrosexual Healing (crunkleJ), Sunday, 18 February 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

The London bits were much more convincing than the portrayal of Brixton in one of Charlie's flashbacks, which was hilariously bad.

surely just equally bad.

perhaps Charlie will accept his fate and go on a kamikaze mission to rescue Jack/some other herculean task to benefit everyone else.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Sunday, 18 February 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

claire's *story* is really interesting but i don't think it's come up since the first series!

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 19 February 2007 00:20 (seventeen years ago) link

she's jack's sister you buttheads

― this is cutty (mcutt), Monday, 19 February 2007 00:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I like her new fringe.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 19 February 2007 01:04 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, she looks really great in this last episode...

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 19 February 2007 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link

perhaps Charlie will accept his fate and go on a kamikaze mission to rescue Jack/some other herculean task to benefit everyone else.

That would be pretty great. Though I suppose it would take some more convincin by way of near-misses that Desmond saves him from. And then maybe the mission would serve a redemptive function and he would survive. Though he already very flagrantly cheated death one time (the hanging episode).

― Metrosexual Healing (crunkleJ), Monday, 19 February 2007 05:55 (seventeen years ago) link

good point, he's already been dead (they never touched on whether he had any kind of NDE) once.

things that have not yet been mentioned/people who have not yet appeared this season:
- the two kids (and why they were out in the jungle with 'Others' bare-feet)
- rose and bernard
- rousseau
- michael and walt

― resumo impetus (blueski), Monday, 19 February 2007 10:27 (seventeen years ago) link

also am i bein insane but is alex really the daughter of benryman and rousseau?

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 19 February 2007 10:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think so/think that would be stupid
but can't rule anything out

― resumo impetus (blueski), Monday, 19 February 2007 10:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I think she's DEFINITELY Rousseau's daughter but don't know whether Benry is her real dad or just her adoptive dad.

xpost

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Monday, 19 February 2007 10:36 (seventeen years ago) link

oh now i remember what i was going to say last week: rousseau *captured* ben. so either: no they've never met or: he raised alex 'as a father or: it was an inside job, rousseau helped benry get inside the losties' camp.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 19 February 2007 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link

i need to watch the episode where the phoney psychic comes clean again.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Monday, 19 February 2007 10:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone else find the whole "Mr. Eko is dead, the island killed him" really unsatisfying and annoying since it was never alluded to again in this episode?

Yeah I was thinking about that too. I think focusing heavily on the flashback/dream/whatever took away a lot from what's going on on the Island at that moment. I mean, we really need to know what happens with Locke and looking north and I suspect by the time THAT episode rolls around, we've already forgotten why we should care.

I was just reading someone's complaint that at least part of why LOST is losing steam now is because there's too many personal subplots, whereas in the first season, everything that happened on the Island almost always involved the entire ensemble cast. It's really hard to follow what's going on with one group (Losties) when there's something else happening with another group (Kate/Sawyer) and yet another happening at the same time (Jack).

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Monday, 19 February 2007 10:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i think the rigidity of the format (ie the one character, one flashback) thing makes it really difficult for them to handle simultaneous action, which is kind of annoying. i suppose the last episode only sovered a few hours of island time, but those hours were probably covered on the prison island in episode six. i think they either need to kill a bunch of people or figure out how not to ignore them so much of the time.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 19 February 2007 10:52 (seventeen years ago) link

sounds like the ratings are slumping enough for them to probably try and wrap it up either this series or next woot

― resumo impetus (blueski), Monday, 19 February 2007 11:00 (seventeen years ago) link

perhaps Charlie is 'next' because as with Ana-Lucia and Eko he has killed an Other (as have Sun, Sawyer and now Juliet - possible clues as to who will cop it further on in the series)

― resumo impetus (blueski), Monday, 19 February 2007 11:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i doubt charlie will die really. it would be a bit straightforward.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 19 February 2007 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link

perhaps the spirit of rock n' roll will perish within him.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Monday, 19 February 2007 11:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I sort of wish they'd mix up the Others Island stuff with the beach/ensemble scenes in each episode a bit more. Either that or have Locke, Sayid and Jin go in there and kick arse and get Jack back asap.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 19 February 2007 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link

unfortunately Island Momus now has a name (SPOILERS DUH)

― resumo impetus (blueski), Monday, 19 February 2007 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link

it's a bit like in 'final destination' where all the characters are named things like 'alfred hitchcock'.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 19 February 2007 11:14 (seventeen years ago) link

i am so psyched for Flame exploration

― resumo impetus (blueski), Monday, 19 February 2007 12:20 (seventeen years ago) link

been thinking over s03 and why i'm not quite feeling it enough yet and it comes down to: MORE SAYID PLZ, i think.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 19 February 2007 12:25 (seventeen years ago) link

wash your mouth out. the fuck it has.

-- temporary enrique (miltonpinsk...), December 21st, 2006 2:46 PM.

but my frustration with the show was largely because i knew there'd be a big gap after the first 6. now it promises to be every week until the end i'm pretty happy with things.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Monday, 19 February 2007 12:55 (seventeen years ago) link

hmm. i was off my medication.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 19 February 2007 12:57 (seventeen years ago) link

that or: i kind of knew the six wouldn't work, even though there were some great bits, but these last two haven't done it for me either. maybe they should have made the six *entirely* about jack kate and sawyer on the other island and not bodged the other stuff. thus ep 7 could have started with more of a bang. getting them *off* the island is/was a big chore.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 19 February 2007 13:00 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah like what they did with the tailies. but that would have risked alienating the section of the fanbase who aren't Jack/Kate/Sawyer fans.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Monday, 19 February 2007 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Ben can't be Rousseau's husband, because he has been on the island his whole life, whereas Rousseau & fam & crew crashed there 16 years ago (I feel like I should specify "16 island years".

― nklshs (nklshs), Monday, 19 February 2007 13:32 (seventeen years ago) link

only if you believe ben and rousseau! also he could have got rousseau preggers even if they are both telling the truth there. or juliet's magic drug maybe created her...

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 19 February 2007 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link

danielle was already pregnant with alex when she got shipwrecked right?

― resumo impetus (blueski), Monday, 19 February 2007 13:40 (seventeen years ago) link

SO SHE SAYS.

but yes.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 19 February 2007 13:40 (seventeen years ago) link

err juliet's magic drug wasn't created in 1988.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Monday, 19 February 2007 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link

only poxy fules are enslaved by time and space.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 19 February 2007 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link

why lost is lost:

How to Fix It

For characters: Kill Jack. Kill Kate. Kill Nicki and Paolo (or whatever) and never, ever, ever make such a grade school attempt to introduce new characters again. Make Charlie interesting again instead of the whiny, jealous infant he became. Don't screw up Desmond. Cripple Locke and bring back his mystic bent. Let Sayid loose. More Sun & Jin. Make Sawyer say something besides "offensive attention-getter, unimaginative nickname. Sarcastic comment and/or question." Oh, and maybe explain where Danielle is after all this time.

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Monday, 19 February 2007 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Let Sayid loose.

Most truest of all.

― Bellicose Veins (Rock Hardy), Monday, 19 February 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Charlie was never interesting.

Benry flashback is urgent and key (either tie-in with Rousseau/Alex or do separate ones for them also).

― resumo impetus (blueski), Monday, 19 February 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

More Sayid. I've been saying it since, er, there stopped being so much Sayid.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 19 February 2007 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I think they said somewhere the season would end with a Ben flashback.

― nklshs (nklshs), Monday, 19 February 2007 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i think the losties and others may kind of join each other in some way, at least by the end of the show.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 19 February 2007 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still pissed that Sayid's "Keep two, kill the rest" thing didn't come off.

― onimo (nu_onimo), Monday, 19 February 2007 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

are they going to give fuckface Pickett the same kind of funeral they gave his wife? how will Juliet explain his death to Tom, Ben and co? it's hard to imagine any of them giving a shit about him really.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Monday, 19 February 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

NRQ OTM. Eyepatchy dude + smokey monster (also possibly + barefooted kind posse [may still be other Others!]) may turn out to be shared enemies. Or maybe Jack + Ben + Juliet + Tom get kicked out of Othersville for their shenanigens.

― nklshs (nklshs), Monday, 19 February 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

barefooted KID posse

― nklshs (nklshs), Monday, 19 February 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

More Sayid. I've been saying it since, er, there stopped being so much Sayid.

I would love a show with Sayid just taking out Others Rambo-stylee. He can get rid of Charlie as well.

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Monday, 19 February 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

There's lots of reasons to miss Sayid, not just for his badassery: 1. he's this show's Professor, I miss him building radios out of coconut leaves and Hurley's butt-sweat, 2. of all the man-candy on the island, he is the Great Romantic, 3. Sawyer saved all his best nicknames (Cpt. Falafel) and zingers for Sayid.

― nklshs (nklshs), Monday, 19 February 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i had forgotten that he and hurley built a radio and heard the past. harumph.

'the wire' has ridiculously elongated stories, but it does at least touch base with minor characters from time to time.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Monday, 19 February 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Sayid had the best man-on-man friendships too (Sayid + Hurley, Sayid + Charlie esp), besides Sawyer and Jack (what a shame having 6 episodes starring both almost exclusively and no Jawyer/Sack time!!).

― nklshs (nklshs), Monday, 19 February 2007 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Did anyone check out the Polar Bear Mural thing?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Monday, 19 February 2007 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

One painting, in a style reminiscent of the mural Desmond painted on the Swan's wall on the Island, has polar bears, an inverted Buddha, mountain peaks, and the word Namaste on it. It and the third painting are on the wall opposite of the bar. Many viewers initially thought that the Namaste was written backwards. In the actual filming and the majority of the scene, the painting appears to Desmond's left, with Namaste written correctly. In initial shots the film was reversed, causing the painting to appear on Desmond's right with Namaste written backwards. It is unknown if this was intentional or not.

― Captain Purple Items (nu_onimo), Monday, 19 February 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

In the orientation films they say "Thank you, namaste, and good luck" - namaste is a Hindi salutation.

― Captain Purple Items (nu_onimo), Monday, 19 February 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

There have been a lot of paintings of a similar style in LOST (Hatch wall mural, this one, Claire's babydaddy's paintings, etc) - I think this is because they were all painted by director Jack Bender.

― nklshs (nklshs), Monday, 19 February 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Jack Bender

big clue here

― resumo impetus (blueski), Monday, 19 February 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

hahahahaha

― nklshs (nklshs), Monday, 19 February 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah but IRL we know that this whole scenerio was written, shot, and aired with the intention of benry being a minor character.

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Monday, 19 February 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

my co-workers have just discovered 'heroes' and are saying it's better than 'lost'. this in itself, without me having even to watch 'heroes', had reminded me to be stauch.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Rolling moron co-worker thread

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, there's a little groundswell re: Heroes being the new Lost because it comes fast & furious w/ the twists AND puts out, instead of waiting for the right time to make w/ the revelations.

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

They are both teh awesome.

LOST has the brainz, Heroes brings teh ham. But I would take Lost over Heroes any day.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't even seen Heroes, I'm just being a goof.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

They are definitely of an ilk, and I think Heroes may be more instantaneously gratifying to watch. But I've yet to have Heroes dreams, whereas, in sleep, I can't excape teh JACK FACE.

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

no, i watched heroes all weekend, it's much more satisfying

characters don't hold back figuring out things, or walk past relevant clues to the shows mysteries without noticing them

same themes, time/fate, etc, much less frustrating

― this is cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

if all the characters in lost just sat down and had a long conversation about everything, they could figure it all out

this happens in heroes

― this is cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

But LOST viewers haven't figured it out, how could the characters?

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

certainly not the viewers fault

i watch heroes and i detect a new plot line, immediately i get all defensive like i'm watching lost and i'll never figure out what's going on for like another six episodes or a whole season--

but they don't stretch it out like that

― this is cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sick of people saying Heroes is better. What, do you want me to watch TV all the time?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

OH NO

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

jaymc otm. i ph34r heroes for that reason.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

kind of hesitant to stroll into the heroes threads and start posting though, this is my home

― this is cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

(heroes is better)

― this is cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I watch TV all the time. :(

I'm also a Grey's Anatomy addict which is incredibly sad.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

'heroes' won't be on normal tv in the uk for a while and i can't be arsed to torrent it; but might watch it now.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

there's nothing reprehensible about keeping up with your serialized dramas

― this is cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

What Cutty said.

Roz, from one (US?) GA fannie to another - was the 2nd part of that OMG MEREDITH FELL IN THE RIVER thing broadcast last week? I thought they rebroadcast Thursday's show on Friday (because ABC knows how to butter their bread), but instead I got a rerun of the 2-parter where the Friday Night Lights guy gets blowed the fuck up by a homemade bazooka shell.

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Desmond = Isaac - Charlie

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Daddy Chandra Suresh = Dr Marvin Candle x Christian Shephard

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

DL & Micah = Michael & Walt

― this is cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

cutty manages to keep up with 2nd tier UK comedy too -- give the man kudos.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

David, I'm not in the US but I'm guessing you mean what happened after she fell in the river, and whether Izzy kills the guy on the boat?

Yeah it was - at least, I dled it last Friday.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

was the 2nd part of that OMG MEREDITH FELL IN THE RIVER thing broadcast last week?

It was...on Thursday night. They usually rerun the newest ep on Fridays but not this past week for some reason. Oh okay I am busted as also a GA fan.

xpost

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I kind of hope they kill Nikki and then Linderman takes Micah so DL can be all "they took him...right out of my [phase shifting] hands!".

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Those sumbitches. (ABC, that is.)

Nick, if it makes you feel any better, GA employes a comic booky guy on their production / writing staff, just like Heroes & Lost.

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway LOST; I think the past two episodes, if not the structure of the season (the first 6 were really strong, but the 3 month gap was just too much), has really lost (lol) a lot of LOST's steam, but I think over the next few episodes - as they get back ~~to loser island~~ with Sayid and Locke who are obviously about to go on wicked awesome island exploration adventure - the satisfaction factor will leap.

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

consider walt--

we know he is "special"
we know he has some "power"
we know he was put into a "room"

when was the last time we heard anything about him?

― this is cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

It wasn't A room, it was THE room.
I'm thinking it was the BRANEWASH room, but I expect that's what they want us to think, and it was in fact some completely different room we still haven't seen.
Good old L O S T.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

consider brother mouzone in 'the wire' though!

it's the same thing (if you want it to be).

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

and iirc, no mention of Walt since S2 finale, to answer yr Q.
The others also got "more than they bargained for" when Walt joined them.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

naw, you knew mouzone was coming back, that's all you needed to know

― this is cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

how is the wire received in the uk? do you have subtitles?

― this is cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

The Wire... well, that's the one show that I have vowed not to start watching. Yet. For hard drive considerations.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I only watch L O S T.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Only 2 more episodes before a Sayid-centric ep. Can't freaking wait.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

how is the wire received in the uk? do you have subtitles?
-- this is cutty (holle...), February 20th, 2007.

no-one gets the one tv station that shows it (fx); i would say it only just 'broke' in the media with the dvd of s03 a week or two ago. every critic says it's the best thing ever etc but it's still practically art-house cinema, audience-wise.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Heroes is dealing with a similar number of characters and same-size scope right?

I've been avoiding it but will probably plough in soon (ditto Balactica - oh daers). also pending are The Wire, 24 from 4th season on and the entirety of Mahabharat.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

This week has seemed longer than the 3 month break.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I was in college with Dominic West, who is the lead in the Wire. Strange fact.

2. of all the man-candy on the island, he is the Great Romantic,

It's true. Not only did he make himself a little relationship with Shannon, he just has teh sadness suffusing everything he does. Him and Hurley both. I would watch a show where Sayid and Hurley fought crime together.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i am seeing mcnulty on stage on thursday.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

HEY FUCKERS STOP POSTING HEROES SPOILERS IN THE LOST THREAD SOME OF US ARE STILL DOWNLOADING IT

― Captain Purple Items (nu_onimo), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm not quite down with all this Sayid love. he hasn't done anything of real interest for a long time. i know this isn't really HIS fault but... i have no idea where his backstory is going either - this doesn't seem a good thing but maybe it'll be interesting.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

no one has posted any heroes spoilers, no worries.

xpost

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

SPOILER: Sayid is awesome.

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

his backstory, the fact it links with kate's dad and dharma geezer, is awesomes.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

someone did post a heroes article discussion lost with a major spoiler in it

― this is cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

discussing lost

― this is cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the point is that when Sayid is doing proper stuff and it's his turn to be the story, he is great and compelling because you want to know more about him as a character and because he has an air of mystery about him. Jack, on the other hand, who is in the frame almost all the time, is not interesting and I wouldn't care if I didn't know anything else about his life.

The people I am interested in: Libby (admittedly, dead), Juliet, Sayid, Hurley, Locke, Alex, Desmond and Benry.

People I like but don't need to know any more about back story from: Sun, Jin, Charlie.

People I don't care about either on the island or before it: everyone else.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

having said that, which characters still have a lot of intrigue/unsolved riddles re their backstories? NOT Jack because we don't give a shit about the tattoos - i mean what else is there to reveal about him now? ditto Kate and Sawyer.

as far as survivors go it's still Locke at #1 and the story of his crippledom which they're dragging their feet on (arf) forever, plus the general 'belief/i'm special' thing. Hurley/Libby thing right behind, then probably Claire! so they are the three future flashbacks i'm looking fwd to most (bar Others) now.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

he might have a tattoo of a polar bear.

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

i want Sayid to contract some strange disease which enables him to talk in his Lahndun accent for one episode (wanted this for Eko too). BRING BACK EKO AS OBI-WAN STYLE SPECTRE U TOOLS.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

his backstory, the fact it links with kate's dad and dharma geezer, is awesomes.

xxxxxp yeah, we just need MORE OF IT. less kate, less jack, who gives a shit? i still think eko stole sayid's thunder.

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

speaking of diseases, we're three months into season three and don't know shit about the sickness

i hate this show

― this is cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

haha... the more i think about it the more angry i get. so i just enter a zen trance of non-thinking when it comes on and it all seems so significant.

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm only interested in Claire's backstory if she turns out to be Christian Shepherd's illegitimate daughter.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

and now i'm L O S T!

― teh_kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

SPOILERISH:

Claire flashback really soon (3 weeks I think?). According to Emily de Ravin it flashes back to a much younger Claire.

There are still a lot of gaps in the pre-island backstories of a bunch of original 815ers that have been talked about but not touched upon:

Sayid - apparently his father was some kind of Iraqi war hero or something, also all that moving around looking for Nadia

Hurley - THE DECK COLLAPSE and WTF LIBBY obviously

Sawyer - "The Tampa Job", a (possible) daughter!

Also they need to do some more childhood flashbacks - we've seen Jack, Sun, and Sawyer as children (albeit briefly), surely a super distant past flashback could be awesome.

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I had meant to say wrt Claire - she may be the only cast member who could convincingly play herself as a teenager (tentative).

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

she better do it soon.

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

i wonder if i will ever actually get around to watching all the full-season dvd stuff that i want to watch. all the stuff i missed for whatever reason. veronica mars. the wire. the shield. heroes. too much. too much.

― scott seward (121212), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

if i told you all why i miss heroes every week you would all laugh at me and i would run away crying.

― scott seward (121212), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

you're a scout master aren't you

― resumo impetus (blueski), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

no, nothing that scary. i just really enjoy watching 2 & a half men and old christine. there, i said it. i feel better now. except old christine is off for a while and this new horrible show is on with scary david puddy(sp?) from seinfeld. but it wouldn't make much sense to watch a half hour of heroes. plus, i've already missed so much.

― scott seward (121212), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I had no idea Julia Louis-Dreyfus even had a new show until she was nominated for a Golden Globe.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

i preferred it when you were a scout-master dude

― resumo impetus (blueski), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I WANT to catch up on/watch Heroes, I really do. But I can't get over the fact that every woman on the show has either been (almost) raped or killed to motivate the male heroes. UH. :(

― METAL ROBOTIC HEAD FACE (scarymonster), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

FWIW Jessie there are a few new female characters, and the old female characters' storylines have gone a bit more respectable-like. Also no recent rape attempts or anything of the ilk.

new horrible show is on with scary david puddy(sp?) from seinfeld

It makes me so sad to see him (Patrick Warburton) on such a shitty show - he is one of the highest-profile cartoon voice actors out there right now, plus he has been really good in other things (the live action version of The Tick esp).

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Patrick Warburton is GOLD.

Dr. Invisiwho and his unlaming of Peter will probably push me back into Heroes when I have time to sit down and rewatch the three eps I saw + everything else.

― METAL ROBOTIC HEAD FACE (scarymonster), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Heroes! I'm on it!
We plow through entire seasons of TV shows in no time at all, 3-4 episodes a night. Stupid, because we binge and then comes the DROUGHT. As soon as they were available on dvd we went through last year's season of The Wire, Entourage, Deadwood, Extras, Nip/Tuck, all 5 seasons of Six Feet Under and both seasons of the excellent Dead Like Me—ALL BEFORE THANKSGIVING. God, the postpartum depression! The wondering what to do with our evenings! The displeasure at inferior offerings!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Forgot Rome. Just finished all of I, Claudius. How many jonesing Rome-addicts did that? ALL OF THEM.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, there's a little groundswell re: Heroes being the new Lost because it comes fast & furious w/ the twists AND puts out, instead of waiting for the right time to make w/ the revelations.

Yeah. I'm getting a little tired of all of the ponderous Jack/Kate/Sawyer action. If the Bai Ling ep is as bad as I suspect it will be, it might be the time I finally tune out.

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

would anyone mind if i changed all the lyrics to the song 'Turtle Power' so they were about Lost-related stuff instead?

― resumo impetus (blueski), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

it's worth noting that I read somewhere that Kring took his idea for Heroes to Lindelhoff who admits he got really envious of the concept "because it was so simple" or something.

anyway this was a really good episode, surprisingly. there are so many loose threads and dangling plotlines stretching back over a the past two seasons that the show has been really frustrating. this didn't address any of them really but it was a good break. I do think the show has probably one more season left in it though; or they should try to answer most of the questions that are outstanding and introduce something else.

― akm (akmonday), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Did this episode feel a lot like a Star Trek ep to anyone else? If they did more crazy one-off-ish eps like this, I could actually see this show going on much longer, albeit as a Very Good Show, as opposed to The Best Show On TV, which it honestly hasn't been since season 1.

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

season 1 LOST was like that star trek episode "shore leave" every week!

― akm (akmonday), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

xxpost

misread ...dangling plotlines....

dangling "panties"

cannot stop lolling.

― lxy (lxy), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

we need a thread where everyone can log out and post about grey's anatomy anonomously.

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

haha U 2 GRAYDY?

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

u_u

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Problem :
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NO SECERT GRAYS ENAMOTY FAN THRED BOO

― nklshs (nklshs), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

http://ilx.thehold.net/askaquestion.php?board=12

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

HI DERE PUSSMOS

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I am about 16 episodes behind and have not read this thread but has anyone ever come up with a drinking game for LOST?

I'm thinking one of the challenges would be three drinks for every time someone trips while chasing someone/something in the forest.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 20 February 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Dude there are so many drinking games for LOST, I've lost count (because i'm DRUKN).

- everytime Sawyer zings/gives a nickname/reads a book/looks at Kate with goo-ey eyes
- JACK FACE!
- someone trips in the forest
- TEH NUMBERS
- Flashback (if you can anticipate a flashback ie if someone's expression lingers on the camera, and there's that wooshing noise, shout "FLASHBACK!" and take two drinks)
- episode opens with someone's eye opening
- Hurley sez "Dude".

etc.

― Stuck in ILX Limbo (Roz), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 06:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Grey's Anatomy: genuinely don't care. Boring show, pretty people, it's no ER (which, as I've said before, I think I'm the only person still watching after all these years).

Heroes: I just can't get behind it. I try to like it, I really do, but the acting is so BAD and the woman thing annoys me, and I think maybe Lost is my one and only stupid-supernatural-things-happening show.

Lost: I think it's a mark of how this once great show has drifted that even here, on the Lost thread, we are talking about other shows. sigh.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 08:55 (seventeen years ago) link

but Lost is still good, i think, in spite of everything. at least we can take the piss out of it if nothing else. the talk of other shows has been pissing me off a bit even tho i played my part.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 10:30 (seventeen years ago) link

would anyone mind if i changed all the lyrics to the song 'Turtle Power' so they were about Lost-related stuff instead?
-- resumo impetus (n...), February 20th, 2007.

gwan

― temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 10:55 (seventeen years ago) link

To be fair, all Lost needs to do is focus on the group a bit more rather than what's happening on the periphery. Bit too early for accusations of shark jumping just yet, especially given how awesome the last episode was.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 11:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i love the way that lost fans are riled by the heroes chat. i count myself a fan BTW, and chances are i'd like heroes if i got round to watching it - the writers are all best mates or summink.

― BounceBounceBounceBounceBounceBounceBounce (bounce), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link

where are you now, you veronica mars losers :-D

― BounceBounceBounceBounceBounceBounceBounce (bounce), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link

i love the way that lost fans are riled by the heroes chat.

Because is Lost thread, innit?

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 12:28 (seventeen years ago) link

but the acting is so BAD and the woman thing annoys me

what woman thing?

― this is cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 12:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Heroes is better than Lost. I can fall asleep during Lost and still not miss anything. You can watch all of the Heroes episodes on the NBC website w/o having to download. I didn't watch it for awhile because everyone who told me it was amazing was an asshole.

― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 13:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I sometimes feel they could stick an episode of Amazing Stories on and I would think it was someone's flashback.

― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 13:15 (seventeen years ago) link

you can watch LOST on the ABC website.

― METAL ROBOTIC HEAD FACE (scarymonster), Wednesday, 21 February 2007 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

what woman thing?

The fact that the women are comic-book cliche women, like strippers or cheerleaders and they get to be sexually victimized. Although someone did point out upthread that it's getting better. I don't know, I gave up after episode 10, when they actually appeared to save the cheerleader, although maybe they didn't. I had lost all interest at that stage.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 22 February 2007 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Women be getting deaded a bit more than men, I think.

― ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 22 February 2007 00:47 (seventeen years ago) link

lousy flashback in tonight's episode. sawyer letting the kid go == dumbest thing he's done yet

― a.b. (abanana), Thursday, 22 February 2007 04:14 (seventeen years ago) link

it was aggravating.

hey island kid, you know lots of stuff, BEAT IT!

hi stewardess, GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE!

― scott seward (121212), Thursday, 22 February 2007 04:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Did I miss something? What secret was revealed about the island?

― en i see kay (EstrangedNative), Thursday, 22 February 2007 04:41 (seventeen years ago) link

The fact that the women are comic-book cliche women, like strippers or cheerleaders and they get to be sexually victimized.

This was my EXACT beef with Heroes and why I gave up after about three episodes.

― Handgun O. Mendocino (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 22 February 2007 04:53 (seventeen years ago) link

STOP TALKING ABOUT OTHER SHOWS

― giboyojimbo (gbx), Thursday, 22 February 2007 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link

that. was a pretty crap episode.

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Thursday, 22 February 2007 05:05 (seventeen years ago) link

yes. The swelling strings staring into the sky thing at the end was aggravating.

― Dan I. (w1nt3rmut3), Thursday, 22 February 2007 07:46 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhCP40PpW0k

― slugbuggy (slugbuggy), Thursday, 22 February 2007 07:54 (seventeen years ago) link

YOU PEOPLE HAVE NO HEART OR SOULS

― chaki (chaki), Thursday, 22 February 2007 07:57 (seventeen years ago) link

bai ling and jack w/ the kite and the swelling strings = all time worst moment on entire series

sawyer and kid on log w/ swelling strings = close second

only worthwile two minutes = we know tailies are alive and well

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Thursday, 22 February 2007 08:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Did I miss something? What secret was revealed about the island?

uh, none

only worthwile two minutes = we know tailies are alive and well

unless you count that as a revelation and "we are here to watch" as a satisfying explanation! guh?

(I guess they were supposed to witness Juliet's execution?)

― dmr (dmr), Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I hated this episode

although I liked when sawyer punched carl and told him to cowboy up (possibly Boston Red Sox reference #2435)

― dmr (dmr), Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

cowboy up was a term in use long before that steroid laden fat-ass millar made it their rallying cry.

― chicago kevin says it was nice knowing you all (chicago kevin), Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Bai Ling was trying to rip out Jack's internal organs using only her tongue.

― The Many Faces of Gordon Jump (Leon), Thursday, 22 February 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah I was half joking (but only half)

xpost

― dmr (dmr), Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i hated this episode, but i feel like seeing 20 tailies alive and well is a pretty big jaw-dropper. those two kids had a teddy-bear, too.

nicka's probably over on nu-ILX pointing out thirty other things that we missed.

― Rick Gibralter (grady), Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

My favorite post on thefuselage.com today (a forum I don't have to re-login onto every fourth post or whatever):
Did you notice that her "mark" looked VERY much like the blacklight hatch map that Locke saw??
I LOVE YOU, LOST FANDS.

nickalicious on Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:36 PM (1 minute ago)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I personally noted: remember when Jin & Eko saw "Others" walking through the jungle, barefoot and hauling a teddy bear? The tail-section children were wearing shoes, and the teddy bear was in decent shape (as opposed to jungle-Others' teddy bear, mangled and missing a leg). There are still more other Others.

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 22 February 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope that's not the last we see of Cindy, I like her.

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 22 February 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Also: fuck Bai Ling. I don't mean like "woohoo bonerz", I mean fuck her, I hate her.

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 22 February 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway, the title (Stranger In A Strange Land) implies that Jack is going to become some kind of spiritual revolutionery among the Others and inspire crazy Martian cult orgies, which I am 1,000% in support of.

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 22 February 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

correct

― Lingbert (Lingbert), Thursday, 22 February 2007 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

oh yeah, so, how useful is marking someone where they marked juliet? do all others functions require lifting up your shirttail before being allowed admittance?

― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Thursday, 22 February 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link

The Others' purpose on the island is to film a sequel to The Wedding Crashers.

― nklshs (nklshs), Thursday, 22 February 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

ha ha. you can imagine how that could really change a person.

― resumo impetus (blueski), Thursday, 22 February 2007 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

that was the gayest episode ever.

― Carey (Carey), Friday, 23 February 2007 03:16 (seventeen years ago) link

remember when they talked about how there would be a big shift in one character's attitude/outlook midway thru this series? i guess they mean Jack may start feeling more sympathetic to the Others now they're moving him to the village, probably all building up to some 'kill them or us' dilemma. tho he's resisted well so far.

had Jack actually met Alex before this episode?

― resumo impetus (blueski), Friday, 23 February 2007 09:59 (seventeen years ago) link

No, and in fact I don't think he's ever been around to hear Rousseau say her stolen baby's name was Alex, either.

Kate should know who exactly Alex is though, after her adventure with Claire and Rousseau @ the medical hatch.

― nklshs (nklshs), Friday, 23 February 2007 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...

I like when Karl pulled out the gun and Hurley was all "WOAH!".

― dong haft, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

i like dharma mermaids

― jergins, Thursday, 17 May 2007 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

we have to go back

― jergins, Sunday, 23 May 2010 05:14 (fourteen years ago) link

fuck i have to pick up my sister at the airport tomorrow night so i can not watch finale in real time WHAT AM I GOING TO DO!?!??!

― tehresa, Sunday, 23 May 2010 05:16 (fourteen years ago) link

HEY ESTELA DON'T READ AKA SPOILERS AND CONJECTURE

― JERGINS, Sunday, 23 May 2010 05:48 (fourteen years ago) link

no, not any spoilers, just spoilers if you haven't watched every episode through today

― jergins, Sunday, 23 May 2010 05:49 (fourteen years ago) link

srsly, no spoilers ppl, u aren't gonna fuck this up for me

― jergins, Sunday, 23 May 2010 05:49 (fourteen years ago) link

me and lx questions on the porch before the final night:

will jack's wife be juliet
will mr eko show?
walt? WAAAALT
will jin and sun be at the concert
is jack really the new jacob
nikki and paolo y/n
all the dead return
dudamel?
smoke monster off island
smoke monster dies
widmore dies in alt
desmond, what will he do
will we see locke trans~form~

― jergins, Sunday, 23 May 2010 05:51 (fourteen years ago) link

will white smoke fly out of claire
and beeeline 2 the island

― jergins, Sunday, 23 May 2010 05:52 (fourteen years ago) link

will frogurt be theater usher

― jergins, Sunday, 23 May 2010 05:53 (fourteen years ago) link

supernatural @ the concert??

― jergins, Sunday, 23 May 2010 05:53 (fourteen years ago) link

will i cry?

― lxy, Monday, 24 May 2010 03:54 (fourteen years ago) link

lol i did not even notice this thread before i started mine

― smoove operator, Monday, 24 May 2010 15:05 (fourteen years ago) link

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